question :)
can i use a non C2D CPUs on this board?
I still love my old 506 and want to try this CPU on this mobo?
any clue?
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question :)
can i use a non C2D CPUs on this board?
I still love my old 506 and want to try this CPU on this mobo?
any clue?
Biostar's website is an disaster so I don't think you'll find the answer there.Quote:
Originally Posted by chanelight
If you look at another mobo with the same chipset you will find out if works on that mobo.
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/c...l=P5B%20Deluxe
I believe the 506 is listed on the above ASUS cpu support page for the P5B Deluxe.
I'm not liable for the above advice.:fact:
The specifications for the Biostar TForce P965 Deluxe CPU says, "Intel Core 2 Duo/Pentium D/Pentium 4/Celeron D Processor".
hmm... on your signature, you use a D805 right? it has same bus like 506 (533 MHz). and you are using DS3, so i think that my cpu also fit in that mobo :)Quote:
Originally Posted by msgclb
but... when i see this screen shot:
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4581/fsbqe3.jpg
it says that minimum fsb is 266 MHz, but my cpu only has 133 MHz FSB in default :(
so what should i do?
isn't that screen shot with a C2D in the socket?...if so, it is probably detecting the bus speed and showing it as the minimum selectable FSB.
Quote:
Originally Posted by chanelight
looks like this mb is quite good !
at least with less pbs than P5B DL...
I'll think about it :D
what did you guys set in bio how come when I open CPUZ it only tell 1 cpu core?
doesn't it say 2 cores at the bottom?
core 1 tread 1. I set it to 600x8 in bios it show 4.8Ghz when restart but actual is only 3.2Ghz
peel back the overclock to see if it shows correctly....
hmm... i see... so if i put a 506 in the socket, the bios will show 133 as a minimum FSB right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
that would be my guess....as long as the bios is coded to accept that processor, it should show the base FSB as the minimum
Is this available to purchase yet? I can't find it anywhere.
newegg has had this board for awhile now lmao. go there and search it u will find in under biostar
it is not the deluxe model
They didn't when I searched last week or yesterday. I think you're seeing another motherboard...Quote:
Originally Posted by natedog420
newegg has the non-deluxe model for about $105...i think it has no raid and the multi changing feature is not available; although someone said the deluxe model might not have the multi changing feature either.Quote:
Originally Posted by dqniel
450 mhz fsb was the first setting i booted with my PT. after a freeze in os i wasnt able to boot that clock anymore. anything below works fine after a while of testing [even 449 :confused2] but from 450 mhz it fails.
is it actually necessary cooling the mosfets ? :D
maybe i should try a better mch cooling allthough bios shows 22° C SYS Temp :cool:
do you think cooling is the reason for that fsb wall ?
i will have soon à biostar deluxe... :D
...during the RMA of my P5WDH :slapass:
dammit ... can anybody help with that wall at 450 mhz ? i mean voltages are even all minimum at 449 mhz.
Problably memory, Biostar has weird memory issues, if your memory bugs out in 2:3 you'll know it's memory issue...Quote:
Originally Posted by BAR*B*Q
ya, allready thought of and tried 2 different micron d9 kits.
and they go with ddr 800 divider far over 500 mhz. 533 really works fine up to 449 mhz. exactly from 450 mhz it wont boot.
€ i did the vdimm mod, increased voltages. tried any bios. but its allways the same fsb wall 1:1.
sounds like chipset limit is reached for that type ram.
but even DaWaN is using memory with micron chips. with succes i suppose.
and isnt it a coinscidence that it dies exatcly at 450 mhz ?
in fact it would be pain in the arse. this board was actually meant to max my cellshocks 8000 out.
first of all, not all ram sticks from the same batch are equal...because one user has no problem reaching a certain fsb, doesn't mean that you will get the same results with the same model sticks.
thats why i testet two different kits. same result on both of them.
then...you might need to try a different brand of memory.
i would say 449 fsb is doing very good...
Well, for me at every divider the memory maxes out at same freq while in other board it'll go way faster, that's why I'm limited at 1:1, your board seems really weird...Quote:
Originally Posted by BAR*B*Q
hehe. it were two different brands. g.skill and cellshock.
i tried mushkins aeneons too. but they couldnt stick with the microns.
im never satisfied anyways in the first place :D
but the fact that the gap between 100 % stable and not even bootable lies between one single clock makes me crazy. another thing is that i can reach the 449 mhz with the lowest voltage settings.
thats why im really in a huff :)
:fact:
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaWaN
Maybe another thing then, did you used clockgen or bios ??
both. i think i got a freeze with glockgen above 450 mhz.
may be your cpu ?
nah, it ran on p5w with 465 mhz when i remember correctly.
but ill have another look on my oc pics to be sure. its only on my disk at home.
€ : nope, cpu ran with 465 mhz 1:1 on p5wdh.
now...
i just (cold)bootet with 454 mhz on the biostar (set in the afternoon but also weird because usually it sets cpu clock on default after a crash)
anyways, i got a freeze a few seconds. surprise, surprise. but wth is the board trying to tell me :confused:
anybody knows where the sensor reads out sys temp ? actually temps are fine.
even one of my early ideas was that a cold bug is the reason :D so i turned on the heater but that didnt work either :rolleyes:
I did 36gp with this motherboard and it perform very well. This Motherboard can do easy 540*6 cpu
this 6600 in aircooling, i m going to try it under phase change. :D
Biostar Tforce 965p DLX
2*1go Gskill pc6400 1:1 4-4-3-8
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/6600/36GP_13_891.PNG
are theese g.skills micron or elpida ? any special cooling on your board ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by BAR*B*Q
aLL @ stock, Gskill are D9 , ~600 in 4-4-4 2.6v
if you use higher Vcore and Vdimm, i bet you would get higher FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAR*B*Q
Anyone in the U.K have one of these?
Not seen them anywhere
how you got 2.6v?? vdimm mod? use ddr2 optimizer??Quote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
hmm, 2,6 dimm and 1,6 core voltage read out in bios should be enough mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
for 445 i used ~2,1/1,37.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BAR*B*Q
????
http://www.lejabeach.com/Biostar/965...5ptbios-22.jpg
i used stilt mod (post #29)
i think the only thing left i could do, is try another cooler with a decent mounting.
even though Pt1t is reaching more then 500 stock :rolleyes:
OK, I see you have the Vdimm mod. Thanks :)
So does this non-deluxe model allow you to change CPU multi?? :confused:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Lodewijk
First bench under Single Phase,
6600 L631a674
Biostar Tforce 965p deluxe
2*1go gskill 6400 HZ 1:1 4-4-3 2.2v
Just a quick Boot/1M during my lunch time , more result under this phase change later.
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/6600/500X9_dod.PNG
where u guys r getting this board? cant find it
i don't think so as reported by another user.Quote:
Originally Posted by uclajd
ok thx..:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by JWilson
i thought its maxed at 2,4v just as the Biostar AM2 boards
Max fsb with passive chipset cooling ...
No multi in bios doesnt help me :D
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/...dlx_fsb500.PNG
Quote:
Originally Posted by wedfighter
Hmmm.... Let me check into that. I just don't remember. I have all the voltsge readings at home....
It s 2.2v maxQuote:
Originally Posted by JWilson
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
The normal max or the Mod max...?
i mean by mod the vdimm..not just by moved the jumperQuote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
i was thought that its vdimm max @ 2,4v (vmodded) just as the TForce AM2 boards
but i'm wrong..it can go way higher...even >3v :toast: :stick:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=122539
normal max , mod max , i reached 3.3v, i had not try more but it s possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by JWilson
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
Right, we were talking about the Mod max... :)
So you set the 6 multi in Windows? Even the Deluxe doesn't have BIOS multi adjustment? :confused: :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pt1t
what bios are you using pt1t? and what CPU voltage?
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/138552.png
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=138552
When be what there will be a stable bios ??? :mad:
More than 1 hour to find the adjustments to start :slapass:
I am on it can make much but would be necessary to give itself the sorrow to develop the bios and vmods :cool:
Jesus H, 581FSB. I might have to get this board even if it doesn't do multi adjustment. :slobber:
Quote:
Originally Posted by boblemagnifique
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caubecari
The 914.
E6600 L631a674 under single phase
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=138525
1M Sub 11sec :D
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/6600/512X9.PNG
http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/6600/32M_500X9.PNG
Quote:
Originally Posted by boblemagnifique
Nice one bob :toast:
nice!! :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by boblemagnifique
what vchipset, vmch anyway? and..what bios ??
Not vmod (vmod vddr only) (Bios The Stilt ver Dlx)Quote:
Originally Posted by wedfighter
The Night , i test my 6600 under Caskade (and Vmod Vcore & Vddr) with Bios 914 :)
Nice result Bob :toast:
My 965PT with E6600, still with stock BIOS no mod.
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1835/pi8mty5.jpg
Would you mind sharing these adjustments dude? :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by boblemagnifique
PS: link to your validation must be http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=138552 instead of 133542
Can you screenshot in bio for us so we can learn from you ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by before
can someone please please tell me where can i buy this board , PLEASE ,
would be nice to know where you live!:)
lol. yes i live in the US, actually pretty close to u , FL :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
ya ive checked most e-tailers and can only find the pt version, can anyone tell me where we can buy a deluxe in the states?
About the Vmod...if anyone can offer assistance really quick.
I just got this board and am going to do the jumper mod. I am trying to get around 2.35-2.4v for the ddr2. So, just to clarify...the LOWER the resistance on the VR, the HIGHER the ddr2 voltage will be, correct? I just want to make sure I don't start out at the HIGHEST setting.
Also, can you use a DMM to measure ddr2 voltage with no ram in the slots? As in, turn on the psu/mb with no ram in it and still measure the coil? Thanks guys.
-Collin-
Is bios version 803 date 206/08/17 the latest bios for the T force 965 DLX ?also is the Biostar flasher utility safe to use ? thanks.
See: Biostar Tforce 965PT/P965 Deluxe Vdimm ModQuote:
Originally Posted by NinjaZX6R
914 is the latest. See here...Quote:
Originally Posted by seren
Thanks a bunch.Quote:
Originally Posted by JWilson
So which one is better? The Stilt modded BIOS ver IP96A803TSA, or official 914?
Good question. I think I'm going to do the Stilt mod. I'll have it done soon, so I will post back after. :)
Also, if anyone is having a HECK of a time finding 50k vr's, I have a few extras.
-Collin-
The Rebels have a modded 914 BIOS. I'm using that. Works great! See:
Biostar Mod BIOS Ip96a914.rh for TForce P965 Deluxe/965PT
My board won't boot with the 1066 strap using the 914RH BIOS.
Does 540 FSB with the Stilt BIOS.
Any suggestions?
Yes, be satisfied that you have a $100 board that will run a 540FSB. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by ziberia
Quote:
Originally Posted by ziberia
What do you mean? It doesn't boot at all?
Well, just thought I'd share that the stilt mod worked like a charm. I have to say though, it's a little odd that I had to crank on the VR for about 20 turns before it did ANYTHING. Then, it jumped from 2.3 to 2.7v! So I backed it off to a nice 2.46v to start. My Corsair 5400UL ram will be here tomorrow. Will post results as they come. :)
http://www.collindude.com/images/hosting/vmod.jpg
-Collin-
That's because you used a VR that was too high a value... 2K to 5K would have more control...
I was worried that it would start off too high of a vdimm though. Or do I have the wrong idea?Quote:
Originally Posted by JWilson
-Collin-
Voltage starts to increse below 2kohm measured on pot, so putting 50k pot is not good idea, jumps will be very huge and u will have less control on your memory. 10kohm will do the job perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjaZX6R
Ok I try almost everything with stock BIOS (with one the board came).
I try all possible voltages, I also try with max PCI-E clock (I set it 200) using PCI Matrox card, but I can not go above 490Mhz no matter what I do, I didn't try single channel and I didn't try any of modded BIOS I will try that latter today
rest of rig is:
C2D 6300 628A147
2x512 Team Xtreem
ThermalTake BT
Enermax Liberty PSU
p.s. My PT is C2 revision
Its a good idea to start with fixed resistors.
Install a 100k resistor, test.
Install a 50k resistor, test.
Install a 25k resistor, test..
etc, until you find the point where voltage begins to climb. Old 3-pin fan headers and old power/LED connectors work perfect for swapping resistors fast without soldering.
I'm reasonably happy. But since I paid 128 Euro for the board I would prefer 550 FSB... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by uclajd
555 x 9 and I won't bother you again on this thread...
Let me try to be more precise:Quote:
Originally Posted by JWilson
The board will make an 'attempt' and then reset to 266 FSB. As said, the Stilt BIOS boots fine @ 398.
398!!! What happened to your 540????Quote:
Originally Posted by ziberia
Anyway, I'm booting at 7x500 with the 940Mod... May be due to memory and other things... Whatever....:rolleyes:
Hey guys, I have a question!
I did the vdimm mod and I'm still waiting for my ram to come in the mail today. There is something very odd going on though. Even when my computer is turned off, there is still ~2.5v going to the ram! Is this because there is no ram in the slots? The psu is on, but board is turned off...but I still get the vdimm reading. What's going on???
-Collin-
I'l boot with 398 to stay with the tighter strap and then use clockgen to crank the fsb up...Quote:
Originally Posted by JWilson
540 is here:
http://ziberia.1g.fi/kuvat/10.547.jpg/full
Since the board is very slow clock-per-clock compared to a P5B dlx I wanted to give the RH bios a try.
Where can i find this damn thing? All I can find is the Tforce965PT?
That's the same as the deluxe without the RAID. I have the PT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lithan
-Collin-
where did you see that ? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by ziberia
Good question. The P5B Dlx outperforms this board by a good margin or what? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by metalazzo
-Collin-
I have a P5 dlx. SuperPi 8M is about 11 s. faster on the P5B @ 525 x 9 than Biostar :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by metalazzo
An ATX motherboard is turned on simply by being connected to an atx PSU, the power switch simply turns on everything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjaZX6R
Ok I manage to take same scrshots from win at 500 fsb but nothing else, if I run eny test win will reset, so maybe my CPU is FSB limited? I try with diferent BIOS its all same for me.
is that all ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ziberia
it seems to me that biostar has not the pcie@1X problem
if i had known, I would have chosen biostard instead of asux :/
I don't understand what's going on. I got this board all set and running with the Stilt volt mod, but the ram is totally unstable with the mod installed. I thought that corsair 5400ul loved voltage. I set the voltage to 2.4, 2.5, 2.6 and it still gets errors in memtest. I remove the mod, and the board can run 450fsb at 1:1 no problem. Why would the volt mod cause errors in memtest? This ram uses D9 fat body chips.
:(
-Collin-