Commando Results by Tony and Andre (and others...)

I'm still messing around trying to get this board running nice, clockgen keeps hardlocking the PC no matter what which is making life difficult, but it will boot to windows at 9 x 400 2:3 DDR2 1200 - 1066 strap no problem.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...FA22/600-a.png

Very nice. Compared to P5B:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...6001Msmall.jpg

The big question (at least for me :D ) is what happens with 4/5 divider and about 450 FSB. Could you please run that at multi 8 or 9?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/4-5.jpg

Too bad clockgen isnt working. Curious how far you can get booting at 400 and cg up using 4/5 divider. Thanks for testing.

Can someone please confirm if this board operates as two x8 pci express slots or one x16 and the other x4 when two cards are slotted in.

Thanks.

James.

0.02Vdroop here (IDLE/LOAD)

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Originally Posted by loc.o

The big question (at least for me :D ) is what happens with 4/5 divider and about 450 FSB. Could you please run that at multi 8 or 9?

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460x8 with 4:5 divider work, but 465 wont boot :( (mem do 600Mhz without problems)

http://freenet-homepage.de/chris0707...1/Teiler-1.jpg

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Originally Posted by Dani

0.02Vdroop here (IDLE/LOAD)

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same here, but with droop mod only 0.005v :)

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Originally Posted by loc.o

The big question (at least for me :D ) is what happens with 4/5 divider and about 450 FSB. Could you please run that at multi 8 or 9?

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Here you go:-

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...450x84-51m.png
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...50x84-532m.png

Obviously it's just a fresh install of windows and no sub-timings or additional windows tweaks have been made.

tomorow , we are going to test one , With 6600 , ~600fsb capable , and under 3stages phase change (made by skirms) and ln2. :banana:

Did anyone try +500fsb?
Mine can't do.. 1:1

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Originally Posted by matinez

Did anyone try +500fsb?
Mine can't do.. 1:1

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500FSB @ lowest voltages in Bios

http://www.muenster.de/~e30pics/Bild...-1/Prime-2.jpg

max. with the X6800 is 530FSB :(

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Originally Posted by jsbond007

Can someone please confirm if this board operates as two x8 pci express slots or one x16 and the other x4 when two cards are slotted in.

Thanks.

James.

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I'm also curious how the other x16 slot performs... I want to use a graphics card in the primary x16 slot and an Areca RAID card in the other slot... hoping it will run x16 on the primary and x4 (or x8) on the secondary.

Can anyone confirm by spec or BIOS, the x16 slot options for this board?

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by HermS

Here you go:-

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Obviously it's just a fresh install of windows and no sub-timings or additional windows tweaks have been made.

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Thank you for testing. Seems right on par with P5B.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...-5x8spi1Ms.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...5x8spi32Ms.jpg

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Originally Posted by virtualrain

I'm also curious how the other x16 slot performs... I want to use a graphics card in the primary x16 slot and an Areca RAID card in the other slot... hoping it will run x16 on the primary and x4 (or x8) on the secondary.

Can anyone confirm by spec or BIOS, the x16 slot options for this board?

Thanks!

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Thanks for asking, that's exactly what I want to know too and exactly the same reason why! The manual says the second slot is for graphics wth Crossfire support and says nothing about other types of PCIe cards. Without any PCIe x1 slots, only PCI, if you can't add any other PCIe devices it'll be practically unique for a new mainboard, very odd indeed. :confused:

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Originally Posted by jsbond007

Can someone please confirm if this board operates as two x8 pci express slots or one x16 and the other x4 when two cards are slotted in.

Thanks.

James.

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http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?m...3&l2=11&l3=307

This is my result with my new Asus Commando and E6600:


Pippo369 Asus Commando+E6700ES:

450: http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/668/450xb2.th.jpg 470: http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6629/470lc8.th.jpg 490: http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3014/4901ec1.th.jpg
510: http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/1361/510fx4.th.jpg 530: http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2388/5301bx6.th.jpg 550: http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8/5501ps8.th.jpg
570:http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/773/570yl9.th.jpg 580:http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6793/580la5.th.jpg

revie result: http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/626/resultbt7.th.jpg

3DMARK 2003 :http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2...andofz2.th.jpg

Thats good work Pippo, what NB and VFSB voltage did you use for that?

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Originally Posted by Pt1t

tomorow , we are going to test one , With 6600 , ~600fsb capable , and under 3stages phase change (made by skirms) and ln2. :banana:

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Pt1t it's tomorrow already :woot: where are you :fact: :fact: :fact: :D

anyone else having trouble using clockgen.....i know HermS has some issues

Nice job pippo369 :eek: :clap:

pippo369 nice work.

What kind of cooling and what kind of memory?

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Originally Posted by dinos22

anyone else having trouble using clockgen.....i know HermS has some issues

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What kind of issue :confused:
..everything works fine for me :)

For the U.S buyers eWiz.com has this Asus Commando for $215. :) compare to Zipzoomfly list as $299 & back order
Not sure if it's typo on the price or not, but I ordered once.

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=MB-...b5c5f1b2fed520

ewiz doesn't actually have it in stock, and when they do get it in stock with will be a few days after other e-tailers get it. My friend tried to order his 8800GTX from them and they were tricky like that. They list it as in stock to see how many people buy it and to estimate popularity...

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Originally Posted by HermS

Thats good work Pippo, what NB and VFSB voltage did you use for that?

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This is my setting for suite test:
http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?i...sc02708yz0.jpg http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?i...sc02709uv4.jpg

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pippo369 nice work.

What kind of cooling and what kind of memory?

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Look my signature.
Bye!

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What kind of issue :confused:
..everything works fine for me :)

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Yeah, I'm using the same PLL as with the P5B, but sometimes even moving 1MHz from stable settings will hard lock, other times it works and then sometimes it won't even read the clocks... wierd stuff man.:slapass: I'm gonna try setFSB and see how that fares.


@ pippo, thanks for the screenies mate :toast:

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Originally Posted by HermS

Yeah, I'm using the same PLL as with the P5B, but sometimes even moving 1MHz from stable settings will hard lock, other times it works and then sometimes it won't even read the clocks... wierd stuff man.:slapass: I'm gonna try setFSB and see how that fares.


@ pippo, thanks for the screenies mate :toast:

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De Nada!!

For those of you in the US, I just ordered one from ewiz.com for the decent price of 215.

vDROOPed my Commando, now its 0.001V (Idle vs. Load) :D

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Originally Posted by HermS

I'm still messing around trying to get this board running nice, clockgen keeps hardlocking the PC no matter what which is making life difficult,

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This is the case with me also. I don't know if it's the 1066 strap that i've tested or clockgen, however.
A question is whether the added nb volts that Commando utilizies will help this.

I tested some stability with Commando:
WC system, water @ 26.4ºC @ LOAD
I hope they will release some nice BIOS soon :D
vDROOP mod, Vcore IDLE 1.342V and under Prime95 1.342V

http://koti.mbnet.fi/dani69/ASUS_Com...core_20min.gif

LN2 Test


FSB 600 1M

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/Commando-600.JPG


FSB 595 CPUZ Verified


http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/Commando-FSB/595.JPG

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hope the pricing is within the acceptable range .. :)

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$211 ar Ewiz. I'm suprised isn't more? This Commando has solid Caps?

for those of you who already have the commando (mine is on the way from ewiz too :D ):
is the stock chipset cooling good for ~400FSB, with the fan, of is an aftermarket chipset cooler needed?
if stock is good, how load is that fan?
if aftermarket is needed, are any components previously cooled by heatpipe left to over heat if you remove stock and add on a NB cooler?

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Originally Posted by JoeBar

This is the case with me also. I don't know if it's the 1066 strap that i've tested or clockgen, however.
A question is whether the added nb volts that Commando utilizies will help this.

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Hey Joe, setFSB works perfect for me, give that a try maybe?

hi to all :D
somebody have already vmod it ?
it is the same vdrop-mod of p5bdlx ?
50khom trimmer ? :D
tnx


Marco

There you are with vDROOP mod.
I think vCORE is same as on P5B-series :)

http://koti.mbnet.fi/dani69/ASUS_Com...OP_mod_dot.JPG

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Originally Posted by Ironmon1

for those of you who already have the commando (mine is on the way from ewiz too :D ):
is the stock chipset cooling good for ~400FSB, with the fan, of is an aftermarket chipset cooler needed?
if stock is good, how load is that fan?
if aftermarket is needed, are any components previously cooled by heatpipe left to over heat if you remove stock and add on a NB cooler?

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No, under NB HS there is anful contact to NB.
Then when we have NB voltage adjust via BIOS up to 2.025V and vontact is poor so.. :rolleyes:

Here is few pics:
- NB contact
- SB contact

Some things never change, that NB contact blows.

Mine was slightly better but not much:-
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...FFA22/NB-1.jpg

Dani what value (ohms) do you use for that VDroop mod?

50Kohm.
Set it to 50K berfore soldering.

Cheers Dani. :toast:

Dani, love your avatar :)

The stock NB and SB cooling should be OK if you do some lapping and put them back with some AS5 or Ceramique. I did that for my P5B-D, had the same poor contact, and now the heat transfer is much better.

set it to 50K, go into bios, and track voltage change.

you will see the voltage go up slowly... keep lowering resistance until voltage stops going up...

i never got an actual value for this mod but this is how i did it on my p5b and it works great now! :)

What sound cards is everyone using with this board? I'm planning on picking up a Commando when they are released in the US and want to get a nice X-Fi to use with it and my non-SLI 8800GTX.

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Originally Posted by Dani

No, under NB HS there is anful contact to NB.
Then when we have NB voltage adjust via BIOS up to 2.025V and vontact is poor so.. :rolleyes:

Here is few pics:
- NB contact
- SB contact

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ahaha , you are lucky , i had just a corner on 965p die and none on ich :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Pt1t

ahaha , you are lucky , i had just a corner on 965p die and none on ich :rolleyes:

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how did it go with the cascade

I got my Commando today, replacing a P5B DLX. First impression : luxurious board with a lot of monitoring and voltage options, and 4 PCI slots ! Very nice replacement. It runs 3,7 Ghz just like the P5B. But it needs to be VDROOP modded and the power circuitry definitely needs heatsinks. It gets very, very hot when priming, can't touch it ! I need to do these things first before I'm gonna see if it gets any further than the P5B...

My 1st impressions

First : Tuniq Tower fits perfeclty ..nice :D

http://pedrorocha.planetaclix.pt/ComandoComTuniq.jpg


Here is a quick result with a retail E6400 cooled by air / Tuniq

http://pedrorocha.planetaclix.pt/CommandoE6400_3900.jpg

That was just with 1.65 on NB Vcore

VDroop does not sees to be a problem with retail motherboard

v_offset = v_bios - v_idle = 1.625v - 1.585v

v_drop = v_idle - v_load = 1.60v - 1.575v


But seems there is problem, after put a 120 fan on the top of NB / mems I raise the NB VCore to 1.900v (maximum in bios is 2.025v) a now the motherboard does not anymore - in LCD does not pass "CPU INIT"

I alredy clear CMOS, even remove the batery and the still not bot (turns on and off) - anyone experience the same problem ??

For now I advise you all not to pass 1.75v on NB voltage ..

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Originally Posted by Pedro Rocha

But seems there is problem, after put a 120 fan on the top of NB / mems I raise the NB VCore to 1.900v (maximum in bios is 2.025v) a now the motherboard does not anymore - in LCD does not pass "CPU INIT"

I alredy clear CMOS, even remove the batery and the still not bot (turns on and off) - anyone experience the same problem ??

For now I advise you all not to pass 1.75v on NB voltage ..

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I have the same problem once in a while. Only way round it for me is to take a stick that will boot at low volts (I use 1 stick of HZ) boot to bios, (you will get that 'overclocking failed' message) turn off then put my Cellshocks back in and away I go. Pain in the arse, but what can you do? :slapass:

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Originally Posted by bazx

how did it go with the cascade

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I benched with e+ under cascade/ln2 , not with commando.

New bios came with New bug, BUT WR :banana:

http://www.pt1t.net/Commando/bios.jpg

Where did you get that bios from ?
Can't find it from Asus site and Google isn't too generous either. :(

There is no new BIOS for Commando yet.

Oh, so what's that 0702 is then ?
I though 0601 was the first release...

Commando, in-stock @ NewEgg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131149

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Originally Posted by Antioch

Commando, in-stock @ NewEgg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131149

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WOW!

I purchased mine from ewiz.com for $211 shipped...it will be here on the 22nd.

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Oh, so what's that 0702 is then ?
I though 0601 was the first release...

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can you link me please

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Originally Posted by Pt1t

I benched with e+ under cascade/ln2 , not with commando.

New bios came with New bug, BUT WR :banana:

http://www.pt1t.net/Commando/bios.jpg

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All I know is this. Look at the post screen.

Just a suicide shot. This is where my 6600 seems to throw the towel in. Vcore 1.8V in BIOS.

http://ziberia.1g.fi/kuvat/5013MHz.jpg/full

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Originally Posted by Dani

There is no new BIOS for Commando yet.

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Damn, my mistake, there is 0702 somewhere :slobber:

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Originally Posted by Dani

Damn, my mistake, there is 0702 somewhere :slobber:

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yes but how to get it:D

This board is hell for ram overclocking, i've never seen my Supertalent so happy :)

http://overclocking-masters.com/User...ens/13.906.JPG

Not any optimisation, just tights timings.

Then we wait and see, if no one will send it to my email ;)

I should get my Commando tomorrow, so I can hardly wait for the 0702 BIOS, I've searched the net for an hour to no avail.

Yeah man I'm dieing for a new bios here too. The board clocks great, but it doesn't recover well from a failed overclock at all, i just hope it's something a bios can fix. If anyone gets one do post it or PM me please. :)

Anyway, heres a 32m run I did for our sub-3.6GHz challenge over at i4memory
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...-06-29632m.png

I'm also receiving my Commando tomorrow
where can we download 0702 ?

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Originally Posted by virtualrain

I'm also curious how the other x16 slot performs... I want to use a graphics card in the primary x16 slot and an Areca RAID card in the other slot... hoping it will run x16 on the primary and x4 (or x8) on the secondary.

Can anyone confirm by spec or BIOS, the x16 slot options for this board?

Thanks!

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Still no answer to this extremely important question. :(

It may be the most overclockable board ever produced, glad you're having fun, guys ;) , but it's useless as a long-term upgrade for most people if ASUS have only left PCI expansion possibility by making the second PCIe slot graphics-only. Can anyone with the board please confirm whether the slot works with other PCIe devices? Or is it a hybrid dinosaur, looking to a bright future but stuck in the past with no way to expand with newer hardware?

Greetings all,
I have just ordered a Comando and was searching for a users thread. My search brought me here. You all are way ahead of me in how to OC so I expect I will be comming here often.
As I said I saw the Comando at CES and had a chance to talk with the ASUS tecs. I especially like the solid caps and since I am not planing on more than ove Vid card this looked like a good choice, especially with all the 680i issues and suply problems with the Striker.
Here is my planed rig, I have most of the parts except the Mobo and GPU which I should have by Thursday.

Commando (on order)
QX6700
BFG 1000Wt PSU
BFG 8800GTX OC (on order)
TtArmor (air cool)
Zalman 9500
2 Gb Corsair Dom PC28500 CAS5
150 Gb Raptors for Raid-0 for OS and apps
2 more 35 Gb raptors in non Raid one for pictures and audio files and one for client files
I have not decided on adding a sound card yet but I will Prob. get an X-Fi instead of the on board sound
Plextor optical drives (IDE)

I want to OC but not to the extreme until I get my feet wet. After that I want to get the most I can while maintaining good stability.What would you suggest I set key settings at to start? Any basic flaws in what I have so far?

So what's the story with you guys that ordered from ewiz. Have any shipped?

and I thought going commando meant not wearing any underpants.....

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So what's the story with you guys that ordered from ewiz. Have any shipped?

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Mine shipped Monday from ewiz. I'll have it the 22nd.

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New bios came with New bug, BUT WR

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That bug is not related to 0702 bios. I have that bug using the 0601... it's when you change the FSB Strap but you don't touch the FSB, then save & exit and voilá... (it's that if I remember correctly, I don't have the mobo running right now, but that happened to me, i''m sure).

Can anyone post a changelog for 702 BIOS please? Thanks

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So when is this motherboard getting a wide release in the US? Asus' US site has nothing on it.

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EWIZ had this board. I do not see it today. Gone !!!

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Can anyone post a changelog for 702 BIOS please? Thanks

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Better yet, can anyone post the 0702 BIOS :) ?

New Egg and ZZF both got shipments yesterday and still have stock this morning.

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This board is hell for ram overclocking, i've never seen my Supertalent so happy :)

Not any optimisation, just tights timings.

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What SuperTalent is this and with what vdimm?

JoeBar, the same one from ABXZone?

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JoeBar, the same one from ABXZone?

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Yes, the same... :)

I am Dan-Baer there. Good to see :) you again. This appears to be a lively thread populated by knowledgeable folks.
So here I am waiting for UPS to bring my Commando.

is it possible for someone to post or host the bios 0702 ?

Thanks

Apparently not, we've been asking for the last 2 days and no BIOS for us yet :(

my quad is stuck @ 395ish fsb with the 0601 bios :(

thats 95 better then a 680

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thats 95 better then a 680

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thats 80 lower then P5B DX

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Originally Posted by alejo

Mine shipped Monday from ewiz. I'll have it the 22nd.

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Mine as well....be here the 22nd..

Hi everyone,

I also ordered one from ewiz and an e6600..

What memory would you guys recomend ?

I'm thinking one of these 2 choices:

Gskill http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231075

or Crucial

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146563

I plan on getting a 750w PC P&C psu also..

Thanks for the advice..

Regards,
Jose

Hello guys,

What's your best with "standard" cooling, I mean the standard chipset heatsink, a good sink and fan on the CPU and a correct airflow (case open)?

I manage to raise the FSB to 450/460 MHz with all voltages set to auto... and I can't even post at 500 with voltage increase.

I also have a really strange problem overclocking with Vista, but it's off topic. When I get to around 3.6 GHz, my Vista ask me to activate, it won't longer work... and if I raise the CPU voltage, I can post, but I have an error message from Windows Defender. I have the same pb with two (similar) boards, the P5B DX and the Commando and two (similar ?) CPUs, E6400 and Q6600 (both ES). If I slow my CPU a bit, let's say 3.4 GHz, everything works just fine (no need to reinstall Vista).

See you,

Thomas

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is it possible for someone to post or host the bios 0702 ?

Thanks

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Deam I order comando and with P5B DX I do 470MHz FSB with Q6600, so it is posible that comando cant do the same:confused:

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Originally Posted by Supertim0r

my quad is stuck @ 395ish fsb with the 0601 bios :(

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That's where i'm stuck as well... Any insight from those that were able to get past 400fsb on this board with quads?

if someone could share the 0702 bios...

Here is my reworked Commando :D

The board has been reworked for GTLREF control.

Finding the correct spots was really easy it took less than 10 minutes.
The wiring job was pain in the ass so I decided to use a piece of pcb to put them in a better order :rolleyes:

Sorry for the mess and the sh*tty soldering job.

http://www.armada.fi/Asus_Commando/C...F_Reworked.jpg

And the previous results vs news results are... ? :) Nice job there... I wouldn't do it :D

Hi guys, I just got my Commando up and running last night. However, I noticed that when I launched a 3D app there was a high-pitch buzzing/screeching sound and what whenever I alt+tab'ed out it went away. At first I attributed it to my 8800GTX, however, I later tried to OC my CPU from 266FSB to 300FSB and immediately noticed the buzzing sound had returned, regardless of what I was doing - even in BIOS. I've since unplugged my 8800GTX, put in an old Radeon7000-PCI card and noticed the noise when OCing. Also, when I start to run Orthos the noise intensity picks up and get incredibly more noticeable (at either stock or higher).

I've got a SeaSonic S12 650W PSU, and I didn't have this problem with either an M32N-SLI or Striker mobo.

So is my board bad?

This evening I'm going to swap my PSU and try my old 600W PSU and see if anything changes.... although I doubt it will.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Antioch

Hi guys, I just got my Commando up and running last night. However, I noticed that when I launched a 3D app there was a high-pitch buzzing/screeching sound and what whenever I alt+tab'ed out it went away. At first I attributed it to my 8800GTX, however, I later tried to OC my CPU from 266FSB to 300FSB and immediately noticed the buzzing sound had returned, regardless of what I was doing - even in BIOS. I've since unplugged my 8800GTX, put in an old Radeon7000-PCI card and noticed the noise when OCing. Also, when I start to run Orthos the noise intensity picks up and get incredibly more noticeable (at either stock or higher).

I've got a SeaSonic S12 650W PSU, and I didn't have this problem with either an M32N-SLI or Striker mobo.

So is my board bad?

This evening I'm going to swap my PSU and try my old 600W PSU and see if anything changes.... although I doubt it will.

Thanks!

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I noticed the same sound from my p5b-deluxe and Commando. (Although less intense on the commando) I just assumed it was normal since they were inherent on both boards...

I'm running an 8800gtx & a pcp&c 1kw psu if that helps.

I forgot to mention that, this Asus Commando has a several buzzing problem ! I thought It was my Ultra X-Pro 750W but I switched it to a Silverstone ST85ZF and buzzing sounds were still there !

It needs to be fixed, and that can't be fixed with a new bios...


PD: I was also using a 8800GTX.

The buzzing sound comes from insufficient power filtering, aka too small capacitors.

ffs i HATE buzzing

With my buzzing silverstone Zeus 750w PSU and this motherboard ill be attracting bees to my place :(

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if someone could share the 0702 bios...

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I see in another topic you already have the 0702 BIOS, would you mind sharing ?

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Originally Posted by krampak

I forgot to mention that, this Asus Commando has a several buzzing problem ! I thought It was my Ultra X-Pro 750W but I switched it to a Silverstone ST85ZF and buzzing sounds were still there !

It needs to be fixed, and that can't be fixed with a new bios...


PD: I was also using a 8800GTX.

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DS3 were buzzers as well weren't they hehe

Damn it. I wish someone in this thread mentioned how much this board buzzed before I bought it. Ugh. This buzzing is not acceptable at all.

Just checking before I return the board for a P5B-Dlx - the buzzing is present on all Commandos?

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Originally Posted by krampak

I forgot to mention that, this Asus Commando has a several buzzing problem ! I thought It was my Ultra X-Pro 750W but I switched it to a Silverstone ST85ZF and buzzing sounds were still there !

It needs to be fixed, and that can't be fixed with a new bios...


PD: I was also using a 8800GTX.

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Are you sure it's not the GTX? Mine seems to buzz whenever it switches over to full 3d, but before the fan ramps up. I can't really hear it now that I have a case. I'll be getting Commando on Monday. I'll see if it buzzes or not.