3 Sapphire's here, bios updated without a hickup.
1000/1300 without artifacts,....
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3 Sapphire's here, bios updated without a hickup.
1000/1300 without artifacts,....
As far as tools go, once I flashed it to the Asus bios using the guide I have only been using the MSI Afterburner tool for overclocking and monitoring along with Everest for monitoring. I only went into the ATI interface initially to make sure it was taking the overclocks, but now I don't even do that.
so your saying basically flash the asus bios and use MSI Afterburner.
no need for amd tool either then?
thats best. amd tool is awful.
great card have to say :up:
which version ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gamer
1.2v vgpu for 1000/1300, 1.3v 1050/1300, 1.35v 1075/1300.Quote:
Originally Posted by Utnorris
5850 @ 1075/1300 :
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4...ge10751300.jpg
That's just sick. :up: Awesome card. Still stock cooling? If you crank that CPU up you could probably hit 21k-22k. Makes me wonder if the HD5850 is nothing more than a HD5870 cut down slightly.
im getting error 0fl01 with atiflash and that asus bios (Asus.HD5870.1024.090915.bin) on techpowerup
has it worked ok for you guys
cant think whats wrong with what im doing
Maybe, it's a .bin file not a .rom file. I used the one from the flashing guide and had no problem, but the Techpower up one with the .bin file wasn't even seen by ATIFlash.
Try to rename it to "rom" from Windows before you flash it.
yeah your right, didnt realise bin wasnt acceptable on atiflash, wheres the rom file located?
is changing the .bin to .rom do-able
5870 @ 1025/1325
http://i35.tinypic.com/v7gm7b.jpg
Look in this guide, he has it:Quote:
Originally Posted by F.stop
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...44&postcount=1
thx, done :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Utnorris
@ name GT = cpu ? i7 @ 4.2 GH/4.4 GH ?? gtx 275 oc ? :up:
4.4G / GTX 275 NormalQuote:
Originally Posted by Gaul
:D
That 5850 clock is amazing Henry.
Here's my single 5870 on water. (MCW60).
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/284...nglecard11.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2421/5870water.jpg
Kingpin & Shamino again
http://i.imagehost.org/0082/95k_entry_vantage.jpg
Damm nice !!! almost 100k !!!!
Very Nice clocks !
Lol! Wtf Insane Stuff BTW whats with the GPU temp and fan ? 21% 127c ? Would love to see Crysis bench with that insane system !
Benched using LN so no fans & the temp sensor on the cards do not read negative temps.Quote:
Originally Posted by psyside
Ah ok thanks ;) BTW anyone care to post some very high 4xAA 1920x1200 Crysis benchs with oc 5870/5870s? thanks in advance.
that easy...i can do that, give me 10 minutesQuote:
Originally Posted by psyside
here we go, daily setting 5870 @ 950/1300
or u can go here : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=236191
http://i38.tinypic.com/n3uogy.jpg
Ok man thanks :up: looks like no big difference to me, maybe with future drivers that will improve. Then again the single card performance is not bad just the crossfire scaling bothers me especially in Crysis (40% only from 2nd card,thats really low) :(
I've found that on my Sapphire 5850, RTHDRIBL causes lockups/artifacting/instability at lower clock/higher voltages than any other tests I've tried (inlcuding FurMark).
For those with 1GHz+ GPU OCs, what voltage do you need for RTHDRIBL stability (full-screen/maximized, maximum details)?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121349 I hope so we can finally get a unlocked freaking bios MSI makes this great tool but makes it useless because of the limits on the bios WTF. It is a pain in the ass to use to tools.
Here is the BIOS for the HD5870 with the 1800/2600 limits. Seems a lot of folks are pushing the 1200/1400 Asus BIOS limits already on water.
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=3307817
no problem here 1000/1300 1,225vQuote:
Originally Posted by ieatrawbacos
1.163v here, 1Ghz core, 1300 Mhz ram. MSI HD5870 flashed with ASUS bios and on water.Quote:
Originally Posted by ieatrawbacos
Here you go. This is with with adaptive AA on and 8x AF as well. Works pretty well if I must say so. 1000/1300 on the clocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by psyside
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/2153/frost19x12.png
Mine does fine through there at even 1.2v for 1ghz. Oddly enough what made me go to 1.225v was the Stalker: CS benchmark. It would lockup at 1.2v, but went perfectly smooth at 1.225v. Might want to give it a go after you get RTHDRIBL stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by ieatrawbacos
Anyone saved this msi bios can re-host it somewhere please? the official link is down...Quote:
Originally Posted by Utnorris
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZF7RUO8MQuote:
Originally Posted by nanamiSpecial
Enjoy.
Edit: I pulled this one right off my card, that's why it's a .bin instead of the original filename
Thanks for the tip, I'll have to give it a shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soultaker52
Ok, i've done some OC'ing last night.
GPU: 950mhz and Mem: 1300mhz @ Stock volts. I didn't go higher yet. Tested NFS: Shift last night and had nor errors or crashes.
BTW I'm looking at upgrading my CPU.
Which CPU would u guys recommend?
@ soultaker = 5850 or 5870 ?
@ all = anyone flash msi BIOS ? please report here......:welcome:
how to used 5870 with riva tuner ? add string ?
Could somebody flash a 5870bios into a 5850?
1600SP unlocked?:clap:
Don't think u can. We are all using the MSI Afterburner (which is built on rivatuner technology)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaul
Seems to work. Did it last night on a Sappire card.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaul
Kudos to MSI for this. I've never purchased a MSI product, but I'll start doing so if their reps keep up this level of involvement.
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/7...wccclimits.jpg
For all those having low scores on theirs HD5870 - the problem is cards BIOS!
Fellow member AussieFX has sorted his problems after applying fixed BIOS from MSI.
I will try to get that BIOS posted here but I suspect that any other (up to date) BIOS will fix that issue!
low like what scores?
*wonder*
Does the 1800/2600 BIOS have these performance fixes?
Results with Asus 5870 "voltage tweak" :)
http://www.overclex.net/data/images/news/asus58701B.jpg
http://www.overclex.net/data/images/news/asus58702B.jpg
i870 4GHz + Asus 5870 850/1200MHz
http://www.overclex.net/data/images/news/p17701.jpg
i870 4GHz + Asus 5870 1051/1350MHz @1.31v
It's max air :)
http://www.overclex.net/data/images/news/p20383.jpg
Impossible to use SmartDoctor... :confused:
I must use AfterBurner...
Soon watercooling and after... LNē...
nice, well try to oc, then i'll compare with asus bios. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Patch
or let me do...hmmmm
http://i33.tinypic.com/2cyc6p.jpg
nothing special here.....1000/1300 , FAN 45%
http://i37.tinypic.com/30bzonq.jpg
Have any other companies released updated BIOS for the 5870?
Since I currently have one of my ASUS cards on water, I'll see if I have time to flash it to the MSI BIOS tonight and do a direct comparison on the same card.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaul
Here's an hwbot link to what it does with the ASUS BIOS:
http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=908535
Like ~11000 GPU score in Vantage ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Oese
k..
Yah i've seen quite a few with that problem 11-12k 3dv, while everyone else is 15-16k stockQuote:
Originally Posted by Lightman
no one has that card?
Is there a 5850 bios available? Sapphire has a crazy limited bios.... doesnt oc worth :banana::banana::banana::banana:
I just bought a GTX275 like 5 days ago (always late to the Gfx party) :( I strongly think since I still have 10 more days on the Frys Electronics return policy...I should enforce it & snag one of the XFX 5870 cards :D Won't have to worry about Gfx for awhile & gives me something to play with.
Kind of disappointed with the ability to overclock and having more than one monitor present. If I increase even 1 MHz, I get flickering on both displays. However, if I disable my secondary display it's all good. :down:
Tested with all Catalyst drivers, even the 9.11 beta.
New drivers out for the 58xx series here is the link for download http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...icsdriver.aspx
5870, as in sig.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaul
no, min 16k for 5870 def....... :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
Apparently no Asus 5850 bios available... yet. I'm sure it will be up soon -- the Asus version of the card didn't seem to get to market as fast as some of the others and is just now getting into the hands of consumers.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattlef
Problem with low score has been sorted out for me in Vantage with the news drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
I now get GPU 17400 in vantage (GPU 1000 | MEM 1300)
Link to drivers
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206...Vista_Win7.exe
Try this if the top link doesn't work.
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...icsdriver.aspx
lol both links dont work :/
Seems like they pulled them.Quote:
Originally Posted by psyside
Here are newer drivers anyway. Cat 9.11 beta (Win7/Vista only)
http://download2-developer.amd.com/a...vista-win7.zip
still too low :eek:, must around 18.000 on 5870 @ 1000/1300 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mR Yellow
what CPU ?
17444p vantage 4ghz Ht off, 1ghz/1200 5850 win7 64bit.
9.11 ccc beta.
Phenom II 940 @ 3.6 with DDR2 800. This board of mine doesn't like a higher OC than that. :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaul
Nice clocks, how much voltage you needed for 1Ghz on GPU? care to share HIS 5850 bios? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by flopper
You copy-pasted them wrong. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by mR Yellow
The links are cut at the middle.
A good post from storm41 @ guru3d showing the performance of his overclocked HD5850:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.ph...5&postcount=52Quote:
CPU:
Q6600@3,33Ghz
Risen
2048*1152 , all max
725/1000
45fps
775/1125
48fps
850/1175
52fps
900/1175
54fps
950/1175
56fps
1000/1175
59fps
___________________
3DMark Vantage GPU Score
725/1000 (stock)
13175
850/1200
14970
900/1200
15589
950/1200
16102
1000/1200
16490
__________________________
Crysis
2048*1152 8*aa , very high
idle 157/300
122w
725/1000 1,088v
29fps 270w
775/1125 1,088(ccc max)
31-32fps 280w
820/1200 1,088
33-34fps 285w
850/1220 1,1
34fps 294w
900/1220 1,2v
35fps 325w
950/1220 1,2v
36fps 330w
1000/1220 1,3v
37fps 370w
_______________
FarCry2
2048*1152,DX10,all max 8*aa
725/1000
Average Framerate: 44,68
Max. Framerate: 72,00
Min. Framerate: 27,68
850/1175
Average Framerate: 51,04
Max. Framerate: 92,66
Min. Framerate: 32,06
______________________
NFS Shift 2048*1152 ,all max , 8*aa
725/1000
77fps
850/1175
83fps
1000/1175
88fps
______________________________________________
Call of Juarez 2
2048*1152 , all max
725/1000
134fps
850/1175
155fps
1000/1175
168fps
____________________________
L4D
2048*1152 ,all max , 8*aa ,16*af
725/1000
150fps
850/1175
170fps
_________________________________
Trackmania Nations Forever
2048*1152 , all max , 8*aa
725/1000
56fps
850/1175
62fps
1000/1175
65fps
__________________________________
RaceDriver Grid
2048*1152 , all max , 8*aa
725/1000
118fps
850/1175
136fps
1000/1175
149fps
________________________
Resident Evil 5
20482048*1152 DX10, all max , 8*aa
725/1000
82fps
850/1175
92fps
1000/1175
100fps
__________________________________
BattleForge
2048*1152 , all max , 8*aa
725/1000
27,4fps
800/1175
30,9fps
950/1175
33,4fps
_______________________
Anno 1404
2048*1152 , all max , 8*aa
725/1000
34fps
850/1175
40fps
1000/1175
45fps
_______________________
Stalker
2048*1152 , alles max , 8*aa
725/1000
66fps
850/1175
77fps
1000/1175
85fps
I use 1.274vQuote:
Originally Posted by spajdr
havent tried higher.
using a combo of msi afterburner and amd gpu clock,
waiting for asus/msi unlocked bios.
think i sent the bios to techpowerup http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/i...ace=&memSize=0
>20K in 3DMark Vantage with CPU @ 4GHz and HD 5870 with stock cooler? Yes mam :)
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/5585/1075mhz.th.jpg
Nice score :D
Wow you have the fan at 100% lol runs for earplugs
Anyone know a program to monitor vrm temps for 5850? Gpu-z only shows me the 3 core sensors. Would love to know vrm temps on stock b4 i switch core 2 water.
Grabbing popcorn :DQuote:
Originally Posted by trt740
I just picked up my second 5870. What I would like to see is a beta driver release for XP?
wow.anyone dare to test ???Quote:
Originally Posted by trt740
No use. XP is obsolete now. I suggest grabbing the RC of Win7 from somewhere if you REALLY hate Vista. That should hold ya off till the 22nd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robilar
I don't hate Vista. I just haven't seen any point in leaving XP. When a game finally arrives that forces me to upgrade to Vista or Win7 I will. Until then what is the point? I don't see any real benefit to being able to run Vantage...
In my opinion, an OS should be in place to run programs. I don't care about graphic tweaks, increased security (I have programs for that) or any of the other bloatware options included in Vista. Win7 is supposed to be an improved version of Vista but improved for other users.
On a side note, XP is far from obselete. The company I work for and many of the largest companies in North America still use it exclusively. Heck, most of the Canadian banks are still using Windows 2000.
That doesn't make it right. Its time to drop XP. As a long time XP user and Vista hater, Windows 7 is a great upgrade. I love Windows 7 - but I hated Vista. The best reason you have to leave it - you bought a brand spanking new card that is being held back by your OS. Its time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robilar
Hardwaredeluxx is testing that 5870 to 5850 modded bios, here is a screen. (1440 shaders at 850/1200 default clocks)
http://i38.tinypic.com/2pr9o49.jpg
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community...649717&page=23
Don't know about that, have a look at this German one, claims to have an unlocked 5870 bios on a 5850.Quote:
Originally Posted by trt740
The 1800/2600 BIOS seems to do OK with clocking compared to the ASUS BIOS, but there is a weird stutter on the desktop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaul
Vantage bench (CPU at stock with speedstep on) is pretty similar to what I got with ASUS BIOS.
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/3...card1115an.jpg
I haven't decided if I like it yet.
On another note, anyone found drivers that allow 5870 quadfire yet?
I used yesterday's CCC release and it will briefly enable all 4 cards, but always disables 3 of them after 5-7 seconds. Multiple reboots and several fresh installs gave the same results. Trifire works.
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7140/quad5870.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3170/quad2.jpg
anyone else have problems with these drivers? I tried them and got weird 2d text and blurr, even in 3d games everything looked ok but even text in games was all blurred and weird...Quote:
Originally Posted by mR Yellow
Did someone flash the 5870 bios over a 5850 card & it killed it? :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by xXxDieselxXx
Btw; I hope to learning more from you all & getting questions as I've just picked up my own XFX 5870 :up:
http://hdimage.org/images/ahnwlylctdl0b6o0vfff.jpg
Btw; I used search & google for switching from ATi - Nvidia & vice versa. I believe the path I'm taking is control panel > uninstall > driver cleaner > install card > Flash Asus Bios > DL Msi AfterBurner > Start Oc'ing :confused:
Correct. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by terrybogard
AMD GPU Clock Tool will show the VRM temps of the 5850.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt.McRuff
TYQuote:
Originally Posted by ieatrawbacos
Well erm, huh. So around 48-51c for them with voltage at 1.175.
I have a interesting limit. How to explain? So if i use 1.2 volts using msi afterburner after about 10-15 mins at STOCK SPEEDS it will artifact(using ati tool). Now its not temps, its under water for the core and its around 36c.
If I do 840mhz with 1.2v it will artifact almost instantly. setting it to 1.23 will cause it to artifact with no load. yet 1.175v i can hit OC of 975c (furmark) or 970c (atitool)
The power parts of my 5850 is a lemon? or faulty? :shrug:
My OC: 1300mem
1.088v 840c air and 860c water
1.15v 940c air and 955c water
1.175v 960c air and 970c water
the 40nm process has leakage, and some gpu works better under lower voltage especialy under water.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt.McRuff
that is one explantion.
What kind of cooling is on the memory/VRMs? Have you tried a lower memory clock? Is the GPU die making good contact with your water block?
I'm on the stock cooler, and my clocks continue to scale all the way to 1.3v+. Most other people are reporting similar thing. Cyprus doesn't do better with lower volts.
Patch - 8.66 RC6 (the original beta driver) works with 4 cards. I tested them here.
Regarding that 5850 with 5870 modded bios, from what I know the shaders are hard locked, so no chance in unlocking them with a bios.
MSI 5850 unlock bios (core/mem = 1500/2250)
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=106089
http://forums.guru3d.com/newreply.ph...eply&p=3311356
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrett_Wu
Finally heading to bed; Stopped testing @ 975/1275 @ 40% Fan Speed - 75C avg. temps. Just love this card, very glad I got the purchase. More to come later ...
Oh man! Im trying out the 5850! Right with GPU Tool:
core: 875
Mem:1250
It beats my prior 4890 crossfire setup! Im getting upper values in every game comparing it to 5870!:rofl:
Im gonna put it on water next week....:up:
msi unlocked bios 5850.
flashed and run 3dmark06, 4.2ghz i7 and broke 25k
1020/1200.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=12220598
http://www.svensknlp.nu/databilder/msi.PNG
edit: powerplay is acting up to for 2d, as I got 2 screens i get some flashing textures in 2d setttings.
is anybody owning the asus 5850 can tell me if he can increase gpu voltage with msi afterburner ?
Thanks.
Im going to keep telling myself that.:rofl: I can live with leakage, but not thinking something on my card is broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by flopper
Stock plate + some small heat sinks on the heat pipe for vrms, they seem much cooler than my 4890 which had same setup, from touch to temp software. Memory was test at stock speeds 1000 for voltage stuff, even though its good to 1300. I did a test contact with swiftech mcw60, contact was great. But of course after realizing the problem I took mcw60 off and checked, was perfect. A nice thin white transparent layer of Ceramique.Quote:
Originally Posted by ieatrawbacos
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/o...IMG_0057-1.jpg
BTW I took off the small heat sinks on pulse chips b4 putting it in.
here it is boys
Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodmaster
Quote:
Originally Posted by fornowagain
With this bios, you can use afterburner for everything on 5850; with asus bios you can use afterburner for everything on 5870.Quote:
Originally Posted by trt740
:up:
Unwinder made a note at guru3d about using self-modded bioses that aren't directly from a manufacturer (stuff you edited in RBE). He says "Reference design board and original AMD / NVIDIA VGA BIOS is required for proper voltage control on these cards. Voltage control may work improperly if voltage control circuit on the PCB or voltage table in BIOS is modified by manufacturer or by user"
Using this 5850 bios or the ASUS 5870 bios will be fine, they have hash + signature & standard I2c dump. Little overboard on the 5850 slider limits though... lol.