Whew! Haven't been this excited about a board in a long time :banana:
Congrats, Lastviking!
Whew! Haven't been this excited about a board in a long time :banana:
Congrats, Lastviking!
nice.. i hope i get similar results!!
Same here! This board has been teasing me for two weeks now, and now I finally get to have my way with it. :)
Mine's here. Looks like there will be a lot of people to really find out how good the average infinity is.
what are these voltage problems? I haven't heard of them before, whats the deal?
I own a DFI Lan Party nf2-B board.
Does it need a bios update? got the stock bios i believe.
thanks :)
Yes, flash using the latest beta bios. You should be set to go then. Oh...and make sure you slap on some extra cooling on the south bridge and if you can, take off the stock nb cooler, lap it, and reapply as5 or as ceramique.
So, now that your boards came in, have you had a chance to test them out yet? I'd love to see results. :)
naw i bet there too busy trin to figure out why there systems are rebooting all the time cause of the voltage problems that board has hehe.
Still waiting - think mine got put on hold due to that freightliner fire in Memphis this AM.
Hope you're wrong eclypse! And no, I don't want you to fix my computer, that's my job ;)
You've already been proven wrong...so you should really stop now...Quote:
Originally posted by eclypse
naw i bet there too busy trin to figure out why there systems are rebooting all the time cause of the voltage problems that board has hehe.
How have i been proven wrong? Point it out..Quote:
Originally posted by EnJoY
You've already been proven wrong...so you should really stop now...
2 more weeks of you boys testing and I will pick up one
any flash utilities for the bios updating? whats better, oskars bios for the LP or the official one?
also thinking of picking up some decent ram for this mobo to replace my ch5 stuff.
Any ideas?
Anyone else who has tested the board??I need more opinions to come to a decision :) Ill follow this thread till 10-15th of january,then ill go shopping! :D
this board DOES have a winflash utility right... i kinda dont have a floppy drive. that would suck if i had to do it the old fashion way!
Two words if it doesn't, Evil_Spork:
Bootable CD
hmm. i may have to do that.. cd-rw. score.
ok guys, i give in. Im GOING TO LEAVE ABIT!!! w00t! now, the serious matter...LANPARTY or INFINTY. W/O taking into consideration the $$$ , which is most suitable for me? HIGH FSB running on phase change 2500 barton
Infinity... why pay for all the extras if you dont need it.
ok, will one OC better than the other?
P.S. i really like the ability to turn it on and off when not using a case, like me.... im afraid of the LP-B not OCing like the infinity, since weve yet to see LP-B results
Mine is not doing so well and IS constantly restarting... not the usual lock. Can't even swing 200. I think the ultra chipset has some serious problems with my ram.
Voltage monitoring does jump around, all low, on my antec true power 430w.
I might just look in used sections for people jumping to opterons. I'm getting fed up now.
lol, yeah dude, ihave those same feelings man. im about tired of working with this crap. for the past 4 months its been nothing but getting new crap and wating for the next crap to come via fedex only to find that it sux too. so then i get something that shud do the trick and it sux also, and the cycle ontinues man. thats why im hesitant toward getting this ne mobo, b/c like eveything else, it will be nothing but crap
Just got myself the NF2 Ultra infinity. So far im running at 240fsb but I think this 3200XMS memory is holding me back :(
Im going to wait for the new official bios befor I go any higher.
I don't believe it. Everytime eclypse is visiting this thread he 's telling the same crap...
I don't have reboots anymore at 2Vcore and 11x253 11-2-2-2-2,0-9-12-en-en-fast I can 3Dmark and already got up to 23449 3DMarx :)
I will try for the vcore mod already waiting to be hooked up when I have my sys in the new flat we're moving to before this year's end :)
I wonder how somebody can flame dfi's infinity/LP Rev b and only has a crapy abit an7 himself :rolleyes:
I think he's jealous... :D
First time on this forum. Lots of stuff to tell but little time for the moment.
One thing though. Stability issues are probably releated with not connecting the 12 volt connector.
This is just a tought I got browsing across the different fora.
One thing is pretty weird, mine won't even work without the 12v connector inserted.
Just go away man..you are irritating and screwing up the thread :( There are lots of tweakers that want to read the stuff here and you are poluting it!! And then you insult OSKAR..why man? This is not your thread and what gives you the right to ruin it?Quote:
Originally posted by eclypse
How have i been proven wrong? Point it out..
Go buy your Abit and good luck with it :)
Sorry i was under the impression that it was infact my thread since i started it.
Sorry if i feel i need to express my impression on that POS DFI board.. Worst board i've ever had.. And yes this AN7 sucks as well.. There is no good boards left out there for the NF2 chipset.
Thats why i'm hunting for a good board for the 64 system since my chaintech also sucks..The Leadtek board sucks as well for the Opteron.
Heh if anyone out there knows of a good motherboard period then i'll try it cause everything is sucking.
Oh BTW..My Abit AN7's voltages are all dead on! ALl way over spec to what i have the post set at on my Antec TC 550WATT P/S.
3.3 is at 3.46
+5.0 is at 5.22
12v is at 12.66v
The same readings i get from the molex connector as well hehe. What that DFI say?
With my infinity I cant even OC my 2500+ by multiplier and high vcore. Voltages are low and fluctuate on a true power 430..
My AN7 sucked too. Really annoyed basically.
Yeah theres really no end in site for me pete. I'm about to just let my wife choose the next board since i cant make the right decision any more! If that will be for the 64 or opteron or FX system who knows where i'll end up.. hehe the only thing i havent tried yet is the FX and my wife will leave me if i order up one.. so she says. lolQuote:
Originally posted by texuspete2k2
With my infinity I cant even OC my 2500+ by multiplier and high vcore. Voltages are low and fluctuate on a true power 430..
My AN7 sucked too. Really annoyed basically.
Someone mentioned hand soldered resistors near mosfet area... doesn anybody have pics? I f the y add caps to that area it might mean there's an experimental fix to fix weak 5v/vcore lines.
Just a thought....
My Infinity runs GREAT with OLD DDR.
This OCZ PC3200 rev2 was bought in Jan03. Im pretty sure its BH5.
What Im thinking is .... you guys having problems with re-boots what DDR are you using and how old is it??
I have read of issues with the NEW or actually last batch of the BH5 chips not being very compatable with the newer nForce chipsets.
My Mushkin 3500 L2 BH5 sticks are atleast 5 months old.
ill take some pics right now and post if you like.Quote:
Originally posted by Iolao
Someone mentioned hand soldered resistors near mosfet area... doesn anybody have pics? I f the y add caps to that area it might mean there's an experimental fix to fix weak 5v/vcore lines.
expect pics in 20minutes.
any known issues with KHX3200 BH5 and this mobo? i have two dual channel kits of the stuff to test out. if neither do well in it, newegg gets em back and ill be getting mushkin because my 8rda+ either has an issue with the kingston or needs mor vdimm to run 225@2-2-2-5(only 2.88v)
eclypse, you dont count, bro.... everything you have touched the last 2 weeks has turned to :censored:Quote:
Originally posted by eclypse
My Mushkin 3500 L2 BH5 sticks are atleast 5 months old.
:stick: :D
j/k
heres teh resistor as you asked.:)
wow! I dont have that.
I think my AN7 and inifinity hate my ram while my old non ultra NF7S had no problem. I am guessing I have BH5. It was always board limited before. I thought I could stretch its legs but the boards must hate them. Cant even run 200 on either of the new boards I tried.
Thats NOT what mine looks like.Quote:
Originally posted by Evil_Spork
heres teh resistor as you asked.:)
Mine does not look hand soldered.
Looks very clean.
What kind and how old is your DDR?Quote:
Originally posted by texuspete2k2
wow! I dont have that.
I think my AN7 and inifinity hate my ram while my old non ultra NF7S had no problem. I am guessing I have BH5. It was always board limited before. I thought I could stretch its legs but the boards must hate them. Cant even run 200 on either of the new boards I tried.
High temps on the Dfi board..
Try to fix some cooling on them to get more stability!
Yellow=50->
Red=70-> (very high temp :/)
Higher Vmem = Red temp goes higher.
i have brand new BH5 in the form of KHX3200.
i have ram sinks for all the lil chips on this board.. i have 8 now and 24 more comming.
i think im gunna try 4 ram sinks on the SB, i think that may get better contact than the stock SB sink and with some airflow on it should cool fine. right?
Does the Infinity like that new BH5?Quote:
Originally posted by Evil_Spork
i have brand new BH5 in the form of KHX3200.
i havent had time to test it.
ill be testing in an hour or so probably. i hope at least.
for anyone interested, heres a pic of the ICs to the right of the cpu socket on my infinty.
i beleave the smaller one is the vcore reg. i pulled up some specs of it, seems pin3 to ground with XXXX resistance will be out vcore mod. possibly 5k ohm or something.... thats the pin that detects the outgoing voltage and so if than is resisted it should yeild higher voltage to the cpu socket.... in theory. much like how i found the vdd mod on the AN7.. but fried it due to lack of resistance.. i grounded the in.. :rolleyes: no mroe late night vmod testing.:p:
That's not vcore reg. Vcore reg is near the mosfets, on the agp slot and it's labelled HIP6301. Mod is pin7 to ground with 50k pot.Quote:
Originally posted by Evil_Spork
for anyone interested, heres a pic of the ICs to the right of the cpu socket on my infinty.
i beleave the smaller one is the vcore reg. i pulled up some specs of it, seems pin3 to ground with XXXX resistance will be out vcore mod. possibly 5k ohm or something.... thats the pin that detects the outgoing voltage and so if than is resisted it should yeild higher voltage to the cpu socket.... in theory. much like how i found the vdd mod on the AN7.. but fried it due to lack of resistance.. i grounded the in.. :rolleyes: no mroe late night vmod testing.:p:
Thank you :) I don't know what's on my mobo as I'm not at home right now, however I don't remember that hand jobs on my mobo. This pic made me remember about another observation: have you seen how many missing caps are on the pcb? They are those circular areas, half white and half red, in which you can measure the voltages with DMM. Well it seems that voltage problems are either due to missing caps (whose work is to be a buffer all along the board), either due to poor voltage regulator or bad high resistance traces on the pcb; I know I'm speculating a lot but this is what I suppose will reveal how to make this board fly...Quote:
Originally posted by Evil_Spork
heres teh resistor as you asked.:)
that circled in red is really hot on my board too! After that I provided some cooling on the back, I was finally able to use all vdd while before I was stuck at 1.7v. I suppose that can also help stability for all having problems at high vcore/high vdimm in the same time.Quote:
Originally posted by Lastviking
High temps on the Dfi board..
Try to fix some cooling on them to get more stability!
Yellow=50->
Red=70-> (very high temp :/)
Higher Vmem = Red temp goes higher.
ahh thanks. good to know. i was just guessing.Quote:
Originally posted by Iolao
That's not vcore reg. Vcore reg is near the mosfets, on the agp slot and it's labelled HIP6301. Mod is pin7 to ground with 50k pot.
anyone found a vdimm mod yet?
If anyone needs it, here's a link to a good guide on a bootable CD for BIOS flashing: http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/#clean
thanks though i wont need it for a while.. my infinity was DOA.. major voltage issues of some sort.. ym cpu fan would speed up and slow down all over the place so i assume the rest was like that then finally it wouldnt boot at all, ohwell newegg gets another RMA from me.
Hope to get mine tomorrow. With any luck I won't get an RMA. Sorry to hear about yours, Mr. Spork! :(
I asked SAE to make some pics as I don't have camera, but unluckily he can only get to make pics inside the case so the area I'm interested in is partially covered. If you are able to, you could try to take some hi res pics in the area between dimm slots and southbridge, just under the mosfets and towards the agp slot, hope to be clear :)Quote:
Originally posted by Evil_Spork
anyone found a vdimm mod yet?
I just rang Interlink Express (the dudes that are delivering it) and they said it is in a Vehicle on its way to me now :D :D
not long now
Ok,
Got 2 more Infinity boards in on Friday but had to work over the weekend so I didn't have a lot of time to prime test and so forth. I found that these boards are very different from the first one I got that was a week 24 NB and made in China and had a metal CPU latch. These both were week 45NB's and had the traditional N2 plastic brown CPU latches and were both "Made in Taiwan". The rails were better at 11.75v but not the full 12v I was looking for with my Fortron 400 but I got over it. Both the boards ran fine without any unusual hiccups. I got the TwinMOS to nearly 250FSB with very tight timings on the 4.3nm stuff at 11-3-2-2-2 Cas2 9-12-enable-enable-Fast at 3.1-3.2vdimm (249*10 3837ALU/3581FPU). Anything past 249FSB was shaky and would have to lower the timings to get a little past 250FSB. The TwinMOS PC3700 ram is not going to make it past 255-260FSB at all, to do this it will take different sticks to get there. Still working...
vector7
Edit: Oh I almost forgot, there is no need to do the L12 wire mod to these boards. Just drop any 133FSB CPU in and they will overclock past 240FSB depending on the ram without a problem.:)
iolao i can take pics of whatever you want. i still have my infinity and my new one arrives tomorow. name what you want pics of and ill get you pics from every angle in very high res.Quote:
Originally posted by Iolao
I asked SAE to make some pics as I don't have camera, but unluckily he can only get to make pics inside the case so the area I'm interested in is partially covered. If you are able to, you could try to take some hi res pics in the area between dimm slots and southbridge, just under the mosfets and towards the agp slot, hope to be clear :)
what bios are you using for the the Infinity.. and does the
sata ports still work at high fsb speeds..
take loads of pics!:DQuote:
Originally posted by Evil_Spork
iolao i can take pics of whatever you want. i still have my infinity and my new one arrives tomorow. name what you want pics of and ill get you pics from every angle in very high res.
all the chips! ;)
i might pick one up after the new year.:cool:
sure thing.
if anyone wants some specific pics of the board ill prvide. im gunna be takin pics in about 15minutes. hit me on AIM @ evilspork3 or PM me and i can send you the full size pics.
Here's a pic between the DIMM slots and the SB. It was 1600X1200 but the forum upload limit made it necessary for me to do some sizing/compressing:
BTW, mine came with the 4 mount holes around the CPU.
all of the new DFI do. lol:cool:Quote:
Originally posted by sjohnson
BTW, mine came with the 4 mount holes around the CPU.
ill take some pics myself and post em.
i can get great macro's if you want. lemme know
Ahh, my bad.
heres a shot i took. more or less the same, might show soemthing differant.
again ill do some nice macros of a tiny area if anyone wants.
Those thingies beneath the dimm slots,are they mosfets too??Do they require cooling as well?Like the other six?How many are they total on the motherboard that need cooling (mosfets and little chips i mean).Anyone tried to cool the FSB PLL?
the left most mosfet in that pic needs cooling.. it gets really hot.
i put ram sinks on that and my cpu mosfets and both got hot. i also used 4 ramsinks for my SB and that got VERY hot. i had the board running for only about 20seconds but they were pretty hot.
Hey spock thnx for the reply...if i ain't asking much,could you post some pictures of your board with the chipsinks you use to cool it??
sure ill post tonight when i get my new board. my first one i tested the other day was DOA, had some weird problem with grounding or voltage. not sure. new one gets here today.
ill slap the sinks on it and take pics.
ill have two pics, one with sinks on what you need to cool and one with sinks on *EVERYTHING* lol.. i have 32 ramsinks to use so more or less everything is gettign sinked.
sorry for the off topic question: I just got my Infinity and can someone tell me what the beta bios date code and numbers show up during post? Is it just by date? Already beginning to like this mobo compared to my new nf7-s POS!
Thanks! :)
not sure but im pretty sure thats soem kind of date or version number for the bios. i only got mine to boot to that point twice so.. ya.
cool thanksQuote:
Originally posted by Evil_Spork
not sure but im pretty sure thats soem kind of date or version number for the bios. i only got mine to boot to that point twice so.. ya.
yeah I think the bios flash worked, seems like before with the original bios high fsb was impossible.
thsat seems to be a recurring theme. i talked with three infinity owners tonight and the two who tried with BH5 both hit 250 1:1, one hit 255.Quote:
Originally posted by JAWS
cool thanks
yeah I think the bios flash worked, seems like before with the original bios high fsb was impossible.
the stock bios was only allowing about 220 then with a flash 250 came easy.
Very good to hear.
How's the progress on that pic of your board spork?
Also, who is working on a vcore mod for this board, because that seems to really be a must.
Agree, I setup my Infinity last night then flashed the 12-18 beta last night. Still working on it but at 245 11-2-2-2-9-12, Enabled, Enabled, Fast and Aggressive. BH-5@3.3, Vdd@1.7Quote:
Originally posted by JAWS
cool thanks
yeah I think the bios flash worked, seems like before with the original bios high fsb was impossible.
Interesting how the new BIOS supports bigtoe's observation that the BIOS is the major roadblock to high performance and that they often appear to be purposely crippled.
and because of that comment..Quote:
Originally posted by Fewture
Just go away man..you are irritating and screwing up the thread :( There are lots of tweakers that want to read the stuff here and you are poluting it!! And then you insult OSKAR..why man? This is not your thread and what gives you the right to ruin it?
Go buy your Abit and good luck with it :)
Oskar_wu has left us :(
no more new beta BIOS to try :(
how is that statement negative toward OSKAR_WU? and why wont he be here any longer? because from the statement, it seems as though fewture was defending him in a way...
::confused::
I believe he was referring to Eclypse's original post, pertaining to Oskar_Wu.
sorry I was referring to Eclypse's original post.Quote:
Originally posted by bigpoppa
how is that statement negative toward OSKAR_WU? and why wont he be here any longer? because from the statement, it seems as though fewture was defending him in a way...
::confused::
Thank you all for the pics. I asked Holst to have a look, let's hope to hear him soon ;) In the meanwhile I will have a friend of mine trying to find this vdimm mod as well.
Hi all.
The Vdimm is regulated by a simtech SC2616 the same as used on several other modern boards including the Epox 4PDA2+ rev2.
http://www.semtech.com/pdf/sc2616.pdf
The successfull mod for 4PDA2+ is detailed here.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...threadid=23714
So the same pryncipals should apply.
The FB mod is pin1 to ground using 200k VR on 4PDA2+, resistance values may differ on this board so please take your time when turning the pot.
Question is where can you solder onto pin 1 (as this is an MLP package) This is pretty easy as with the excelent pics ive been sent we can easily follow the trace from pin1 to a SMT resistor on the board that we can easily solder onto.
The below mod is UNTESTED and should not be attempted unless you fully understand what you are doing.
I would appreciate if somebody could tripple check that I have got pin1 correct, and that my other logic is sound.
Fast enough for you :PQuote:
Originally posted by Iolao
Thank you all for the pics. I asked Holst to have a look, let's hope to hear him soon ;) In the meanwhile I will have a friend of mine trying to find this vdimm mod as well.
hehe
Thank you Holst! :D
maybe im missing something, why on earth do u need more vdimm? just to see if it will go higher? b/c youre a fool to run more than that on a reg. basis, IMO
Then I'm a fool :D :banana: :D
lol :D glhf
2 Bad i´m a fool 2 then :)..i need more then 3.3v to get higher then 260mhz cas 2.2.2.11 with my 2x512 sticks.. anyone know if +3.3 v needs to be higher then vmem?on this board.
If the 4DPA2+ is anything to go by the Vdimm will be scourced from the 5v line... so you should be able to get 4v+ using this mod.. although you should be able to easily confirm this by poking the mosfets with a DMM.
just fyi, modules wont last too long when theyre are constantly run with that much voltage...afaik
3.3 is even pushin the envelope
Got a question... kind of a dumb one... so i measure the voltage from the psu with my dmm.. easy since the plug is off the mb. but of course i want to measure the v with the mb running to account for the voltage drop that will take place, right? this way i can tweek the pots to bring it back up to [wherever]. so my q is: how do i access the pins with the plug plugged into the mb?
I got my RMA back from Kingston. I traded some killer bh5 sticks for some ch5 in hopes it was incompatible with my nf7-s 2.0. Well, I got the sticks back the day after Christmas threw them in and same old story. I couldn't get it over 211fsb stable. So.. I got mad took it out of the case took it back to the store and paid the difference for the DFI rev B.
As soon as I got it setup, I went straight for 10x230. It booted up and ran 3dmark 2001 no problem. I raised it up to 240fsb and ran prime 95 for 6 hours. Now I'm priming at 10x242fsb aggressive, 11,3,2,2,2, enable, enable, fast. 1.9vdd, 3v ram, 2v v-core. I don't have any voltage problems although it undervolts vcore to 1.95v sometimes. I think in just one day this board is my favorite of all time. I'm really impressed with this board so far at stock with no mods. I havent had one lockup yet. It failed to boot at 250fsb so I backed it down to 242 for some more testing.
Not dumb!Quote:
Originally posted by EnJoY
Got a question... kind of a dumb one... so i measure the voltage from the psu with my dmm.. easy since the plug is off the mb. but of course i want to measure the v with the mb running to account for the voltage drop that will take place, right? this way i can tweek the pots to bring it back up to [wherever]. so my q is: how do i access the pins with the plug plugged into the mb?
With a fine DMM probe, you should be able to slip it in from the wire side.
You could also slip a piece of paperclip in there, but be careful of shorts in any case.
You could also salvage some old molex connectors and solder them to the leads, making a more permanent test point.
Great results wolf!I am glad to hear such things since it will be my next motherboard (the lanparty B).Let me know if you have any stability issues @ 2volt vcore after further testing
Hehe thank you for your support :D you definitely answered fast... I cannot test myself vdimm mod until my return at home, I think your 200k vr and turning down method is quite safe if you are able to check voltages (better with a DMM).Quote:
Originally posted by Holst
Fast enough for you :P
hehe
I'm of your opinion. I checked with DMM 5v line on mobo's mosfets and it gets low when raising vdimm. One thing you should consider is that if having for example vdimm really high (take 3.6v) your 5v rails is gonna drop a lot and that can cause instability problems not ram related...Quote:
Originally posted by Holst
If the 4DPA2+ is anything to go by the Vdimm will be scourced from the 5v line... so you should be able to get 4v+ using this mod.. although you should be able to easily confirm this by poking the mosfets with a DMM.
just be acreful reading things with a DMM on a live mobo. ive killed a board b4 from carelessness while measurin voltage on a nf7 that was running, it takes one unsteady move and thats it, poof, it will short and ull be done with. just be extremely careful, for it wud sure be a shame to lose an infinty over that.Quote:
Originally posted by EnJoY
Got a question... kind of a dumb one... so i measure the voltage from the psu with my dmm.. easy since the plug is off the mb. but of course i want to measure the v with the mb running to account for the voltage drop that will take place, right? this way i can tweek the pots to bring it back up to [wherever]. so my q is: how do i access the pins with the plug plugged into the mb?
Thanks a lot for the reply. :)
Wolf, was that with dual channel enabled?Quote:
As soon as I got it setup, I went straight for 10x230. It booted up and ran 3dmark 2001 no problem. I raised it up to 240fsb and ran prime 95 for 6 hours. Now I'm priming at 10x242fsb aggressive, 11,3,2,2,2, enable, enable, fast. 1.9vdd, 3v ram, 2v v-core. I don't have any voltage problems although it undervolts vcore to 1.95v sometimes. I think in just one day this board is my favorite of all time. I'm really impressed with this board so far at stock with no mods. I havent had one lockup yet. It failed to boot at 250fsb so I backed it down to 242 for some more testing.
Yep dual channel enabled. I have been able to drop the chipset down to 1.6v and it's prime 95 stable at 10x240. My voltage rails seem stable although higher vcore would have been nice. I can't seem to get a post at 250fsb with my board. I can bench up to 248fsb but 250 just fails to post.
Each of these boards "feels" like a hand-made car - like a Ferrari.
Each is fast yet each has it's own personality.
Mine is bootable at 250 Dual-Channel but not every time. Haven't tried a single stick yet.
hmm
im not sure if vdimm/my ram is holding me from 250. but 250 wasnt happy and murdered my hdd.. so.. hmm. i guess ill have to do the mods on this board and see what i get.
I was defending Oskar yes.. It is good to have a guy like him here and then he gets insulted. I don't understand that :rolleyes: He was giving good info that helped us all..we should have some respect for the man right?Quote:
Originally posted by bigpoppa
how is that statement negative toward OSKAR_WU? and why wont he be here any longer? because from the statement, it seems as though fewture was defending him in a way...
::confused::