Great case! Maybe going to Corsair after many years of CM cases. The setup looks really good with very nice features not seen in other cases. Will there also be a case without the sidepanel window?
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Great case! Maybe going to Corsair after many years of CM cases. The setup looks really good with very nice features not seen in other cases. Will there also be a case without the sidepanel window?
Not to me they're not. I'm not interested in water cooling. I base my purchasing decisions on personal criteria.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
Corsair needs to develop some 5.25 to 3.5" convertor accessories, for those of us who expect to fit more drives into the case
How many drives are you going to be using? 6 bays, 4 of which are hotswap
I was saying it based on you posting that the price of the canyon might go lower with this case coming to market, and pointing out that from a manufacturer standpoint it would make no sense for the price of the Canyon to come down with the release of a fullATX case meant for liquid cooling would lower the price of a mid size case meant for air cooling.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaskuli
Its like saying Ferrari is going to lower its car prices because Ford lowered theirs.
I say Canyon will not go down........
that's a shame, but.....
No need for the condescending tone. I understand the way you see things and respectfully disagree. Regardless of the amount of quality the ABS Canyon has, its price is still inflated... I bought a brand new Nikon D200 Body for $599... I think the car comparison is epic fail. Ford? Come on... The 800D is not a direct rival to the canyon, but it might convince potential buyers of the Canyon like myself to think twice - since it retails for about 200% of the price. Is the Canyon twice the case the 800D is?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
Dumb question: ABS Canyon = lili Tyr X2000?
Yep, rebranded basically.Quote:
Originally Posted by prava
I asked my contact at lian-li this question and he told me that ABS bought all the rights to sell the TYR-X2000 in north america, so there is really no chance of getting the lian-li branded version and there is most certainly no difference between the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by prava
Car comparison did not necessarily have any direct relation to the quality comparison of the 800D and Canyon. It just popped into my head first.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaskuli
soooo, Red Beard has gone awful quiet on us...
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Originally Posted by Cliff Burton
Ok, I was looking for info in google about the ABS and I was like WTF I thought I saw this into the Lili website too :rofl::rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
Sorry guys I'm out on medical leave for about a week. Just saw this in one of my bouts of clarity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandito
nice video interview from Hexus here
http://tv.hexus.net/show/2009/06/COM..._with_Corsair/
Also a new mid-range chassis on its way by Xmas period (no other details)
ps Hope you get better soon Redbeard :)
The case looks great. I'm really impressed with the thing -- even more so considering it's a first effort. Unfortunately, it doesn't suit my needs this time around, but I'm keeping it in mind for an upcoming build. I'll be sure to recommend the case to friends as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redbeard
Feel better, man.
That sucks to hear, get better man, best wishes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Redbeard
hey,... how about joining this two into one single hole??
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...nta/t9ijxd.jpg
if they did that they'd have to have a new grommet manufactured to fit the non standard hole which would likely cost them more money for little extra benefit.
i can see why it'd make sense to be one hole, it's really obvious why, but it's more obvious to me why it's not. the majority of the grommets look interchangeable, 2 main sizes, this likely decreases cost and complexity in assembly and manufacturing.
it also could be that there's an added structural benefit to having the two openings divided in the middle.
doesn't seem like you'd really NEED one large opening, in fact i think it could be argued that 2 openings is better.
i don't know corsairs reasoning, but i'm guessing it's along those lines.
I don't think making those two grommets into one large one will make the case any less structurally sound - it's made of steel and there's plenty of other tricks they've used to make it sturdier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandito
Making it one large grommet has the advantage of making it universal to all motherboards, so no matter where the connectors are it'll be compatible. Actually, it might be cool to have one huge grommet the height of the motherboard so that any and all connectors can go through there.
Oh I forgot that RIIE is a little bit extended...
And, yes my thought is, it would be sucks to plug two uppermost sata port on that board
you didn't mention the biggest reason, cost!Quote:
Originally Posted by YMAA
like i said, using one large grommet means you now need 3 different sized grommets manufactured.
really i don't see what additional functionality one large grommet might add. you might get a tad more flexibility with where the cable route, but it's hardly worth the extra manufacturing cost.
i just don't see a situation where one larger grommet would be all that much more beneficial.
i can sort of see an argument for aesthetics, but even that can be subjective (i like the current design with 2 smaller grommets)
either way i'm sure that aspect is not going to be changed in the final case, and i think the vast majority of buyers will be fine with that.
as i see it you lose no real functionality by NOT using one large grommet. that little 0.5-1" space between the grommets just isn't going to make a difference. i can't think of a cable in a pc that is wide enough to be bothered by it.
edit: maaaaaaybe ide ribbon cables, but if you're still using those, a 300 dollar case might not be your best NEXT upgrade.
Ah, so you're a Corsair employee working on this case? Wait, you aren't? Oh, so you don't know what the official reason for not designing it that way is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandito
It's entirely possible that cost isn't the reason that hasn't been done yet. Likely, in fact. But until you get word from a Corsair rep that it would in fact be too expensive for them to do the grommets that way don't put words in their mouths. And I'd be willing to bet that for a case this expensive a few cents here or there for a larger hole and grommet won't increase the price by a whole lot.
i already said i don't know the official reason. doesn't mean it doesn't sound like the most obvious one. a few cents for a mass production can add up.Quote:
Originally Posted by YMAA
again i don't know how the cases are assembled or the parts made, but my guess is they're not off the shelf parts as a whole. my guess is they'd have to retool the machine to make the new longer grommets, retool the machine that makes the mobo tray, there might even be changes made to assembly that cost money. so it's really more than just a few cents for the extra material. that cost has to go somewhere. AGAIN, this is my speculation, and my speculation only. i think it's reasonably accurate, but i build houses, not computers.
your speculation is it won't cost much more, i disagreed, i hardly see any reason to go on the offensive. :shrug:
i bet we can both agree it'll be a great case regardless of hat one minor detail :)
btw...NCIX has the X2000 on order, so maybe the canyon in the us but...Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
anyways, I'm still going to wait out on official reviews, I dont need a case, nor would I have room for it in my current layout even if I did, but if i ever found a place to use one, I probably would
Definitely. :up: I don't need the temptation to spend any more money though, I bought my TJ09 hoping it would last more than a year, but I don't know how long that plan will hold up...I'm thinking I want a better case for water :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandito
i hope they have a side panel with a super large window, id almost want to leave the side panel off just show off every last detail
bump for news
Hmm..only one intake fan bothers me, but I'll wait to find out what the thermal tests show before I draw conclusions. I don't water cool (for now), so airflow is important to me.
Other than my issue above, this is a fantastic case!
bump
how proceed the distribution to the different shops?
Better-positioned fans beat more fans any day of the week. That's why the TJ09 does so well with only one intake fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuance
^ I agree, which is why I am waiting to see some "professional" reviews/tests. I look forward to it.
I was just wondering how the hotplug drive bays work if you have a 2.5" ssd in a caddy (or loose for that matter)
It won't work if the drive is loose, but we used a caddy (this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817994064) to hook up four of our P256 SSDs in RAID 0 for Computex.Quote:
Originally Posted by Admiral_Wiz
Excellent, I'll definitely be picking one up when they are available in the UK :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Redbeard
I just want a solid release date...redbeard?
So do i
Working on it now, all I can say is Q309 for right now. If I could sell the thing tomorrow I would, trust me on this. I've been working on this thing for over 18 months now, so I want this thing in your hands worse than you guys do.
ARRRR! i smell a mutiny a brewin...we may have to make the scurvy dog walk the plank!Quote:
Originally Posted by Redbeard
I could ship it next in 2 weeks with the wrong CPU backplate cutout and a few other minor problems, and it'd probably still get great reviews everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandito
Or I could fix the stuff, wait an extra month or so, and ship the product the way it's supposed to be.
I want the first case product we sell to be as good as we can make it - so sorry for the delay, but it's the right thing to do, I think.
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Redbeard
goodluck and have fun :p:
anyway you should look at CM Haf922
i think that cut for the backplate is perfect :up:
if you want i can take some picture for you
What a 'job'.:shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Redbeard
Got one on the way actually. We're going to be doing it a little larger than that I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by |SiLA|
any news?
This is one of the best looking cases i have ever seen, honestly, if the cooling part of it is good, i will be owning one of these.
Will there be an adapter for 2.5" SSDs for the hot-swap bays?:)
Maybe i missed it somewheres.:confused:
Nope, you will have buy your own. For computex, he used an ICY dock model. I believe he even linked to the newegg a few pages up.
Its understandable, actually. If you can afford an SSD, you can afford a 30$ adaptor.
So what will the final weight be? After having the pleasure of building a machine in a 22kg+ Kandalf I can say without hesitation i'll never consider a steel case again in my life, no matter how good it is.
Hahah, I remember those! I used one for about a year and a half, because I liked the looks online (I know, I know, in my defence I was still a teenager at that point). Never again - nearly busted my back carting that thing to LANs.Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Cyph3r V2
If anything, wheels should be added to this case, even though it has some room at the bottom for air inlet, I'm probably guessing most people will have on carpet. If price is an issue, at least give us the option to pay extra for wheels or something. It's gonna be a pain to move once you set it down.
ya +1 would be nice to have some li-li like casters
It's a large steel case and fairly heavy, so we're including a small electric motor and tank treads.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeaponX
Okay, just kidding.
It's an interesting idea - let me look into it.
NO WHEELS PLEASE!
they look ridiculous IMHO
it's a computer, not a motor vehicle
i think wheels would completely detract from the style of the case, i can't think of any way you could make them look as good as the current feet.
they will probably be thrown in the box as an accessory. just as cooler master does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandito
Agreed, my armor weighed about the same. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Cyph3r V2
This case is heavy, I'm not going to lie.
It's not heavy enough that the gravity it generates attracts smaller cases that orbit it like moons or something, but it's fairly heavy. I don't know the actual weight. If you're looking for a LAN party case, this isn't it.
I support wheels. Optional. ;)
"Weight is a sign of reliability. I always go with reliability." - Boris the blade aka Boris the bullet dodgerQuote:
Originally Posted by Redbeard
Good news everybody - the SATA hot-swap drive caddies are now compatible with SSD drives natively with no need for an adapter.
http://forum.corsair.com/forums/show...&postcount=100
will any SSD be compatible, or just corsair ones? i hanvt a clue about the standard mounting holes for 2.5" drives
These are standard mounting screwholes on 2.5" laptop/SSDs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
Great work! This case keeps getting better. Any updates on availability?
The videos floating around online had said late June/Early July. Perhaps it's just about time to start seeing them? I'm perfectly OK with a delay here or there if it means better quality and attention to detail. It looks like Corsair has dotted all it's i's and crossed the t's on this one. Can't wait to get myself one :up:
Redbeard, think you can get one mailed to me on the house? :lol:
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Originally Posted by Bgriffs
Haha, one day I'm going to surprise somebody and just pick some forums guy and PM him for his address and ship him some hardware provided he posts pics and tells everyone how awesome I am. I am not above trying to buy your love and respect.
Seriously though - availability is delayed like I mentioned earlier because we're enlarging the CPU backplate cutout. It works fine for most 775 boards but in order for it to be compatible with 1366 and 1156, we're going to have to make it bigger. The new cutout will be like half the size of the motherboard tray almost and will even accommodate unique boards like the eVGA classified with its custom socket placement.
Retooling that cost us a bit of time and money, so officially we're still saying "Quarter 3". I'd say, though, that it cost us about a month of time assuming everything goes well.
This is a lot of fun for me - I've been at Corsair 5 years, started working in the lab as the guy who swapped out Samsung TCCD memory modules trying to find the fast ones so we could make 275 MHz DDR1. Now I'm a Product Manager and I'm taking your guys' feedback and trying to make this thing as good as I can make it for you guys.
I know I can't make all you guys happy - some people want full aluminum, others want glowing LED lights, others want a mini-tower or an ITX case.
But this is Corsair's first case and coming in with a cheap, "me too" case that's an off-the-shelf product with our logo slapped on it just doesn't seem right.
And I'm all about criticism - so what you like, what you don't like - I read it all and it goes into my head when I try to create the next products on my list. As long as you guys stay polite, I'm willing to hear that my product is exactly the opposite of what you want.
Again:
Availability - delayed, officially Q309, looking very promising.
Simultaneous availability in North America, Europe, and Asia.
Thanks for your info once again!Quote:
Originally Posted by Redbeard
The case looks great IMO. Obviously its looks won't suit tastes of every single person, but it seems like most people are positively impressed (yeah, me as well :yepp:).
Hope you can sort all backplate issues ASAP though, some people seem to be losing patience [and sanity] cause of waiting. :D
nice job on the caddies!
you guys really are going well above and beyond to make sure every aspect of this case has had a ridiculous amount of thought put into it.
can't wait to have it sitting on my desk :yepp:
Good news about native SSD mounting RedBeard! :D
While you are re-tooling, why not come up with an optical drive bay cover similar to what Lian Li uses? ...please!? ;)
And then a fanless top panel (maybe sold separately).
Great job so far!!
Well, for a start into the market you guys are going to come in with a bang. I saw this and now I'm holding off on by a TJ-07. That case has been done to death and I want something new and still great quality. The fact that you're going the extra mile to make sure it's all you want it to be before shipping and then just coming out with another model with the fixes is wonderful. I know I'll be getting on when it comes out for a build I've been holding off on. :up:
As far as the extra's: I would love to see drive covers and top panels but there are plenty of modders in the community that can do that too.
@Redbeard, the one you send out to someone should have a picture of your little lego pirate just under the corsair logo. Just so you know it's yours ;)
Yeah, and it increases price, too, while not many people are going to use this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bgriffs
Best case ever, congratz Corsair
if i promise to mod one with undercar lighting, decals, and a muffler tip, can i get one for free?
This case will be a big hit, its gotten alot of buzz already, i think ill be getting one, Corsair makes such good quality components.
I really like how the case is coming along; special kudos on the SSD friendly disc caddies. Is there any word on whether/when a non window version or replacement panel will be available? I would also second the optional lian-li style optical bezels but it doesn't sound like that will happen. Good work Corsair, I look forward to buying one once you decide to let me.
Thank you, THANK YOU for all your professional effort to bring to us the best product you can make now. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Redbeard
Q3 or not you got a Corsiar costumer here, waiting but feeling safe regarding your quality products. Keep pushing! :up:
I might have to try to find a use for this case in a nearish future, lol
@Redbeard.
I'd like to say that this case appears to be the least in need of modification out of the factory I have ever seen. Congratulations on helping bring this baby to market. Of course, I have one question.
The front and rear feet. How are they attached to the bottom/base of the case? From the picture below it appears as if the weight of the case is forcing an opening at the outer edge of each side. Any thoughts on this. The pic below was taken from the vid on the Corsair Support Forums.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...r/z800dffa.jpg
http://www.corsair.com/cinema/movie.aspx?id=992173
I'll check that on the production samples, thanks for the heads up. I don't think I've seen that before, but it doesn't hurt to check for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDeliverator
Good eye.
http://www.techzine.nl/uploaded/31617_260ae6cc.jpg
Hi ppl
I have an suggestion for the case
Those plates that cover the CD-Rom 5.25 bays, should be perforated to improve airflow, like you can see for example here on the TT Armor and also with the filters, to try to stop the dust coming in.
What do you think of this idea?
Regards :up:
nah it wont look as clean or sleek tbh
I also think it would look nicer. The way it is is just dull.
The design idea behind Corsair case is completely different, this would totally not fit it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LinkinParkBoy
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Originally Posted by Jamesrt2004
Well you might be right. In techincal terms it would be a lot better, due to the better airflow, but i agree, in terms of design it would be not so good.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Forget about it
With 3 spots for 120mm fans at the top of the case creating great airflow won't be an issue anyway it seems. :)
That TT case needs mesh front because that is where the airflow is coming from, the Corsair case intake is underneath, so it should be sealed as much as possible from the front or dust would get in.
Finally doing more than just taking a quick glance at some of the pictures this time, case looks great... good to hear it is heavy. When I went from steel to aluminum I noticed things like the power supply greatly changing the center of gravity of the case. If you want to take your computer places, get a small case!
I really want to get it, but know it will be expensive, and just bought my Rocketfish... either way, excellent job as always Corsair.
I'm also glad it's heavy. I'm looking for something durable and can take a beating. From what I've heard its going to be $300 or so. Right around what a tj07 is and I like the looks of this case better. Can't wait my hands on this and start up a build.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewZorn
:(
too much to wait i wanna change my case now :(
can i pm you my address redbeard maybe you can help me?
lol
Yeah, looks like they are not attached right. Hopefully they are not plastic or something....Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDeliverator
Here is another example:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...0dgallery2.jpg
The front panel is a little too long forcing the front feet to bend because there is not a flat surface for them to rest upon. Not sure why the back feet are a little crooked.
I would rather keep delaying this thing (if Corsair has the funds to do this) so it is done right. First impressions are everything and I am super excited that a company is actually taking feedback from their customers. Reminds me of MS and Windows 7. Very good business strategy IMHO. :)
First, the feet are aluminum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorlac
Second, the front panel doesn't touch them and make them crooked. In real life you can see that they are straight - in the images they look a bit crooked but that seems to be based on the angles in the pictures.
From what I can tell in person they seem to be fine.
This will definitely be my next case. I'm already planning out the WC loop.
Thanks alot redbeard for making me want to sell my TJ07...:ROTF: At this rate my next bulid looks like it is going to be very Corsaircentric.
Hahaha, that's the goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chickenfeed
Corsair will sell you a PC - just add a motherboard, CPU, and a Video Card.
In that case, when do the combo deals start? :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Redbeard
Also. So the apparent space in the video is just an anomaly?
Yeah the four pre-production samples I've looked at have a slight gap there, but when the side panel is on that gap disappears. They sit flush with the bottom of the case where they are mounted.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDeliverator
@Redbeard: YGPM.
so now we got:
1) best power supplies
2) best case
3) best cooler
4) best ssd
5) best ram
Corsair is takin over hide ur children
I'm glad I have none? Although for a free rig perhaps I'd fine one to give away? Would it have to be a firstborn? :ROTF::rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Baron_Davis
not sure I agree with you #4, Intel SSD is topsQuote:
Originally Posted by Baron_Davis
but #1 and #5 for sure
#3 I am still testing
#2 will see soon I hope
Corsair is a great company, they have managed to branch out and improve their customer service at the same time, most companies struggle to do 1 of those
Man, once the P64 comes out, it will be the best pound for pound SSD out there imo. The P128 is better than the X25-M from what I seen in reviews (overall speaking, the Intel SSD's still rock in certain synthetic benchmarks), and it's a lot bigger and about the same price.
The X25-E is the fastest still in certain areas (by FAR), but I dunno if it can be considered the overall best now.