I prefer the acrylic one myself.
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I prefer the acrylic one myself.
Hmmm this Dutch shop sells the EK Supreme for 46 euro... I'm so tempted to order one now :slobber:
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Originally Posted by Garrett
*presses "order" button for Garrett* :D
no it's not in stock yet :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jupiler
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Originally Posted by cka3o4nuk
PATIENCE IS A VIRTUEQuote:
Originally Posted by cka3o4nuk
damn it!! i demand a copper top!! without a copper top we'll have all kinds of corrosion, and another thing....
ooops wrong thread...
Hi Eddy,
I used your EK GPU block for my X800GTO˛ back in the days.
Seems like your blocks got alot of attention!!
Anyway I gonna order an GPU+CPU block and compare it with my swiftech and maze4.
Eddie has studied with the Masters and is fluent in the "Way of the Block". No aluminum crap here grasshopper. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Any word on tests between this and a bowed/nozzled FuZion + bowed GTX? I'm looking at placing an order at Petra's for a complete loop in a couple of days, and if this is going to match or beat a nozzled FuZion, and maybe cost a tad less, I'd jump on it.
Eller
Hello Eddy, when will the block be ready and available for sale in your store or elsewhere ???
Check post #299.
From Post # 299Quote:
Originally Posted by xforce
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddy_EK
Here is some pictures of the EK Supreme. I ordered directly from the EK online shop.
First, everything came nicely packaged.
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9185/1000367ha7.jpg
This is what I ordered (680 NB block and NF4 for SB).
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8228/1000369hr2.jpg
This is for mounting the EK Supreme.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9868/1000371eh4.jpg
The Supreme disassembled. I forgot to remove the middle plate.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2434/1000373wy8.jpg
Sorry for the quality. I am using a 5 year old Kodak EasyShare. Needless to say I am not into photography very much...
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4677/1000381hi3.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6154/1000378yx3.jpg
It is 02:47 in the morning. I will try to make some more pictures tomorrow. I hope somebody have some use of this.
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Originally Posted by 0xdeadbeef
results please @_@
more pic's of those sexy block!!! and results!! :)
Mine's here too:D Cheers Eddy:up:
Have run some quick temp readings with the GTX and will make some comparisons later on.
Here's a couple of pics(Not 3D renders LOL).
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2...preme01cs6.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2...preme02uf2.jpg
Cheers
RLM
How much does the EK Supreme cost compared to a FuZion w/ nozzles? I'm tempted to get the Supreme over the FuZion just 'cause it's so sexy :worship:
It'd be even better if it performs a shade better than the FuZion, too.
Eller
Thanks for the pics guys.
Let us know what you think...:D
+1 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Martinm210
Even though I machined all of my own blocks I am tempted to get one of these just because they are cool...
Oh man that make me :shocked:.... Well this is a PG forum so can't say . Can't wait untail the US get's it :up: in the acrylic :up:
just a quick question, I have dual loop system. Can 1 EK reservoir be connected to two pumps?
Who cares how it performs, look how nice it looks! Only kidding, I want numbers too.
While what your thinking about is very tempting for the space savings, it's not really recommended. The hotter loop will heat up the water in the cooler loop and definitely affect your temps.Quote:
Originally Posted by pphx459
awesome, didn't think about that one! Thanks!
btw love that quote "Friends don't let Friends use ThermalTake" :rofl:
Oooh, it looks awesome in the pictures, now let's hope it performs as well as it looks!
Is it only me who thinks the slightly offset barbs make it look a bit errr silly
Do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by welshtom
Perhaps you would rather see the barbs so close together, so you would not be able to to use 1/2" barbs and for example masterkleer tubing? ;)
Hey eddy, just would like to extend thanks/gratitude from australia for continuing to produce such high quality blocks :)
Small question however, my 8800GTX-FC copper is slightly tarnished, and its delrin on the inside, any tips for cleaning/polishing it?
Thanks for the pics, guys. Glad you got your blocks!
Is that the HiFlo nozzle-plate?
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2434/1000373wy8.jpg
Thnx for the pics :up:
I believe they are still working on the high flow and low flow nozzle plates, and they are not yet available. That's what I heard by email yesterday, so I'm guessing this is the low flow (High Performance) version.Quote:
Originally Posted by rabor
I'm ordering one tonight.
When its in ill try to sell my 1 month old fuzion, as long as I get 50€ for it I'm happy. :D
I just really don't want to bow my Fuzion myself, I always mess those lil things up.
Hopefully my temps won't be ruined by my upcoming HD3870 with my upcoming MCW60. :clap:
Have to say I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by welshtom
thank god you said it.. being posted by you and with that quality I would have said they were rendered ( really :) )Quote:
Originally Posted by RLM
I can barely wait for the test results!
it's the middleQuote:
Originally Posted by Martinm210
a cant wait to see the tight one and its performance ... cheers :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by zbogorgon
anyway, how will it be selled? for example, I saw it listed at one shop here @ cz, and its called EK Supreme Acetal .. What do I get except for the block (which I mean - base, mounting plate and top) thx
Okay for what it's worth a quick test.
A few things to bare in mind about my setup.
1. Ambient around 24-26c(Guessing here. Aircon is set to 24c, but it's a large room). In other words pretty warm.
2. Sides off case and fans on full.
3. Overclocked 8800 GTX volt modded @ 1.47v in the loop
4. The supreme is just installed, so thermal paste(MX-2) hasn't really had much time to settle in. Not sure how much difference that will make though.
5. Both the supreme and apogee GTX tests are hard mounted with a back plate.
6. Rads etc could probably do with a proper clean out. A bit lazy on that one.
7. bare in mind I'm no expert.
Lastly a nice little discovery for me. Red UV dye is in fact a pretty Barby pink:brick:
Okay then. Only 10 minute runs.
Apogee GTX Q6600 GO 422x9 3.8 ghz 1.5v (1.48w/droop) 8800 gtx 720/1684/1107 1.47v(Permanent overclock) in the loop
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8...ftt3800qb5.jpg
EK Supreme Q6600 GO 422x9 3.8 ghz 1.5v (1.48w/droop) 8800 gtx 720/1684/1107 1.47v(Permanent overclock) in the loop
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2...supremeyz7.jpg
Sorry it's not a comprehensive test and only a quicky. Will do some more tests later.
The Supreme just edges it here. Have to allow for a slight difference possibly in ambient temps though. Both decent blocks in my opinion:D
RLM
Wait a minute.. is it the GTX or GT that you have? I thought you had an Apogee GT. There's a difference between the two.
I was hoping for the EK Supreme to blow everything out of the water. Its supposed to be 4C to 5C better than the nozzled FuZion !
I have both a GT and GTX. That test was with the GTX.Quote:
Wait a minute.. is it the GTX or GT that you have? I thought you had an Apogee GT. There's a difference between the two.
Call me a cynic, but I really wasn't expecting a major difference personally. Others might get better results though. Could be that mine has room for improvement in the way it's setup. As I say no expert.Quote:
I was hoping for the EK Supreme to blow everything out of the water. Its supposed to be 4C to 5C better than the nozzled FuZion !
RLM
1-2с is more realisticQuote:
I was hoping for the EK Supreme to blow everything out of the water. Its supposed to be 4C to 5C better than the nozzled FuZion !
maybe there must be a better loop or... another injet plane..
as you can see it is not the performance jetplate
Hope that we get some bowed/nozzled fuzion comparisons soon :)
I think we already have the answer to that question. The prelim results show that the EK Supreme is about equal to the bowed and nozzled FuZion. Its supposed to be much better.
It is by far the best looking block on the market, now if it performs as good as it looks my FuZion will end up on one of my servers. :up:
Where?Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
Nowhere. Just observations from the results/findings observed above by RLM.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikhsub1
rLm looking forward to some more testing!!
take some pics of the block installed yeah!!
Ya I found that out also when I mixed it :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by RLM
I don't mind whether you like the look of it - just let me know if/when you will be stocking it!Quote:
Originally Posted by welshtom
asap hopefullyQuote:
Originally Posted by IanB
That is a optimal mid-to-hi-flow nozzle. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by rabor
Damn...that block makes me want to go back to watercooling....love the look :p:
Performance looks pretty damn nice as well...time will tell where it ends up, though it does look very promising.
What is the mid-plate made out of?
Can't wait to see some more results and test with the various plates :toast:
thought you guys with your Super Machismo UV-RED dyes might like this...Quote:
Originally Posted by RubberDuck
:rofl: :ROTF:
Ok that is so wrong in so many ways :rofl: :ROTF: funny as hell just so wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by kinghong1970
its made of laser-cut stainless steelQuote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
:toast:
It's so quiet in here.
Nobody who has tested the block yet?
Anyway, ordered mine this morning and is underway.
I hope I can post some results by the end of the week.
LOL Jupiler, I picked mine up today :slobber:
Looks excellent again, Eddy really does make top notch products time and time again :up:
Gonna throw the sucker in tomorrow and see what temps I get @ my Q6600... :)
Ordered mine Saturday :)
Ordered mine friday.
Hope to have it on saturday.
Nice,
looking forward to your results.
Mine will be done on my E6750, unless I manage to find a very nice quad.:)
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Originally Posted by Garrett
What will you compare it to? (what do you use atm`?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrett
atm I use the alphacool nexxxos xp bold... around 52c load on all 4 cores @ 1.33v with Prime95 25.5 (yes 4 threads at once :up:)
This temp is after about 15 minutes, I'll see what the EK block can do for me.
Oh and I have a pa120.3 with 6 x 1220rpm fans on it and an 18w DDC with alphacool top :)
Right some more tests.
Put the GTX back in a few days ago. Thanks to cutting a hole out of the back of the motherboard tray this is now a doddle to do.
I have a digital clock which has a thermometer built in and a fan (not blowing on kit) which also has a digital thermometer. The readings are 2c apart. I think the fan is probably the more accurate.
I kept the readings to 22c on the clock and 24c on the fan. This took a bit of work as the midday heat came. Had to tweak the aircon to keep ambient on level.
I ran some prime tests at 3.6 ghz and 3.825 ghz. As I say swapping the blocks was a doddle, so when I put the supreme back in I could leave the loop and
setup pretty much intact.
As per last test, sides off case and fans on the PA 120.3 at max. GPU at 1.47v. Both blocks were hard mounted with back plates and I used MX-2 thermal paste.
Note: I did 15 minute tests. I noticed that at Test 1 560000 the temps on the gtx jumped up a bit. More so than the supreme.
IDLE Apogee GTX 400x9 3.6 ghz.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/766...dle3600fn8.jpg
IDLE EK Supreme 400x9 3.6 ghz.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1...dle3600rp2.jpg
LOAD Apogee GTX 400x9 3.6 ghz. Temps up to Test 1 560000 51 51 47 46
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8...oad3600aw3.jpg
LOAD EK Supreme 400x9 3.6 ghz. Temps up to Test 1 560000 48 48 44 42
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8...oad3600xz7.jpg
IDLE Apogee GTX 425x9 3.825 ghz.
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7...dle3825yu3.jpg
IDLE EK Supreme 425x9 3.825 ghz.
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8...dle3825sc7.jpg
LOAD Apogee GTX 425x9 3.825 ghz. Temps up to Test 1 560000 57 57 51 51
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3...oad3825yk0.jpg
LOAD Ek Supreme 425x9 3.825 ghz. Temps up to Test 1 560000 55 55 50 49
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/550...oad3825va3.jpg
One thing, I did mount the supreme the other way round this time. With the Barbs over to the right of the top. Supreme engraving on bottom and Ek on top.
My conclusion for what it's worth is that the GTX and Supreme are pretty damn close. The supreme is cooler though by about 2 maybe 3 degrees c depending on the overclock.
Just one thought though with the Supreme. Would like to see a bit of a redesign on the mounting plate. Due to the size and the layout of my motherboard I wasn't able to test out a vertical mount. On the Apogee GT bowed the V mount did seem to help a bit with temps. I also like the fact that on the GTX more of the components around the cpu socket are exposed for fan cooling.
Well that's my take, obviously look forward to seeing other peoples results. Either way a happy chappy:D
RLM
Nice work RLM .. takes some real effort to do testing let alone changing water blocks around... looks like the Supreme has the edge, maybe a wee bit more once the TIM is allowed to settle and given the local environment every bit helps .. lucky its winter, only 29C today :D
Cool, thanks for letting us know!
Please note his testing is with a Apogee GTX and NOT the Fuzion w/nozzles. The Fuzion w/nozzles is also a few ºC better than the GTX.
Wow your mounting is way off, look at the core temps. Run some stress testing and adjst spring presure till the core temps sorta even out. I've gotten them to the same as each other other or 1c differnce on all 4 on my quad and got far better performance out the blocks
He said the blocks were hardmounted, so no springs involved here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete
also some cores just run hotter than others sometimes... can due to IHS (need to lap both sides to be "perfect") or differences with core height due to soldering process.
Nice results, I see it seems to be on par with Fuzion with the nozzles kit.
I guess we can't be wrong recommending the Supreme as well.
Some quads are different, you're lucky with yours. I did have a q6600 before, not such a good overclocker, but temps were more even across the cores.Quote:
Wow your mounting is way off, look at the core temps. Run some stress testing and adjst spring presure till the core temps sorta even out. I've gotten them to the same as each other other or 1c differnce on all 4 on my quad and got far better performance out the blocks
Just dug out this grab from my first q6600, which shows that.
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5...0bench1mb4.jpg
I've already lapped this Q6600 and as mentioned it's hard mounted. There's bugger all I can do about the difference between the cores. Guessing the problem lies under the IHS (Edit: As STEvil mentioned "differences with core height due to soldering process.", sounds like a possibility)
RLM
Just on that point. I'm no expert, so if I am missing something let me know.Quote:
got far better performance out the blocks
I do make an effort to make sure I screw down the mounting plates evenly.
What's your ambient temps, when you are getting much better performance?
Albeit sides off case, my setup is still mounted in the case, and isn't directly under A/C. In addition as mentioned I have the vmodded 8800 GTX in my loop.
Any thoughts appreciated.
RLM
Like I said, its the equal of the bowed and nozzled FuZion and a tad better than an Apogee GTX. Its supposed to be much better than everything out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
It didn't say it was supposed to be a ton better than everything out there. It was shown to be 5-6 degrees cooler than a Fusion. Not a Bowed Fusion. Not a nozzled Fusion. And definitely not a bowed and nozzled Fusion. But those 5-6 degrees do put it right at the effectiveness of a bowed and nozzled Fusion.
Now that still puts it right in the top of everything out there and could potentially be a better option for some since it is an all in one that doesn't require any further modification.
It's definitely worth the money, hell I paid 46 euros for it, whereas the FuZion is more in the range of 60+ euros... quick decision if you ask me ;)
Haven't installed it yet... but will tonight, as I said I'll keep you posted ;)
Hmm so far 52c stressed quad load Prime95 25.5... all 4 cores :D
sorry no screenshots you'll have to take my word for it, it's 2c hotter in my room than with the nexxxos xp so not much improvement there, maybe the paste hasn't settled in yet
Pretty toasty though, 4 cores 52c @ only 1.33v...
PS this is with a 8800GTS in the loop and a PA120.3, DDC 18W, 6 fans push/pull 1220 rpm and a totally open case
(pump-->8800GTS-->EK SUPREME-->PA120.3-->RES-->pump etc...)
I will be getting one soon enough and will have a QX6700 @ 3.4 and we all know how hot 6700s run, as well as a 8800GTS and 680I NB block in the loop.
I am eager to see what I get for temps.
Will post results when I get the block, though will not be for a little while.
Remember, this is the middle performance plate too - so more to come by the seems of things.
Mmmmh,
I just heard someone say that the block won't fit on the Gigabyte P35-DS4 rev. 1.0 board, because the mosfet cooler is in the way (about 2-3mm).
I should be receiving my block tomorrow (if all goes well).
As I have the P35-DQ6, which has the same mosfet cooling, I'm interested to see if this is true.
Eddy,
I've bought your block, but I want to hard mount using the Swiftech GTX backplate. I'm not sure what thread size I need for the GTX backplate but I can find that out elsewhere but what length of screw should I be looking at for the hard mount?
RLM, you hard mounted IIRC, maybe you can answer these questions? Thanks guys.
The GTX back plate uses M3 sized threading while EK provides M4 bolts, nuts and washers, if I'm not mistaken.
I dont think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jupiler
See attached image.
Best regards, Eddy
Thx Eddy, much appreciated.
Eddy does it matter how you mount the block?
I have it like in the P35 DQ6 example... or doesn't it matter :?
Garrett,
Just try it out and see. Will be interesting to see if you do get a difference.
For the Supreme I used a thermaltake back plate. Sorry that doesn't help you much.Quote:
I've bought your block, but I want to hard mount using the Swiftech GTX backplate. I'm not sure what thread size I need for the GTX backplate but I can find that out elsewhere but what length of screw should I be looking at for the hard mount?
RLM, you hard mounted IIRC, maybe you can answer these questions? Thanks guys.
RLM
I would guess you'll get a little better performance if you line up the slot nozzle with the core orientation. Just like the Artic Silver thin line notes recommend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrett
RE: Vertical Mount
After looking at Eddy's pics, I thought I would have another go at mounting the Vertical mount.
Managed to squeeze it in, but it does push up on the top heatsink, so the heatsink doesn't sit flush. A few small cuts to that heatsink and it would fit fine.
Results however weren't as good at load. Where as the horizontal mount averaged out at 55 55 50 49 during the 15 minute run, with vertical they averaged at 58 58 51 51.
Tests here at 425x9 1.51v Ambient same as previous tests.
IDLE EK Supreme 425x9 3.825 ghz
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/766...825idlegi9.jpg
LOAD EK Supreme 425x9 3.825 ghz
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/796...825loadly6.jpg
RLM
HHMmm......I'm looking at this one myself. I have my loop parts arriving tomorrow for my 2900xts, and I may end up running a seperate loop for my CPU. I haven't decided yet. I may end up testing with them on one, then upgrading if need be.
So is everyone satisfied with this one? Is this going to knock the Fuzion from 1st place?
Hi!
It is very likely that the turning the block for 90° would make a difference.
If you know how the cores are oriented you should turn the block that the channel section covers direct area vver the cores.
See very raw image:
Well my results above are to the contrary. On a quad that would be a vertical mount, and a horizontal mount is yielding better results. Have to wait and see other's results I guess.Quote:
It is very likely that the turning the block for 90° would make a difference.
If you know how the cores are oriented you should turn the block that the channel section covers direct area vver the cores.
See very raw image:
Just wonder if having the top heatsink pushed off the board is affects my temps?
RLM
What's the dimensions of the microchannelled area Eddy?
Anyone else with this block, got any results to post yet?
RLM
I should have one coming fairly shortly
I'd be ordering one very soon, but Petra said 2-4 weeks before he gets any in stock, and I don't want to wait that long before I place my order :(
Eller
I got mine yesterday afternoon.
Didn't have the time yet to install it.
I hope to post some results by tomorrow evening or saturday.
So where can we buy this in the States?
Yep I was gonna ask where to buy this block as well in the states :)
That's just a guesstimate... though, considering that it has been a week and I don't have confirmation of shipment yet, it may turn out to be an accurate guesstimate.Quote:
Originally Posted by karl_eller