Asus seems to be releasing bios updates at a much slower rate than they did for their 965 boards. Then again, I am not having stability issues, yet (knock on wood) so doesn't matter to me all that much.
Asus seems to be releasing bios updates at a much slower rate than they did for their 965 boards. Then again, I am not having stability issues, yet (knock on wood) so doesn't matter to me all that much.
Btw, no sata issues here with a 74,150 raptor, and a 250 gig wd sata hd..
I ended up putting a Thermaltake Spirit Extreme chipset cooler on my nb and it did seem to improve the performance. Couldn't do 1.70 before, now I can.
BIOS 0402 is out. :)
Users have reported that HD problems are fixed now.
Code:http://rapidshare.com/files/61339428/P5K-ASUS-Premium-0402.rar
Thanks for the headsup scaramonga. :toast:
I'm running 0402 now and so far it seems fine, no major differences in the BIOS that I can see, but I didn't have SATA issues with the old BIOS anyway.
BETA or REGULAR?Quote:
Originally Posted by scaramonga
I guess its regular offical as its on the asus ftp site with the others
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/asus/mb/so...5/P5K_Premium/
Any word on if 0402 fixes the cold boot issue?
i just put o4o2 in mine and it seems fine,i cant say about the colld boot,but it seems fine.
i did have a big problem yesterday tho'.i had my 6750 at 450fsb at 1.41v with my crucial ram at 2.3v.so i decides to see how high the fsb will go,so i go's in the bios and drop the multi to 6 and put the fsb to 520(which it has posted at,but i could not get it to windows) and rebooted.well it dint post and it took me till the next morning after leaving it overnight with the battery out to get it to pst again.i'm still only running it with one stick of the crucial in coz i dare'nt put the other one in.
i am changing my ram to this-->http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...atid=8&subcat=
will this be ok?
Reaper RAM is good on this board :) but I'd go for what I am using ---> http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...d=8&subcat=817Quote:
i am changing my ram to this-->http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...atid=8&subcat=
will this be ok?
;)
Did any of u guys getting the Samsumgs/WD to work with new BIOS as I saw few months ago that there were allot of probs there. I am building now a second rig, i got myself a P5K deluxe and for me it worked so far like a charm, upgrading to a X38 i dont see a point as atm the boards arent mature and by the time it gets mature x48 would be there..... So i might jump to this board and the board is pretty much the same as the deluxe and would be easy to get things worked. How are the Ram o/c ( namely Crucial Ballistix?) Got mine 1167 mhz 5-5-4-9 with just 2.05v set @ bios stable, would it O/c similiar like the deluxe?
Darn, boot problem doesn't seem to be fixed :(
Still can't overclock either...... seems like the FSB won't change to what's set in the BIOS. It simply won't change from 333MHz FSB. :shrug:
The Samsung variety are still having major problems with this BIOS according to the ASUS Forums, all others seem to be working well :)
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us
i have samsung drives in my board and it seems ok since flashing to 0402,i have checked the samsungs and they are set to sata300 and my board is set to ide mode.
When you flash BIOS, do it the correct way :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiee
Before flashing:
1. Enter BIOS and restore 'default settings', save and power off.
2. Unplug lead from back of PSU.
3. Remove CMOS battery.
4. Move CMOS jumper to clear settings and leave. (underneath battery)
5. Go have a beer while CMOS clears. (5-10mins)
6. Return jumper to original setting and replace battery.
7. Plug PSU lead back in.
8. Start up computer and enter BIOS, restore 'default settings', save and exit.
8. Enter BIOS again and run EZ Flash to flash new BIOS.
After flashing:
1. Unplug lead from back of PSU.
2. Remove CMOS battery.
3. Move CMOS jumper to clear settings and leave. (underneath battery)
4. Have another beer while CMOS clears. (5-10mins)
5. Return jumper to original setting and replace battery.
6. Plug PSU lead back in.
7. Start up computer and enter BIOS, restore 'default settings', save and exit.
8. Enter BIOS again and configure your settings.
;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by scaramonga
Did all that... its pretty much my ritual as well (At least has been for this particular board). The Premium has by far been the most frustrating board I've dealt with to date.
Seems Revision 1 (China) boards are having most problems, whilst Revision 2 (Taiwan) have little or none.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiee
Cant say (touch wood) I've had any problems at all with this board, I have Seagate drives (known best to work) in RAID from day one, and it clocks like a peach too, although I prefer to run it 24/7 @ 3Ghz 'stock settings' as I see no point in upping voltages for very little gain in return :)
What Revision of board do you have?
I have a Revision 1 (China) and I've had zero issues. Great board...Quote:
Originally Posted by scaramonga
Using 0402 here...no problems yet.
I have used this ram on the deluxe and the premium and if timings are set to 5-5-5-15 then it will do 1200Mhz at 2.2 volts , and not a bad price nowQuote:
Originally Posted by TI66ER
http://www.memory-configurator.co.uk...kit/index.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by scaramonga
My board is revision 2.00g made in China. I don't seem to suffer from any of the hard drive problems, but the boot/overclocking issues are equally as annoying.
FYI, I performed a full 8 hour CMOS clear overnight and that hasn't improved things much. Took out the ram, sound card, and video card while doing this.
When I restarted the PC I got the usual CMOS error, went into the BIOS and reset defaults, upon saving and exiting - the PC wouldn't start back up, so I reset it via the reset button. This time it booted but reported that the overclocking had failed. Of course the system wasn't even overclocked since the CMOS had just been cleared.
hey But how does the Seagate`s working out @ this board, I need to buy a HDD anyways, if seagates work I might skips the samsungsQuote:
Originally Posted by scaramonga
Jamieee they will never fix your boot issue if you are referring to the boot shutdown procedure after unpluggin the power cord or after altering (OC) setting in the bios, even my gigabyte boards do it sometimes, it's a chipset related thing... and Asus seems to stick with it, my P5W had it, P5B and P5K too... maybe the upcoming maximus too :p
Your FSB matter is another thing
@MCK Another post in the news thread mentioned there were still issues with Samsung drives
Seagates work just fine...I'm using four of them. Two in RAID and two as IDE. I also hace two SATA Samsung DVD writers for good measure. Everything works perfectly and I just updated to the new bios for the hell of it although I've had no issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by mc2k
My BadaXe 2 had more isues. :)
Seagate 7200.10 and Hitachi 1TB both work fine on my P5K Premium.Quote:
Originally Posted by mc2k
Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlybabyface
Thnx both for confirming & leeghoofd i dont have the samsungs but thnx for mentioning:)Quote:
Originally Posted by bobov
Question: Where do u actually need to connect SATA DVD Drives, to the Black or red ports. I read something like the Red ports need to be used for HDD with OS or sumtin. I need some info on this.
I have mine connected in ports 5 & 6.Quote:
Originally Posted by mc2k
i have both my samsung sp2504c's in the red ports 1+2 and sata samsung dvd/rw in black port 4.
Having just updated to 0402 for fun I noticed that my DDR options in BIOS have all increased by 3 Mhz. with FSB 450 and strap on auto I selected 1128(was 1125 with 0204 BIOS) I left the subsettings on default and when loaded Superpi ran slightly slower on superpi 1MB run. Checked with memset and the defualt subtimings appear to have been lossened with this BIOS. Immediately noticable was trfc-56 from 42 , write precharge delay=16, twtr=12. Anyone else getting this slight degrade of settings? I will try it with setting 10,42,10,0,10 in BIOS and see what if it run okay at the speed I ran on BIOS 0204 which was about 14.5 instead of 14.9 sec.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
Hmmm, I will have to check that.Quote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
Well, I noticed that my ram speed was slightly higher (2-3 mhz) at the same settings as before and my PI times have slightly improved (which would make sense) but I don't have anything to compare it to as I can't remember my subtimings with 204...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Yeah my P5WDH used to do that as well... though Asus did fix it in a later BIOS release (I still like that board...very solid overall, too bad I'm about to sell it to a buddy).
Anyway, my problem is that the P5K-P 99.9% of the time will not cold boot. It takes several power on/off cycles or resets before it will POST. Sometimes I need to turn the PSU off for a few seconds (Enermax 1000W) before trying to re-boot the system. (All the fans do come on though)
Also, durring many OS re-boots my system will fail to re-start - monitor goes off and nothing! Odly enough all the fans stay on then too.
70% of the time in each case I'll get the overclocking failed error upon POST, and sometimes I don't - Even though as it stands my system isn't overclocked at all.
Here's my system's specs:
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OS =..........Windows Vista Ultimate
Case =........Thermaltake Mozart Tx w/7" touchscreen LCD display
PSU =.........Enermax Galaxy 1000W
Motherboard =.P5K Premium Rev. 2.00g (BIOS = ORG:0204, Current: 0402)
Cooler =......Zalman CNPS9700 NT
Processor =...Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 (3.0Ghz default)
Memory =......Mushkin XP2 PC6400 2048Mb x 2 (4Gb)
Video Card =..BFG GF8800GTX
SATA-2 HD =...WD 320Gb x4 (1,280Gb Total)
DVD-R/RW =....Optiarc AD-7170A
HD DVD =....XBox 360 HD DVD drive USB
Floppy =......Fujitsu 1.44 floppy/7-in-1 media card reader
Sound Card =..Creative X-Fi Elite Pro
Monitor =.....BenQ FP241WZ Widescreen LCD 24" (x2)
This board is not reading my Raptor X correctly. It reports the total disk size to be 127.8 GB, when really its 139 GB. The partition operations are screwy as well.
Has anyone else had this problem?
Just finished my Vista 32 reload with my 80 Gig raptors in Raid-0, bios 0402.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-...aptorsRaid.jpg
so with the last Bios 402 , the board lost performance or not? can someone confirm this?
To me it looked as if the default memory subtimings had been loosened - may be wrong - need someone else to confirm it. No big deal really as it would only have a minimal effect and you can get any speed loss back by entering your own manual timings in BIOS or with memset. I used 5,5,5,15,3,30,3,3,8 which brought my Superpi back to 14.5Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoc
My boot problems have seemingly gotten allot worse with this 0402 BIOS revision.
before with 0204 or 0302 a cold boot would take maybe 2-10 power on/off cycles and the system would boot after a clear CMOS procedure.... Now it takes at least 10-20 tries and in some cases (like this morning) over 30 attempts before it will POST. Also it won't boot right after I clear the CMOS.
The kicker today is that once I did get it running, it's only booting up at 2.4Ghz where it should be clocked to 3.0Ghz.
I fear having to re-boot or shut down my PC because I know getting it to run again will be nothing short of a struggle.
I'm pretty close to giving up on this board and getting something else. Talk about wasted money :(
Try setting ram to run at DDR1067 in the bios, this sorted some wierd overclocking failed errors I was getting. Just a thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiee
0402 are Betas.
Nibble,
I have tried running the ram at 1066Mhz and while my ram does run stable, I still suffer the boot problems.
I can't shake the feeling that this might be somehow BIOS related. I just re-flashed 0402 and I'll see how that goes - though I'm not expecting miracles.
I'm also only running with one stick of ram for testing purposes.
The board was able to boot after flashing w/ ezFlash, and also booted after various BIOS setting changes. It did however fail to reboot after I disabled C1E, SpeedStep, Venderpool Tech., etc... on the CPU page and saving.
I was able to get it booted back up after pressing the reset button (only once this time :clap: ) and the POST reported that my overclocking had failed (not that anything really was overclocked).
The reason I suspect it may all be BIOS related is because when I first setup the P5WDH, it had a similar boot problem that was eventually fixed with a BIOS update.
The only thing is that I haven't heard of too many people complaining about boot issues with the P5K-P. Most of the complaints seem to surround the SATA-II problem.
That's rough man, it seems like a bit of a lotto with boards lately. The only issue I had was the bios refusing to save and then on reboot getting the overclocking has failed error, setting ram to ddr1067 fixed the issue. Currently running everything at stock with the 0302 beta and no problems yet, we'll see when I push it a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiee
Hi everyone first post here.
I built a new system in June and Bought the P5K I overclocked it quite a bit and had a lot of great expereinces, its a very forgiving MoBo which is great.
Anyways I recently heard about these Sata problems and thought id chip in,
I had my Board ship with BIOS 0102. I still have 0102 on it, because I dont want to flash the bios if i dont have to.
Anyways My system consists of E6850 OC'd to 3.92- crucial ballisitx ram clocked to DDR2-1046 @4-4-4-10. 1 WD 320AAKS SATA2 and 1 WD Raptor X, 8800 ultra and other stuff thats not relevant to the SATA problem lol.
Anyways I ran HDTUNE tests using for both my drives 5 times each and got great results which ill post pics below.
One interesting test showed that once i restarted my comptuer i ran the test RIGHT AWAY, and because of this the Disk was used by my PC to load and cache certain items as it does every start up. Which made my test spiek down to 1.98 mbs!!! I got really worried that this is the problem, turns out its not. Its just because that my computer uses the DISK while its being tested which makes the results that way.
I tested this by doing the same thing again (running the test right after i restarted and windows runs. And against restarting and waiting a couple mins for my disk to not be in use and then run the test. You can see the test results yourself- there great!
Anyways all my disks are run at IDE, I dont know what the main problems are some people cant boot into windows i get or even install it, while some just get poor performance, so i dont know waht there basing it on, but these are my results with a China Made v 1.00 board.
sata2 3200aaks
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f15/btdvox/WDC.jpg
wd raptor x "good"
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1.../wdcraptor.jpg
wd raptor x "in use"
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1...raptorslow.jpg
(sorry my "good" raptor test is hard to see- but its there il post a better version if people want)
Cheers
If you pay a premium price for a MB designed for overclocking and you know what u are doing and you then encounter problems like not being able to save BIOS updates or cold boots when all the rest of your setup is high quality kit - dont mess abourt trying to fix it - RMA it. If it was a car you had bought and it wouldn't start when delivered you would send it back straight away.! You paid good money - get a replacement so you can get on clocking your CPU without spurious issues because of a duff board.! I am not knocking the MB overall cos I have one and like it but there does seem to have been some bad early batches. I have a rev 2.0 and have no issues at all (apart from Vista x64 speed issues-lol!) and it is great for o/c the q6600 and the memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiee
sesdave,
Of course you're absolutely right... I should RMA this board. I've tried everything I can think of (other than using another CPU - which likely wouldn't change anything), and nadda has worked.
Now the question is, if I RMA the Premium, I'll need another board... Should I get the same thing or maybe see if I can find a Maximus Formula locally?
I still have my Striker Extreme handy, but It's never played all that well with my Mushkin RAM (upper limit of 900MHz @ 5-5-5-15) whereas with the Premium I'm easily getting 1066MHz @ 5-4-4-12. I'd also like to just swap boards without having to re-do the OS et-all. Keeping to an Intel chipset would likely afford that, but installing the Striker would almost for sure mean a format.
Ahh, decisions, decisions...
Personally I would get another Premium - overall it a nice board and o/c nicely. It was just bad luck getting a duff one. Make sure you get the rev 2.0 if you do get one. The BIOS will continue to be developed and it will support the penryn. The maximus cost more and this living reviews show the BIOS seems a bit flakey. http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=124 Deja VU perhaps-lol! From what I have read x38 boards with DDR2 dont seem to offer much performance gain either unless you want to run crossfire with 2900xt's. That said ChaosminionX has offered to do a comparision of P5K Premium and the Maximus over here http://www.driverheaven.net/motherbo...aximus-se.html That should be good reading and may make your mind up for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiee
If you have to fall back on your striker whilst you RMA the MB get a copy of Acronis True image and Universal restore software. This will let you backup the operating system and then restore to any new platform. If you cant get a copy of that software at least take a ghost image whuch may save you a reinstall if you decide on the premium.
Interestingly enough my current Premium is rev.2.00g made in China - Must just be a flaky board that's all.
Reading around the net, it looks like several users of the P5K series are having similar boot problems to mine. Wonder what's going on?
Yeah I've heard about some flakiness with the Maximus Formula.... but then it is a new board so That's to be expected. The Striker Extreme was touchy at times until Asus finally got most of the kink's worked out of their BIOS. Funny enough it was one of their earlier BIOSes (1102 I think?) that actually worked really well with my Mushkin ram, too bad it doesn't support the G0 core CPU's.
Anyway, I don't think the Striker will be going back in... its been in and out of my PC a couple of times and makes for a good standby if needed, but I think I'd rather just get another premium or try something else.
Read what you have said and apply it to the premium-lol!. Its not exactly an old MB is it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiee
But back to more important things - it half time in the rugby world cup and France are leading England 6-5!
update -21:40-GMT - England with the worst playing record as Cup holders since the tournament began have just allowed France to play all the rugby in the second half but beat them 14-9 to go into the final. Wilkinsons boot saves them again. - :banana::banana::banana::banana: I am Scottish but it was the French after all - lol!. wish I had put money on the so called no hopers!
Quote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
Is that real world time or technology time?
Real world time = Brand spanking new (Almost born yesterday)
Technology time = Somewhat new-ish (certainly not the latest and greatest, but more than acceptable) Will be completely outdated in another 6 months! :eek:
:D
GO ENGLAND!!!!!
Both could be applicable depending on how you look at it- but thats the name of the game, lol! If your not after crossfire with 2900xt's just how much a performance gain will x38 with DDR3 give????? benching - yes cos any improvement is leapt upon but real world applications I cant see that much of a gain. So the P5k will have legs for some time to come and its cheaper with ddr2.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiee
P.s good game tomorrow at 20:00 GMT - Argentina vs South Africa. That will be a battle of the packs! I must put the light on cos I keep having to edit my spelling.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
Oh I have no interest in going the DDR3 route yet. Its too expensive for only a bit of increase in performance. The Maximus Formula is DDR2 based and does have the advantage of alot more settings being available in the BIOS than the Premium.
The more simplistic nature of the P5K-P's BIOS is kind of nice, but limiting from an overclocking perspective.
All this motherboard talk reminds me that I need to get building my buddies machine. He's getting my "old" components: P5WDH, E6700, 2Gb DDR800, etc...
Hmmmm... wonder how the P5W would run with my E6850 in it??? -NM-
Argentina vs. South Africa eh? That should be a very good match.
P.S. didn't your mother ever teach you to watch the tv with the lights on? :D
I have a P5K-Premium made in China rev 2.00g and had a flaky boot problem....it was because the vid card wasn't seated properly, i'd bumped it when doing stuff in the case!
Aside from that one session where it caused me grief it's been running fine with 8gb of ram and my Q6600 @ 3.6GHz with 1.4v real and 4 x WD Raptors in raid 0. Overclocks set and stick fine in bios, no problems at all, great board so far after a few months use.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lowdog
All the more reason to think my board is somehow defective.
I suspect it's either a flaky northbridge controller or something to do with the power regulators around the CPU.
I've been through just about everything to troubleshoot this board multiple times over with no improvement. Oddly enough the beta 0402 BIOS seems to have made the problem worse, so this does leave the possibility that it could be somehow BIOS related but then why don't many others suffer from the same fait? At the end of the day I'm kinda tired of dealing with it, so I think I'll go out today if I have the chance and see what's available. I'd kinda like to try the Maximus Formula just for a change but if it's not available then I'll likely get another P5K Premium.
-EDIT-
Just called the shop and they said they won't have the Formula in for another two weeks at least, but they do have several Premiums in stock..... So I guess it's another Premium for me.
Hopefully 2nd time is a charm.
Alright folks, I picked up the new P5K Premium this morning, got it home and waisted no time installing it...
So far so good!
It booted right away and has done so after every BIOS setting change I've saved. I'm even running on a slight overclock right now :D
This board is ver. 2.00g : made in Taiwan and comes with BIOS 0204.
There's is some obvious differences between the two boards in terms of capacitors used as well as the box colours and graphics.
The first board has the Serial No.: 76M0AIL
And the new one is: 78M0ACL
An interesting note is that this new board feels snappier in windows, I notice programs opening quite a bit faster and I don't think its due to the mild overclock either. Strange.... but good :)
Well I'm off to do more testing (wish me luck).
Greetings!Pictures?Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiee
I did take some, I'll see if I can't upload them a bit later ;)
www.ncix.comQuote:
Originally Posted by jamiee
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...nufacture=ASUS
they have asus maximus formula in stock for an decent price...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynasty
Local shop is $269.00 CAN for the Maximus Formula when they get stock.
Either way, I'm happy to finally have what seems to be a working Premium.
Here's three shots showing the booklets, open box covers, and the front of the box covers with the boards :
(P.S. sorry for the crappy pic's... I was in a rush to get the new board installed) :D
Greetings!
Interesting.
I have no problems with my P5K Premium and it came with the "old" manual and the "new" box.
Greetings to you too :D
Greetings!
VAIO!?!?! The Vaioman? :eek:
Long time no see!
PS: My MB is version 2.00G made in Taiwan.
:D
Was offline a while but me needs to crunch :)
Oh on topic...erm, nice board :p:
Anyone found a working clockgen for it ?
some more clear pictures for board details......please - -
seems the new one has the red capacitors in the bottom left corner...while the old one has the same color as deluxe
Quote:
Originally Posted by waynetu
You would be correct about that. The older board has a mix of red and purple coloured capacitors, while the new board is all red.
Btw, now running at 3.6Ghz, FSB=400MHZ, RAM=1000MHz.
No boot problems what so ever!! :clap:
Glad you took my advice - lol! That looks more like it. Trust your initial impressions - think of all the fun you would have been having without tearing your hair out if you had RMA'd straight away- that said I am practically bald-lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiee
Re your initial view of your new MB that it is snappier - One thing that has been annoying me since I put this system together with Vista x64 is that numerous applications seem to be slow to load. I had expected electric performance . Boot up and close down are fine and I have no disk problems,DVD burns in 8 minutes, Movie rendering/conversion very quick. All sandrasoft benchmarks are good. I had put it down to Vista X64 and was hoping SP1 will improve performance but you comment has got me wondering if it is the MB. Anyone else using Vistax64 on this MB suffering slow application load?
my board is a rev 2.00g made in china with the mixed red and purple caps,but my box and manual are the new ones from the pics above.i've not tried raid,but it seems to work fine.i'm at 3.7ghz/465fsb at 1.45vcore with my E6750.
my serial no. 77M0ACT82687
Does the 0402 fix the "problem" of the board turning off and then on again whenever you first power on the system (when it's overclocked) after you have switched off the mains previously? :confused:
from what etailer did you guys got the rev2 taiwan?
i want to buy mine but don't want to get a bad rev....:)
I dont know, It seems these problems are really really scattered and not tied to "Old or New versions of the MoBo"
there are many people with the older Chinese model that are perfectly working
Including me, while many people of the new version have working Motherbaords and ones that dont work. So it seems pretty much luck of the draw.
This is a neat way of dispalying all temps using PCwizard 2008 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1351
kindof like everest but more compact. Thanks to Justchill for this pointer. I havent used the product for some time but will now.
I bought one of these today, its the new box & manual, Made in china S/N: 78MOAI. Rev2.00g
Detects my 76Gb Raptor and 300Gb Maxtor Sata 1 drive. If i connect my 500GB WD Caviars Sata II it hangs at post for a few minutes trying to detect it without success :(
My PC will then boot but without my Caviar .... Pfft
Just tried bios 0402 and problem persists.
Hmm... my new board only does this "sometimes" after setting a new overclock setting in the BIOS, but only happens the one time after I've saved the settings and the board reboots.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWY
After I've shut down the system for a period of time and then re-start it, it just boots the one time like it would if it was at default settings.
This is with the 0204 BIOS. I haven't felt the need to flash to any of the new betas yet as everything has been solid so far.
sesdave,
Now is all that baldness due to puters or is it really the wife/girlfriend/kids ?? ;)
A..hummmm...
Now...., have you tried disabling some of the graphical features/effects in vista?
Some of them can tend to make programs seem more sluggish at times.
I wouldn't characterize my Vista Ultimate 32bit experience with my first P5K-P as being/feeling slow exactly... if anything it was maybe on par to slightly slower than when running the Striker Extreme, yet did seem a bit slow compared to the experience I remember when running my older P5W DH Board.
I'm not sure what it was about the P5W, it just felt snappier in certain situations. The new P5K-P certainly has that feel to it and maybe a little improvement to boot.
One interesting thing to note is that with the first Premium I could noticeably see a difference in boot times depending on the settings used in the BIOS. With this new board it seems to boot consistently every time.
i just noticed,mine says along the edge,it says pcb made in taiwan.does that mean its a china or taiwan board?(sorry if its a daft question) coz on the serial no. sticker on the bottom pci slot,it says made in china.
means mine would be a taiwan 2.00g.caps are mixed purple and red.
http://img.techpowerup.org/071015/Untitled.jpg
That's interesting. I go by what's printed on the PCB.Quote:
Originally Posted by TI66ER
What's your boards serial number?
OK so my 6850 can hit 8 x 487 at around 1.45V. However, I can't get it to go above 8x490 despite having fine temps and plenty of voltage headroom. Any ideas?
Also, is it better to run the FSB at like 475 and go 1:1 on the memory or use the 9x and a divider?
Answer:Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiee
Quote:
Originally Posted by TI66ER
Hey man we have the same type mobo, I haven't tried BIOS 0402 and RAID yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by TI66ER
Here's two pic's showing the different coloured capacitors used between my two boards. Also note that the larger sized cap's have slightly different numbering (not sure if it means anything).
Quick off topic question guys. I am getting a constant red light from led next to the PCI-E x16 slot. The manual says something about if that happens then the slot isn't getting full bandwidth. CPU-Z and Everest both report that slot has x16 enabled. I was wondering if any of you are also getting the red LED going off? Thanks.
2.00G China board with all red caps by the way, no hard drive trouble since day one.
What is a safe 24/7 voltage for P5K+6850?
In order to prevent long-term electromigration etc.?
They dont all do 4.0ghz plus- mine had a 500 FSB wall. Try increasing vcore and PLL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Machinus
Different views on that one - higher bandwidth vs speed or a nice combination. Read this and make your own mind up - very educational. http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=195
Baldness is for real men - especially ones with wife and kids- lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiee
I had a P5W and it was very zippy with winxp , e6600 3.6 and 2x1GB compared with this one with Vistax64,q6600 3.6 and 4x1GB ram. I had hoped for more on this setup - course at my age it could be my memory of the P5W performance letting me down. Maybe SP1 will cure(in my dreams!). I have done all the tweaks and service disabling that are around. Anyways its time for a Vistax64 reinstall -its been weeks and I have nothing else to do! This time I will try the matrix raid 0/1 and see what that does for me. Probably nothing apart from improving my HD tune pictures -lol!. !
my mobo has combo color caps and the pcb is made in Taiwan.....:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiee
same as mine nicepun.
there seems to be an inbetween board which we have.with mixed caps but a taiwan board.
Well now, we can't both be wrong in thinking the P5W was a zippy little board.Quote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
FYI, I just enabled the "Intel Robson Technology" option in the BIOS, and I swear its given my drives an extra little kick in the pants.
I wonder why Asus hasn't made this setting available in the 0302, 0402 betas?
One thing I've been thinking is that just because the boards PCB may be made in a particular location, it doesn't necessarily mean that the motherboard was assembled in that same location.
Infact, take a close look at the bottom of PCI slot#3 in the pic of the "NEW" board. there's a sticker that shows the boards serial number and if I'm not mistaking it says Made In China
-EDIT- I can confirm that the sticker does indeed say made in china.
i notice on the new version pictured above,all red caps and made in taiwan on the pcb,but made in china on the sticker.
EDIT-weres the serial no. sticker on the "old" board?,mine has the sticker on the bottom of pci3,and is exactly the same as the "new" one apart from the mixed caps.
what is intel robson tech?
Read all about it http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/381 I thought it was mainly for laptops and hadn't noticed it in the BIOS but I am now on 0402 so the option has goneQuote:
Originally Posted by TI66ER
I did read this about using matrix storage raid0/1 with 2 disks only for some very zippy I/O performance and the benefit of raid 1 for photos,music etc so I am going to give that a try.
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=467848
edit - according to manual robson option only shows when you enable AHCI so no wonder I never saw it!. setup raid 0/1 on my 2 sata HDD's. Yes it gives me faster read response times and I load a little quicker but I cant see what real pupose it will serve if I am not doing a load of disk reading/writing. Still I had to suck it and see - it was an interesting exercise . I may go back and setup to run with AHCI just to try that out as well. You can tell I am getting bored waiting for new games. The COD4 demo look too good to be true - so intense. I wait for the full game release with anticipation - something to finally use my severely overclocked machine for-lol!
Ive got my WD Caviar 500GB working, it just needed to be in SATA 1 port, my 76GB Raptor(boot) and 300GBMaxtor then work in any of the other SATA ports :)
Maybe SATA2 drives need to be in SATA1 port.
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Originally Posted by TI66ER
The sticker on the older board is on the PCB right between the ram slots and CPU socket
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Originally Posted by sesdave
I'm using AHCI which has similar performance characteristics to a RAID setup.
I think if I ever decide the need to go to a RAID setup in the future, I'll be sure to buy a dedicated card because on-board RAID can be somewhat flaky and RAID arrays rarely work between different motherboards boards (I.e. when doing an upgrade).
I really appreciate the link.Quote:
Originally Posted by sesdave
I'll have more info when I tame this beast!
anyone have any clue why if you unplug the computer and then plug back in why it would all of a sudden refuse to post? I built a rig for a customer and he went to unplug his computer to move it to another room and then remember he needed to do one more thing so he plugged it back in and poof, no video/post. I told him to plug his speakers back in to see if he gets Windows sounds when it boots, nope. I told him to check the DVI cable at both ends, both are fine. He said it is having power surges of some kind. When he turns it on it powers on, then powers down, then powers back up again and then just sits as the fans run but doesnt post or boot into windows. Anyone have any clue here? I told him hed prolly have to ship it back to me for testing but man what a pain in the ass.
Maybe he dropped it-lol! How computer conversant is he. Has he plugged in the keyboard and mouse again - in the right coloured connectors.? If it wont post could be loose memory,vid card,corrupt BIOS or duff PSU. If he is capable get him to check required componets are seated okay then try a boot. If it fails try a clear CMOS - if it still fails probably the PSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budwise
Mine has mixed color caps and is ver. 2.00G...Made in Taiwan. Box says...Made in China.
I have a WD 320GB Sata II drive and it works fine. I did buy a Seagate 320Gb Sata II drive for my XP64 boot.
Hey people,
I've been reading most of this thread in the past few days. First time posting, though. I bought this P5K Premium mobo a few days ago here in Belgium, and didn't know by then that there was so many problems reported using it.
FYI, mine has purple *and* red capacitors on it,
PCB made in Taiwan
Rev 2.00g
I can't look at the sticker at the bottom of the last PCI slot right now, so I don't know if the whole board is made in Taiwan or China.
According to the pictures I saw in this thread, I have the old box and manuals, though.
I first installed it with Hitachi SATAII drives on it, and had several errors displayed in the Windows XP Event Viewer. I'm now installing Seagate SATAII drives on it instead of the Hitachi's... we'll see if it gets better then.
I had mail contact with ASUS France tech support about the SATA problems. They answered me that they are not aware of any issues with this board (!!!) and that they'll contact ASUS Taiwan to see if they do have any informations on that...
I have the same rev and boxes(I wouldnt get to hung up on this by the way!) I am running 2 xT7K500 on the ICHR controller with matrixs RAID 0/1 on both disks and have no problems at all. I was running them as single drives no problem before. Latest BIOS 0402 fixes most sata releated issues except for samsung.Quote:
Originally Posted by thefiddler
What the rest of your setup and what do you mean by several errors? Have you run a diskscan for errors? Check drives with HD tune and HD TAch and see what performance you get.
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Originally Posted by sesdave
My complete setup is as follows:
Antec P180B
Asus P5K Premium /Wifi-AP (BIOS 0402, rev 2.00g)
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Seagate 7200.10 320GB x2
Corsair DDR2-8500D (2x 1GB)
Creative XFi Fatality FPS
eVGA 8800GTX KO ACS³
I did actually run multiple diskscans on the drives, they're all fine.
When I say several errors, I mean Windows XP install went fine, and didn't take more time that it shoud have. Though, when I tried to install the latest Intel Chipset Driver, it returned an unknown error.
I re-installed WinXP after that, didn't get that error anymore, but after that I noticed my computer did reboot by itself during the night, so I checked the Event Viewer, which displayed several errors related to the hdd's controller drivers. Those errors were showing up many times a day, particularly when copying/writing large files to the disks.
At that time, I had three Hitachi T7K250 (160GB) SATA2 hdd's.
And I mean they really were in SATA2 mode, changed by using the Hitachi boot utility (since those drives are originally sold in SATA1 mode, which may be switched to SATA2 using that utility).
All three were in standard IDE mode. No RAID, no AHCI.
I also noticed that file transfer between two drives or two partitions was sometimes really sloooooow. Some HD Tach tests I made were reporting large speed drops at certain points, and sometimes returned really poor speed for one of the drives (below 5MB/s).
That said, I do not think BIOS 0402 fixes the SATA issues for everyone but Samsung HDD users. On Asus forums, there are still a lot of people having trouble with other hdd brands such as WD (some of them have to keep their drives to SATA1 mode for them to work fine). :(
And please forgive my english / mistakes, I'm Belgian... and french is my main language. :)
afternoon lads,
like many, i switched from e6600 & p5w to q6600 & p5k-p a short time ago and recently bought a TR ultra 120 to replace the ageing asus silent square i never should have bought to begin with.
i also bought a antec 900 case which i'm fairly pleased with.
a couple of weeks ago I stuck my finger into the 200mm antec 900 "big boy" fan running at full whack which broke a] one of the 9 fan blades and b] my fingernail.
after sucessfully aralditing the fan blade back into place and lapping my q6600 & ultra 120 with 1200 wet & dry, It seems to be stable at 9 x 400 and i've been playing around trying to get it stable at 9 x 412mhz but so far it can only manage about 90 minutes of prime95.
can anyone suggest some good chipset voltages to help get over 400mhz with stability?
i'm loving the black pearl and it's certainly no curse to me, however I feel for those faced with sata issues & hope the new bios has helped somewhat.
yesterday I cooked up a vlite slipstreamed vista x64 with 292 hotfixes and installed it onto a single 36gb raptor with AHCI and it's feeling much more responsive than before when it was plain old SATA IDE.
i'd like to thank everyone on the forum for all the great info and for the inspiration that lunatics like eva2000 provide to ignite the overclocking flame within us all.
cheers, limb0
Your english looks very good to me - but I am scottish-lol!.Quote:
Originally Posted by thefiddler
have all the issues you were experiencing gone with using the seagates-?
Some of the point u have raised are of interest. I have slow copy on large files but that is a known vista x64 problem . I also see dips when I run HD tune and hd tach but put that down to file placement and the fact anti-virus and some other background apps were running. After a defrag and stopping most of them the graph looks a lot better. Overall performance seems good but if I can get a lot better with different drives I might consider a change.
You should consider raid 0/1 setup using only 2 drives with Matrix storage manager - you can get some crazy performance increases. Check out this thread - http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=467848. I tried this out as I have nothing else to do - its good fun. I also bought Acronis true image home 11 to do backup/restores to cover me for when the raid 0 fails -which it will at some point! Great software - I recommend it.
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Originally Posted by sesdave
Hey Sesdave,
I'm now running on two Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (2x 320GB, SATA2) drives instead of my three Hitachi's (3x 160GB, SATA2).
For now, everything looks fine with the new drives and the Windows XP install. I now use my Seagate drives in AHCI mode though, instead of standard IDE mode (which I was using for my Hitachi's).
I still have errors showing up in my Event Viewer, but I don't think this is harddrive or SATA-controller related. These are errors about a specific program (Sisoft Sandra), errors from the RemoteRegistry which isn't able to start (I've disabled this, so I guess this is pretty normal), and another error which I don't know anything about:
"The device Root\LEGACY_TAT\0000 disappeared from the system without first being prepared for removal."
I'll check that link you gave, might be interesting :)