we Test enough CPU becomes blue Screnns under 1.3Vcore
other CPU the same runs 1.288Vcore on Asus and 1.216 on ASrock Extrem Boards 4.5Ghz.
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we Test enough CPU becomes blue Screnns under 1.3Vcore
other CPU the same runs 1.288Vcore on Asus and 1.216 on ASrock Extrem Boards 4.5Ghz.
I have two Raid arrays running on the Intel controller fine. One Corsair GT SSD's and one OCZ agility both are RAID 0. I used the Intel drivers from the Sabretooth disk dont ask me why it was in the drive from my Sabretooth which I used while my original R4E got RMA'D. Have you guys tried the drivers on the original R4E disk???Quote:
Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS
I wonder why ASUS seems to need more Vcore ?? How are temps on both boards using the same Vcore and cooling??
Where are you measuring Vcc from on both boards? Match up at MLCC on the back of the socket. Also provide full BIOS setting/voltage configuration details (include all DRAM timing info, too) for both boards to all rails and include a parts list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace.
-Raja
There are supposed to be some issues with all current IRST drivers for some reason (this is not something new to IRST, there are always some bugs). Of course we have tried the drivers on the disc.Quote:
Originally Posted by pazza316
I heard there are some bugs with the current drivers. You may have a combination that does nto sit well with the OROM and IRST. Either way, update the firmware on those SSDs if you have not done so already and make sure you have "hot plug" enabled in UEFI on the ports those SSDs are connected to.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustusIV
-Raja
Raja I have hot plug disabled and all worked well just so you know.
Depends on the SSD controller used and the firmware (some need it some don't).Quote:
Originally Posted by pazza316
@Shamino and Raja
I have a question for you.
is the Formula PCB and layout identical to the Extreme? Can I use a water cooler from Koolance for the extremes on the Formula?
only cpu vrm on top same holes, SB not the same holes, you've got picture?
Thx Shamino...
Picture from the water cooler or the board?
Yeah no doubt @ Raja but I was just saying in my case it is not enabled.
Justus is using Mushkin 240GB SSDs looking at his parts list hence my advice to him. You are free to use whatever works in your case with the drives you are using. The hot plug saga has been going on since P67 and is a standard debug item that we walk customers through in case they experience issues just so you know why I suggested it.Quote:
Originally Posted by pazza316
-Raja
Yeah cool mate.
Raja,
:) I'm bored, what tests BIOS's are their for Sabortooth? :)
Ron
Not been passed anything to test on the Sabertooth, as soon as I have a beta build for public consumption I will post it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DualCpuUser
Ok so i have switched gears a bit and am not running raid mode anymore. I am using one drive in AHCI. 1 Stick of ram. Fresh 64 bit Win 7. Drivers update. and thats its. I leave for lunch come back and bsod The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x000000f4 (0x0000000000000003, 0xfffffa80052fa4e0, 0xfffffa80052fa7c0, 0xfffff80002de18b0). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 121411-8080-01. Thoughts? Did it have something to do with hibernation? Machine appears stable otherwise and passes all diagnostic checks.
Are you using IRST drivers or MS AHCI n(use MS AHCI only for single drive)? What firmware version are you using on the SSD now?Quote:
Originally Posted by JustusIV
-Raja
Pretty sure its the MS drivers as i didnt supply the IRST. My OS is running on a single corsair Force 115GB drive in the SATA II port. I have actually not update the firmware on that. But i will when i get back to the machine. I turned off hibernation and it hasnt BSOD since.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS
Okay, definitely update FW if they have a newer build.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustusIV
Firmware was current on the Corsair Force CSSD-F115GB2.
Any other thoughts on the BSOD? I am pretty sure it was the hibernation that caused it. I can live without it but knowing its there bugs me.
Is the system at stock or overclocked? No idea off the top of my head, you will need to check systematically as to the cause. Go through BIOS settings (specifically loosen up DRAM timings), remove USB devices and eliminate the SSD from the list of candidates.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustusIV
-Raja
Was recommeneded here from Overclock.net, since ASUS reps post here :).
Anyway, I have quite a problem on my hands. I'm recently in a build with x79 and SLI to game on 3 monitors and I just can't seem to solve this problem. The problem I am having is that at random intervals, the graphics will just crash. I can be running 3dmark 11 or even just swapping windows on the desktop, but it still happens. Here's my build:
Coolermaster HAF X
ASUS RIVE Motherboard
Intel Core i7 3930k
G.SKILL 32GB DDR3 1600
EVGA GTX 580 3GB x 2
Corsair AX1200 PSU
Crucial M4 120GB SSD
WD Black 2TB
Corsair H100
I've tried numerous things including:
- Different PSU
- Each card individually, and the cards in other comps (they work fine there)
- Update BIOS to 903
- Adjust voltages that seemed high for stock (VCC and RAM)
- Boot on SSD and HDD
I've tried countless other ways too, but just so many to list. I've been able to run Prime95 and a Memtest fine. There was also a time where I was able to run 3dmark11 multiple times with no trouble. Here's a link to Overclock.net where I had my first thread:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1184157/gtx-580s-and-x79
That's just to help in case you want to see what else I've done. I've even gone as far to check temps of the ram with a laser thermometer. Everything seems fine temp and voltage wise. Is this a common issue with x79 and SLI? Is it because I'm using 3gb cards that I'm getting this? What do you guys recommend? I've done all I can think of and I'm really getting frustrated with this build, especially with how much I spent on this.
your cards are unstable in SLI.
Test by doing and/or:
downclock gpu core and gpu memory by 5% both
increase gpu core voltage with nvidia inspector.
single card stability vs sli stability there is a discreprancy
Hey Raja, I followed the directions on the Asus ROG site on creating a Ram Cache, and I purchased SuperCache 5. I am running 32GB of Corsair 1600 Dominator quad channel, using a Corsair Force GT 120gb Sata6. I created a 10GB cache size, and had a BSOD after a few hours of BF3. This system was rock solid before, this was the first BSOD. Do you think the cache size should be around 8GB? I am worried that SuperCache is now going to make my system unstable.
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by sprayingmango
Care to share full system config and settings? The size of the cache should not be a problem per se.
-Raja
I've actually tried both cards individually in this build and got same results, but I'll try that and report back.Quote:
Originally Posted by LardArse
Lowering clock speeds didn't work, but I did increase the voltage slightly and it hasn't crashed yet.
Edit: Doesn't work either.
hi,
i don't know if this is the place, feel free to move if i'm wrong.
the situation is this, my first gpu card heats alot. and the asus smart doctor app i think isn't configured right.
what are the recommendations of the fan configuration on the card ? (asus 6790dcii) 10x
on some games the card went up to 95c and fan didn't accelerate. so i had manually put 100% above 75C.
Raja@Asus or anyone ...very please.... can you tell me what for is the 4pin power connector above 1st. PCI-E 16x slot on the left side ?
http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/...herboard-5.jpg
Do i need to plug that in or is it just for an extreme OC or QUAD SLI ?
I appreciate any help... thank you
Quote:
Originally Posted by Papagaj
Only for Extreme OC or quad SLI. You don't need to use it for most overclocking.
wow 8 minutes :D :D that was fast! Thank you very much.
BTW the guy who designed the Formula X79 layout should get a Nobel prize.
A little help guys, im having problems going to 4.7 or 4.8ghz, i am 100% stable with 4.6ghz at 1.325v with 46x multi, 4.8 @ 1.43v which is 1v over 1.32 just for 200 mhz, which doesnt ake sense. Seems ok in some games, then out of no where i get a bsod, now prime will run stable for an hour as well, this is with 1.43v. Vcssa is at 1.1v vtt is at 1.15v, i used this guide as well with no luck. system specs are below, using the latest 0802 bios. I have a feeling this might have something to do with my memory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx2z07sFM2I
HelixPC,
With 32Gb of ram, I'd increase your vtt to 1.2-1.25, and vccsa to the same. See if that helps.
no go, maybe my cpu just wont do anything above 4.6, thank you for the suggestion tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by mdzcpa
Is that the newer Vegeance with XMP profiles for the X79?
I think its memory as well. Have you tried any of the presets in the BIOS? Rampage Tweak "Mode 1" seems to help quite a bit for those with Gskill, Might be worth a shot.
I've seen several posts lately that say up to 4.5GHz with little extra voltage, but then they need bigger bumps in voltage to go 4.6-5+GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by HelixPC
I've seen several posts lately that say up to 4.5GHz with little extra voltage, but then they need bigger bumps in voltage to go 4.6-5+GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by HelixPC
Hello,
Just installed my RIVF mb and aisuite II V10211 from asus RIVF download page. Now i have this little "problem"
http://koti.mbnet.fi/~mobsters/Problem/Thermal.jpg
Is this intended or how i can fix it, or can i fix it. The AIsuite is also missing some items that should be there and some other have older version number. Little disappointed at this point :down:
If the memory is unstable it would likely manifest at 4.6GHz, too. You have not stipulated the nature of the instability - BSODs, system resets or failures in stress tests?Quote:
Originally Posted by HelixPC
Thermal radar is for the Sabertooth only so ignore it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobsters
any answers regarding asus smartdoctor ?
and about the asus saberthooth bios ... any option to change opt fan low limit ? my noctua fan is 300 rpm and because of that always bios alerts me on that.
No option for this right now so set Fan speed low limit to ignore or set F1 halt to ignore.Quote:
Originally Posted by gillll
yup that's what i did, i hope this will be available on next bios releases.
Raja, any idea on my problem? I believe I have a memory issue as I was able to run it fine using one stick (still need to do more testing on that), but I would like to know what you think it might be.
What memory do you have and what settings? I can see Gskill 32GB DDR3-1600, is this a 32GB kit or two 16GB kits combined?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayyde
If one module works fine then you will likely need to increase VCCSA and/or relax some of the sub-timings. Set VCCSA to around 1.10~1.20V, and try using the Hynix profile. If that does not help, try the Max MHz profile and then tighten down timings slowly.
-Raja
I run 32GB of Vengeance and found it can bring instability at higher CPU clocks. Like Raja said, I had to loosen some secondaries and increase VTT and VCCSA. You can also try removing 16GB and test for stability and if that is stable you know it is mem related.
I'm using a 32gb kit. Here's the one:Quote:
Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231498
VCCSA was set around 1.2 by using auto settings. I recall trying 16gb and it was ok. Didn't really get a chance to test it though. I take it Hynix profile is a setting in the BIOS? Along with Max MHz profile? By tightening you mean increasing timing from say default at 9 to say 10/11? I also recall seeing the memory run at around 1.65 volts at default, even though the sticks say 1.5. Should that be a problem? I'm kinda new at overclocking. :)
I'm at work and don't have access to it at the moment. If you could, give a quick step by step on what to adjust so when I do get home, I don't have to spend much time looking around for it, since I won't have much time tonight. Christmas shopping and all. :)
Thanks Raja!
In the memory timing section of UEFI, select the Hynix profile. The Max MHz profile is very loose and will reduce system performance a little so that's why I said tighten the timings slowly after checking impact on system stability. Set DRAM voltage manually to 1.50V if operating at a speed of DDR3-1600.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayyde
If you have the same kit I have, Vengeance uses Micron 43nm and doesnt really scale with voltage. You can actually get instability from more than 1.60v so I would use that much or less.
I run mine at 1.5v:
http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/im...VE/OC/Loc2.png
As you can see secondaries are quite loose. Since then I tightened up the tertiary timings but not by too much. 32GB puts a lot of stress on the IMC so it is a little more difficult to find that sweet spot.
Yeah, BIOS was defaulting to 1.65v even though it was at DDR3-1600.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS
Just to clarify, tightening the timings means to increasing the settings? Example Cas latency and other ones? I did find this while searching G.Skill's site:
https://docs.google.com/document/pub...0OU5VPe6CUoFso
Thanks!
I'll give it a try, thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldonko
you tried just simply loading xmp profile and running as is?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayyde
You will find most of the info you seek here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...01#post5019101
Ask your questions below that guide after reading it through thoroughly.
-Raja
Testing that as I type this. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by LardArse
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS
EDIT: So far so good. Ran a full test of 3dmark11 and actually got better marks by just setting to XMP mode. Also tested Unigine Heaven and AIDA64 stress test at the same time with no problems. Gonna try 3dmark11 again and then test it again later today on a cold boot.
Thanks Raja@ASUS, for pointing out... Rampage IV Extreme UEFI Guide for Overclocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS
I'm now, LinX stable @ 4.8gig oc. With 32gig MushKin BlackLine Memory @ 2133 frequency... :toast:
Addendum... I got so engrossed in the guide. I didn't notice who the author was.
Until now, so again thanks Raja@ASUS for one great guide...It was a boon to me...:up:
Still don't have the stock 2011 kit from Watercool for my Heatkiller, and I've been using some bolts I picked up at the hardware store. First mount I did not like, as I think I did not have enough Nactua NT-H1 paste on it. Unfortunately, I used the last of it mounting the waterblock. I don't think the temps were that great, as I was getting low to mid 30's C stock idle temps.
I bought some new M4 x 35mm socket cap screws, unmounted the block and checked the spread on the Noctua paste. Did not look like I had enough on it, as there was about 1/4" to 3/8" on each edge of the IHS that did not get paste. Cleaned up the CPU, applied a more liberal amount of some Artic Cooling MX-4 compound I picked up at MicroCenter yesterday, then bolted the waterblock down with the new screws. I also decided to add a spare 120mm fan to blow air across the block, ram and VRM heatsinks. Temps dropped as much as 10C, so I fired up Asus AutoTune:
http://img.techpowerup.org/111219/autotune.jpg
Not too bad for a quick shot at it. Idle temps are now in the mid to uppper 30's C. I probabl;y won't keep it this way, but just wanted to play a little.
After a light IBT run, I noticed cores 0 & 1 were up to 72C & 73C, while core 5 was only 59C. Do you think my mounting pressure is uneven, and if so, which corner do I need to tighten?
Waiting for new RAMs and a Mountain Mods case.
Tubes not so easy to be set in X79 layout.
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6075/dsc4590h.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9565/dsc4591z.jpg
Is there a new 0903 BIOS? I read on the HardOCP review that they were using it and had great success.
New BIOSes are being qualified. No major changes for you guys on these builds.Quote:
Originally Posted by sprayingmango
New UEFI build 1004 for R4 series boards http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/c8b0f237ac_8.09MB
Changelog is update microcode and PCIE Gen 3.0 codes.
-Raja
Hey folks, I have a P9X79 WS and it's working great except the CPU speed is stuck on full after overclocking.
It's running a 3960X @ 4.3 GHz (34x126.4) but it stays at 4.3 GHz at all times even with basically 0% CPU utilization. Enhanced SpeedStep is enabled in the BIOS but doesn't appear to be working.
Any hints?
BIOS is WS 0701.
Check first what power setting you are using in Windows; if you chose High perf. I can't recal what default is, but go in there, edit it, get to the processor min speed and make sure it isn't 100%, meaning it never drops its Px-states to lower speed/lower VID.
In the BIOS if you turned off Speed-step and the Cx states; that too will alter it.
That did it; thanks Dual. I forgot I had set High Performance during burn-in testing.
Yep...check Windows under Power Options. Needs to be at Balanced or Power Saver. Performance disables speedstep.
It doesn't disable it; just don't allow the processor to use it, but the effect is the same.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdzcpa
LOL...say what? No matter what you call it the speedstep "feature" is certainly disabled at the OS level ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by DualCpuUser
You guys crack me up sometimes :)
Help! What size screws fit the x79 socket!
It seems like they are M8 machine screws (in width) but the threads per inch of the m8 screws I have are not tight enough to fit. (and a second question is where can I buy these screws, local stores?)
Anything new on the Sabertooth BIOS front?
Still having issues with resuming from S3 on the 0802 BIOS. Can be quite annoying at times.
These are M4 threads.Quote:
Originally Posted by trn
You can get them at the local hardware store. Length will be your issues.
Our you can try these:
http://www.koolance.com/water-coolin...roduct_id=1221
They work great for me.
Anyone here has an X79 Sabertooth and 8 x Corsair DDR3-1600C10 RAM combo?
I have it but I find that the BIOS sometimes report 60GB instead of 64GB. Someone told me increasing the VCCSA and VTT voltage can help. I did that and the frequency of RAM missing is reduced but still haven't gone away.
I find an Asus web page that seems to mention 64GB may require higher voltage:
http://rog.asus.com/46212011/guides/...rclocking-2/3/
Does anyone here have the same issue as mine? Can you fix it?? Thanks!
Quote:
Originally Posted by umvue
What DRAM timings are you running? List them here, or take a screenshot with F12 of the DRAM timing pages. Also state what VCCSA and VTT voltage you are using.
-Raja
UEFI 0906 for the Sabertooth/Standard/Deluxe/Pro X79:
Fix list:
1. Enhance PCIe 3.0 Support Capability.
2. Enhance DRAM Compatibility.
3. Enhance CPU OC capability.
4. Enable VT-d support for VT-d enabled processor.
5. Speed up S3 resume time
Downlaod links:
P9X79
P9X79 Deluxe
P9X79 Pro
Sabertooth X79
-Raja
Thanks, 0906 is much better!
Excellent! Thanks, Raja!
Attached are the two BIOS screen capture files. Two places I modified: 1) I increased VCCSA, DRAM-AB, DRAM-CD current capability from 100% to 130%; 1) I increased VCCSA voltage and VTT voltage to 1.15VQuote:
Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS
Looks like I am getting ioErrors when I tried to attach any files to the post.:(
I think I will give this a try. Do you have any chance to know if it is now compatible withQuote:
Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS
Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10 DDR3 1600MHz 8G Ram
???
Just load the XMP and set VCCSA to 1.20V. I have tested those modules and they work fine. If however your memory controller is weak then I can pass you some settings that will help you.Quote:
Originally Posted by umvue
-Raja
In which area? Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldonko
Oh well, I tried to upgrade BIOS using EZ Flash inside the BIOS but my machine is dead now. I renamed the ROM to SABERX79.ROM per the manual's instruction and press the BIOS button next to the USB for 3sec but nothing happens. I think I am sending my machine to the local distributor....:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS
I assume they will upgrade the BIOS for me while fixing it, right???
x79 sabertooth manual section 3.10.4 mentioned a BIOS updater I can download from asus.com to upgrade BIOS. I couldn't find it at asus site. Can Raja help?? Thanks!
oh never mind. I finally figured out how to flash bios using the bios flash button.:D
Select XMP, then find these secondary/third timings and set them as shown in this post. Also, keep VCCSA at 1.15V to start with.Quote:
Originally Posted by umvue
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5021980
AI Probe is saying my VCCSA is at 1.22 in Windows but I know I set it to 1.15 in Bios. What is going on??
Hi everone I am have a problem with the my overclocking. I am running the cpu at 4700mhz and can game for hours, but when there is alot of cpu, ram and hardisk activete the it becomes unstablie and crashes too blue screen.
My setting for bios
Cpu 3930k batch#3134B388 at 4700mhz
mobo ASUS Sabertooth bios 906
PSU model: Silverstone SST-ST1000-G
CPU Frequency:4700
Memory frequency:1600
Vcore:1,425
VCCSA:auto
VTT:1,300
VDIMM:1,510
CPU PLL Voltage:1,8250
Memory Timings 9-9-9-24-T1 Corsair Vengeance 16Gb kit
Harddrev Corsair Force Series GT 120GB firmwire 1,32
Hi Raja, I have another problem, today I benched my 2 x Crucial M4 64GB RAID0 with Crystal Disk Mark. It says my drive is only 300MB/s for read. But other people told me one single M4 should bench 500MB/s and in RAID0, they should bench 800MB/s
I am using the Disk Xpert utility to choose Superspeed to create my RAID0. I haven't installed any storage related drivers yet.
LLC is applying more volt, to compensate for v-droop.
Hi Raja, someone told me I am slow because I inserted my drives to the Marvell ports. He said I should insert them to the Intel ports. Is this true?
I suppose if I re-insert into Intel ports, I will need to re-install everything???
''Quote:
Originally Posted by Darknezz
VTT seems way to high for running memory at 1600. I'd set that to 1.15v
Try also Rampage tweak Mode 1 (for compatibility).
Are you running Speedstep??
Use the Intel ports.Quote:
Originally Posted by umvue
I don't know if this has been asked before but, is it possible to lower the %limit in chassis fan? Right now its range is 40-100%. Also does the pwm control work in chassis fan connector? i try to control pwm pump and it doesnt lower rpm, cpu connector works with pump.
#mdzcpa
Ok I will try VTT at 1.15
Rampage tweak Mode 1Haven't try it. Can i use that on a Sabertooth mobo.. link?
Speedstepping is on..
I found out that my bios would set my ram at 9-9-9-24-T1 but they are T2 so i have set them to t2..
I was thing of get som new memory for if what should i buy? 16gb
What fan (make and model) and which UEFI version?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobsters
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darknezz
If the system is stable at less than 4.7GHz with the same settings then I would be looking at VCore rather than memory. Have you tried 4.5~4.6GHz and checked if you are stable with the same settings?
Not a fan, water pump. swiftech-mcp35x-pump and i flashed latest bios 1005.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS
Depends what the current draw of that pump is (I have not checked). Use the CPU headers for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobsters
Heh, almost knew that answer but the problem is that i have 2 of these beasts and 1 is connected to CPU fan and other is connected to CHA 1 fan. They both work from CPU header, but i need to control them individually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS
These things take power from 4-pin molex and control from pwm. This could be a problem as its just 2 wires, Fan PWM and Fan IN. it does not draw any current from Fan header.
12 Volts DC convenience: plugs into the computer power supply
Variable speed control via PWM thru the motherboard, from 1300 rpm for completely silent operation, to 4500 rpm for ultra high flow performance;
The patch may not be "software" at all, and with this extremely non-standard configuration, well you know the rest...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobsters
Yeah, it works as it works but i would like to see, at least in future this feature that you can control multiple water pumps individually from mb connectors via pwm. I know this is really small % of users but still :D
Thank you for your help and your time. Now i just need to get the memory to work little faster than 1666mhz :cool:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS
Raja and mdzcpa thanks I think got it stabile now. I gave it a little more Vcore thanks help..