If i recall correctly he was using school hardware - might explain the sudden disappearance ;)
But yeah, big loss for the team :(
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If i recall correctly he was using school hardware - might explain the sudden disappearance ;)
But yeah, big loss for the team :(
Most creative use of smilies...ever :yepp: Mawsoccer is missed - lets us know whats going on mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
On a similar note - my internets have broken at home :shakes: Trying to get a cable connection installed & fix my ADSL connection at the same time right now - so I'll have a bit of redundancy in future - but for now I'm offline :mad:
I PM'ed Mawsoccer to see what happened. He said he was surprised that the systems ran this long. They were macs at his school but they get reimaged apparently every summer. So for the summer they won't be crunching but come fall we can expect to see him back again - maybe with even more firepower from the sound of it :D
Good detective work sc00p - hopefully everything will be normal at the Stanford servers soon.
Great my friend and his family went on vacation so my crunchers over there are shut down for the next week. Bummer. Oh well, guess that is what happens sometimes.
I noticed our team graph is bouncing all over recently. Anyone know if the servers are still acting up or are we actually bouncing around like that? :confused:
I think a lot of that bouncing is me. Check out my dailys lately.
BigDeel hit 600k:)
:up: Big_deel :up:
Gratz on the 600 mate :D
good job, getting 600k
Uh-oh, I think that the stats are having trouble again. I don't believe that Angra has NO points today, and only 266 yesterday, and I am positive I have uploaded WUs last night and early this morning that just haven't shown up. Great, here we go again :rolleyes:
stats are right - stanford servers are having problems, I think.
plus I have been taking 1.5 days to do WUs a lot lately, so when i get a big day, the next is sometimes tiny or empty.
Oh OK, that makes sense.
I really wish we'd get those nice WUs back through here again. I used to be up around 1900PPD with my old set of P3, duron, and athlon ~1GHz crunchers with only a few A64's in the mix. Now I have my GPU OC'd a little more and most of my crunchers are upgraded, with only one at 1.13GHz with the rest much faster, yet my PPD is pretty low in comparison to earlier this year :(
Oh well, it is the science that counts :) Doesn't mean I don't want my stats to look nice though :D
Question about gpu vs cpu vs smp client. I have been running the gpu client for a little while now. It takes about 12.5-13 hr, plus one core to finish a wu. Would I be better off to run 2 regular clients and no gpu, or maybe just run the smp client? How long and how many points are the regular wu's? I am just trying to see what is the best way to utilize my system.
I'm currently running an e6700 @ 3.7 with a 1950pro. Gpu client on one core and d2ol on the other core.
Thanks.
1 GPU client and 1 CPU client will most definitely give you better PPD than 2 CPU clients. However, on your CPU the SMP client might be better than those, but if you are running d2ol on one core then you can't really use that.
Download and run ATItool, it'll put your card to 3D clocks and thus fold much faster. Only catch is then it runs warmer so the fan gets noisier, and for 24/7 use like that I'd suggest cranking the fan up to keep it from getting too hot. 80C is the max I'd let it get, preferably keep it lower. Of course, if you are on water then it is no problem ;) woot for 45C loaded on my X1950XT @ 682MHz core :D well, in normal ambient temps anyway, right now it is at 51C but my ambients are around 28C (yeah pretty warm in here!)
@ [XC] 4X4N, if you can have your E6700 running an smp client most of the time you'd definitely get your best production vs resources used. My E6600 running smp 24/7 @ stock settings is pulling about 14-1500 ppd, which should be easily attainable for your rig.
If you were to run dual gpus, you'd still have both cores of your E6700 babysitting the gpus....in essence burning two gpus @ 100% and both cores @ or near 100%. That's a lot of juice my friend :eek: Sparky is on the money on gpu folding...always use atitool to OC the cards and override the fan controls for optimal production from them :up:
BTW, most regular WUs are between 200-500 points last I checked :down:
Ok guys, I'm going to switch over to smp client when the current gpu wu finishes. I do have the card overclocked a little, running the core at 600. Didn't spend much time to see how high it would go. If I can double the 660 a day I've been getting, I'll be happy.
I've been running the smp client on my new q6600 :D . The work units are very nice -- current one is worth 1760 points, and takes less than 12 hours to complete. But lately the client has been getting hung up, so I lose however many hours it takes before I happen to check it and close/restart the program. Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
I have the smp client running now. 1760 points also. According to fahmon, about 22 hours for completion. That would be over 1800 per day :up:
I will keep an eye on it and make sure it stays running.
When I borrowed my friend's A8N-SLI and X2 3800 @ 2.6GHz (while I RMA'd some parts left and right during my bout of a weird hardware issue) I ran the SMP client on it. Found that the GPU client + 1 CPU client was better for PPD on it. However, my opteron has 2x the cache (which I heard the SMP units really like extra cache) and is a little faster at 2.7GHz, which eventually I hope to get 3GHz, or at least close. Maybe I should load up the SMP on my PC and just see how well it works out... hmm.
That's great news 4X4N! I'm sure you'll feel 100x better once you chaulk up that first smp WU ;)
Sparky, very true on the L2 cache. Some of those WUs are extremely cache intensive, and one of my rigs decreases in efficiency (ppd) by 28% when it catches those bad boys....and it's due to the smaller cache :mad:
You know what they say...cache is king....sorry, i couldn't resist :D
Well, for a long time I've only had 1 machine folding for us. The machine in my room had no OS and my brothers machine had always been unstable enough to run it. Since my dad & my brother are away this weekend, I was able to load my machine back up and finally find a sweet spot for my brothers machine. Hopefully I'll be able to keep a consistent 100 or so a day (or 700 per week) which would be nice. I want that top 50:CTF:
Finished up my first smp wu :D Just over 20 hrs to complete, plus my temps don't go as high as when I was running the gpu client.
Temps aren't as high, hmm... if you are on water it would make sense, no heat from the GPU warming up the water for the CPU.
I was wondering why also. The one core the the gpu was using would be 63-66 and the other core would be 55-57. Now both are around 55. My card was running pretty low temps, below 60. I have good airflow and my case temps are good. A little disappointed that I got the 1950pro. I didn't need that good of a card, just got it for f@h.
Well pick up an older single core CPU like an AMD 3000+ and use that to drive the X1950pro :D
No more single core for me :) Just got me a G0 Q6600. Just been messing with it for a while trying to see how far it will go. Thinking about running the smp client on it. The e6700 has been doing great with those. Maybe put it back on d2ol since the cows just dropped a 500k dump on us today :eek:
Here is what I have so far.
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4...0prmqn8.th.jpg
The quad would eat those SMPs for lunch, that's a good idea :D Especially at 3.6GHz!
I have the smp client running on the quad now. Took it down just a little. Running at 3.5. It takes less voltage and runs cooler. Temps are 47-52 across the cores. Thats cooler than my dual core!
Got an early unit end error today on the e6700. It was at 77% too :mad: Don't understand why. I've been running the smp client on it for about a week with no problems. Plus, I have been running various project on it for months will no issue. It started another wu and so far so good. It will be finished in the morning. After it is done, I am going to run another project on that rig and leave the q6600 on f@h for a while. Hoping the quad will do over 3000 a day.
Some SMP WU's are just unstable and puke out on you. Even some of the standard CPU client's WUs crap out occasionally.
Sorry to say... ocing just isn't stable enough if SMPs fails to run. Believe me, I've tough head, and I had to admit clocks were too high, counter them down eased the client :)
Somebody could say SMPs are too sensitive... I disagree.
No way I'm going to believe it's not stable. I have been running a lot of math projects on it, and those stress it the most. Just finished up another smp wu today. I think it was not a problem on my end.
Ya most likely was that particular WU
900k! :D Onward.. to the million!
Congrats! That 1m is in sight now. :up:
900K... wow.
I could really use one of those new K10 CPUs about now :D
Is there a way to somehow run a few PCs in tandem so there is 1 OS running off of say 2 machines or 4 machines, and the OS sees the machines as multiple CPUs? Kind of like a blade server maybe? I would like to connect maybe fold2 and fold4 together like that and run the SMP client through them, but I don't know if that is at all possible. Anyone have any ideas? :confused:
I'd look into beowulf clusters, might not be exactly what you're looking for but it's a start.
Thanks for that, I'm looking into it now :toast:
Beowulf clusters are generally "distributed memory" which is the opposite of "shared memory" which is what a SMP machine is. There are some software packages that you can run on a beowulf cluster that will emulate a shared memory environment, but just "beowulf" out of the box won't do what you want.
Hmm OK. After reading up on that some I'm not sure if I have the know-how to do it anyway, I'm totally a linux n00b :p:
every expert started out as a n00b. don't be scared off if it looks interesting. I kind of doubt that you will be able to get what you're after (a fake SMP), but setting up and learning to use a beowulf style machine can be fun and interesting...
Yeah it would be, and would teach me some things about linux I should really learn. Thing is I don't really want to take down 2 of my crunchers to do this with if I can't set them up as a "fake" SMP when I'm done with it, I don't think it would be worth the lost crunching time.
I have my work PC crunching while I'm there. I couldn't get the SMP client going without admin rights (don't worry, I am allowed to install a few things on this PC as long as it doesn't need admin stuff). This also means I can't get the standard CPU clients installed as a service either so it only crunches while I'm at work, which is about 15 hours a week. At that rate though it'll only be good for around 230 points for a little over 2 weeks, but it might as well do something while I'm here. It is a C2D E6300, definitely slower than my opteron 165 is at crunching this current set of WU's coming through. Then of course my opteron is overclocked and this isn't. Would be interesting to compare the two by putting my CPU back to stock and comparing folding speed.
:wtf: jimwah :eek: :cool:
I figured out why one of my crunchers kept hanging. Amazing what happens when a fan fails :p: The intake fan's bearings seized up so there was a lack of airflow in that box. Guess I shouldn't have ignored the growling sounds from it for this long :wth:
The only fan I had to replace it with is a delta 90mm... my ears are hurting! :shock2:
Hopefully a 7V mod shuts it up.
OK Team, I am gonna lay down some more minor smack talk since I have once again passed the team in ranking. I am 100% sure the team will outrank me again (I am reaching a stable point in the rankings), but by my read of the stats, unless you guys pick it up, it might take a while :) Get crackin!
I saw that... and I've been thinking about how to correct the deficiency while still offsetting my CO2 footprint. First step : I think I'll keep some C02 credits for myself this year instead of selling them all at tax time.Quote:
Originally Posted by angra
The second step is figuring out the best performance per watt and so far it looks like Quad core PC's. I'm not sure about the PS/3's as their rated at 900ppd per 200w of consumption, where it seems a quad is rated higher at slightly lower consumption (assuming a stripped quad with network boot and no video or drives).
Anyhow team we need to put in some effort, I mean that glory hog Angra being such a folding snob and all ;) .... hehehehehe
Well starting the 14th I'll be getting my cardboard army back online. My plan though is once this internship gets underway and I have more money to burn I'll upgrade my PC to something more powerful :hehe:
My crunchers don't put any out any CO2 so it doesn't bother me ;) :p: I'll run as many as I can afford to :D
I finally upgraded. FAH is compiling at about 99% on each core at 39 C.
I maybe I should overclock, but is just a file/web/dns server.
Excellent thanks for the extra points ! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by texnofobix
Now harass me some more and I'll get the 800 mhz computer up as folding only. I gotta get the harddrive recovered first.
But now I gotta go watch Leno. My favorite presidental candidate is on!
Man 1 of my DC rigs is down due HDD corruption and my other DC rig is down because I can't get SMP to work on Vista. Arrrgh!
ouch that sucks. I've never set up the SMP in vista but I've heard there is a little trick to do to get it working. Can't remember what it is though.
:hehe: :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
I'm a C2D down right now, left my old job last week & the PC that went with it. Shame 'cos that was my uptime PC too (before the project ended), I think it stayed up & folding for 100 days straight once, with me using it 9 hours a day too, not bad for an XP box imo :p:
I'll dust out an A64 or something this week & put it on the folding shelf at home to make up for it :)
Heres a few guides Twiggy:Quote:
Originally Posted by twiggy
http://www.overclockingwiki.org/foru...ead.php?t=1503
http://www.xcpus.com/forums/folding-...ion-guide.html
Regards
John.
Thank you very much! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by pythagoras
Well now my Vista box is back up, then tomorrow I'll install Vista on my other box and get that back going. My poor production.:(
Poor production? Hey now, anything and everything counts! Not like you have that poor of production right now anyway ;)
Speaking of production though, I just realized I had turned the PC on today (after high winds causing brief power outages last night and while the UPS would keep the PC running the annoying beeps it would make wasn't pleasant to try and sleep through!) but forgot to start up F@H again :doh: :shakes: THAT was brilliant :rolleyes:
We're up a spot chasing Angra and have overtaken motherboards.org Good work team! Huge effort and thanks!:clap:
:cheer: :party: :cheer: :wtf:
We Have a chance to catch him... he will stall at 58 for a little while when he overtakes that position as there's some folks coming in behind him... so let's make sure we get the chance to pick his pockets before he gets a second wind.... :D
Super consistent results by Angra, day after day... we have our work cut out for us...:cool:
I'm trying I'm trying, once I get this whole network/internet issue figured out things will be better. ;)
Gratz on hitting 62 team.. Catchin' Tom :)
I'll be keeping 2nd warm for DAK again soon.. what are you up to over there you mad professor? Turn up for a few days, fire out 50k, & then disappear! Get back here mate :up:
My SMP's are back up running solid now. In a few weeks I'm building a quadcore rig for my bro and it'll be pumping out WU's too. Also tax season it creeping up.;)
Ah yes tax season... guess I had better get that filed pretty soon here, especially the collected sales tax from the business (unless I want to pay a $10 late fee).
The new rig added to my f@h line up.:D
It'll prime for a day or so first but it should be up and crunching by tomorrow night.:yepp:
Which cooler are you using?
twiggy why aren't you using prime95 instead off four instances off orthos?
Looks like a nice unit Twig, congrats.
I don't really think prime stresses any more than Orthos really though I tend to use prime with large in place whatevers...
Orthos uses an older p95 algorithm, and if only for the ease off use off the new multithreaded prime95 I would recommend it. Small inplace FFT's heat the cpu the most btw afaik.
There has been affinity problems among people running orthos to iirc?
A Tuniq atm, waiting on the TRUE to get shipped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stijndp
Marvin, thanks for the link, I'll give it a run. I'm just using whatever proggy I had on my external HDD right now.
As for heating up the CPU the most, I'd have to say S&M it by far the most demanding CPU stresser I've seen to date. I hate that program lol.
Thanks U&G, but its not my computer. I built it for my brother but he'll let it fold. He also gave me over 900$ worth of stuff for building tho.:up:
Haven't you tried StressCPUv2 :confused:
That's worse ;) and great for (SMP-)folder testing IMO :p:
Nice rig :D
Thanks for the link scoop, I'll have to check that out.
you guys caught me again!
Well I showed my bro how badass his new computer was and he asked how I liked it lol. I told him how much it sucks going back to my measly AMD DC rig so he just overnight the same exact rig for me! :eek: :eek:
So tomorrow I'll have another C2Q rig folding. My brother is the best ever!:yepp:
Wow, that is great Twiggy :up:
And XS loves your brother :buddies: , he's now brother to all of us :D :clap: :hrhr:
@Angra... nice race going on :poke: :spill:
EDIT: Sparky: how do like SCPU?
Dude twiggy I wish I had a bro like that :slobber:
Scoop, I haven't tried it yet - I don't want to stop crunching to play with it :lol2: I'll use it in the next week or two when I am working with my *ahem* addition :hehe:
SparkyJJO, I always liked your signature untill now :D ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
lol@Marvin
We'll keep it friendly I PROMISE
but we're coming for you nonetheless :D
No need to play with it, just left it on an indefinite loop :shrug: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Yeah well, can't help it :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin_The_Martian
:rofl: fat chance of that happening! I know what you want ;) and I ain't giving it to ya that easy :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by sc00p
:shakes: :hehe: :wasntme: :moon: :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Oh darn... I'm dealing with too clever people here :ROTF:
You're pumping up the production I see! :eek:
I still ain't gonna give it to ya, not without a fight at least!
Gawd I'll be glad to get some new hardware.... This is depressing me.
I think you guys have me beat for good :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by sc00p
That is, unless a longshot thing I am working on comes to fruition. Don't ask me what, I won't jinx it :cool:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...eadscratch.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by angra
Got me curious now....
Me too!:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Good luck on whatever you doing angra.:up:
My 2nd quad is up crunching now. I'm also about to add another 2.2ghz 754 clawhammer. I'm almost up to 50ghz. The next few days my stats will go straight up.:woot:
Well, like I said, I won't jinx it by discussing.
But I am fairly certain that you clever cats can guess pretty close to the mark. :)
You just got budget approval for a 4000 core cluster? :lol:
:shrug: :wasntme:Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
But are you gonna meet Polizei :sofa: :zombie:
@Twiggy: :wtf: mate... has your brother few quads left for me too ;)
I really shouldn't go to buy more right now...
sc00p has just pooped his pants again :nuts: 4000 :p: :cheer: Only the idea of this... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey
Since this is the harassment thread, hey Sparky, lookout behind you :D
:eek: Yeah I see you :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] 4X4N
You've pumped it up as well I see. Hmm I don't think what I've got cooking is gonna push me up higher than that...
I need a quad!
I'm buying a quad Feb 21st. Right after I finish building this 5000 BE and benching it.
I just put together a Q6600 @ 3.6ghz for folding, so right now I have 2 quads on f@h. I'm using linux for the new one, and I'm learning how it works. Definitely crunches wu's faster than windows. Once I get it set up how I want I'll switch my main rig back to WCG. But for now the 2 quads put out some good numbers. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
//starts browsing newegg looking at quads....
Well OK scoop you're gonna have your way. I bought an X2 4200+ with a busted pin to fix and drop in fold6 for the SMP client but after putting new pins on it the CPU is still dead as a doornail :(
When you do crunch me, please don't leave me too bruised ;)
We'll have to make a group purchase on some quads Spark.
How many are needed for a group purchase though to get any sort of discount?
The prices listed by Intel are /1000. So you'll need to find 1000buyers if you feel up to it. I think it is still $266.000/1.000 for a Q6600 at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
1000? Forget that lol. I can get a Q6600 G0 from newegg for $260. Well, can't afford it though but it is there anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stijndp
It could allready be lower, I can't find any recent prices. At launch mid 2007 it was $266 for a batch of 1000cpu's.Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
For a batch of OEM's it's probably also lower. Who hasn't a box of spare 775 coolers at home?:ROTF:
I'm sure we can buy less than 1000 :)
First of all, sorry folks about my absence for a few days... just very short lurking has been able to do...
I might give you a A64 3500+ (or something like, I've had it lying somewhere few months), but no idea if it's in shape.Quote:
Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
Sorry to hear mate about that X2...
...but, if you guys buy few Qs, put one aside for me too :p: :D