BIOS 0301 P5W64WS ProQuote:
Originally Posted by AcUaViVa
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BIOS 0301 P5W64WS ProQuote:
Originally Posted by AcUaViVa
Hmm, this is strange:
From BIOS FSB voltage up to 1.4V MCH will be:
- MCH 1.5V = 1.521V
- MCH 1.6V = 1.602V
- MCH 1.7V = 1.715V
- MCH 1.8V = 1.796V
then you set FSB to 1.5V in BIOS and your MCH is always 1.715V -> MCH 1.5V - 1.8V = 1.715V
..same issue on my P5WDH :stick:
In a post at OCXtreme, OPB recommended not to go over 1.4v for vFSB for either the P5W64 or P5WDG2 WS Pro and that is probably why :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
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Originally Posted by Dumo
Ok Ill give it a try...I just purchase a very nice ES chip which should clock higher than my x6800. By the way whith a multi of 8 I can clockgen up to FSB 470...but it crashes soon after. It may be a chipset overheating problem so I'll try some different cooling options next week. Unfortunately I need to travel so will be away from my rigs until then.
[QUOTE=sierra_bound]
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The 0301 bios seems fairly decent. I just wish Asus would fix the VCore issue. Selecting anything above 1.6v doesn't give you more voltage.
Is this specific to the 0301 bios because on 0215 my vCore is showing 1.67 when at 1.70 (Note: This is with a slight pencil trace).
lase any bios guide?
or seetings? for E6600 and TEAM's 800 D9...
24/7 i can't give it stable
Is the 0301 BIOS better than 0209?
0301 gave me 100mhz over 0209 with the same Vcore. I've been trying to get into the 4GHz club, I could only get 3.85GHZ and am now at 3.95GHz. I guess I'll hit 4GHz when the weather get's a little cooler!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by vudoodoodoo
that link doesn't workQuote:
Originally Posted by Dani
The link was working yesterday when someone first posted the bios. The server may be down, or the file removed.
can you upload the bios or something?
No, I can't. Just send me a PM with your email address.
It worked fine for me...I can email it to you..
-edit-
just noticed sierra_bound is sending it...
Cool. Gonna try it.
I hope this new bios fixes some of the stability Problems I have been having.
:mad: :mad: :slapass: Im really pissed.... I cant get this freaking board to go past the 400FSB. I had a nice E6600...sold it thinking it was most defenately the CPU holding me back. Well guess what, same problem again with new E6600. Vcore 1.425 and vFSB 1.4 vMch 1.6. I have tried endless combos to get it above the 400FSB stable yet no luck. Ironic, i talk to the guy who bought my old E6600 he got it running @ 4.0 ghz on a gigabyte DS3 on air lol!
So to make a long story short, ive ordered other memory, the CELL SHOCK PC6400 to help me get past the 400FSB. If that doesnt help im putting this board up for sale.
Cons: CPU runs +- 10C hotter than on P5WDH, wont go past 400FSB for now and it cost me a fortune, i chose this board based on the hexus.net review, all i can say is "cherry picked" And now im off to bed to cool off :)
Give the CPU 1.5v and you will hit 400 FBS..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibinco
Max out all the settings for overvolts as far as FSB, vMch..
Only thing I would hold back on is the Vmem, depending on what memory you have..
Personally.. I have a x6800, watercooling, maxxed all the Volts in the Bois, I have stock NB, No problems with heat, and I can hit 470..
NEW BIOS!! Thank the LORD!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Icer
Maybe this will fix my... well lets see..
Memory showiing up 50mb different.. hit 500 FSB, and maybe help my 7950GX2. :)
Thanks Dani:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
First run with air and 1.5Vcore in bios 1:1...
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9...shot064xo4.jpg
No pain :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Do you have something to say about this BIOS
Faster/slower, stable/unstable etc. etc. compared to those older BIOS (0022, 0215)
Still testing it:)
Great setup there bro :D
Keep it coming!
Still the same for me. Well, memory at least. It still doesn't wanna go 0ver 540. Our mobos need more Vmem. :D
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Originally Posted by Ibinco
It's not the fsb limitations of this board and maybe not the ram that's holding you back. Assuming your using the (default) 9 multiplier and your at 400fsb.... thats 3.6GHz @ 1.425Vcore! The only way you'll prolly get higher is to up the Vcore! I need 1.6 Vcore to hit 3.95GHz and it's not very stable.
Seems like multi maxed @13X...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/5...shot065tl7.jpg
Hmm, multi maxed out with those other BIOS @ XX
>14X with 0022.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
I am in the same boat as you, with 1.55 v in windows, 2.2v on RAM and all other volts maxed I can't get past 390x9. I can boot into windows at higher speeds, but prime hard locks my rig in under 1 min. My DS3 overclocked better than this board for less than half the $ :mad: New bios is more of the same, nothing improved for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibinco
On the good side, this board has no problems with my Xfi, unlike the DS3, and I don't have to listen to the inductors on this board whining like a little jet engine. I think when I settle on a 24/7 overclock this will be a fast and stable board, and Crossfire is a definite possibility now.
Blagh. RAM is only good at 530. Trying 530 @ 4-4-4-1. :toast:
1:2 divider.
What revisions are you guys'es that arent clocking so well, im hoping this isnt linked to the new 975x revision ive got on my northbridge.
turned multiplier down to 6, ram down to lowest dividor, relaxed timings all the way, then cranked up all the volts to max bios allowable.
Couldnt even boot above 390, not happy with that at all for a "470 out of the box mobo". I have C1E and speedstep off, unless im missing something else, my 300 bucks board appears to be a dud, which sucks because i can tell my CPU has got a ton more in it (b1 ES).
This board can go 470FSB, but it all depends on your cooling, ram and psu.
I tested five PW64 boards and all performed the same.
My specs. stay the same: TT Big Typhoon with Delta 120EHE 190CFM, Corsair 6400C3 and Zippy PSL6850 850W psu.
One board is up in smoke though...Dead dry.....
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8...shot046uw2.jpg
Newest one...Mobo kinda bent because of tight mounting.
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/463...shot067ih3.jpg
wow!:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
horrible QC.....
reminds me of my Foxconn 975x AB board that caught fire on me.:D
Its not a QC problem:DQuote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
Its because of condensation when running with cascade @ -90C:(
:slap: :slapass: your problem :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
I didn't complained about the mobo:)Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
It won't boot at 400x9/1067. :(
Had to go w/ 428x8/1070. =/
I need better cooling. I don't know how I'm getting 60s load w/ WC. :(
you didn't :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Hmm not sure what the problem is, my cooling, PSU, and RAM are all perfectly fine. This RAM does 950 at these timings, so 800 shouldn't be tough at all. Iwaki + Storm should be plenty adequate for the CPU, the chipset blocks have been cleaned and Ceramique replaced the crappy pads. I have a 120mm Yate Loon blowing directly on the RAM/Northbridge area, the heatsinks barely get warm now. My RAM is in the yellow slots, that seems correct. Maybe this board hates my Ballistix?
But thats sick, I know this CPU only needs 1.4875v for 3.8ghz overclock on other boards. e.g. DS3. And on this board it needs 1.5v bios----> 1.54 windows just to run 3.7ghz? Thats bogus!Quote:
Originally Posted by Complete
Thought this might be a good place to pop in ;)
I have tested many combos out on this board now and tried multis ranging from 6 to 10...
So far the highest FSB I can boot with is 455. Now I can Clockgen up to 470 after booting at 455 FSB and x 9 but it quickly becomes unstable at 470 and crashes.
Settings for me:
vFSB (1.4)
vMCH (1.8)
This board is by far the best based off of the 975 chipset but it will not go higher for me even using after market chipset cooling (not watter). This poses a problem for me becuase I have an ES e6700 on the way which can make use of the higher FSB. How much does the pencil mod for vMCH help out?
Just thought I would pass this along to folks...testing chip was an x6800 and phased...
Stupid question but your pict has me worried. When I removed the stock passive cooling last night I added a single aftermarket chipset cooling to the northbridge only but after looking at your picture it looks like heat may be a problem for mosfets too....how do you cool them after removing the stock heat pipes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
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Originally Posted by sdumper
You could cut the stock heatpipe off at the cooler & put that one back on.
Sorry I haven't read the whole thread.
Any confirmed vcore measuring point??
Thanks for your help
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Originally Posted by Icer
Interesting idea ill try it...thanks
:stick: Hmpf - always been and always will be........;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sdumper
So at least put a 120mm fan in front of...........:slapass:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...-vmchmod-1.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by ojdr2001
he said it was a condensation problem..not a cooling problem...Quote:
Originally Posted by sdumper
I didn't used to think they got hot either, I just thought it was the actual capacitors (those big black blocks) that got hot. Having sinked my MOSFETs though I can say that with loading on the CPU they get very hot indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by camouflage
http://www.superficial.net/miscstuff...rm_cooling.jpg
Looks good Durzel! Like you, I added some sinks on my mosfets (like the top of your pic) but still have the stock cooler on the others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Durzel
I've had this P5W64 board for a while now and am pretty happy with it. The problem I am having is with the manual ram timings. On air I can boot up to about 3.9 gigs. I'm stable at 3.6 or 3.7 depending on the fan and heatsink I use. The problem I'm having is that while I am completely stable at 9x400 using 1.45 volts Vcore and other voltage increases I cannot set the ram timings manually. I have to use the auto setting in bios. I've tried running memset and then just reproducing the timings manually in the bios and still no boot. This problem starts showing up somewhere in the mid 300fsb range. What am I missing?
P5W64 0301bios
E6600 1.45
2x1G GSkill 6400 2.1v
Schthe
PCP&C 510
7950 GX2
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Originally Posted by shogan191
I have kind of the same problem. My rams have no problems going to DDR2-1000 or DDR2-1068(4-4-3-4) at 356 FSB or below. (x9 multiplier)
However when i go to 400 x 9, it won't even post with DDR2-1000, Auto or any weak timings i set.
Yeah, but I'm not having a problem with the ratio at all. It's that I can't set timings regardless of ratio.
Where you posted "2x1G GSkill 6400 1.45v", Is that what you have your ram volts at??? 1.45? Shouldn't it be 2.0 or something? Maybe this is the prob?Quote:
Originally Posted by shogan191
Yep, sorry. Had them reversed. Fixed it.
Just tried the 0209 bios and same thing. If I so much as disable the "Configure DRAM by speed" setting I get no boot. That is without changing any of the individual timings. That is also with any speed selection.
Heh, had I looked what you put for Vcore I would have realized that;) Have you tried RD@7 & set to "standard" instead of "auto" or "turbo"? I don't have any good answers for you.
what voltage are you running your Vmch and Vdimm at?Quote:
Originally Posted by shogan191
Strange, mine does the very opposite. I must set timings manually or the board won't post. If I set the memory to run at SPD it will hang. I think the tREF is the setting to blame there, I need to change that to 7.8us from 15.6.
:confused: Hm, my RAM (CELLSHOCK) has 7.8 SPD but I changed it manually to 15.6 - board is booting fine and running like hell:Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyBum
http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/5...embenchap4.jpg
Strange issue - normally this only can be caused by the chipset......:stick:
that is a problem with the bios and the memory "SPD" programmed on the sticks not being compatible!Quote:
Originally Posted by LazyBum
Can someone please tell me the clockgen settings for PLL that work with this board, ive tried every sensor in the list and it instantly locks up if i change the FSB even 1mhz.
Use PLL 954123 and check the box "Ignore GSB/PCI".
clockgen worked, thanks
However, even with clockgen and 1.80vmch i get instalocks at anywhere above 400fsb :/
I either really suck at overclocking or i got a dud board, im guessing its the first one :(
Under the chipset section of the bios, set Read Delay to 7T. That might help you.
Nah, im running everything at absolute lows, horrible ram timings, 6x multi, etc etc just to try to determine max fsb
Testing 1950XTX stock...
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3...shot082my8.jpg
talk about a kick arse system!:)
What RAM are u using? I cant get anything above 400FSB stable either!Quote:
Originally Posted by jbrukardt
Ram - Gskill HZ
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5568/16mca1.jpg
3D (Just 2001 - it was Pi session :D)
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5168/2001iq3.jpg
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Originally Posted by Ibinco
Teamgroup 4-4-4-10 ddr800, but thats not the issue, even when i massively relax the timings and set the ram to the lowest dividor i cant get my fsb up.
I'm using BIOS 0301 and noticed that vcore in BIOS does not actuate above 1,65V
Means that from 1,65 up to 1,7 the vcore is the same (measured in MM and confirmed with temps and oc)
Is this typical of this board or is it a problem of this BIOS?
Thanks
Yes, it's typical of the board. 1.65v is maximum regardless of bios setting.:(
Thanks for the clarification sierra :toast:
Does vcore mod allow voltages above 1,65?
with 1,65 cant go over 4850 mhz spi 1m
Modded board will allow more than 1.65v. The problem is OVP. The board needs that mod for more voltage. AndreYang has fully modded board. He can get more than 1.7v.
My board is not modded, so I am in the same situation as you. With Vapochill, I can do 4650MHz with 1.65v. If I had 1.7v or more, I should be able to do 4.7+ GHz.
Man. I cannot get my x6800 over 3986 @ 1.55
Everytime I boot it with more than 1.55 or 1.575 it locks up and reboots :S
I can get my memory to DDR-900 @ 3.3.3.5 :D
Where I can see that mod.thanks in advance:DQuote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Wonder if there is an OVP on vdimm cause can't do 2.95V on this board.
With P5WDH no issues running 2.95+V with fatbody's...:cool:
b4 anyone points out that bios only has max.of 2.4...board is vmodded. ;)
oops
My northbridge is 3618B089 and the board is a very poor overclocker, cant break 380 even with max vmch
I am guessing that the people not hitting 400+ FSB have lowered their multipliers?
Seems like this may be the same issue as on the i965 boards were the north bridge freq = FSB x Default Multi/Current Multi
And the north bridge is only capable of around 470MHz....
Would explain why I can't go much above 400 FSB when I drop multi from 9 to 8.
Need to double-check what Sandra is reporting.
Nope, can't even get close to 400 on default multi, as much as I hate going through RMA this board may have to go backQuote:
Originally Posted by shaithis
E6600 (L628A276)
P5W64-WS Pro (vcore,vmch,vdimm moded)
G.Skill 2x1GB F2-6400GBNR (Value:) )
Enermax Liberty 620W
PCI Matrox 4mb
Cpu was cooled with my SS, for NB i was using 80W peltier and a water block.
Here is the setup.
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1338/setupty6.th.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2...tup2fv2.th.jpg
Max fsb with vmch@2.05V
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4...205vqo4.th.jpg
Max Spi1m clock for now vmch still @ 2.05V
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/5...pi1msu9.th.jpg
Well that`s it for now soon i will go for sub 11s in Spi1m.:D
Some more pictures here http://www.oc-lab.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=108
hi shark ,can you boot dirictly ,with 2,0vchm .or do u forst set it when your in windows?which grafik card you using when 2,0vchm?
For 2D benching i use PCI card(Matrox 4mb :cool: ) because u can boot with MCH voltage over 1.9V .
If u wanna use PCIe card u have to set your MCH voltage to 1.9V and when u get to windows then u bump it up over 1.9V.
thanks,thats what i thought,just like the p5w dh
Without mods has anyone been able to boot at 470 FSB?
No, 450 but not Orthos stable there.
No mods, but did AS5 all 3 heatsinks.
Andrew
I am able to hit 465 without Mods.
x6800 @ 4.1 ghz
7950gx2
Corsair 3.3.3.5 @ 990 mhz
With all the volt settings maxxed on the motherboard. But I do have a waterblock on my Northbridge
I can clockgen to 470 but cant boot that high can you actually boot at 465 or do you need to clockgen up and are you using watercooling for your chipset or air ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Complete
Edit-- Just saw that you have water on the northbridge...
So this 470 FSB appears to be an exception since nobody else seems to be able to do it with stock settings and air chipset cooling.
I am considering modding the P5W64 Pro for vMCH, vMem and vCore.
My primary reason is low FSB threshold of the P5W64 Pro. It is only moderately stable at 450 and is unstable at anything above that. Has anybody performed a vMCH mod and if so what were your results and will a Swiftech Air cooling block be enough to handle 2.0 vMch?
Any tips or lessons learned that you care to share would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
i penciled the biatch and now im @ 3.9ghz+ soon, 4ghz hopefullyQuote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
thanx Andre! :toast:
I am replacing my P5W DH Deluxe with this baby and I have high hopes for this one.
I have been using the board for a good while now, and it has been extremely stable and solid for me. I haven't even peeked into the bios for a couple of months, been too busy gaming to care ;p I didn't reach the clocks I hoped for, the chipset hits a hard wall at around 380, and no amount of voltage will get past it. From reading around there are quite a few others with the same issue, possibly the same chipset batch. However I have been running my 24/7 overclock at 380x9 , mem at 950 4-4-4-8 for months with server type stability so it's hard to complain too much :)
thinking of replacing board as it does my head with double restarts
above 300 fsb
i think 1 of the bios's fixed this issue over 300, but soon as you get
to 350 it suffer's double reboots even changing something in bios
other than overclocking, results in double restarts.
its a nice stable board if you dont use onboard sound
using onboard sound the board will takes ages on the windows scroll bar
i counted upto 14 or 15 passes
and theirs reports of the firewire ports dont work
the pci express slots clips are also very cheaply made, break of easily:slapass:
its funny how not 1 review mentions this or actually tests all features of the board
Hmm guess I haven't had to deal with any of those problems. Never owned a firewire device, most likely never will so firewire is disabled.
Using my Xfi so onboard sound is disabled.
Just flashed to the 402 bios, crossing my fingers that it helps me get a little more out of this processor.