You got me confused there. You ram is 1600MHz running at 1333, or opposite?
You got me confused there. You ram is 1600MHz running at 1333, or opposite?
yeah seems like i got 1600mhz ram running on 1333! strange as hell! never changed the values -.-
i wondered myself why everest and bios told me that it is 1333mhz!
But its kinda strange that the ram dont work properly when they are under the normal frequenzy!
I try to bring it to normal today and maybe my prob is fixed :) would be nice, but strange enough that the striker can't read the mhz correctly
You are wrong, striker II supports up to 2000MHz through clocking, if you are not clocking it can go up to 1333.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnemyWithin
Your problem, similar like mine. If you want to go fully stable you must run your ram at stock timings and frequencies and voltage and linked and synced with your CPU.
So CPU at 1600fsb linked and synced. Or alternatively try cpu and memory level, your goal is to keep them the same (1:2 ratio), select your actual ram speed, PC312800 that is then I think the CPU level should be the first or the second option.
If it still don work, u will need to go manual. In either way, increase a bit your voltages.
hiho,
just selected ram speed to PC3 12800. can start windows etc as normal.
Tried to boost the cpu lvl to QX9650 but then memory clock mode is unlinked and memory ratio is auto.
nearly all overclocking options at extreme tweaker are greyed out when i use memory lvl up so i cant set values like linked and synced manualy!
according to everest my DRM:FSB is now 12:5 dunno how stable that is!
also set ram timings to 7-7-6-18 2T. going to test the settings on stability now!
had a freez again.
So i tried to set values for mhz myself.
I made a screen from what cpu-z tells me now.
strange thing is my cpu overclocked about 20% to 3,4ghz dunno how long this is stable?! i dont want to do any damage but ratio etc seems to work on memory (2:1, 1600mhz) dunno if i set a value wrong and thats why cpu is overclocked that much?!
I give you my Voltage settings, which are automaticaly made by the striker:
VCore Voltage: 1,28-1,29V
CPU PLL Voltage: 1,50-1,52V
CPU VTT Voltage: 1,10-1,12V
Memory Voltage 1,79-1,82V
NB Core: 1,31-1,32V
SB Core: 1,47-1,48
DDR3 Termination Voltage: 0,89V
Values changed a bit while i wrote the values on a paper :)
Maybe something with the values is also wrong so i might better set them manualy!
Remember i dont want to push to maximum perfomance, just need to get it stable :)
Ok, if you want to clock more the cpu, I suggest you work with the multiplier. Work with the 8.5x, i mean.
Your only drawback for now is how hot the CPU gets, but you only clock 600 mhz so I guess it will be ok.
VCore Voltage: try to set it with loadline calibration enabled at 1.3(actual i mean)
set these values in bios(actual may be slightly different)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.2
Memory Voltage 1.82
NB Core: 1.38
SB Core: 1.55
cpu and NB gtl ref's should be the closest thing to -38
if you have any usb hard drives, you might want to unplug them because with bios 1104 they do cause freezes.
Guys, i found a glitch. No matter how much voltage you throw at the northbridge if you use usb storage it just randomly freezes. I get that when I am on stock too, so it is not because of overclocking, my guess it needs BIOS update.
Never had any kind of issues originating from USB storage ( Flash Disk Drives and USB 2.0 HDD Enclosure was working just fine ).Quote:
Originally Posted by Cibic
Some settings as you can see are displayed in red color, YOU NEED to SET those values EXACTLY like I have
[code]Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Antec Quattro 1000
CPU = Intel Q9400
RAM = 8 GB Kingston DDR3 1066MHz KVR1066D3N7/2G Non ECC
HDD = Seagate 500GB SATA x 2 Raid 0
VGA1 = GeForce 9800GT OC 512MB
VGA2 = GeForce 9800GT OC 512MB
VGA3 ( if you have ) =
SPU ( Sound Card ) = Supreme FX II
NorthBridge Cooling = Fusion Block
SouthBridge Cooling = Fusion block
CPU Cooling = Intel oem fan that came with CPU
RAM Cooling = None
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 15.23
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = Whatever was in the disc that came with the nobo
Sound Card Drivers Version = 6.10.0x.6320
BIOS version 1202
BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 7.5
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Auto
FSB - Memory Ratio = Auto
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1333
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = Auto
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled
Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Auto
P2 = Auto
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = Auto 7
tRCD = Auto 7
tRP = Auto 7
tRAS = Auto 20
Command Per Clock (CMD) = Auto 1T
tRRD = auto 4
tRC = Auto 27
tWR = Auto 10
tWTR = Auto 14
tFAW = Auto 21
tRD = Auto 9
tRTP = Auto 4
tRFC = Auto 59
tREF = Auto 7.8uS
Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = Auto
Loadline Calibration = Disabled
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto
CPU VTT Voltage = Auto
Memory Voltage = Auto
NB Core Voltage = Auto
SB Core Voltage = Auto
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto
CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Auto
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Enabled
Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
Virtualization Technology = Enabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Enabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled
Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Auto
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Auto
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Auto
I've had this board for a little over a week and everything works fine until I try to use media center, WinTV, video editing etc. and also try to surf the net. All is stable for about 30 minutes then it locks up and I have to do a hard reset, I love this board but at the same time I want to take a hammer to it. Can someone please help!
hey guys,
i think i solved my prob.
seems like my timings where set wrong.
i changed cpu clock to normal settings and just fixed the ram timings (set them higher to 9-9-9-22) and left the ram on 1333mhz (dram frequenzy at 667mhz and ratio 2:1) for now, to see if it works without any overclocking at all.
And yes finally it did yesterday like 5-6 hours without any freeze or lagg in 3 different games (including nfs undercover where i had mostly very fast freezes and hard laggs, but they were gone :cool: )
I can'T support the "problem" with the usb devices, i had freezes with usb devices pluged in and without, so in my opinion it doesnt matter!
Just install new drivers for chipset and the other stuff, worked out in my case!
You mean this could be on the disk controller(the usb)? I tried 3 external hdds of different brands and once I plug them in, I always get freezing and it gets worse if I'm transferring data to and from it. I did some intense torturing to my system, 24 hours primed blend and gpu caps viewer, the fur rendering and no freeze or bsod whatsoever. Once I connect the external hdd I get freezing in a matter of minutes. It seems I am not the only one with this issue, but other guys get it with e-sata too, mostly usb though. I was considering to update to beta bios as some1 seemed to resolve this problem, but I am not willing to take that risk, this board is unstable with stable bios. What you reccon BenchZowner ?
btw can anyone tell me why so many people got the 1202 bios?
i read it came out in the mid of 2007? dont think it supports so much new rams?
or whats so special at all on 1202?
i got 1104 and away from some freezes and laggs, i now have fixed, it works fine!
Bios 1202 fixes many black holes in the fsb i noticed before i could never do 1600fsb linked and synced had to always put it to 1601 or 1602 ,but with 1202 it works fine and seems u can lower your vcore to for overclocking compared to previous bios revs.
according to asus.com the newest version for a striker bios is version 1104 (released on 24.09.2008).
So is a 1202 bios newer because the version number is higher?
is it an inofficial release or a beta?
Just dont understand how an (i think) older bios can be better then the newest one directly from asus :)
I believe you're confusing the Striker Extreme with the Striker II Extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnemyWithin
We're talking about the Striker II Extreme, and 1202 is the newest BIOS available for this board.
And was released somewhere in mid November 2008.
1202 is the newest bios for striker extreme 2???Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
Asus site has the 1104 as the latest bios...
Where i can find the 1202?
I have some freezes when i turn on the e-sata disk.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
My system freeze for 3-4 sec and after resume normaly....Also many times , at reading the HDD , it makes little stops...
Do u have any idea why??
HereQuote:
Originally Posted by NEOKFIRE7
That's normal, Windows need to detect and initialize the HDD.Quote:
Originally Posted by NEOKFIRE7
It isn,t official?
Info for changes??
It is official.
The difference is that it's a Beta and not a "stable" release ( it means that it's not fully tested by Asus, so there might be a few bugs or issues, but it can also be perfectly fine ).
There's no change log available.
About the problem of Hdd that sometimes freeze??
For example if i listen a track and search for a file, it makes somes freezes..
Any suggestion?
Perhaps your controller turned the mode down to PIO Mode ?Quote:
Originally Posted by NEOKFIRE7
Go to your device manager, expand the IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers category, and check the properties of every Primary & Secondary channel, make sure that none of your HDDs are running in PIO Mode.
:clap:BenchZower :welcome: back, I have learned a lot from your contribution to this tread helping us get our boards stable. Your review was also helpful. I have studied all your input in this thread. If others would read your input and suggestions I am sure it should solve a lot of peoples problems. I do not think people realize the voltage range available and often needed on this nvidia board versus the intel chipsets. I now have two Striker Extreme II stable at 1800 FSB. Once I add another radiator to my water cooling after the holidays I may be tempted to trying upping the FSB again. Thanks again:up:
@deathspine:
i think your right when you say that reading can solve many problems but in some cases like mine it didnt help much, because noone had rams like mine (from mushkin) so its kinda hard when you mostly read about corsair or whatever ram and not much/never about your ram manufacturer :)
but in the end we all learn a lot and thats why i would like to thank all of you (especially benchzowner) for their passion on pcs and hardware and for their clues and hints on solving other people problems!:up:
Οκ thnks a lot for your quick post..Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
I will check it. I hope to find it.
I'm with you, lots of variables involved.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by EnemyWithin
hi and happy x-mas!
after nearly a week without mass freezes they finally came back yesterday.
I "played" a bit with the timings (set them even higher) and the fsb but couldnt stop freezes longterm.
Now the strangest thing at all:
yesterday my pc worked out well, no real probs except some freezes. Today i want to start windows and it takes like 10 mins till he gets on desktop, but without taskbar and all styles from windows look like win 98 oO.
Strangest thing is, that after 2-3 mins i get the message that my pc will shutdown in 60 seconds because a remote programm from windows closed itself!
So what the F***! seems like i get dataloss because my system wont run stable!? is that even possible? and how should i fix it (yeah i know format c: ) but i mean how can i prevent myself from getting that strange error again?
Hey guys just bought this board, glad there is a thread on it, im seeing alot of issues through this thread, how long has this board been out ? 6 months ? still issues. What is the overall feeling about this board ? I see asus has not updated the bios in 4 months, and will this board run a 4x2 2000 mgz ram kit ?, thanks for your information.
It's pretty sad that this mobo Isn't even stable out of the box, being that it was a gift I will keep it but it's time to get something better so I'm going to pick up an EVGA 790i SLI FTW Digital PWM tomorrow. Hopefully I'll have better luck with that one.
Im detecting alot of problems with this board, dam i just bought it and its on its way.
As long as the motherboard's name includes the word SLI and it's a LGA775 motherboard, you're just wasting your time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Apollyon
All these issues are sourcing from the nF790i chipset.
thanks to nvidia for the fu**ed up chip!
very well done!
bench you think there will come a bios in near future which is more stable?
or should we better get another mobo and throw the striker out of the window?:shrug:
Maybe I'm just dumb or blind but where do you get the bios file you are recommending I have looked on the asus site and I don't find it.
Thanx,
Crashaxe
A new BIOS for the nFORCE 790i motherboards ?Quote:
Originally Posted by EnemyWithin
Especially from Asus ? No way.
Most of the manufacturers do not even care about supporting the community with new BIOSes for old products, and the bogus nFORCE 790i boards are their Achille's heel.
I haven't received any BIOS update for the Striker II Extreme in ages...
As a gamer I would avoid SLI/CrossFire.
Several issues, minimal to none benefits.
A P45/X38/X48 board with a single fast graphics card is way better than the nFORCE headache and SLI/CrossFire Micro-Stuttering amazingly cr*ppy gaming experience.
1 or 2 pages back depending on your forum preferences.Quote:
Originally Posted by crashaxe
Here's a link to the latest BIOS version for the Asus Striker II Extreme
That's good to know, I guess that I'll just move away from the SLI/Crossfire platform because there are too many headaches to deal with and the nFORCE chip is a joke! BenchZowner, thanks for the help and honest input on this POS mobo. Striker II Extreme? More like STRESS II EXTREME! THANKS FOR THE PAPERWEIGHT ASUS.
Im getting mixed reviews on this board, some say its great, some say it sucks, what is the main problem with this board ?
Read onQuote:
Originally Posted by neo mike
All these pages filled with users issues ( some solved, most unsolved ) :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by neo mike
Anybody contacted asus with these issues ?
I used to.Quote:
Originally Posted by neo mike
Letting them know about the issues is something, making them work things out is another.
I've been asked to delay the release of my review of the Striker II Extreme back then when it was launched, they needed a few days to iron the reported issues out... but I didn't, I released the review anyways.
Was it a bad choice ? Not at all, the issues that I reported back to them are still there, and it's been 8 months already :D
As long as the hype is good, and the sales are ok, they may support the product a bit, never gone over the fence, but still work it out a bit.
After a while the product doesn't really matter to them and the support with newer BIOSes and such stops.
If only they'd listen to the reviewers/beta testers & buyers we wouldn't be here in this god damn multi-page thread of issues.
They didn't even bother to get their customer technical support department cleared up from those morons after our report.
Heck they didn't even payed any attention to the hundreds of messages from buyers from all around the world regarding their amazingly slow web server and the super duper low speed transfers from their site & FTP.
Downloading a 1MB BIOS image at 5kb/s... jeez.
Thanks bench for the insight, i bought this board for a really good deal off ebay and its unopened,all the reviews i read on anadtech etc, said the board just rocks, so im surprised to see all the crap about this board, now im not feeling good about the board i have coming. I think people have reported all these issues, and there hasnt been a bios update since august, asus just dont care, they have made there money, and probally dont want to deal with all these issues. I think that is just sick on there part, but i think most board makers are probally just like asus. I heard foxconn and gigabyte decided to not even make a board with this 790i chipset. I really dont care about the sli part, i want it for overclocking, and it has great memory bandwidth performance, so i dont know what to do. I was going to get a p5e3 preminum, but went with this board, seems like the p5e3 has all the issues worked out, guess i will try it when it arrives, and see how it, if its bad i will dump it.
This board is just crazy!
was on a lan the last 2 days, so the pc worked like 40 hours nonstop with tons of games and multiplayer etc etc.!
I had 3 freezes: 1 watching a movie to chill out and 2 playing nfs undercover!
Fact is, that this board just fu**s me up whenever it wants. Just can't say,"well i do play 3 hours now in 10 mins it will freeze" !NO it just wents down sudenly!
I read tons of reviews to find a speedy board which is stable and most of the reviews told me so but in then end i should have read benchz review first :)
Benchz maybe you got a hint for someone like me who would like to buy a new board ?! Is it better to w8 for good/cheap core i7 boards or shall i buy a socket 775 board in the meantime?
Btw, i don't think my system setup will be stable anyday, i tried so much timings on ram, overclocked (with memory lvl up) ram and cpu, set synched and linked and in the end for nothing oO
I even think about to never buy asus boards again!
"a premium board for overclockers" :ROTF:
I feel for you, i just bought this board off ebay, and its unopened, dont know if i want to even try to set it up. But i have talked to people on this forum outside this thread that have this board, and have no issues at all, they claim there 100% stable, so i may set mine up, and give it a try, i dont plan on running sli, i only want a single video card, so i hope that will rid me of most problems. There is a guy on this forum by the name of ket, who makes and tweaks bios, im wondering if he could fix some of these problems.
I would like all your striker 2 extreme guys, tell me what the main issues are on this board that need fixing, THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS, i may have a guy who makes and tweaks bios, he may be able to address these problems, depending on what they are, i need to know, so i can reley the information to him.
My main issues:
1. data corruption
2. freezes
3. sometimes windows crashes on startup (somekinda freeze when the load screen appears)
Most Problems seem to come from incorrect voltages/timings which, in my case, are hard to fix (set ram timings higher and lower, overclocked ram to 1600mhz, set ram to 1333mhz) only thing i need to try now is fix the voltages but atm i got no real clue how to set them oO!
I am now on standard bios settings just some parts disabled which are not really necessary for the problem!
I will post my settings today or tomorrow and hopefully we all can do something :D
The settings i got now seem to be at least a bit stable :D so i think it is good to take this as a start point!
Let's keep things ON-TOPIC please.Quote:
Originally Posted by neo mike
Off-topic, don't raise any hopes.
nVIDIA is being secretive about their chipset's data and there's very limited technical info, and to be bloody honest, there is no chance of getting it fixed by simply injecting stuff, etc.
This thread is about troubleshooting configuration issues that lead to data corruption/instability/freezes.
If you want to talk about other stuff, the New Thread button is only one click away.
hi guys,
i may figured out what causes the laggs.
I set my commandrate from 2T to 1T and laggs are gone mostly.
I had commandrate on 2T and it lagged so hard in all games i tried.
Dunno maybe someone has made the same experience? maybe the striker is a bit strange when commandrate is 2T, dunno for sure.
I inserted my current settings, maybe one of you sees something to improve!
Required System Specifications
PSU = be quiet! Dark power pro bqt p7-650w
CPU = Intel Core 2 quad 9550 c1 stepping
RAM = 2GB Mushkin 996600 DDR3-1600
HDD = Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500gb
VGA1 = Zotac Geforce GTX 280 AMP! Edition
SPU ( Sound Card ) = Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro Series
NorthBridge Cooling = standard striker II extreme cooling
SouthBridge Cooling = standard striker II extreme cooling
CPU Cooling = ThermalRight HR-01 PLUS
RAM Cooling = standard Mushkin cooler
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = nVIDIA nFORCE Drivers v.15.23
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = nVIDIA ForceWare v. 180.48
Sound Card Drivers Version = Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Drivers 2.18.0008
Mainboard Bios = v.1104
BIOS Settings
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner =manual
CPU Multiplier = 8,5
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Synched
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333.3
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1333.3
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = auto
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled
Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Enabled
P2 = Enabled
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 9
tRCD = 9
tRP = 9
tRAS = 25
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 1T
tRRD = 4
tRC = 33
tWR = 12
tWTR = 16
tFAW = 21
tRD = 11
tRTP = 5
tRFC = 74
tREF = 7.8us
Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = auto (value set by mb: 1.31V)
Loadline Calibration = enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = auto (value set by mb: 1.50V-1.52V)
CPU VTT Voltage = auto (value set by mb: 1.10V)
Memory Voltage = auto ((value set by mb: DIMM 1.63 - 1.65V DIMM VTT 0.80 - 0.82V )
NB Core Voltage = auto (value set by mb: 1.31V)
SB Core Voltage = auto ((value set by mb: 1.47V-1.49V )
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = auto
CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = auto
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Disabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled
Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled
[QUOTE=EnemyWithin;3542348]hi guys,
i may figured out what causes the laggs.
I set my commandrate from 2T to 1T and laggs are gone mostly.
I had commandrate on 2T and it lagged so hard in all games i tried.
Dunno maybe someone has made the same experience? maybe the striker is a bit strange when commandrate is 2T, dunno for sure.
I inserted my current settings, maybe one of you sees something to improve!
How much ram do you have:shrug:? I have 4G and was thinking anything above 2G would most likely not be stable on 1T.
Thanks
i got 2gb!
Could be in your case EnemyWithin, but doubtful if you want my honest opinion.
Especially when it comes to using only 2 DIMMs.
I never had a single problem sourcing from the Command Rate setting, and I've been running 1T CR up to DDR3-2100.
hmm, so you maybe figured out by now what causes the laggs? @ benchz?
Yeah i already noticed myself that laggs still occure even when i got 1t commandrate :ROTF:
Never had any lags.
hm,
strange! so it doesnt matter if i choose 1t or 2t?! oO
Hey guys/BenchZowner,
having issues with a build here. I've had a few of these mobos before and never had any trouble getting them stable, but this one is really getting on my nerves.
I get funny red/blue fragscreens and freezes while trying to install Vista64. HDDs are Mtron Mobis (3500 series I think) on a Highpoint 3510, so we can rule out crappy NV southbridge as a source.
Ram is 8GB CSX 1600 CAS9 (Samsung ICs), rated 9-9-9-24 at 1,8V which passed memtest fine (running FSB 400 linked 1:1, CPU is a QX9650 running 400x9 - CPU not new, CPU OC is known to be stable). With auto MCH (~1,31V) I get a red screen immediately when Vista starts expanding, when setting MCH manually to ~1,45V it holds until 5-10% then gives a blue frag screen (no BSOD). Setting ram down to 1333Mhz didn't help either so I removed 4GB, loaded bios defaults and now it seems it went through (will be finished in 5 minutes or so).
So what do you guys recon I could try? Timings are already loose at CAS9, I set 2T ofc, latest bios 1104 flashed. TRFC already at 88 on auto which shoulkd be more than high enough even for 8GB... oh yeah, it is not a mem incompatibility as I have used that mem on the mobo before (even in 8GB config)
Thanks in advance
Edit: Lol.. it finished, rebooted, and now says boot disk failure - omg what is wrong with this mobo...
Hi at all!
i finally got my pc stable!
I just set my memory to 1600mhz without "linked" and "synched" and memory voltage on auto! (value set bei mobo:1,81-1,82V)
Timings: 7-7-8-25 2T
Now i get only freezes when i set memory voltage myself.
I set it to 1.82V and 1.84V (mushkin says that it should be stable on 1,85V)
but so far its not stable with both values!
Even at 1.82V set in bios everest says memory voltage is at 1,86-1,87V kinda strange!
Glad to hear we have another stable Striker II Extreme :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by EnemyWithin
Ya, and I fixed it my build here as well.. turned out the CPU wanted totally different values on the 790i than anywhere else, lol.
Had to use 1,55V MCH though for FSB 1700/DDR3-1600 with 8GB (FSB 1600/1600 didn't even post lol... still FSB hole/divider problems I guess)
:up: Still stable at 4GHz, will be adding a 280 GTX next weekend with the prices dropping. I suspect with the board I will be good for another year. Will add the next generation video card(s) when it arrives in six months or so. I enjoy this board. For gaming video cards are the key and will just wait until my CPU becomes the weak link before considering an upgrade.
Actually I was just rambling to keep this thread alive.
What's up :shrug:, is every body running smoothly now?
Im running butter smooth, and finally got my nb, sb cooled way down.
@Deathspine: Im so far stable here, but im going to test some new settings the next days (some better timings at first) :p:
I changed some settings last time, no settings on memory or cpu, just some unimportant things (floppy off, changed boot device priority etc) and i wondered myself as it freezed again Oo
But thanks to myself i saved my stable bios profile before :)
From now on i write down every change i make, maybe someday we can set up a complete list of possible setting failures!
greetz EnemyWithin
:cool::cool: I am thinking a little crazy, I just got another 4G of memory for this machine. This week I plan to start testing Anandtech reviews of how stable this machine was with 8G memory running at 2000MHz. I will be happy at 1800MHz my current setting.
Also purchased another 280 GTX which should be here for a weekend update.:up:
Hey all I am back with my freezeing issues. I am wondering if i need to adjust my CPU voltages and the GTL reference tweaks. Has anyone had a non OCed stock QX9650 with repear 1333 ram working stable? I am useing Medeval total war as a test(it seems to freeze quite redily when there are voltage issues. i have had it run 2.5hours at the most with some other corisair ram, but each of my OCZ alone 2GB chip or together in dual channel cuase freezes hafter 1hr.) Any help would be wonderful. If i need to OC to get a stable system i will i just have no idea what the limits of the chip are. Thanks all!
Originally Posted by Mathieas
Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Zalman ZM1000-HP
CPU =Intel Extreme Core Duo QX9650
RAM =OCZ Reaper 1333mhz 2X 2Gig 6-5-5-20
HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) = Raid 0 2X WDAKKS750 SATA(or somthing similar)
VGA1 = BFG Geforce 280GTX OC2
VGA2 ( if you have ) = BFG Geforce 280GTX OC2
VGA3 ( if you have ) =
SPU ( Sound Card ) = Sound Blaster X-Fi Faility ed PCI-E
NorthBridge Cooling = Stock fustion block with Big water 760i Liquid cooling
SouthBridge Cooling =Stock
CPU Cooling =Intel retail stock
RAM Cooling = Reaper Ram heat spreaders
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 9.64
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version =181.20 Sound Card Drivers Version = Latest
BIOS version 0801 REQUIRED--- i am using 1205 beta
BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 9X
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Synch Mode
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1333
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200.0
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled
Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Auto
P2 = Auto
tCL ( CAS Latency ) =
tRCD =7
tRP =7
tRAS =22
Command Per Clock (CMD) =2T
tRRD = 5
tRC = 29
tWR =12
tWTR =25
tFAW =29
tRD =8
tRTP =8
tRFC =74
tREF = Auto
Over Voltage- setting on the left, hareware volt reading on the left
CPU Voltage = Auto - Auto
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto
CPU VTT Voltage = Auto - 1.10V
Memory Voltage = 1.8
NB Core Voltage = 1.44V
SB Core Voltage = 1.55V
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio =Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio =Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio =Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio =Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio =Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt =Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt =Auto
CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit =Disabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
CPU Core 4 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled
[code]Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = TT Toughpower 1200
CPU = QX9450
RAM = G.Skill 2x2GB DDR3 PC3-12800
HDD Veliciraptor 300GB =
VGA1 = Leadtek 9800gx2
VGA2 ( if you have ) =
VGA3 ( if you have ) =
SPU ( Sound Card ) = asus supreme sfx II thingy that came with the board
NorthBridge Cooling = stock
SouthBridge Cooling = stock
CPU Cooling = arctic freezer pro
RAM Cooling = corsair dominator
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = Newest on ASUS Site 9.46
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 181.20
Sound Card Drivers Version = soundmax 5.10.01
BIOS version 0801 REQUIRED 1104
BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 8
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Auto
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1600
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1600
LDT Frequency = x5
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = Auto
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled
Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Auto
P2 = Auto
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 9
tRCD = 9
tRP = 9
tRAS = 28
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
tRRD = AUTO 5
tRC = AUTO 40
tWR = AUTO 12
tWTR = AUTO 18
tFAW = AUTO 25
tRD = AUTO 11
tRTP = AUTO 6
tRFC = AUTO 88
tREF = AUTO 7.8us
Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = 1.3000 Actual 1.340
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.58 Actual 1.61
CPU VTT Voltage = 1.18 Actual 1.21
Memory Voltage = 1.82 Actual 1.88
NB Core Voltage = 1.44 Actual 1.45
SB Core Voltage = 1.55 Actual 1.55
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio =Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio =Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio =Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio =Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt =Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt =Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt =Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt =Auto
CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Disabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
CPU Core 4 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PC Works fine mostly but playing games causes random freezes where pc locks up and needs reset or sometime a full power down due to the dreaded codeinit. Also yeaterday after a smooth game of COD4 i quit normally and it BSOD on me. COD4 seems to be the real test!!
Any advice is welcome
I have started increaseing the NB GTL Reference as well as my CPU voltage(i know i know two varibles does not allow me to lock in the true cuase in stability changes but I will hash that out after i get a fully stable system)_. This increased my medeveal II total war running time (leaveing it run on the generals speech and setup from a quick battle ) from 1hr to 2hr 20min at +10mv and i plan to test +20mv this evening. My feeling is that this NB GTL reference may be the soultion to the Reaper ram issue. I am currently at 7-7-7-18 2T timing at 1.84v.
PS: Med II is the only game i have found to really push the issues cuasesing freezes on these MBs. Crysis will run hours befor freezeing,WoW hours till a freeze(sometimes 6-10hrs), Prime 95 8-10hrs no issues and memtest no errors. Med II on the other hand will run mere minutes with the exzact same freeze charcaterisitics(the hard crash with repeating sounds). After i started making changes to the NBv,Ramv,CPUv,NB GTL Ref I have increased the freeze time from 3mins to 2hr 30mins. I recommend that if you are haveing stability issue strying DLing the demo(granted i am using a fully updated reatail copy so the demo is untested for sensitivity) to this game and give it a shot.
OK all new update. Finally got my system stable! After 4 months! It was the stupid GTL NB Ref voltage.. +10mv for me and a reduced NBv of 1.44 and a mem voltage of 1.86. I was priming for 11hours and medieval total war for 10hrs (last record was only 2.5hrs). I dont know is this was particular for my MB or for everyone with 1202 and 1333 reaper memory@7-7-7-18(rest auto) cept tRFC 110(this could prolly come down). This is simply the first setup that gave me a stable run.. a few more weeks of testing will get everything locked down to their lowest tightest voltages/timings. I intend to leave well enough alone for now. Let me know if this fixes issues for anyone else.
Mathieas
:) Great news, I am glad you have found the stable point for your system. This is a difficult motherboard to get stable. As you found out it takes a lot of patience. It took me over a week to get stable at stock settings and another month or more to reach a decent overclock. Once you get the hang of it you will found it easier to find that stable point as you attempt to overclock the board.:up::up: Hope you enjoy the board now:clap:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathieas
Thank you Deathspine. I was been following your progress from sometime now. After reading over your post I tried to emulate your settings while makeing some minior changes. It is thanks to you that i was able to get this far. Thank you!!!
Mathieas
i think i have found some of my problems, for my ram it says cas 9 for 666 and cas 10 for 740 so maybe this explain why using cas 9 right now at 1333 linked with cpu its fine. I copied this from pc wizard:
Supported Frequencies : 444 MHz, 518 MHz, 592 MHz, 666 MHz, 740 MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) : 6 clocks @444 MHz, 7 clocks @518 MHz, 8 clocks @592 MHz, 9 clocks @666 MHz, 10 clocks @740 MHz
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 6 clocks @444 MHz, 7 clocks @518 MHz, 8 clocks @592 MHz, 9 clocks @666 MHz, 10 clocks @740 MHz
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 6 clocks @444 MHz, 7 clocks @518 MHz, 8 clocks @592 MHz, 9 clocks @666 MHz, 10 clocks @740 MHz
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 16 clocks @444 MHz, 19 clocks @518 MHz, 22 clocks @592 MHz, 24 clocks @666 MHz, 27 clocks @740 MHz
Min TRC : 22 clocks @444 MHz, 26 clocks @518 MHz, 30 clocks @592 MHz, 33 clocks @666 MHz, 37 clocks @740 MHz
does this mean the mem should run at 1480mhz set to 10 10 10 27 for optimal performance?
i also dropped the mem volt and its showing 1.84/5 and put the cpu to auto but upped the lowest of the 3 to deliver 1.14 instead of 1.13 on auto. these rates are taken from the hardware monitor in bios after reboot. the cpu on auto shows 1.29 and is very cool and stable but its at standard 1333 linked with ram
also the clock command on ram was blue screening on 1t so manually put to 2t
oh yeah i did up the NBGTL thing to +10 as you did and i dont think it hurt lol
sorry for noob questions
MajorFU
Have you tried the new beta bios? I had issues getting it to work at first. Once i did though it started me down the path of stable. Here is what i did to get it installed.
1)DL the file and place it on a USB jumpdrive
2)reboot and load bios.
3)Save your bios profile position 1 or 2
4)save and exit bios and power down computer.
5)Clear the bios, Put the MB into clear bios mode (switch on bottum left hand side of MB looking at it from the top) then bios press the clear bios button on the back of the MB(near the network card output on the BACK of the MB)
6)reboot and enter bios
7)Flash the bios using the utility in bios.
8)load profile 1
9)reboot and reload bios and check your settings
10)Test full boot.
As for your timming issues i am not sure about that ram. I would use whatever links/syncs with your CPU first. If we can get it stable there then try to do a little OCing(if you want, i personaly dont do this). I will need to do some research to see what you have. Befor i do that though, have you ran memtest,prime 95, intel Burn Test (this was the frist program that let me see memoery issues wihtin mins and not hours, get it from guru3d.com) also try OCCT and medevial total war 2 demo (i kid you not running a quick battle and just letting it sit there is the best test i have found for this MB, dont click deploy or anything just let the general talk and let the program run.) If Intel Burn test fails you have a gross voltage/timming issue most likely. Once fixed there is a good chance Med 2 will still fail. i was using 1.54v on the NB water cooled and this too cuased issues. It was not untill i hit 1.44v that i had what seems like 100% stability.(turth be told i have alot of work ahead of me to get everything finalized, but once you have the starting point the rest is easy.) I will keep checkiung back here once a day to see your progress and we can work through getting this working. Wrost case you may need to spend 70$ at frys for some QVL RAM from corsair, but lets fiddle with what you got first.
Forgive my typoes i put this together real quick at work lol.
Mathieas
well first of all i have ditched latest nvidia drivers and physix as i think this is one of the problems
i have gone back to the mfr suported version
i test from there, pc is on auto so its 1333 linked and the ram is 9-9-9-24, some volts are boosted like cpu vtt, nb and ram but at sensible levels
not sure about this new bios will fix my problems
will post over the weekend as i test game play and tweak further
oh yer i also have a spare 2 x 1 gb ocz platinum which worked well, also should i try my current ram in the white slots?
Is your ram rated for 1333 speed ? what is the top speed your ram will do ? cause running 1333 at cas 9 is a joke. Your running way to much mcp voltage, 200. is to much, you shouldnt run your cpu on auto voltage , the bios over volts.
I am having an unexpected problem. :shrug: My second 280 GTX arrived today (as we all know they are on sale). I do not seem to be able to get the second video card recognized by Vista (device manager), Nvidia control panel etc. I have checked the connections i.e. power & SLI connectors and so far am having no luck. It is getting late and I was hoping to avoid major time consuming changes. I have run two 8800 GTX on SLI on this motherboard without ever having a problem. Anything different with the 280 GTX?
I suspect I may have to ensure the new card is good and run it by itself. I attempted to do just that on my test rig an Abit 680i motherboard only to find out the 280 GTX will not fit in the first PCI-E slot.
Anyone with a few trouble shooting tips for SLI with 280 GTXs? :shrug:
i posted my ram ratings above:Quote:
Originally Posted by neo mike
Supported Frequencies : 444 MHz, 518 MHz, 592 MHz, 666 MHz, 740 MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) : 6 clocks @444 MHz, 7 clocks @518 MHz, 8 clocks @592 MHz, 9 clocks @666 MHz, 10 clocks @740 MHz
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 6 clocks @444 MHz, 7 clocks @518 MHz, 8 clocks @592 MHz, 9 clocks @666 MHz, 10 clocks @740 MHz
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 6 clocks @444 MHz, 7 clocks @518 MHz, 8 clocks @592 MHz, 9 clocks @666 MHz, 10 clocks @740 MHz
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 16 clocks @444 MHz, 19 clocks @518 MHz, 22 clocks @592 MHz, 24 clocks @666 MHz, 27 clocks @740 MHz
Min TRC : 22 clocks @444 MHz, 26 clocks @518 MHz, 30 clocks @592 MHz, 33 clocks @666 MHz, 37 clocks @740 MHz
the cpu volt is now around 1.30 in the hardware monitor on auto and this seems fine when the cpu can handle up to 1.37 before degradation, ram is set to give 1.85 in the monitor
out today but will test tonight and see if the driver change made a difference
Deathspine,
I dont know if this will help at all but I too had issues getting my 280GTX to run in SLI. THey were both installed and windows did see them but my PSU(even a 1200W thermaltake PSU or OCZ 1000W) did not have enough A on its 12v rail. In the of the OCZ it was not insufficent amps that killed it but instead the cards spiked too many amps which cuased the PSU to go into safe mode and shut down. I am now using a Zalman with 6 seperate rails. If your PSU is not at least 1000W with muti 12v rails you will most likely find an issue there. Also, the GTX is fussy abotu which rials you install them to, try doing cross rail install, IE lets say you have Rail 1 and 2 each with a 8pin and 6pin connection, place rail 1's 8ping and rail 2's 6pin into one card and flip that for the other. As for not seeing the card, can you install your working card to the same slot and turn it on?(the card you know is working installed only). How about the new card in the slot that is working?(single card again). If both of these circumstances work your MB slot is good and your vid card is good, and we need to dig a bit deeper.
Mathieas
Major,
I suggest using that OCZ plat ram. A guy on the OCZ forums has put a ton fo time into getting a stable setup with those models. http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...triker+Perfect
That link may give you some other options to try. You may also need the GTL NB ref +10mv but i do know.
Good luck,
Mathieas
Never seen a motherboard plagued with so many problems:shrug:
im getting kind of angry these days.
Just installed mirrors edge yesterday and used cpu-control to set all 4 cores on mirrors edge (also tried it with 3 cores) and suddenly i got a freeze....
rebooted, started game again -> same after 3 mins!
Just dont get it..... this settings where stable for like 1 1/2 weeks and all of a sudden it gets unstable :shrug:
This mobo just makes me crazy!
I asked myself if the Jmicron controller is necessary? i can remember i got my windows running with jmicron disabled! I got just one hard disc in my pc so i dunno if the jmicron is at least a bit useful :) maybe someone can teach me -.-
:) Thanks for the input. I have solved my problem. The morale of my story is you should not install new hardware after coming home from a Friday night out with a couple of drinks. My card was not seeded fully. This morning I checked my work and re-seeded the card and got "SLI". Thanks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathieas
Now it's time to run a few benchmarks. Then later this weekend I will add a radiator to my loop, put waterblocks on the video cards and enjoy :up::up:
well i have been playing for about 5 hours and minimized many times (which caused many probs) and its been fine using the driver on the leadtek site for my card so i guess i can start dropping volts now and i'll just leave it standard on the 1333 linked as this is fast enough.
will play more and come back with more feed back soon but as far as changing back to the ocz goes, the dude who gave me this ram said its better with the s2e than the ocz.
I have a friend with a skulltrail and 3 x gtx280 and he complain about bsod with latest official nvidia sh1t, non beta too
anyway after tonite i will sync it up to 1600 and see what happens
took a dump from cpuid and here is this interesting info on the memory especially the XMP Profile?
General
Memory type DDR3
Module format UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) G.Skill (7F7F7F7FCD000000)
Size 2048 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3-10700H (667 MHz)
Part number F3-12800CL7-2GBHZ
Attributes
Number of banks 8
Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts
EPP no
XMP yes
Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 444 519 593 667 741
CAS# 6.0 7.0 8.0 9.0 10.0
RAS# to CAS# delay 6 8 9 10 11
RAS# Precharge 6 8 9 10 11
TRAS 16 19 22 25 27
TRC 22 26 30 34 37
XMP revision 1.0
XMP profile XMP-1600
Specification PC3-12800
Voltage level 1.900 Volts
Min Cycle time 1.250 ns (800 MHz)
Min tRP 8.75 ns
Min tRCD 8.75 ns
Min tWR 12.50 ns
Min tRAS 22.50 ns
Min tRC 37.50 ns
Min tRFC 75.00 ns
Min tRTP 7.50 ns
Min tRRD 7.50 ns
Command Rate 2T
Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 800
CAS# 7.0
RAS# to CAS# delay 7
RAS# Precharge 7
TRAS 18
TRC 30
well using nvidia driver 175.16 my system is now stable, all at auto bar ram and nb volts now. the ram is in the xmp settings above, yes 7-7-7-18 and not a single problem. will be dropping the nb vlts back to auto soon and then strat to lower the ram to find the lowest stable volts.
not sure about the driver, guess maybe i'll try newer drivers again but leave physix off?
Required System Specifications
PSU = Cooler Master Real Power Pro 1000W
CPU = Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775
RAM = Patriot Viper 4GB DDR3 1600 PVS34G1600LLKN (2 Sets = 8GB total)
HDD = Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB Sata
VGA1 = XFX PVT98UZHDU GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0
SPU = SupremeFX II (Came with the mobo)
NorthBridge Cooling = Stock
SouthBridge Cooling = Stock
CPU Cooling = ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm (Air)
RAM Cooling = Stock
Case = Cooler Master Stacker 830 Evolution (Air Cooled 8 120mm Case Fans)
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 15.23
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 181.20
Sound Card Drivers Version = SoundMAX AD1988B V6.10.02.6320
BIOS version 1104
BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 8.5
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Sync Mode
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1600
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1600
LDT Frequency = 5X
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = Auto
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled
Memory Timing Setting
(This Memory is Rated for 7-7-7-20 at 2v)
P1 = Auto
P2 = Auto
tCL = 9
tRCD = 9
tRP = 9
tRAS = 26
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
tRRD = Auto (6)
tRC = Auto (41)
tWR = Auto (12)
tWTR = Auto (18)
tFAW = Auto (31)
tRD = Auto (11)
tRTP = Auto (6)
tRFC = Auto (88)
tREF = Auto (7.8uS)
Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = Auto (1.32)
Loadline Calibration = Disabled
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto (1.52)
CPU VTT Voltage = Auto (1.23)
Memory Voltage = 1.9 (1.96)
NB Core Voltage = 1.4 (1.44)
SB Core Voltage = Auto (1.50)
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto
CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Auto
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
CPU C State Capability = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled
Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled
Problem Description
Stable, Although I know I can get this PC running better by tighting the memory timings. I think they are alot more loose than they need to be, but it took me what felt like forever to get this thing stable. I went with crazy loose timings to see if it would work, It did, got through 10 memtest86+ passes with no errors and 20 Intel Burn Test runs with no errors so I left it as is for the meantime so I could finally use it. Would like some advice at tightening the timings and not screwing up my system and making it unstable again or causing data corruption, because it would be a real pain in the but to reformat again. hah :-P
why not try what i did, use cpuz/cpuid and dump info to text as it might give you the mfrs timings like mine did
i'll be posting my final settings in a few days for standard clocking as i'm still looking for the lowest stable ram volts, down to 1.82 and reckon it will end up on 1.76 or 1.78 but as things stand my system is stable and I am very happee :)
well I know the manufacturer's Settings its 7-7-7-20 at 2v like stated in the post before the part where I showed what I actually have the memory timings set at for the time being... but I do have 8GB (2 Sets of the same Ram) So I know I probably won't get all 4 sticks running at 7-7-7-20, but I'm more than sure I can probably have the system stable at better timings then 9-9-9-26. I just would hate to have to reformat due to data corruption.
There's no reason to fiddle with the memory timings and waste hours on getting the system stable for a... change that will be reflected only in the BIOS.
There's nothing to be gained from tightening ( enhancing ) your memory timings.
Unless you're using the S2E as a ( high load ) web server / db / etc...
alrighty, figured I would ask anywho
Hit there!
Now my account is validated I can finally post it (this is the same message that I've sent You, Bench):
These are my system spicfications. I didn't have the same setup that You have, so first I though I send what setup I have, before I start changing it. However if You say first I have to change some settings, just say what, and how. I even downloaded the bios version You've uploaded onto the site, however I didn't know what would it change so I left that as it was. (Of course if you say that I should update the bios first, please tell me what to do with the bin file.).
It's great to know there are people who care about these problems. :)
I hope You could help me with this. Not because of the games, but because it pises me of, when after hours of rendering I have to start the process over, because of a freeze. And due to the motherboard cost so much to get, I don't want to replace it.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Dan7e
[code]Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Chieftec CFT-750-14CS
CPU = Intel Pentium III Xeon, 3000 MHz (7 x 429) -> Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E8400
RAM = 2 x 2048 MB Dual Channel DDR3 1333MHz KingMax
HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) = SAMSUNG HD252KJ SCSI Disk Device (232 GB)
VGA1 = Bliss NVIDIA GEForce 8800GT PCX 512MB TV DUAL DVI
VGA2 ( if you have ) = -
VGA3 ( if you have ) = -
SPU ( Sound Card ) = SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
NorthBridge Cooling = Stock
SouthBridge Cooling = Stock
CPU Cooling = Stock given to the CPU
RAM Cooling = -
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 5.1.2600
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = Omega 2.169.21
Sound Card Drivers Version = 5.10.1.6310
[b][color=red]BIOS version = 0402
BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 9.0
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Auto
FSB - Memory Ratio = Auto
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333 Actual = 1333.3
MEM (DDR) MHz = Auto Actual = 1333.3
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = Auto
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled
Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Didn't have this option
P2 = Didn't have this option
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = Auto -> Current = 9
tRCD = Auto -> Current = 9
tRP = Auto -> Current = 9
tRAS = Auto -> Current = 24
Command Per Clock (CMD) = Auto -> Current = 1T
tRRD = Auto -> Current = 4
tRC = Auto -> Current = 33
tWR = Auto -> Current = 12
tWTR = Auto -> Current = 16
tFAW = Auto -> Current = 21
tRD = Auto -> Current = 7.8uS
tRTP = Didn't have this option.
tRFC = Didn't have this option.
tREF = Didn't have this option.
Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = Auto
[color=red]Loadline Calibration = Disabled
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto
CPU VTT Voltage = Auto
Memory Voltage = Auto
NB Core Voltage = Auto
SB Core Voltage = Auto
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto
CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Auto
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
[color=red]Virtualization Technology = Enabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = - Disabled
CPU Core 4 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = - Disabled
Spread Spectrum Control
[color=red]CPU Spread Spectrum = Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Auto
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Auto
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Auto
Problem Description
After about 1 and a half hour, when playing games, converting videos or rendering 3d models the pc freezes and need to reboot, a few times just simply reboots.
Well first thing you need to do is update your bios, you have 402, your way behind in bios, go to asus website and download 1104 bios, that alone will fix many of your problems. Then come back and i can help you with your settings, alot of your settings are way off whack, go get the 1104 bios first thing. What processor are you running, the xeon ? or the e8400 ?.
Thanks for the tip, but I'm having problem with finding a matching version of bios update.
I don't have internet connected to my computer, so I have to download a file, and update it from that file. And I tryied a couple of version of 1104 bios for asus striker extreme, but none proved to be matching version. At least that's what the Asus Updater said. Can You send me a link of a site where I can download a fine version or even better, can You send me a file. Sorry for the troubles. :S
Oh, I'm runing the E8400, by the way.
Oh, forgot!
I found a 1202 bios version. Shall I use this instead of 1104 or it has something faulty that makes 1104 better?
i belive the asus site tells you to use awdflash for 1104, maybe you can use the ezflash tool in bios but awdflash is best for bios, you need a dos boot disk
I see, but isn' there a way to update without a dos boot disk? I checked this awdflash, however, I don't have a floppy disk drive. Can it be done with a boot cd/dvd? And of course with a newer bios? I even found a 1601(s2f1601) version. Isn't this suppose to be better? Sorry for making it more difficult, I just want to make sure I won't screw this. And why the asus supported Asus Update won't be fine?(and why it says to every 1104 version bios I've found that it has a wrong version?)
i believe it is possible to download a cd dos boot disc image and simply put awdflash and the bios file on a usb stick
from what I have been told its the safest way to update the bios, i personally have always had a floppy for bios updates, the drives and cable cost very little and on my case the floppy sits in the drivebay next to the power button so fits right in
Well it seems I managed to update it. I only needed a fresher version of the asus update program. Now it updated flawlessly, and I didn't need to use the awdflash. :)
Ok, so what I'm suppose to set next?
Btw, thanks for the help, guys. :))
im running 1202, and i like this bios, it still has a few issues, but its not bad. Ok so what cpu are you using ? and what is your memory speed, and timings ?, thats the first step, so we can get you going, post them here, and we go from there. Im confused on what cpu you are using.
Required System Specifications
PSU = Thermaltake Toughpower 1000W
CPU = Intel QX9650 Quad Core
RAM = Corsair XMS3 DHX TWIN3X4096-1600C7DHXIN DDR3 (2x2GB)
HDD = Western Digital Velociraptor x2 in RAID0 (300GBx2 = 600GB)
VGA1 = Asus GeForce 9800GX2 (1G VRAM)
SPU = Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro (Without front panel)
NorthBridge Cooling = None
SouthBridge Cooling = None
CPU Cooling = Intel Fan
RAM Cooling = None
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 15.23
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 181.22
Sound Card Drivers Version = 2.17.0006
BIOS version 1202
BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 9.0
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Unlinked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Auto
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1600
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200.0
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled
Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Enabled
P2 = Enabled
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 7
tRCD = 7
tRP = 7
tRAS = 20
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 1T
tRRD = 6
tRC = 41
tWR = 12
tWTR = 18
tFAW = 31
tRD = 9
tRTP = 6
tRFC = 88
tREF = 7.8us
Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = Auto
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto
CPU VTT Voltage = Auto
Memory Voltage = 1.90
NB Core Voltage = 1.44
SB Core Voltage = Auto
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto
CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Disabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
CPU Core 4 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled
Problem Description
LOCKCUPS while playing 3D Games ( World of Warcraft ) , also Snap pop crackle ugly sound.
Here're the things You've asked for, neo:
CPU type: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 speed: 3,00GHz
Memory speed: 1333.3MHz
Memory timing:
P1 Auto
P2 Enabled
Params: Setting Current
tCL Auto 9
tRCD Auto 9
tRP Auto 9
tRAS Auto 24
CMD Auto 1T
tRRD Auto 4
tRC Auto 33
tWR Auto 12
tWTR Auto 16
tFAW Auto 21
tRD 15 15
tRTP 7 7
tRFC 255 255
tREF Auto 7.8uS
Hope didn't miss anything. Sorry for the delay. :S
Ok just saw your post, have to go to work, will post settings later today.
So Dan, do you want to run everything stock speed ? or do you want to overclock it ?, who is your memory made by ? 1333 ram is not very fast, will limit your overclock for sure, let me know if you just want stock ? or a small overclock ?