it's not bad, but you have to tweak it more, try to read previous pages and several threads of i7 overclocking if you have time.
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it's not bad, but you have to tweak it more, try to read previous pages and several threads of i7 overclocking if you have time.
Can somebody confirm that 12GB of RAM does work on this board, at 1600Mhz or over? Because I'm planning to get another 6GB soon and I would be very disappointed if 12GB at 1600Mhz will not work/not stable.
The memory controller is in the CPU. Most of the time issues w/ 12GB of ram has been CPU dependent. I'll be throwing in another 6GB today again (as the F@H bigadv is a ram pig). Hopefully it won't limit my OC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender17
Thanks, I am using the XSPC rx360, mcp655, apogee XT, and the ek multioption res150. The chip is 1.28125vid and runs fairly cool. I use a small window unit AC behind the PC blowing at the rad for LinX and Blend runs.Quote:
Originally Posted by R3alsp33dy0ne
Well I am up to 12GB now. Didn't have to decrease the bclk either. Sitting nicely @ 229.Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
Noctua NHD14 in the house, this thingy is HUGE.
Installed horizontally (blowing towards the back of the case) with 2 push-fans and fitted fine :).
Just installed, and didn't have a chance to look at temp load-temp yet, but idle-temp seams to be a couple of degree lower :). Just fist impression, tho.
If you install the NB-cooler, then forget using 12GB tall RAM at all. You may use 6GB tall RAM by removing the first push-fan, tho. I'm glad for having low-profile RAM, my Corsair XMS3 sneaks just under the cooler and I can use 12GB, but don't need it yet, anyways.
So far so good :)
First of all let me say thanks for all the passive help I have recieved from trolling these forums the last 2 months, it has been pivotal in my success so far.
Anyway I am building a system that I need to run stable and fast,
it consists of one of these motherboards 6GB of Corsair Dominator
ram (CMG6GX3M3A2000C8) and a megahelam with push pull fans.
and a i7-975 (for stability)
As you can see below my temps get up to 96C when running LinX.
https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/barrowsr...HramHbclkL.png
This seems awfully high compared to others similar overclocks on the 920.
I have some ideas on what may be some options but I was curious if anyone had any suggestions I havent thought of.
Here are my ideas...
1. You will notice the corsair ram fan slightly blocks the intake fan of
the HS, I am hoping that when my two low profile scyths arrive this
problem will be subdued.
https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/barrowsr/Pics/DSCN0539.JPG
2. I was considering mounting the HS horizontally but was unsure if this
had been decided as a bad idea by others, I thought I read previously
that this had helped decrease temps in one persons case but not another.
3. This ram has excessively high stock voltages (Ram 1.65, QPI 1.55), so I
think I may have to opt for some lower voltage ram because I am under
the impression that one of those voltages is located on the CPU die and
therefore adding to the high temps I am seeing.
Hopefully someone will have some insight into what I am doing wrong, I
thought 4.2 would be easy but at these voltage settings it just isn't stable.
Maybe if I can get this up and running well my next step will be water or
subzero.
FYI I am only using that Gigabyte tool to display voltages not change any settings.
Thanks in advance if anyone can help.
-Luther
https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/barrowsr/Pics/DSCN0537.JPG
Thanks for checking that. I have a GA-X58A-UD7, i7 960, and 12GB of RAM arriving Friday to replace my aging Crosshair and Phenom 9950. Glad to hear it should work fine with that amount of RAM.Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
luther138, If your case vents from the top, mounting the cooler horizontally should be fine as long as it isn't in the way of your memory slots. I used the True that way on my p45 rig with good results. I have the same ram as you but run it using the 2:8 divider, it helps lower QPI/VTT, and you can just use tighter timings, those Dominators should do 1800+ cas7. I am not crazy about that Corsair fan for the memory, I took it off and have a fan sitting on the gfx card blowing on the ram.
Thank I will give that a try. Out of curiosity what are your ram/QPI voltages. And I am assuming your using water cooling with these temps...Quote:
Originally Posted by OC Nub
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7239/4500.png
which one? I probably wont be going water any time soon, unless someone makes a cheap
closed loop one.
Thanks again.
-Luther
For 4500mhz I was using 1.40vtt, mem was 1.640v, but normally run at 4ghz 1.220vtt. Haven't had this board but a few days or so, will work on lowering voltages.
so if I keep the same CPU and RAM, shouldn't have a problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
I'll make time, your advice is appreciated mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by nyeah
Not exactly. No CPU's are created equal :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender17
Hey all, I hope someone in here can help me out. I simply don't know what to do...I can only max out my i7 920 D0 @ 3.8Ghz. I cannot go any further without hard locking the computer during stress testing. I have tried upping the CPU to 1.35v, ram to 1.7v, qpi/vtt to 1.66v, and can't get this computer stable. Temps aren't the issue. I have attached a pic of my current system that is 100% stable...anything above that crashes....
HT is enabled, turbo disabled, that gigabyte tweaking thing is set to standard, RAM is set to manufacturer specs. If it matters I can boot at 4.0ghz just cant get anywhere with it...:shrug::mad::confused::shakes:
Anything PLZ!
http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/w..._Nooby/CPU.jpg
^^ try to increase QPI/VTT to 1.52-1.54 volts, pll=1.4V
your Nb frequency i 4000MHz, it's not easy to get it stable.
@ OC_Nooby
Those kind of VVT is really too much for 24/7 use.
Intel means you have to keep it under 1.35v for 24/7, but some people are using it without issue, yet. The heat-overhead is a real and even bigger issue.
Use x8 RAM with x16 Uncore with thigh timings, you will get the same performance with less heat and more stability. Those 2000MHZ CL9 is not better than than 1600MHZ CL6/7 for 24/7 use.
@OC_Nooby
try to loose the ram settings first and push the proc, after you got the desired clock you can then play with ram
I'm really liking this board, currently working on 4.4ghz 21x210 having got 4.2Ghz stable:-
Click pics for more benches and bios settings.
1) 4.2Ghz 21x200 Ram x8 1600Mhz 7-7-7-19
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie...s/21x200@8.png
I got my ram running at it's stock speed 2,000mhz but it needed an extra 0.3vtt from 1.28v to 1.58v to be stable:
2) 4.2Ghz 21x200 Ram x10 2,000 9-9-9-27
http://www.images.clunk.org.uk/revie.../21x200@10.png
My bad, 1.6v for 4000mhz NB to be stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacek
I read somewhere where vtt can be no more or no less then 0.5v from what the ram voltage is. In any case this was just an experiment to see if I can get to my ram timings/frequency. I can do 1600mhz with 7-7-7-20 timings and probably lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
I have tried going as low as 1200mhz with 9-9-9-27 timings and 1.66v on ram.Quote:
Originally Posted by nyeah
Its a hard brick wall after 3.8ghz....Was thinking. I have a 700 watts OCZ GamerXtreme power supply and maybe its a power issue? I have 7 antec fans,3 hdds, dvd drive, 5870, and the i7. Perhaps its a power issue? Im going to find out the power usage of all my devices and see if that may be the issue. Cause if it is the next 5870 thats on it way may not like it new home...Thanks for the help! KEEP IT COMING :)
OK, I don't think its a power issue.
Another quick question for you guys using this board. How much of a difference does the big NB air cooler make to NB temps? Just wondering as I may well want to use one of the PCI-E 1x slots for a sound card but with the additional cooling connected it wont fit.
I take it if I put the soundcard in the bottom 8x slot it will make one of the 16x slots drop down to 8x which will effect my crossfire performance?
First attempt with x21 multi and new cooler looks promising :) . Just a little LinX to check the it out, going to optimize more before finalizing.
Noctua NHD14 gave the "little extra" cooling one really needs at these speeds.
Using 38mm Scythe Ultra Kaze (3000RPM) as the first fan + the original NF-P14 in the middle, in a push/pull/push configuration. Both connected to fan-header using a Y-split.
W3520 @4.51GHZ(21x215) 1.34v , 10 run LinX :)
http://img.techpowerup.org/100106/Ca...8-20100106.jpg
Lowered my bclk to 191 and multi to 21. Running at 4Ghz, 5 runs passed in Linx. I think its my qpi link speed thats messing with my overclock. Is there any smaller multiplier then 36x, cause thats all I got unless i'm missing something....
Going to try blck 200 and 20 muli and see where that brings me..
36x is as low as it goes (there is a "slow mode" but don't even bother trying that, it's useless). But QPI speed shouldnt become an issue until you get to about 220 BCLCK.Quote:
Originally Posted by OC_Nooby
If no one else lets you know about this, I'll post in a day or two. Got my board arriving tomorrow and wasn't planning on using the big Northbridge cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMK
I havn't tried without it, but on mine it gets pretty warm. I think the NB would get very hot without it.
Looking forward to it. I have the same sound card problem that uses PCIEx1 and do not want to have to lose that slot because of the cooler. Can you let us know too how hot the NB cooler gets without the pipe?Quote:
Originally Posted by KorbenD
Hi, where can find the latest bios download path??
thank you very much
Sure thing. I've got the same issue with a SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium that I want to use in a PCIe 1x slot.Quote:
Originally Posted by jwteacher
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...ProductID=3251Quote:
Originally Posted by erickwok
Thank you very much!Quote:
Originally Posted by KorbenD
i've replaced stock waterblock with enzotech CNB-S1 and the temp stays @ 52c ambient 26c open case.
i don't use the silent pipe
not to get off topic but, GA-X58A-UD5 was just launched GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD5 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Well something is stopping me flat on my face. I can do 191bclk and 21 multi but can't do 200bclk and 20 multi (they both get you 4ghz). I can run 200 bclk and 19 multi all day long. Ram set to 1600mhz qpi @ 36x...Im pretty sure I have a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty 920 d0...Quote:
Originally Posted by R3alsp33dy0ne
Currently im running @ 3.8ghz 200bclk 21 multi, 1600mhz @ 6-7-7-19, 1.3v cpu, 1.36vtt/qpi, 1.66v mem. I've done all possible ram settings, voltage adjustments etc etc. Ohh well...i'll wait for a new bios, maybe my luck might change. :shrug:
Thanks to the people who helped!
Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
My friend has a X58-UD5 w/c has a supported memory of 1600Mhz but only 1 module per channel, since the memory controller is on the CPU it self why does the X58-UD5 limit the support and the X58A-UD7 support it at 1600Mhz with all DIMM slots used??
Thanks mate... lookin forward to the results :)Quote:
Originally Posted by KorbenD
@ Sam_oslo
You're seriously getting those temps on air with a 2.67 Ghz Proc
Is it the Xeon chip you have that runs so cool or is it the Noctua or both?
If I purchased a Noctua could I expect temps/speeds like this on my i7-975
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As per advice from OC Nub I lowered my clock rate on my ram and bumped up its timings
allowing me to significantly decrease my DRAM Voltage and QPI Voltage. Also I mounted my Megehelam horizontally instead of vertically. Doing all of these things dropped my temps by about 10C. My application is CPU bottlenecked so clocking down the ram was an easy choice.
Thanks for the help everyone, although depending on Sam_oslo's response I may have to invest in a Noctua. Too bad I already bought 4 (yes I am building 4 identical machines) pre-lapped (warranty voided) Megahelams.
Heres the latest results
https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/barrowsr...ightCPU4_2.png
Also does anyone know of a good loading program for linux (fedora) I can't get my temps within 10C of linX windows7. What gives?
-Luther
This Board + 6GM Corsair Dominator 2000Mhz @1800Mhz + Megahelem + i7-975
SNAP! Looks nice. Thanks for the heads up!Quote:
Originally Posted by pyn
right, I know thatQuote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
I'm saying keep the exact same CPU, not another chip of the same model number
I don't know :shrug: I never paid attention to this when I had the EX58-UD5Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
It should.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender17
Yep, really. Isn't it great?Quote:
Originally Posted by luther138
This particular batch# is cooler than average W3520 (as far as I have seen) and I believe this the main reason for good temp :). But I believe the Noctua is helping too.
EDIT: (Some i7-batches run cooler with the same Vcore/clock. I have heard others with several w3520 saying this batch# runs about 10'C cooler clock-4-clock.)
I just got this cooler for 2 days ago and can't say much firm about it, yet. But it seams to be running ~5'C cooler at load compared to my good old Prolimatech Megahalems with 2x1600RPM fans.
But I'm using a really strong 38mm 3000RPM fan + NH-14 now and this may play a role too.
This cooler is rally good, and is probably the best within air-cooling right now :) But I belive the batch# is the main reason for this results.
Thanks! I went and read some comparisons for that cooler and they agree with your statement of running about 5 degrees cooler, well I have 3 more 975's coming perhaps one will run really cool but unfortunately they will all have to be clocked the same.
I am beginning to feel like there may be better options for chips, I really just wanted fast cool and stable, I thought this would cover it but I guess if I want more I would have to go WC.
Its funny how you learn things the hard way sometimes this Motherboard kind of turned out to be an overkill for what I was trying to do. Oh well I least I still have all the power and flexibility it offers.
Thanks Again.
-Luther
NP, Yeah, ~5'C cooler sounds cool, for now :)
The MB is very important component and I believe it will never be overkill. It is a good idea to invest on a good one, specially for you, it costs almost nothing compared to those "cheap" 975 you got.
Why didn't you get i7 920? or even better, wait for upcoming i7 930 which is right around the corner and 4 of them would cost almost as much as one 975, and would OC as good (for 24/7 use on air).
Those "cheap" 975 shows their strength on subzero cooling, but they OC almost the same as i7 920 for 24/7 use on air. The OC headroom of i7 depends on batch#, not the the model#.
Probably you can get a better 24/7 OC on air with a good batch# of i7 930 (you have a better chance to get a good batch# at the first days of release). I don't remember the exact resale date for 930, but should be here soon.
4 systems exactly the same OC? What are you up to, and what are you going to use them for?.
Fresh new 10 run LinX. Some Optimization from last run, ended up with following for now:
VVT = Vcore = 1.34v
QPI PLL = IOH Core = ICH Core = 1.14v
W3520 @4.51GHZ(215x21) 1.34v
http://img.techpowerup.org/100107/Ca...0-20100107.jpg
4.5 stable on air is :shocked:
:clap:
Awesome job... must get the butt of my cooler sanded smooth and then retry for some solid settings.
That is a great chip you have. Nice job. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
Congrats on your chip mate :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
Thx guys :)
It is always fun to push it a bit further, and I'm having some with this great CPU :) but the new MB and new Noctua NHD14 cooler should get some of the credit too ;)
How would one even go about finding a vendor that gives a you a specific batch number let alone a good one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
I was forced to pull the trigger on a order before I had done enough research that's why I have 4, 975's. Also I was worried that it was possible I would get a bad batch# on a 920 and it wouldn't be able to hit even 4.2, and I am in a situation where whatever I can get in speed that only requires throwing money at is worth it (within reason). Water cooling would increase complexity, increase failure probability, and increase the amount of work to do before a deadline, not to mention I have to have 4 SOLID systems. Can't have one of four machines bust a hose in 2 months.
The application is a image processing application written in C(ish) for Linux utilizing the BLAS libraries. And will be used in medical research settings. The more images I can process the faster the better. Possibly this will gain doctors the ability to save more lives. (That could be a bumper sticker "Overclock your computer: It saves lives.")
You're right about this motherboard, hopefully the Gulftown will drop right in when it comes out (assuming BLAS takes advantage of all six cores).
I was hoping I would get lower temps then I have but I suppose I will have to be happy with the 1.8x speed increase I got over the stock 920 in our server (can't turn off the server to overclock).
This weekend I may have a look back at all the voltages from different people posted so far and see if there are any other tweaks I can get out of this. So far I have only been messing with QPI, DRAM and CPU Voltages, I'll see if I can pull any more performance out of this thing.
-Luther
I see, interesting. I have been programming different kind of image processing applications for industrial use and simulations, using C++ and C# back in good old days. I have also been looking into CUDA (GPGPU, using the Nvidia GPU as a strong CPU) for image processing, just as hobby lately. Very interesting stuff, indeed. You guys still sticking to the CPU?
Some retailers have been telling about batch#, but not many of them. The best way to get a good batch# of Intel CPU, is to hit on the first days of release of a new CPU, is my experience.
Sam oslo: I ordered a W3520 from TankGuys, batch#3844A704. This batch isn't as good as yours, but I hope it is better than this 920. Should be getting it tomorrow.
Good job, #3844A704 is a very early batch, and therefore there is a good chance for having a good OC headroom. A fast goggling didn't reveal much about this batch#, share the results, this can get interesting.
EDIT: If I'm not mistaking, I've seen a few #3844 in this forum, but not exactly A704. A couple of these 3844-batches are very good OCer, but have a tendency to get extra hot clock-4-clock. Yours may not be the same, but you got water anyways, just in case. This can be interesting to follow.
Seems odd that the best batches would come from the first release... I'd think they'd get better with time.
Anyway, I have this mobo and a brand new W3520 to install tonight :) My batch # is the same as OC Nooby except I have the Xeon version and his is i7 920... 3945A906 is the number.
Your batch# may be good too, you won't know before you try it.
It is up to the luck, and sometimes Intel drops some good batches later too. It is very depending on a complex competition stuff, I guess.
Yes, the logic says they should get better by time, but Intel got a business to run, too. If these "cheap" low-end batches gets too good, then they can damage the sale of those "expensive" high-end CPUs, which are almost the same (just different multiplier).
Intel has released some high-end Xeon W3565 last month, and gauss what? They are all 3846 and 3847-batches. :yepp: EDIT: (don't wanna' be too sure, at least all those I have seen )
Intel stored them in a storage for almost 1 year to be used in new high-end chips now. It tells me enough about what batches to look for.
Wow, very interesting about the W3565! I wonder how high they can overclock.
And lol, 3846/47 batches for the super stuff and you got a 3848 3520, lucky lucky!! :)
edit: found this thread of a guy oc'ing w3565 if anyone's interested: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=238830
Yep, there you found a w3565 batch# 3846Quote:
Originally Posted by LarsMarkelson
And you have a 3847 here. These are really good high-end OCer chips, and both released last month, but the batches are from last year :)
Ok, Northbridge temps without the Extreme heatpipe cooler.
This is running at basically stock speeds for the moment. I haven't tried pushing anything at all while I'm making sure the initial build is stable in the first place. :)
Measured with Everest, along with a Fluke 62 infrared thermometer on the main heatsinks over the SB, NB, and the two heatsinks around the CPU socket. Temps after running LinX for an hour varied from 31-37C in those places. The case was closed up until the measurements were taken. Max temp on any of the CPU cores was 68C during testing.
System specs:
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7
i7 960 at 3.4Ghz (told you it was pretty much at stock)
12GB of G.Skill F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO (this RAM is great, running 7-8-7-24-2N at 1.4v, even with all six slots filled)
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus heat sink
Antec P182 case (all fans replaced with Noctua NF-P12)
There's pretty decent airflow through the case. No fans are directed at the sinks at the top of the heat pipes for the chipset, but the temps are still pretty low. I haven't replaced the stock thermal material, and probably won't with these temps.
The Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium card *barely* fit in the second PCIe 1x slot from the top. It stops just at the bend in the heatpipes.
If you want me to monitor NB temps with another app or check something else, let me know.
That's very helpful! Temps seem pretty decent even without the big cooler. I have an essence stx to fit in there so I'm hoping it's not too big otherwise I'll be forced to use one of the 8x slots.
I just compared the specs on the gigabyte site and the only differences i can find compared to the ud7 is the lack of 2 eSate ports and the cooling solution.Quote:
Originally Posted by pyn
Can anyone confirm this?
the price difference on newegg is quite big though (290$ vs 350$)
this difference seems similar as the difference between the old ud5 and ud7 (209euro vs 265 euro), meaning it shouldn't be much more expensive then the old ud5
still doubting a bit myself which one to get...
edit:
aha, just found another difference that didn't show up when using the gigabyte compare tool:
Advanced 12+2+2 power phase design with VRD 11.1 support on ud5
vs
Advanced 24+2+2 power phase design with VRD 11.1 support on ud7
guess i'm leaning more towards the ud7 again now... (although it probably doesnt matter much when cooling with just water)
edit 2:
and found another difference when looking closer:
Revolution energy saving design with DES 2 featuring hardware based Dynamic 6-Gear switching on ud5
vs
Revolution energy saving design with DES Advanced featuring hardware based Dynamic 6-Gear switching on ud7
does this mean that the new ud5 actually has better energy saving features then the ud7???
edit 3:
now it is getting more confusing:
on detailed specs of the new ud5 it does mention 2 eSata ports... now what is it? does it have or or doesnt have eSata??
Quote:
Originally Posted by KorbenD
Thank you for the data. What really suprises is me is the NB, without water cooling and the massive heatpipe, being about the same temperature as the SB. The NB everyone complains about being too hot. I guess when you seriously overclock is when the NB gets stressed and temperatures rise.
If it's not too much trouble, when you do some serious overclocking, let us know what the NB's temp is without the watercooling and heatpipe.
Thanks again.
The new UD5 and UD7 are basically the same except for a few differences. The UD5 is the air-cooled version, without the massive heatpipe solution and watercooling setup like the UD7. The only significant difference is that the UD7 has 24 phases and the UD5 has 12. It's disappointing, because the new UD5 was expected to have 24 phases. Everything else from the SATA to the energy saving features are the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mastakilla
Yet another question for all you UD7 owners.... Ive seen photo's of the boards bios, but it doesnt look like it support the saving of BIOS profiles? Is this so, or am I just missing them?
I take it that you mean saving your overclock or bios settings? If so then yes you can do that by pressing F11 when in bios to save your profile. To load them you use F12. Hope I have understood your question correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMK
Mark
Yep, thats exactly what I meant! Thought it would have been strange for such a high end board not to have them. Well, ive now made a decision, and im ordering one of these tonight... thanks for your help everyone! :)
I am sure you wont regret it, tis a great board. Enjoy when you get it and let us know how you get on with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMK
Mark
Does anybody here uses G.Skill Ripjaws RAM at 1600Mhz and has any luck overclocking them on this board? The highest overclock I got was 1830Mhz, though I've tried higher up to 1910Mhz, it can post but cannot boot into Windows. I guess its the RAM limitation, I suppose.
hello
do you use this model:
GSKILL PC3-12800 6GB Ripjaws CL8 (3x2GB) DDR3
Either RAM limitation or possibly not enough Vtt. I've got the G.Skill Trident 2000MHz sticks and I can run them at the rated speed but I have to use 1.6v Vtt to get them there because of the uncore speed required.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrono Detector
I think Gigabyte didn't include the tiny screws for the NB super cooler thing for me... I can't find them anywhere... anyone else find this to be the case?
i have mine, it packed with the thermal paste.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarsMarkelson
Same here - perhaps they were missed out on some packages though????Quote:
Originally Posted by nyeah
Mark
FFFFFFFFFF.... you guys got thermal paste? Yeah, that bag is nowhere to be found. No paste or screws. FFFFF!!! Man, that's why I got this board too, argh, time to go through the support process to get 4 screws! Well, let's hope the board isn't dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by tipes
Well, I am still waiting for the W3520 to show up, I ordered on the 5th, today is the 11th. I paid for Fed-Ex overnight shipping.
Who'd you go through? I got mine through costcentral overnight, shipped same day I ordered and showed up next day. They're running out of W3520s though, I would've done newegg but they were out when I tried (bout a week ago).
They sent an email today saying sorry for the delay, that the supplier did not ship the order like they were suppose to, that they would refund my full shipping charge, or if I wanted, cancel the order and give a full refund. That is fair enough for me.
I know a couple people from XS that have ordered from them with no issues, so it is best to give them the benefit of the doubt.
EDIT: Well I guess I wont be getting a xeon, they say they no longer have this batch in stock. It would be a random batch so I asked for a refund.
Hey Sam, I know earlier you posted that you were running the Noctua NHD14 in a push/push config but I see in your sig that your now running it in a push/pull/push config. Are you able to run your new config with both the nb heatpipe assy and 6gb (2x3) and would tall ram sinks block the use of the first fan? Would it still work at all with my Kingston Hyper-X memory? I am asking because I moved to the Mega Shadow a couple weeks ago and pending more reviews on the Venomous-X I was thinking about switching to either the VX or the NHD14. If its not a huge hassle could you post a pic of your set-up? Thx man
New BIOS:
GA-X58A-UD5 - F2c
-released 06.01.10
GA-X58A-UD3R - F2c
-released 08.01.10
Link
Chill out - I am sure it can be sorted out fairly easily. Hang in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarsMarkelson
Mark
Thanks... you're right. I definitely freaked out there... installed it without the super cooler and have hit 4GHz right off the bat. Now I just gotta find the right voltages to stay under 72C.
I'm getting 74C on Linx (max mem) for the hottest core with a Venomous X and San Ace H101 (full speed) setup. Here are my settings:
211x19 = 4GHz and HT on
ioh and ich - 1.2v
vdimm - 1.6v
cpu pll - 1.88v
qpi/uncore - 1.34v
vcore - 1.275v / 1.28v actual
2:8 RAM, uncore 16x, qpi 36x
Is 74/73/71/70 (max temps for all cores) a bad temp? Forgive my noobishness... I've never used Intel before and am following a guide's quick and dirty settings.
Dont know if anyone tried it before me, but tomorrow ill test my bord under liquid nitrogen, with my W3540 and 5770 both cooled by LN2. so far i've experienced a 'wall' at 238, lets see if -115 degrees celcius can fix some troubles, i want to get higher to get the max out of my cpu. 5450mhz +- isnt enough for 32M / 1M / cpu-z :)
obviously ill report back, hopefully no strange coldboot problems now!
Hey there.Quote:
Originally Posted by [HTO]Hunter
I've mounted the Noctua NHD14 blowing towards the back of the case using, NB-cooler, 2 fans, and 6 GB low-profile RAM, and it is working fine .
The first push-fan#1 will block the tall RAM in this orientation, but will just work without it.
In this orientation, you can't install a push-fan#1 with tall RAM at all. It will block even 3x2GB tall RAM . I can't use a pull-fan#3 either, at least not without moving the rear exhaust fan to the outside of the case. Fan#3 comes too close to the rear exhaust fan. (I didn't try this because I didn't need fan#3) .
You need low-profile RAM with this cooler, otherwise you will probably end up with just one fan in the middle. I didn't try the other orientation, but i think you will get in trouble with NB-cooler and push-fan#1, and the same problem.
You see, this thingy is HUGE. You need low-profile RAM (or change the cooler?) to sneak the RAM under it (at least for this orientation that I have tired), but the other orientation seams to have its own challenges with 2 fans.
Thx for the reply, I think I will attempt to do an impromptu center pressure mod on the backplane of my Mega Shadow to get some better temps for now, my temps aren't to high but I would like to get 4.5 24/7 out of this chip and I am fairly close. I think a few c drop may just do the trick. I have an old ss vapochill but I do not want the hassle of condensation (been down that road) + I have no clam shell/socket adapter for 1366 and I have alot of water cooling gear but I think I would prefer a worry free solution. I'll let you know how my mod works out.
Yeah, you really need that little extra (both mentally and practically) to run @4.5GHZ on air 24/7. I've been really enjoying it :D
Well, I gained 1-2 degree's by adding a bit to the top of the hold down brace of my Mega Shadow but I think I may remove it this weekend and try to use the 775 spacer on the backplate that comes with the Mega Shadow as a more permanent and possibly better solution. Once again I will update on my results ...... I am temped to just dump my 920 and pick up a W3520 but I will hold off for now :)
How do you make sure that the socket-pins are doing OK under the extra pressure?
No reason to dump your 920, @4.2GHZ for 24/7 is not too shabby. Getting the most out of what you got is the fun part, but if have to, wait for 930 before deciding.
As long as I keep the added pressure even I think I will be ok, the VX according to spec applies 70lb I am added a very minimal amount to the center brace and will be careful when I add the 775 rear backplate adapter .... if I overdo it I guess I need another ud7. With great reward comes great risk or so I have heard so I will keep tinkering until it breaks or something new comes out. I am just having a good time.
:D :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by [HTO]Hunter
That's what it's all about. Rock on!
Hey Sam_oslo,
Do you think the D14 mounts properly to where it wouldn't mess with the seating of the CPU for 12GB of RAM usage? I know this was brought up earlier, where someone's heatsink was causing the plastic to bow or something and the CPU would get moved just a tiny bit, but that would mess up using 12GB of RAM.
I really want to get the D14 now, seeing you hit 4.5 HT On for 24/7 is inspirational :clap: Plus my VX can't use Indigo Xtreme since you can still twist it side to side even with max pressure :shakes: So I figure I will be very happy :D if I get a D14 and install with Indigo Xtreme, and I will be very very happy :cheer2: if I can use 12GB RAM with it too. And ya it's low profile RAM (ripjaws) that Noctua says will work.
If you want to use 6x2GB with Noctua NHD14, then you have to make sure the RAM is low enough to sneak under the cooler itself.
Removing the first fan can help you to get away with 3x2GB tall RAM, but won't help with 6x2GB. Because while the second RAM slot gets blocked by then fan, the first RAM slot gets blocked by the cooler itself.
I don't know how tall the ripjaws is, but my Corsair XMS3 (EDIT: CMX6GX3M3C1600C7 link-egg if you want to check closer ) is low enough, with good margin, for 6x2GB. :)
If you need a few degree, then Noctua NHD14 could give the little extra to hit @4.5GHZ ;)
I'm already working on 4.6GHZ for 24/7. It is going to be a big challenge to keep this cool&quiet, but getting it stable is not a little one, either.
I'm not sure if this wil work for 24/7 (yet), but it is always fun to push it to the edge, anyways.
@4.6GHZ (219x21) 1.36v SuperPi32M ... and work in progress ..
http://img.techpowerup.org/100113/Ca...1-20100113.jpg
That's a fantastic effort... that cooler is really working well for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
How are the temps under full load?
At least trying :) , but didn't get so far to get a good assessment of load-temp yet.
I tired Vcore up to 1.36v, and VVT up to 1.36v, (and some adjustment on NB and SB voltages too) but have been getting BSOD after about 30 sec. in OCCT, Prime and LinX.
All run fine for about 30 Sec, but then suddenly something :confused: kicks inn, almost all at the same time.
I don't think it is the Vcore, maybe i need to pump more VVT into her?
EDIT: got a sight on error ;)
"Windows Desktop Gadgets has stopped working" came up for a fraction of the second .. .. and BSOD ..
30 sec. into the Prime-run. Still not sure know what's going on, maybe my double GPU (GTX 295) is acting again? but at least got something to go after ...
Wow, good work and luck on the 4.6, stick to it, if anyone can do it you and your chip can:yepp:
I added a bit more to my previous mod of the center hold down bracket and I think I may leave well enough alone, I am down 4c with 2 very thin washers on the lock in pins.
Wow... might be time to try it with one card you think? If it's stable at that and then you intorduce the 2nd card again and there's a problem... might be driver-related and out of your control?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_oslo
Once you get it all sorted and stable (if you have the time)... it would be great and really appreciated if you could post your full MIT settings please. I know there will be others like me who will be keen to see how the best of the best gets it done (and see where they are going wrong)
I've eliminated the Vcore, and adding VVT doesn't seams to be affecting it either.
Disabling one GPU in Nvidia control panel didn't help. But I don't trust that control panel, anyways .
I'm thinking more about the display-problems. Maybe the PCIe or the driver?
I've been using PCIe=100 all the time, but went up to 104, and adding voltages didn't have any effect.
I believe you have a good point with the driver. Nvidia has been releasing crap lately.
Maybe I have to find a good driver for GTX 295 first. Anybody knows about a good one?
This is gonna get more fun that i counted on, I guess.
I know a lot have been raising their PCIe up way higher than that (215-220 iirc), but I haven't worked out whether it's in the quest to get their BCLK stable or specifically to do with getting their graphics running higher.
:shrug:
I can boot up with higher BCLK by raisin the PCIe, but I couldn't see much effect on 24/7 stability, yet. I have tried these:
PCIe=100 .. can boot with BCLK221 and is 24/7 stable at 19x221 too. But BCLK222 won't boot at all.
PCIe=104 .. can boot up to BCLK227 (at least, i didn't try higher), but it is not 24/7 stable, and raining the PCIe up to 115, won't get 227x19 to run 24/7stable either. At least on my setup.
Higher PCIe makes my GPU to run hotter. I didn't bench the 3D, but the GPU seams to be performing better with higher PCIe.
Suspected that might be the case = just thinkin out loud.
May be driver related after all.... someone must know what's good and what's not.
I could be wrong Sam, but I dont think 1.36v will be enough at 4.6.
Here's mine, 1.3875 in bios, 1.34vtt. I can get it to run at lower vcore, but then GFlops will also go lower.
http://img.techpowerup.org/100113/4600_lix.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/100113/4600_linx_done.jpg
WC, DDC, HK 3.0, 2x360 rads.
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