P@N,
try setting the RAM timings manually according to specification and it should boot then.
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P@N,
try setting the RAM timings manually according to specification and it should boot then.
Okay, I have set my memory to manufactor specs : 4-4-4-12 1t @ 400mhz.
But I don't know the advanced memory timings, like trrd, trc etc, these settings are still set auto
Are you using the black RAM slots? Tried 2T?
This http://rv.page.cegetel.net.perso.ceg...t/MemSet31.zip will give you most of the mem sub timings. These are my bios settings for system in sig:Quote:
Originally Posted by P@N
Bios 0202
Voltage Control
V core Voltage: 1.4625
Memory Voltage: 2.08
NB Core Voltage: 1.748
V core Offset: Auto
FSB & Memory Config
FSB Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
FSB QDR: 1632
Actual FSB: 1632
Memory DDR: 816
Actual Memory DDR: 816
Memory Timing
4,4,4,12 1 clock All Sub Timings set to Auto
Ram in Black Slots
I have to put the volts to the NB core for it to boot at 400FSB or above with 4,4,4,12 1t and the tight auto sub timings. Without at least 1.56 to NB it want boot. I took off NB heatsink reapplied artic ceramique and replaced push pins with small screws and nuts with plastic washers on back of board. Now its held down tight with good contact. Added a 60mm fan just by screwing long sheet metal screws between the heastsink fins, or you can hot glue it. This is whats working for me, just thought I would share.
Ok, I have retrieved the advanced memory timings with memset and set them into the bios. I also set all of the cpu functions in cpu configuration to disabled. (black slots are used)
Tried to run 1200 (qdr) 800 (mem) with a multiplier of 9 @ 1,45 vcore and 1,593 vmch it boots and crashes while loading windows. Increasing voltage had no effect, also tried to lower the qdr from 1200 to 1100; this resulted in a no boot ... When rebooted with CPR I couldn't run 1200/800 anymore ...
Turned down the system for a while, and then I could boot with 1200/800 ...
So I can overclock for a little bit now , but it seems my northbridge gets too hot, I can't even touch the heatsink with my fingers.
I already applied artic silver on the northbridge and a zalman nb47j to the southbridge, It seems I still need to add a fan for the northbridge ...
FYI... anyone that wants to know, the 0401bios didn't fixt the 7950GX2 compatibility problem... still doesn't work in this mobo :(
@ P@N Yes a fan on the NB heatsink is a must. The fact that it is heating up means its transferring heat efficiently. Mine without fan gets real hot real fast, but with a good 60mm fan its only warm to the touch.
Okay now I've mounted a 12 cm fan on the heatsink :) And all the heat is gone ... hehehe
Its currently running orthos at 1200 (qdr) /800 (mem) at standard vcore and a vmch of 1,563.
So hopefully it can do much more.
btw. the cpu is watercooled and there was no airflow on the heatsink. so that's why the heatsink even got hotter.
Thanks to Ron61 and Vasko for your help ! :toast: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Official Bios 0307 is out. "Enhance compatibility with certion memory." http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Language=en-us. Too late to try tonight but I'l give it a try tommorow.
what does "certion" mean? Maybe they mean "certain".. well, hope theres no spelling errors in the bios itself, eventhough that would explain alot ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron 61
I read on Asus forum, people have problem with this BIOS (0307). One of the guy had it fix by removing battery - reset BIOS .......
Why not trying 0401 if you know it works for others? :D
well, the 0401-bios still doesnt solve the 1T "problem".. Has anyone tried 1T with the 0307 bios?
What's this so called "1T - problem", because I can run 1T on bios 0202 ...
command per clock can't be set to 1T. I have this problem w/ Ballistix PC2-6400 (runs fine at 1T in a P5-B DLX), even at lower than 400mhz mem settings. Randomn BSOD's.
Thanks for pointing out the bios update. Can't wait to get home from work now.
OK, please help me here guys. I'm getting pissed @ my P5B-DLX motherboard and am looking @ getting this board. I have a E6600 and OC it to 3.54GHz on my P5B. Would this board be a good board to have my OC on, and support a 8800GTS? What im saying is, will this board OC as well as my P5B? I would love to have the SLi option for future use, but dont want to spend 250+ dollars for the 680i boards. Thanks
@ sbinh I was just getting the word out that there is a newer bios posted at asus site. There is already a post in the asus forum that 0307 is bad. The post says he can't get into the bios set up screen, but it will boot into windows, which is totally useless. So its probably better to hold off on this 0307 til more people try it, unless you have nothing to loose. Im stable with 0202 but I was hoping that the new bios would relax the memory auto sub timings. Memset shows most but not all of them. The 1T problem that some people have is most likely caused buy the tight memory sub timings.
@newls This board with e6600/xeon 3060 and g skill HZ seems to be a good combination. I had no problem getting to 3.67ghz 408 FSB 4,4,4,12 1T. I stopped at 3.67 because the sub timings are so tight that it requires 2.5 volts to mem to be stable at 423 FSB 4,4,4,12 1t. I haven't took the time to try to figure out the timings. The board works well with sli. I score well over 11,000 3DMark06 with 2 7900GT's @ 691/801. I have had no stability problems.
OMG, this board seems like it is unbelievable....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron 61
I flashed to 0401 and the only difference in 0202 and 0401 that I can find is that 401 adds the sli-ready memory option. The mem sub timings that memset shows are exactly the same as in the 202 bios. Ran SPi 1m, 4m, 32m and the times are the same. If there were any changes to any hidden memory sub timings it would show up in SPi times so 401 is just 202 with the sli-ready memory option. Anybody else try the 307?
Added waterblock to NB, additional cooling seems to have helped things a fair bit. Can't say 100% as the crucial wasn't 1T tested under stock NB cooling, but seems to be higher FSB than others can make using stock sinks and 6600/crucial anni combo :)
Can anyone else confirm the same?
http://drunken-student.co.uk/pics/pc...T_test_449.JPG
I don't know about Crucial (and other brands), but with OCZ (gold XTC) I was able to run at 1T with stock cooling on NB (up to 425-FSB).
IMO, I like P5B-Dlx than this board .. except for the SLI option. With P5B-Dlx (same CPU, RAM, cooling, PSU ...) FSB can go up to 475 (tested).
Coming a little late to the party but I have a P5N-E board and e4300 sitting at home in the box. Awaiting RAM which won't come till next week. I am matching the board and CPU with 2x1024MB of Corsair XMS DDR2 800 4/4/4/12 RAM. I will be running a watercooling setup with a 1/2" loop on the CPU and the NB and Swiftech 159 on SB.. A single 8800GTS which arrives next week tops it off. All going into a Lian Li 7077A with a PC P&C Silencer 750 PSU. The beauty of this is that except for the CPU and mobo everything is used or traded and my old gear should cover the bulk of the cost of the rest.
My plan was to set it up on the bench, flash to 0302 and then load XP on a RAID 0 array with latest Nvidia drivers. If it all looks stable I'll install it in the case on water. After reading thorughthis thread I am a little lost. So, my questions are:
1. Should I leave the BIOS at 0202 or go 0307? How about 0401?
2. I'm an AMD guy so what is an acceptable Vcore on th e4300? Is 1.6v safe.
3. The reason i am concerned with #2 above is the Vcore droop reported on this board. Is it as bad as reported (BTW I don't use Probe, I use Everest Ultimate)
I know on my A8N32 you must have CPU Overvolt enabled to get a stable Vcore. With water there shouldn't be any problem overvolting the NB which seems to be necessary for this board. Any other things I should do to get a good OS load and avoid any issues such as driver problems etc.?
TIA for any info.
Asus took down the 0307 bios and now has 0401 posted. Totally useless because its basically 0202 with a different number. Here is the description:
P5N-E SLI BIOS Release Version 0401.
1.Reduce S3 resuming time.
2.Change CopyRight year from 2006 to 2007.
As you can see Asus addressed the most pressing issues. I think I'l sleep better knowing the copyright year has been updated.
I finally got over 500 FSB with this board. Changed the CPU to a x68 and there it was. I think my old E66 was reached a FSBwall there around 487. MaxFSB now seems to be around 510
http://www.bandwidth.se/imgs/16/27/5...m800_spi32.gif
Thanks Ron, I'll redo my floppyQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron 61
Anyone played around with the SLI memory option in the bios and found it useful??
Actually I was being sarcastic about the 401 because the only real difference I can see is that it has the sli-ready memory option. Im using the 401 beta thats been floating around a few days. Maybe I should flash to the official 401 just to make sure they are the same. 419 FSB 1:1 4,4,4,12 1T 3769Mhz is the best stable overclock I can do so far. At 423FSB I get errors in memtest no matter what the voltage. I get better performance at 3.67Ghz 408 FSB mem 408 4,4,4,12 1T than I do at 3.8Ghz 475FSB mem 475 4,4,4,12 2T. I just wish I could see all of the memory sub timings the bios auto assigns. This is still a very good board for the money. @ John44 I don't have sli memory so I can't say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Merc14
It looked like, as I was going through the manual, that all the settings for RAM became avaiable when unlinked was selected. The big drawback is there are only three dividers but then you can change the QDR speed etc.etc. :rolleyes: I am in sponge mode.
I have a steep learning curve ahead coming from a strictly AMD background. I can overclock them in my sleep but Intel is a whole different animal. The last Intel I O/Ced was a P4 Northwood on air. Very nice chip BTW.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Highland3r
that sure is an awesome 1T clock, I've changed the NB cooled to a Noctua heatpipe thingie but that didn't make a diff, eventhough temp got lower. It still maxes out around 365. What bios are you using?
Pretty sure it's not maxed there too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by zeeke
Bios is whatever came with the board, 0202 i belive :)
Have you tried MemSet 3.1 It will show all the sub timings in Windowshttp://rv.page.cegetel.net.perso.cegetel.net/MemSet.zipQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron 61
Memset shows most but not all of them. I just wish the bios would show what they are auto set to.Quote:
Originally Posted by John44
Hmm, that is just strange.. I mean, my board is memtest #5 stable for hours @ 366mhz But get 1000+ errors @ 367. Im startin to think this is a bios limitation..Quote:
Originally Posted by Highland3r
At certain frequencies the bios changes "straps", which leads to a whole slew of timing changes that you don't see. Other times there are holes in the frequencies that just don't work right for anyone. Try 368 or 370 and just skip over 367. Alsoyou might need a little more juice going to the northbridge.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeeke
Quote:
Originally Posted by dlxmax
The straps are for the FSB, not memory speed. And NB-voltage doesn't make a difference. I'll try a bigger leap though and see what happens
Guys, we all know this board has a big vDroop problem, and some members are working on a cure. But right now we need some help. We need someone with a multimeter to take a couple of measurements to backup someone else's findings. I left my multimeter in 'merica, so I can't help. But can you?
Visit the thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...96#post1968396
Oh, and zeeke, I've read on another thread (at AnandTech) that people have acheived greater memory speeds with increased NB voltage; bump it up to 1.39v. Also try lower/raising your mem voltage. Yes, lowering sometimes works better. I've had my mem up to 1050 and it's just some non-Micron SuperTalent PC6400 memory.
Try and set memory and FSB speeds (when running unlinked) to end in 2,4,6 or 8. These seem to help on the stability front. Also double check your memory speeds. You may find setting 366 unlinked doesn't give you 366 "real", 367 then moves you up to the next divider.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeeke
What ram/setup you running btw?
<edit> Guessing from sig its the Team stuff? shouldnt have a problem at that speed, where's your CPU running? Assume your using 2T timings and 2+v on vDimm? </edit>
dlxmax: its not the memoryspeed im trying to increase per se, these puppies do well over 500 with 4-4-4-10-2T on this board, I want to increase the 1T max.
I'll have a look at those measuements when i get home from work, personally I haven't experienced the droop as bad as coupli. Last night I measures vdrop during 2x32mb Spi and with 1.57V idle it drops to 1.53V-1.54V during full load. That is real though, the probe is showing ~1.3-something.
Yeah its the team mem, but its the 1T i want to increase as staded before. @2T these mem do over 500 easy @ 2.4V (real), 2.3 chosen from bios, but the board seems to overvolt the mems a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Highland3r
Oh, another thing Ive found ut, the vdrop for the CPU is worse with the +100mV option enabled.
Chipset voltage and cooling may help you out there then. Stick it up to 1.75v option and see if you can push any further.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeeke
Gskill kit (6400 C4) maxed at 422 fsb 1T, more voltage, looser timings etc didnt help. The crucial seem's to run MUCH better under the same conditions.
You have to up the volts to northbridge if you want higher fsb 1T. Anything above 400 fsb 4,4,4,12 1T on my board requires 1.74v. Ive ran 1.74v on mine for a month. Currently benching at 423fsb.
I am running NB @ 1.74V still doesnt matter,
Highland3er-
Are you using the CPU overvolt option or do you have it disabled? On the A8N32 SLI, CPU Overvolt stabilizes the voltage and I was assuming it was the same on this board.
zeeke try different fsb, mine will not boot at 412, but will run prime at 413. You may be trying to boot in a dead area of fsb.
Didnt seem to make much difference either way. Usually run it to try and compensate for the vdroop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Merc14
Quote:
Originally Posted by zeeke
Zeeke,
Not all RAM can run at 1T ... I had Corsair XMS2 PC2-6400 (2x512) .. I cannot set it to 1T; however, I have had no problem with my OCZ XTC Gold RAM.
You might want to change TRc .. it might help to run at 1T ... :D
Yup. I've not found any setting that worked at 1T with my mem either. Some say the bios settings are too aggressive to allow a lot of mem that would run at 1T on other boards to run at 1T on this board. Perhaps a future bios will fix this. Until then, be with me at 2T ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sbinh
Try stepping over 400 - 424 and jump to 425 426 FSB for 1T I have found that I can run timings at 4-3-3-9-1-2T and get pretty much the same performance as 4-4-4-12-1-1T
EDIT: I think cooling is the biggest issue with this board especially the NB. Last night I opened my window and let the cold air drift into the box and was able to reach my best OC with .05 less vcore set at 1.475 (usally 1.52) and the NB at 1.56 (usally 156 - Max) and I seemed a hell of lot more stable.
http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?i...uz485x83on.jpg
This is a compare between different memspeeds, all other settings kept the same. It doesn't really make a difference, atleast not in 3dmark06, Superpi is a whole other beast though..
http://www.bandwidth.se/imgs/16/17/4...110918.gif.jpg
Any new beta's out??? I need my 7950 working :P
Here is something I posted on another forum. I know its about the P5B but, it looks like Asus is probably doing it with all its boards. If this topic has been discussed before please excuse my post.
Here is proof of what I was talking about last night about your Multiplier Default vs the Multiplier Set. Both screenshots are at 300FSB now if you multiply the FSB x 4 it should be 1200. Right? Well here is what you get Notice the FSB speed I have underlined in red
Multiplier Default http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ra8x300la9.jpg
Multiplier Set http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ra7x300td0.jpg
Here is the Formula Default Multiplier / Multiplier Set X FSB = FSB speed
Here is the link to that Article http://www.thetechrepository.com/sho...hp?p=32#post32
Scroll down aways till he talks about the Multiplier Default vs the Multiplier Set
I recieved my P5N-E SLI last night. At first I was having nothing but problems with the thing. It was failing over stock everything. Haven't done much for CPU clocking yet. Have the ram running stable @ 4-3-3-3-2T @ 400 so far though.
I've finally got my P5N-E / e6600 / Ballistix DDR2-1000 built. Let me first say that I'm not much interested in wringing out every ounce of performance out of the machine, instead looking for a solid gaming system I don't have fight on a regular basis. That said, I was out to achieve a modest overclock of 3.0 GHz (which ought to satisfy me enough... for now).
I've added a 60mm Vantec Stealth fan to the NB, and a Zalman heatsink to the SB. I've got a Thermalright Ultra-90 w/ Panaflo 92mm fan on the CPU, and I've got good cooling through my case. It took a few tweaks but here's what I ended up with. Thought I'd get some opinions on whether you guys (likely more experienced w/ overclocking) think it looks OK for 24/7 use or if there's anything that needs attention.
FSB @ 1333
CPU @ 9x multiplier
NB @ 1.39v
Vcore @ 1.35 (1.36 in Windows, 1.296-1.312 at load - stupid vdroop)
= 2.999 GHz
Ballistix set at DDR2-800 @ 4-4-4-12-2T
Vdimm @ 2.178
(will likely try to push these up to rated DDR2-1000 @ 5-5-5-15-2T soon, although I'll be interested to see if there's any real performance difference)
I ran Orthos small FFT against the CPU for over an hour and then the blend for another hour. Temps stay under 40* for CPU, and MB shows around 33-34*.
My only concerns are the vdroop (although I don't want to perform the physical mod to the board to overcome it), and I didn't think it'd take 1.35v vcore to get to 3.0 GHz (1.325v fails Orthos almost immediately on Core1, so I probably need to try the voltages between 1.325 and 1.35). Everything else seems to be running okay. I'm pretty pleased with a 1M SuperPi time of ~17 sec.; my last PC took > 45 sec.! :woot:
Any thoughts? Certainly appreciate all the friendly help and info here!
I think that the general consensus now is that that's just a problem with the way most apps measure CPU speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by John44
CPUZ is always right.
Quote:
Originally Posted by couppi
my thoughts too. Same thing happened with my 630 & P5LD2 when i lowered the multi too.
So far I've been about to hit 3.3GHz with an E4300,367FSB and about 3.4GHz with an E6400, 425FSB. Still testing though.
im still chugging along 24/7 at the speeds in my sig.
:devil:
Can someone recommend a better northbridge cooler for this board? I'm getting one on tuesday and have no desire to kill it thru a cooked northbridge... I'm in England so would rather it be from an English retailer...
Many thanks
Dubz
This is only the case for Intel chipset shod boards (ie 965 and 975). Pretty sure this doesn't affect the Nvidia boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by John44
It's also ALL 965/975 boards, not just asus ones :)
Regarding chipset cooler, the stock sinks fine if you add a fan over it :) See how you get on with clocking first, if you find you need more FSB and you've maxed the chipset voltage then maybe look to a new cooler :)
Where abouts in Leeds are you Highlander? Might be able to meet up for a beer.... :P
I am using a Noctua NH-06, well i think that is what it is called :). It seems to do the job quite nicely.Quote:
Originally Posted by P-Dub
Anyways the highest FSB i was able to pull was 520 with this board, not to bad for the price :)
Near City center mate, LS6 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by P-Dub
is there anyone using team 4-4-4-10 on the P5N-E SLI ? if yes could you tell me what speeds u are getting.
thanks
I am using Team Group PC2-6400 4-4-4-10 with mine. Haven't done max FSB testing yet. But 400Mhz 4-3-3-3-2T was stable. Currently trying 500MHz 5-4-5-10-2T. I am sure it will do more but won't take the ram over 2.2V.
i have mine running @ 453 4-4-4-10 with 2.2voltsQuote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
e6400@3.4 with 1.38volts
I am up to 5-4-4-4 @ 500MHz, 2.2V 1:1 32M stable.
nice! how about your E6400? are you clocking through the bios or windows? if windows what program are u usingQuote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
I only clock through bioses. as for CPU speed I can go to 3.6GHz, but with a little too much voltage than i'd like. 3.5GHz is pretty stable with 1.5Vcore set in bios. That is what i will likely use for 24/7.
Ok, i finally got the mem over 365 in 1T, had to push the FSB over 425mhz to get the next strap, but still. well, seems like 400 is doable, goes up to 405 but thats its.
http://bandwidth.se/imgs/16/27/3e2bbf16-1t_cpu3700.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by zeeke
Try 412 I had good luck there and its before the strap change
1648 rated FSB that is, and mem over 400 I guess?
You guys are going to think I'm nuts. Last night for the heck of it I put my new ram PC8500C5 DDR2 1066 in the yellow slots I had been running them in the black slots thinking I would have the best performance there. The best I was doing was 1020 -1030MHz and 1040 would crash. After changing them to the yellow slots I can easily run 1066MHz on Auto or manual in the bios. Temps and voltages were lower across the board too. Now, I have always been able to use the yellow slots from day one and have had all four slots filled ( 512x4 ) till I received this new ram ( 1024x2 ) so this my not apply to you. I am just wondering if any one else has switched back to the yellow slots since upgrading to 0401. There seems there could be a little better voltage control or a remedy to this yellow slot syndrome.
This I posted in another forum
Update: SLI Memory Option in the bios For all of you lucky enough to have SLI Certified Memory its worth giving it a try. The bios will read the information on the chip and will set your ram to run at its optimal performance. I said the other day that if you choose to enable this you would not have full control of the FSB and Memory speed. I was wrong ( I am learning this too. )all you have to do is select EXPERT in that option and you can change settings as you please. Experiment with full auto and manual settings for your ram and let me know if this improves performance
Sorry, ZeekeQuote:
Originally Posted by zeeke
Yes, 1648. You can try your memory over 400. The best I could do so far was this http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?i...555151tgr2.jpg but, all I was getting is errors if I try to run Super Pi. 1648/824 might be doable. If you have problems loosen up on the timings a little
That is a total nogo for me.. the best bandwidth is 3-3-3-5-1T @ 365 anyhow. My rams wont go higher with cl3 @2.4V. I havent really tried harder, that is for another day of benchin :)
this looks like the "best bang for the buck"
Can anyone give me a step by step guide f how to overclock on this board please. Ive been lookingbut cant find alot of info.
If any of u have MSN or the likes, can i have you email so you can help me through IM?
you guys weren't lying when you said the chipset runs hot. I never used the stock one. When i purchased it it went straight to a NH-06, with a 120mm fan blowing over it. I had the fan unhooked for about 2 minutes, and the sink was at least 60C when i touched it.
My 8800GTS arrived today, so now I am just waiting on the RAM which is scheduled to arrive on Tuesday. This rig will be comprised of he following:
e4300 - OEM cooler for now
P5N-E SLI - OEM cooling for now
Corsair DDR2 800 RAM (4-4-4-12 1T 2.1v)
XFX 8800GTS
2x80GB RAID 0 array
PC P&C 750 Silencer
My plan is to assemble everything on a bench (RAM in yellow slots) and after intial boot, flash to 0401 BIOS. After a good flash (from floppy) I'll load a slipstreamed XP (RAID drivers from the mobo CD) load on a 10GB partition and then install 8.26 chipset driver and 97.92 (8800 series) vid driver in a separate partition.
This, from everything I have read here, should be stable.
The case won't be ready for a few days so just light overclocking till I get everything on water in the new case.
Does anyone have anything to add to the above or warn me about?
lowfat, do you have any pics of your setup? (inside)
sure..Quote:
Originally Posted by james111
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...nternals-1.jpg
I seem to be stuck at a fsb of 1368 fsb with nb @ 1,7v ...with nb @ 1,5v I can reach 1333 fsb. Howcome you are all reaching 1600+ ?
e4300
gskill 1gb x2 GBNZ 5-5-5-12 -2t
northbridge has been equipped with artic silver 5 and a 12 cm fan blowing on it
southbridge has been equipped with artic silver 5 and a zalman nb47j
Nice... i'd like to have Xeon core!
E4300s seem to have a FSB wall. I couldn't take my E4300 higher than 367FSB. Yet i can do 520FSB with the same system & E6400.
I am running an e6300 and so far have hit 500fsb (3500MHz) by setting all voltages to auto. While using the 0202 bios i was only able to get maybe 450 or so regardless of bios settings.
I hit 486FSB with Bios rev 202Quote:
Originally Posted by Sickapotamus
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6...403mhz1Mpi.png
I just flashed it to 401 today. I guess I might have a go at getting over 500FSB.
Thats with the stock northbridge cooler only running at 1.563v :)
I just had the strangest crash... The system was running 3000 mhz (9x333), which was tested orthos stable for 12 + hours. And just while I was browsing in Internet Explorer it freezed. Trying to reboot gave me a black screen and only the lights of the hd and system were on.
So I thought resetting the bios would do the trick and it did, however when I enter the bios to adjust only the time and date and then save and reboot; it gave me a black screen again ....
I'm thinking my bios is somewhat messed up .... :(
Any thoughts?
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Okay just tried reflashing my bios back to 0202 and I can get into the bios and save the time and date, however when I try overclocking it to 1333 (qdr)fsb it will save those setting but still boot up as standard. Also when rebooting from windows the system will show a black screen and nothing more ....
I have the E4300 and P5N-E SLI at 100% oc,easy.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3...re33tu5.th.jpg
The CPu make 3200Mhz with 1´3375 Vcore.
What method are you using to flash bios. I have used the bios flash utility twice without problems. I also shut down just after flash and clear cmos before first boot into bios. Sounds like either your bios is corrupted or could be NB is to hot or not enough volts to NB.Quote:
Originally Posted by P@N
The bios 0401 was on the board when the crash occured. 0401 was flashed with the bios method.
Since the bios method couldn't downgrade to 0202 I inserted the driver cd and flashed 0202 from dos. Instead of all white blocks (meaning succesful flash), there were 2 block with a light blue color (meaning skipped). (this was withn awdflash utility)
Because It still acted weird, like: overclocked in bios, but still booting with standard settings. I flashed 0202 again, this time from within the bios.
The NB has a 12 cm fan blowing on it and after every flash I cleared the cmos with the jumper and without the battery.
Now it still acts weird, and I can only get into windows at standard clock ...:(
So I finally got all the pieces together and set this thing up on the bench. Booted fine with RAM in yellow slots. Set BIOS and rebooted with Awdflash/0401.BIN floppy and flashed to that right off. Disabled all the unnecessaries in BIOS and loaded XP (slipstreamed) onto a RAID 0 array. Rebooted and loaded the chipset and display driver and checked CPUz. The Corsair RAM is running right at SPD speeds 400MHz 55514 1T. EPP is 44412 but I haven't played with that yet.
This is about as far as I can go till I get the case modded and put all the watercooling gear in but here is the system to date. :eek:
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1...0232nx5.th.jpg
Yeah its a mess but don't laugh, I have built 4 rigs on this little bench setup with an ESD pad installed. I'll load virus and all the garbage on there so it will be ready to go whan the case is set up.
This was a completely troublefree install. So far I am prettty happy. I can't patch XP yet as the same load is on my Opte 165 system. One thing i noticed is that the chipsets are hot, ver yhot, even at stock everything. If you aren't cooling both of these chipsets then I can guarantee you will have problems with even a little overclocking.
WORD OF CAUTION! my first board arrived DOA, that's not the caution. second board came, threw in my patriot 2x1gb ddr2 800, did burn in test 12 hours fine. went to load win xp, blue screens and lockups all over place. tested mem again and dimm 1 failed, dimm 2 fine. took out dimm 1, left dimm 2 in black slot where it was. loaded xp, then during driver installs lockups and blue screens again. test mem, dimm 2 now bad! i have no doubt this board fried my mem. i've used these same patriot sticks in at least 5 other builds and never a problem, now to have both sticks bad??!! all voltages were on auto, as i didn't even oc this thing a bit. i haven't seen anyone else post this problem in this thread, so maybe i'm just the lucky 1, but just saying watch out!
Let the board cool off and test your memory in the yellow slots. The NB needs a fan on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by burn what?
Thanks Burn What, I'll watch it. As I said I won't do any O/Cing or burn in till I have waterblocks on both chipsets and the CPU. This is my fourth Asus board and it is a lot different than any I have ever owned. I think that it can safely be used as an everyday board for an internet surfer type but I believe that this is a stripped down, enthusiast board that you are expected to put aftermarket cooling on and use to overclock. I bought it because I don't need chipset heatpipes, two NICs and LEDs. I wanted a no frills, stripped down model that did the basics but would O/C a CPU. The 800MHz FSB and the 9x multi make this a nice catch since I can put relatively cheap DDR2 800 RAM on it. I may be full of it since I haven't done any work with this PCB but I have high hopes. The only thing I dislike is the 4 phase power and the resultant droop that has to be accounted for. I should be up and running by early next week.
i just recovered my rig from the same problem i think. i even had little stability at the stock clock speeds. i thought i may have fried the cpu or the nb.Quote:
Originally Posted by P@N
to fix the problem i cleared the cmos then removed the cmos battery and unplugged the power supply cord and even removed the cpu (for some reason removing the cpu forces a reset on some motherboards. not sure if it helped or not on this one.) after that i let the machine sit for about 12 hours to be sure all settings were completely cleared. after that i put the cmos battery back in, put my thermal goop & heat sink etc. back on, plugged it in and.....it's stable at 450fsb 800mem so far. it seems the instability problems are gone now.
P.S. use caution when setting the voltages to auto at high overclocks! the cpu voltage went as high as 1.47v on my machine! i was 8 hrs prime stable at 500fsb 820mem and after i shut off my machine and turned it on the next day i had all sorts of instability problems until i did the above to fix it.
i had a fan on NB but not SB. unbelievable that not even a heat sink on the SB. i tried this board cause gbyte ds3 doesn't always hold the oc during a cold boot, but it's rock solid and cheaper now than this board. going back to ds3, hope they fix that cold boot issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by John44
This is an exception but not having decent coolers on the chipsets is a plus for me. I didn't have to pay for something that I was going to remove anyways. I have waterblocks for both the NB and SB since my present board is an A8N32 SLI Deluxe mounted in a Lian Li V1000 case which means it is upside down and the heatpipe doesn't work very well. Hopefully I get the new case modded and everything set up this weekend.
Here's something worth mentioning that may also help when you can't boot. It works great for tweaking. Its from dlxmax
Some people are complaining about the CMOS reset. I haven't reset the CMOS since I learned two better techniques.
1) Hit the reset button a couple times in quick sucession. Often than will cause it to boot up.
2) Keep the battery out. If you want to save your bios settings, use "ASUS O.C. Profile" tool to write it directly to the NVRAM of the bios. Then start to tweak. If you can't post, just hit the power switch on the power supply. Keep it off for 5-10 seconds and the CMOS will corrupt, causing you to post with default settings when you power up. Then you can reload your basic bios settings profile from the NVRAM. Put the battery back in when you find a stable clock and load your settings from the OC profile.
i agree that using that method while finding your max o.c. is a great idea. i once had a bios corrupted from a battery with too little voltage. when i tried to save settings and the battery didn't have the power.....well instantly corrupt bios.
thats too bad you guys are having these problems.
i have not had one problem since day 1.
but i refuse to update the bios from 0202. after seeing what you guys are saying about this crap, i definately can find no reason to update.
475x8 24/7 is fine with me. ram at 1050mhz 5-4-4-12
i think you should just go back to 0202 and see what happens.
With that configuration (475x8)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
¿what speed marks coretemp to you?