this is not true, if you know the right people, the conroe was there in day 1Quote:
Originally Posted by TankGuys
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this is not true, if you know the right people, the conroe was there in day 1Quote:
Originally Posted by TankGuys
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Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Thats all i want to know too, from anyone .. please ?
pretty please :p:
You know Tankguys is a store and not a random noob poster right?:slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
He clearly has connections, but he cannot buy stepping 5 ES stuff for 300$ over MSRP off ebay to sell to people.
Hello Devious,Quote:
Originally Posted by Devious
Your question I believe is what we all want to know. The only result I've seen @ 450FSB with unmodded board & retail on conroe 6600 (8 multiplier)was a few posts back. I'm thinking this was done on a prereleased board that has red dimm slots, using a beta bios so therefore I do not think we can be certain @ this time. I will have the board Thursday from newegg but I'm not sure I can have results up before late that night or Friday morning, as I will be off to work shortly after it arrives. Did you want 450FSB set in bios or using Guru utility?
yes I was aware of that, and I was talking about B2 stepping.Quote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
Guys,
the 1:1 divider problems with my OCZ XTC Gold 6400 sticks (Elpida) are gone now. Tony kindly investigated this problem and coded a new SPD which he asked me to test with my sticks. It works like a charm now :)
Just running stock first, gonna check out what they can do later.
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/9339/oczoy5.jpg
Great job Tony! :toast:
:D nice to have the pros here . good job tony
It would be even better if Abit got the bios fixed. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by vanovich
Yeah. That and a 1333 strap would rock for the next update :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
I have the OCZ Plat 6400 2gb sticks. It should work just like the Gold right?
AFAIK it has Micron D9 chips, should work even better than the Gold ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by amx
Super PI 32M benchies from hardwareluxx.de chaps.
Systems used:
6600ES (Step5 B1) vs. 6600 retail
P5WDH vs. AW9D-Max
Both overclocked to 9x400, both with 2GB RAM running 400 4-4-4-8
P5WDH @ 14.39M
AW9D-Max @ 14.28M
It has been asked for more times than you can imagine. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
back in stock at ZZF for 219.99
is there a cold boot on the board??? Like the Asus boards cause im not happy with that. everytime a bios tweak the mobo have to shut down. Bad for my components
I posted this link before but not in this topic, www.anandtech.com loves this board even it was a beta they tested : http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2829&p=7
The abit doesn't have that problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by sladesurfer
No cold boot issues at all for me to -50c, one of the reasons I avoided the other boards with that problem besided the DH having only 3 SATA ports when I needed 4 on the ICH7R.
This is a huge plus for those running phase 24/7.
No matter how well this board clocks when it arrives, I doubt I can use it to replace my P5W DH. I have Zalman vf900's on my graphic cards and I need a pci slot for my sound card. Only choice would be to run one card & no sli which I will not do as an avid gamer with a large LCD. That said, I'm still excited to see how well this board is gonna perform.
I just placed it. Yay for free cheaping. So far better deal then eggyQuote:
Originally Posted by eleclipper
I don't think he was talking about the cold boot problem as most of us know it. I believe he was referring to the temporarily PSU shut down after you exit the bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
what is the max FSB on "AIR" with this board?...state which processor...thanks
The PSU does not shut down when you exit bios but that problem may arise when the 1333 strap is introduced. It may require power cycle to switch to that strap.
I hope that won't be the case, otherwise I would have bought the new ASus P5W64 instead since it clocks waaay higher out of the boxQuote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Oh no, the Asus problem has problem with FSB over 333 and shutting down on reboot. Nothing like that problem, your safe.
This shutting down on reboot problem when overclocking on other boards, is this solved in this bios with tRD / read delay and Row refresh cycle / Trc in this bios options ? If yes, I don`t get it why companies like asus don`t implent that in the deluxe versions of p5w and p5b
My P5B DL has this problem if I change just the date, lol. Good to hear, now I won't cringe everytime I restart the computer to change a setting in the bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Nope.......Not for me .......I've got both RED and BLUE(retail mobo) right now and none of them does this.....;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sladesurfer
In this thread we all "play" on air for the time been.....I have ax X6800 ES CPU BUT I think that a retail E6600 will climb higher as for fsb....;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
My 6600 could only reach 400 fsb with a 9x multi. The beta bios bumps that up to 405 at 9x. I think its my cpu thats falling short though. This same cpu couldnt get over 389 on a p5b deluxe.Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
Received an updated SPD from Geil today for 1:1 operation on this board. Hopefully Abit will get a new bios spin out shortly to address these 1:1 memory compatibility issues.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4...ombo32mwk9.png
420MHz 3-3-3-4 on 400MHz 5-5-5-12 rated sticks? That's some serious s*it ;)
Thanks for keeping us posted bingo :toast:
It's not Abit's fault reprogramming SPD on two sets of memory fixes the problem, more likely the memory company's problem to me.
is it true this board cannot run raid 0 with 2x36gb raptor disks? read it somewhere out there .:( edit . its working now with the new biose .got it confirmed .
Nice results! Do you think most E6600s/boards will hit that high? I'm looking for a board for retail E6600! Thanks,
Grog
Anyone ran Team memory on this board? Sucks if I run into issues.
Does it use D9 chips? If so, you should'nt be facing any problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
@ bingo13
can you poste memset screens? would be kind of interesting ;)
@ bingo13:
what vMCH for those 420??
Have you tested max FSB??
(I havent read the entire post, sorry if this is answered... )
I am waiting a P5W DH from RMA, but thinking about buying this Abit and selling the P5W, what do you guys think about this change?
Regards, Lord.
Unconfirmed reports say this board will do 450FSB with no mods, up to 470 with some changes in cooling. My board will arrive from Newegg tomorrow. We will have a better Idea after then what the retail boards can do with no mods. My P5W DH does 450FSB but only 1 Mb Pi stable. 440-445 FSB is 3d & 32Mb Pi stable but thats with 1.85v mch. This board stands to be the best/fastest overclocking 975X board available. Unfortunately dual graphics & with better sound card combinations are limited due to the location of the pci slot next to the pci-e slot.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_RTKK
I have had GSkill, Geil, OCZ, SuperTalent, TEAM, and A-DATA memories fail at 1:1 or post very strange results. The only high end memory that has worked flawlessly at 1:1 is Corsair without SPD updates or newly (as in the last week or so with revised SPDs) released memory modules. This issue has been reported to Abit several times over the last month and other early users of this board have reported the same problems. I am testing the DRR2667/800 selections from several suppliers now which appears at first glance to be in better shape but not perfect. On a side note, dump the bios and take a look at it. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
p.s. Those same modules having the issues at 1:1 operate perfectly on the Foxconn, MSI, DFI, and Asus 975X boards.
1.95V on the MCH, depending upon your board it might be anywhere from 1.8x to 1.9x real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_RTKK
My board is locked at 460FSB, it simply refuses to boot over 460 but I have a red board, retail arriving tomorrow.
@The Nemesis: your P5W DH seems to do the same as mine (440ish), but mine doesnt have the 1.85v option in bios, is one of the very first P5W (S/N 123XXXX). I have tried it with 2.1v @ MCH and a E6600ES Dry Ice cooled, and I got stuck at 465x9... It seems to me that the problem was the CPU, because the mobo wasnt vdroop modded, still have to try max FSB with something nearly to 2v.
When you get your AW9 from newegg post here your results and impresions, I am thinking seriously in changing my Asus for this Abit.
@ bingo13: have you tried SetFSB or Clockgen to raise FSB more than those 460?? (if there is any version avalaible)
Why do you say "A red board retail arriving"? It is supposed to be better than the Blue ones?? Sorry for those n00b questions... :D
The "red" he's talking about means its the prerelease version/sample with red & black dimm slots. The retail board had blue and black.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_RTKK
I have a pre-release board or looking at it another way, a production board with the wrong colors. The blue/black combo is the retail offering. My board sample will power off at 461 or above.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_RTKK
The fatal1ty version is the red/black?? but basicly the same board.
Did the red/black come with fans? I forget what the other differences in the fatal1ty versions are.
I've got the corsair pc8500 2gb kit running on this board and i havent had any problems at 1:1. I was even considering returning this memory because of the relative stability i was experiencing and just grabbing some ddr800 capable kit.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
I just want to get a handle on what problems you may be experiencing. Is it a no boot or no stability in windows thing?
I'm afraid you misunderstood him. The sample boards, like the one coolaler has, were red/blackish. They're pretty much the same except some PLL chip like the retail boards. Just that the retail is blue/black instead of red/black ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Nothing to do with the Fatality board.
My issues have been a no-boot situation at 1:1, no issues at 4:5, or if they booted I could not overclock very far. The Corsair 6400C4, 6400C3, 8500C5, and Dominator are the only high end modules I have tested without (not requiring a SPD update or new modules) an issue so far at 1:1. About half of the DDR2-800 sticks I have tested (including suppliers that had PC8000+ that did not work) are okay so far. The last two SPDs from OCZ and Geil have really worked out well on this board. I am not knocking the performance, just compatibility has left me concerned at this point, certainly nothing that a bios update cannot fix as the beta already improved several module issues. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDeeds
Update-
Mushkin Redline XP28000 works at 1:1.
Have you received your board yet? does it act the same way as the an8? :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Hi folks,
I have been looking around the forums and at this thread for awhile now and I thought I would post. :)
I got this board two days ago from Microdirect for £139.59 :D, and I can run my GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 800MHz Ultra Low Latency at 1:1, with stock everything.
Going to try and up the memory voltage to the recommended 2.1v, see if I can get anything good out'a these things tonight.
I have been really busy with work and overtime the past few days so I wont be testing till later on. :)
I’m expecting my mobo to arrive tomorrow. Will post some results this weekend with my X6800 B1 on water.:cool:
I'll be doing alot more testing over the weekend when I am back home, will be taking the rig back to my own house where all my stuff is. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightprowler_77
got mine last night! so far i am running 350 1:1 with 3 gigs of ram. I had to flash to beta bios to get it to run 1:1. so far so good will try to get to 400 today.
Expecting it on Friday. Sitting in Philadelphia right now for some odd reason. UPS is being a pain.Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
This is all I needed to see! :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
How long before you shows us vMods George?
Heck, I'd settle for knowing where to measure Vcore with a voltmeter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Astral7
I need to compare the AC characteristics of my DQ6 to my new aw9d MAX,
but they must both be set to the same Vcore for a valid comparison.
Since any software tool that merely reads the sensor is subject to error,
this measurement must be done using a voltmeter.
so how would you fellas compare this board to say the Asus P5B Deluxe?
for a e6300, Crucial Ballistix PC6400 system, which one would overclock better and cooler?
So any real difference between the AW9D and AW9D-MAX regarding overclocking?
Get this over the Asus P5W Dh ?
Sicness are you still using this bios?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=182
Where can i get the latest if don't?
Thanks
yeah i asked the same and no one wants to answer... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressure
probably cant answer maybe as they been so keen on the MAX that the non MAX hasnt seen the day light for these fellas yet.
From what I've read & seen, they both share the same bios. The non max has 4 SATA's vs the Max's 7(plus one external connector) & single lan vs. the Max's dual Gigabit Lan. The most significant difference will be the max motherboard isQuote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
The non max hasQuote:
enhanced with traditional heavy duty armor plated Solid-State capacitors
Also the cooling is different. Only the northbrige is connected to the heatpipe. This makes me curious though because if a fan is added to your northbridge then it will be cooled separately from the southbridge and they will not exchange heat across the same pipe. I feel this could improve clocking on this board since they are not exchanging heat across the same pipe, but one would have to think the Max board is designed to overclock better considering the capacitors and all.Quote:
solid state capacitors in all the essential places
http://www.abit-usa.com/images/produ...gle_500_lg.jpghttp://www.abit-usa.com/images/produ...gle_500_lg.jpg
All those sinks look rather large, with a nice 40x28mm delta on the northbridge, I am sure temps will be great.
so did u guys OC higher compare with ur older mobo|?? im thinking of getting this
I think they both suffer from this issue as well. SLI/Crossfire and X-Fi anyone?
http://slidog.bigblog.com.au/data/2/...0921230702.jpg
http://slidog.bigblog.com.au/data/2/...0921230702.jpg
Not to mention the maximum 11x multi :(
Yes I do, no newer BIOS arround (yet).Quote:
Originally Posted by MJRL
Thats a snug fit, do you feel comfortable running the second video card like that?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLi_dog
Hopefully, in the near future, I can join in on the AW9D-Max discussions as mine should arrive later today. Not sure what I'll do with my OLD P5W DH (with only 1.65MCH:rolleyes: ) but I'll think of something.
You gonna try sli on this mobo?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLi_dog
Any time soon cuz I have to insulate it too so as to start benching.....:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Astral7
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Originally Posted by Sicness
there is now from our german friend:) 12 final bios
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...87#post1735287
Any feedback on this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsy
This the max with air i can get (zalman 9500), i can boot to windows at 440, no more for now.
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1601/41011zk1.jpg
The P5W DH and the 965 DQ6 both had a feature (BIOS) that
when enabled, the CPU fan voltage is automatically controlled
according to CPU temp. That is, the voltage is low when the CPU is relatively
cool, and as CPU temp rises, so does the fan speed, and does so
on a continuim, not discretely as ABIT guru implies.
Does the aw9D MAX have such a control, and how does one set it.
Guru doesn't do this.
ABIT EQ control the fan speed...
Any screenshot of 500+ FSB?
When I first got into overclocking it was with an IC7-G Max and a P4 3.0c. Anyone know if the AW9D-Max will properly support the 7950 GX2?
Just recived my AW9D- MAX. :cool:
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/2...0915ap2.th.jpg http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8...0920ay1.th.jpg http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3...0921il3.th.jpg http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9...0919yf9.th.jpg
Just started with OC:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3441/400cc3.th.jpg
Nightprowler:which BIOS are you using?
I`m using this:Quote:
Originally Posted by mykeos
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...87#post1735287
what block is that one on the gpuQuote:
Originally Posted by Nightprowler_77
Its AquagrafX7950gx2Quote:
Originally Posted by thelostrican
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/3...0799lq6.th.jpg
Can someone tell me how to disable speedstep/EIST on the AW9D MAX?
It's under Cpu feature in the advanced bios menu. what multi are you using?
Thanx. Should I set disable to all of the funktions in the advanced bios menu?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsy
Highest FSB so far is 425 with MCH 1.75. The screen goes black when rebooting at that speed.
I tested prime at 3.730ghz ( 10 x 370) stable so far, but coretemps are cloce to 80C :slobber: This was with EIST and all that stuff enabled
The mosfet heatsink on top need air circulation on it... you are using waterblock... considering putting small fan on it like what you did to the ramQuote:
Originally Posted by Nightprowler_77
that is where the heat need to go out....
:toast:
I got my board today as well. I thought there was gonna be more room between the PCIe slots but it's the same as i975Xa-YDG, 60mm only ;)
maybe a waterblock on NB would allow you to reach higher FSB,or at least better air cooling.eventhough, above 400 is quite ok and would be enough for me:)
maybe re-apply NB thermal paste with artic silver 5 or something like that... :hehe:
Yayy for me,mines coming today :)
Picked up on a few pointers from this thread so thanks,have the latest BIOS waiting already.
Hope to get some good clocks. :)
it is actually the same bios as 12 beta B02... no newer bios yet... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bootsy
you will need to use the modded sli driver[in driver section] to get SLi to work with this board.... with sli bridge provided with the packages... there are a bit gain in score..Quote:
Originally Posted by Nettwerk
Tested it with 7600GT
My retail box abit AW9D-Max topped out at 440MHz FSB and is double super pi and prime 95 stable... I'm running the beta BIOS just like everyone else!
http://forums.legitreviews.com/image..._MAX_440pi.jpg
wow... nice 440MHz stable... cold booting at 440MHz or you need to use uguru to clock it up?
cold booting... it will cold boot up to around 450MHz, but it isn't stable.
Here is a link where I've been posting what I've been doing...
Tcase max is 85c so at least your not at the max. These conores really heat up when you up the clock speed even under water. I disbaled all the settings but I am no expert on this board, yet. I think my ddr667 ram is holding me back from hitting 400+.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightprowler_77
Doa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that sucks!! my last Asus board was DOA and i spent 6 weeks waiting for ZZF to send a another one.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Any clock gen for this board? I could try, uguru clockgen its unstable.Quote:
Originally Posted by tictac
Looks like a nice board, may soon be replacing my DS3 :) Anyone know the technical specs on the CPU voltage regulation? 4phase, 8 phase?
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Originally Posted by Apoptosis
What is this cold boot you speak of? Is it like the Asus with its temporary shut downs and stuff like that?
What???? there is the cold boot issue like the Asus board? I thought Fugger said there is NO cold boot.
Man!!! I ordered this board already. Someone pls confirm. I still have 1 day to cancel my order.