http://www.msi.com.tw/program/suppor...ist.php?kind=1
Has anyone tried downloading and installing Dual Core Center from here? I can't get the program that came on the disk with the board to work.
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http://www.msi.com.tw/program/suppor...ist.php?kind=1
Has anyone tried downloading and installing Dual Core Center from here? I can't get the program that came on the disk with the board to work.
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Originally Posted by kman540
I didn't even use the CD. I just went and downloaded from the Dual Core Center ment for the 965 Platinum. Works ok.
Anyway here are all the problems I am facing.
Need vMCH
Bios needs to allow me to go more than 265 FSB
PC Alert4 reports wrong CPU temps (showed 180c for me)
System needs very high voltages for OCs
More ram options and fix CPU FSB to RAM Ratios (They don't always work for me)
Fix bios problems which make it show wrong frequency
Allow for down multis on retail conroes
There are others, you guys should add to this list so we can all call MSI and tell them of these problems.
I agree with the majority of the problems you have. Definitely need vMCH, but you should be getting more than 265 FSB. I can get 360.
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Originally Posted by cupholder2.0
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Originally Posted by kman540
No I mean the bios doesn;t let me select more than 265 fsb. I rely on clockgen for more than that. The most iv gotten was 12x365 = 4.38 Ghz.
I'm at work right now, but max FSB is 550 I believe.
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Originally Posted by cupholder2.0
He knows. He's saying that he has a BIOS bug where it won't show 550 FSB, it only lets him see/select 265 FSB in the BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by kman540
I have a feeling there is something else stopping cupholder2.0 from having a higher FSB. Everyone else can get much higher numbers and his doesn't even give him the option??? I'd start troubleshooting. Are you sure your running the same BIOS as everyone else and you ahve things set right?
Correct me if I'm wrong but if you disable C1E option in the BiOS you're locked into the highhest multiplier. Also there are features in the BIOS you will see only with a Conroe and Allendale I assume. I ran a D805 and had similar problems with FSB. I do agree, we need a Bios update to choose multiplier, instead of being locked into the highest.
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Originally Posted by cupholder2.0
Hey,Quote:
Originally Posted by 5-Clicks
What extra RAM options do we need? Is there a lot of RAM tweaking involved to get to 400MHz FSB? I don't want this to be like my Ultra-D with 50 million options that I have no idea about :(
Cheers,
Suman
hi I'm new to this forum.
I'm on my second board. I'm running a Celeron 3.06 stock and OCZ gold 6400 RAM at 2.0 V. After changing the memory divider to 1.25, the board refuses to post. It powers on, the fans come on then powers off. This cycle repeats itself over and over without me touching the power button. Clearing the CMOS doesn't help. I currently left the battery out overnight and also unplugged the motherboard. I haven't tried it again today.
Of course I have tried switching the power supply, processor and RAM. this doesn't help.
Other issues that I've noticed include LAN isn't always detected in Windows XP. in the bios, the +12V is reported as 13 with both my Enermax and Fortron power supplies.
this board in its current state is a pain.
Sorry I downloaded MSI DUAL core center, not Core centerQuote:
Originally Posted by JayG30
Got Dual core Center from
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/suppor...ist.php?kind=1
I just tested core center and it reads my CPU temp as -78 and starts beeping. It won't let me change Vcore either. Use dual core center, atleast it shows correct temps and frequencys and allows some OC...
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Originally Posted by JayG30
Yes, I am running BIOS 711. Same bios as everyone, expect I think I am the only one using an ES netburst cpu, maybe this bios doesn't like PDs or something?
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Originally Posted by kman540
I can change multi from 12-17, but only because I am using an ES PD950. Does anyone know options in the bios which may be limiting me to 265 fsb max?
[QUOTE]Are you using the cpu in your sig? I just got the board and it doesn't even have Core Center on the MSI disc. I downloaded it after reading that you did but it locks up and doesn't read fsb or multi right. [QUOTE]
Did you install Dot Net Frame Work 2.0.?
Dual Core Center is on the disk. Look in Utilities/MSI folder.
That's Core Center right? I believe you want Dual Core Center.
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Originally Posted by dogsx2
Are you able to access the CPU Features sub-menu?
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Originally Posted by cupholder2.0
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Originally Posted by kman540
Yes
Did you try these settings in addition to voltage increase?Quote:
Originally Posted by cupholder2.0
Disable Autodetct PCI Clock
Disable Dynamic Overclock
Disable C1E
Disable Speedstep
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Originally Posted by kman540
I disabled AutoDetect PCI clock (in cell menu)
Disabled D.O.T
C1E is also disabled
I can't disable speedstep, it just won't let me select the option. However in windows I don't actually see my frequencys ever move or change.
I am having a wierd power problem with this MSI board.
It seems like my 12v rail is being raised along with my vdimm on my ram.
for example:
vdimm 1.8v
12v rail:12.15
change my vdimm to 2.0
12v rail is 13.9
is anyone having a problem like this?
Yes see my post a few messages up. Any thoughts on my post problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by demenion
Thanks
I had a similar problem, the board kept powering on an off, I wasn't even near the switch. I just let it do it about 5 times, then it stopped. I pulled out the battery out put it back in and it started back up. It still does it, but I don't let it go 5 times, I shut the power off on the power supply, reset the cmos with the switch and it starts. It's screwy. I can't comment on the voltages until I get home.
btw, welcome to the forums.
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Originally Posted by alternaria
Well I tried two of these boards, both died :(
One died almost immediately the other died within 12 hours - I vertainly will not be buying another MSI motherboard again ................................. ever!!!!
My 12v is also read incorrectly, I see it as 13.8 on bios. Dual core center reads it as 11.99 which makes much more sense.
good god MSI better be doing something about all these problems or they are gonna have alot of boards being shipped back to them.
Huh?
Do you see anyway that MSI could not have known about these problems?
12v+ reads just a wee bit high.:rolleyes:
Your right on one thing pcdoc, this board will wear you out trying to set a clock.
Yea I saw the 14.22, I want a PS like yours..... :) Have a good time, you're just gonna love that board!Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
Yea, I put it on the self... It'll make great board to run a celery or someting, maybe worth more for parts... :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
So what are the biggest issues with this?
Can I run an e6600 on this without overclocking without issues?
Right now I'm happy that I can just oc by the bios. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pcdoc1
Two DS3 boards would not let me set even 267 in the bios and post.:(
This board has a lot of bios work just to be good.
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Originally Posted by Pacification
At stock it should be fine. My PD950 runs fine at stock. I can even overclock beyond 5 gigs but it asks for insane amounts of voltages. There is also no vMCH yet, this should get us much better OC once added.
What makes you think they will add it? I've had a few MSI boards and they are very slow at bios updates.Quote:
Originally Posted by cupholder2.0
:( thats not goodQuote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
400 fsb @ 1.4v is really stable. Room temp was 83F with tower 120 cooling. I'm now wore out for awhile but still have prime running. Whoever said they should call this board power down was sure right.
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6...rimezm1.th.jpg
Does anybody have any suggestions for other boards. Looks as we all have to live with the lesser of evils as early adopters of Core 2
Looks like the P5B Deluxe is doing quite well with AndreYang's 550 FSB mod. :up:
god all this :banana::banana::banana::banana: is terrible, obviously oc'in with this thing is outa the question without problems right now, so can someone tell me will it run fine without any OC at all? Im even talking about readings in the bios, i saw someone mention that sometimes it wont show the correct info like fsb or something, wrong 12v rails, etc...
im still waiting on my conroe with this crap sittin beside me for the last week, just wanna know if I should be going for a next board already.....can deal with no oc till a bios update but cant deal with a ton of issues at everything on stock.
I'm a member @ MSI's Global Site because I registered my Neo4 Plat there, and I have contacted them with this letter...
Dear MSI,
The whole enthusiest and overclocking community at many online forums such as XtremeSystems.org are eagerly awaiting a new BIOS for this board, as they believe as do I that this motherboard has some serious potential, but overclocking is severely limited at the moment because of a very buggy BIOS. Could you shed some light on the situation? Are new, better BIOS' in development? Thank you,
Nick
I'll post back any responces.
I posted this in another thread too btw.
Yeah, I saw that Nick. Thanks :)
But I doubt one letter will do the trick. Even if we just copy and paste Nick's email and send it again and again and again, it might get through to MSI that they need to get on the ball.
And Nick, would you mind sharing what email address you sent that to?
It's not an email address but a submit form like Giga-Bytes support. You can go here. http://support.msi.com.tw/index.php
There is also a thread going @ tehir forum.
http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=99769.0
But sadly, not much attention.
just submited a form and droped a line in the forum, everyone in this thread should do the same.
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Originally Posted by Core2Extremist
Its 100 percent stable at stock. My PD 950 will now do about 4.2 Ghz on all stock voltages, from there the problems start for me. The incorrect info being shown in bios is nothing major for me. The 12 volt is just read wrong in the bios but it is read correctly by Dual Core Center in windows. For stock use it should be fine for now. I really hope a new bios will allow us to OC better.
I agree. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Core2Extremist
BTW I emailed MSI as well, begging them for a bios update. I think you guys should also email/call them.
I just did the same.
Likewise :)
I get this as well, I can't believe that it's actually at 13.9, anyone w/ multimeter confirm this?; H/W Monitor will freeze on me w/ ram/cpu settings on auto if I let it idle for 2 minutes or more :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by demenion
I'm really concerned about this, it seems like such a nice board with such a poor bios.....
I would sure like to measure some voltage if anyone one knows where the points are. I'm almost sure that it's just being misread.
A BETA bios is available at the end of this thread (need to PM the moderator)
http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=99678.0
I PM'd him. :yepp:
Sweet, has anyone tried it? If you got the file and need/want a fast mirror, send me a PM.Quote:
Originally Posted by alternaria
Nice, hopefully this beta bios is good.
I wrote a new thread on the MSI forum asking for a better bios.
http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=99799.0
I hope so too. MSI forum is like this forum and MSI has nothing to do with it. No one there works for MSI or represents MSI. Emailing MSI direct will do more good.Quote:
Originally Posted by cupholder2.0
Already did that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
Good looking out, I too would like a new bios for the board
Anyone else having issues with powering on to a system hang if you wait like 8 hours. If I shut down and wait like 5 min the board fires right up, if I wait over night i get a sytem hang. Bios setting maybe?
This is funny, the MSI mod post pm him for a new bios and then he stays offline for 7 hours. I'm not sure why he just didn't post it.:(
Yea, I am waiting for the beta bios too. Gotta get off this POS 711 bios!Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
dont have the board yet but i pmd him also
so well see what happens
i was really looking forward to this board but unless a new bios that works well comes out soon I think I will go with either ds3 or possibly the foxconn 975xab
His PM Box is going to overflow! LOL.
I'll make a public folder on my site and host the BETA bios when I get the link and save it. I'll upload every official & beta release we get, so everyone will have a nice BIOS directory.
Thanks a lot :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
Hello all.
I have been reading the post’s here for a few months and decided to join. I have used amd for the past five years and got sucked into the Conroe madness (rookie overclocker).
I have the 975x with an e6300 (oem) and I am having the same problems with the bios (incorrect freq. In bios, 12v rail going to 13+,temp showing 180c in pc alert ect.).
I had it clocked at 325 today for a few hours on air (thermo. probe showing only 39c) but programs started locking. I tried upping the voltage but it would not boot out of bios.
Now I cannot clock past 305 for some reason.
My 975 chip gets very hot to the touch and I had to hang a fan on it.
I cannot get my single w.d. sata 300mbs drive to run in sata mode (ide mode works ok but drive runs slow) on any of the ich7r sockets because the Intel sata/ahci floppy did not load properly on install (showed that it did) and when I try and install the Intel driver package in xp it says my computer does not meet specifications?:confused:
Right now I have the drive running on the Jmicron sata 5 socket but I would like to know why xp does not see the southbridge sata ports.(hope it's not hosed).
Did anyone notice that page b-9 in the manual shows a Intel iaa raid driver setup but it’s not on the disc?
I had a random reboot twice today as well (running only 300 fsb).
I am using 2 gigs of xms2 (ddr800) and a msi x1900xt.
I will post my cpuz and pi screens later tonight.
Just wanted to say hi. I will test anything I can on my setup to help get these things fixed.
JD
Welcome to XS:welcome: If you are not using the 711 bios then that's your trouble. If you are you should be doing better. What psu? What volts on ram and cpu?Quote:
Originally Posted by roost
Welcome to the forum! A beta bios is to be released by MSI shortly. Hopefully many of this problems will be fixed.
I have this MSI 975x conroe ready board now but no conore cpu yet!
My retailer here in OZ says end of Aug for my choice of conroe...:(
But for the present, I fired this board up yesterday with my old 641 cpu and note that the fsb tops out at only 266mhz maximum option. Could this be because it is a cpu with default 200mhz fsb?
I don't think this is right, the board has latest official MSI bios - v7.0, thats the one listed on MSI.au website.
your not the only one with that problem, its a screwy bios and they are working on a new beta one right now that we should be able to test hopefully tomorrow....
ok, thanks Core2Extremist. Another annoying and confusing thing is if you wanna boot from a Raid config on ICH7R. In boot options of bios, its not listed !!! when config from Intels Raid bios. arrrrrggggg. :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Core2Extremist
Does anyone want me to start a thread on setting up this board in bios for the best performance and or overclocks? I have 7.0 bios figured out, there is not much for settings but this board clock for clock runs with the best of them. As of right now with my current settings I have rock solid stability and zero issues clocking a retail e6700 for pretty much all its worth on cheap water cooling. I can't go higher as cpu temps are reaching 60c, however I do have a better block coming. After all this I can now say this board is alright. I'm wondering if chipset voltage raise as fsb go's up.
:confused: Why would you want to make a thread for the best performance on a junk bios? Makes no sense to me.:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by rodman
Someone mentioned that they had a problem when putting optical drives on the second IDe controller? I can't seem to find the post so can someone reiterate what was already said. I'm planning to use four optical drives on the two IDE controllers.
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Originally Posted by rodman
Found it. Will this pose a problem for me? I will have 4 optical drives in total. Using both IDE controllers.
Using a hyper 580w psu.
I had voltage up to 1.31v at 330fsb. It will not boot from bios unless I power down (switch off psu) and re-boot (but it starts to run programs flaky). This is as stable as I can get it (see pics).
I think I need to up the 975x voltage to overclock more?
Is the 975x heat normal?
As of last night I am having a hard time booting from bios with any fsb change..
Also the Intel sataII drivers not loading is driving me nuts.
I paid for a 300mbs drive and can not run it at the speed in ide mode.
Being new to both Intel and ddr2 is not helping me at all. I also need to decide if I should rma the board to the egg by this week so I am under the gun to get it stable quick.
I only see 7.00 bios in the msi page.
Thanks.
http://www.savefile.com/files/5454095
Here's the link for the 714 bios.
"The connection has timed out." :(
Yeah, Dog, do you have the file? Send it to me in a PM so I can throw it on my server.
AAaanndd, rehosted. http://nickfire.com/msibios/975x-powerup/7246v714B.zip :D
Anyone try it out?
Nope, go flash ur bios. :D
lol why me first?
I have a question about winflash, how come I can't select reset CMOS and clear CMOS at the sametime when I have seen other people do it?
JUst flashed to 7.14B Can't se any changes in the bios. No new options.
Gone try a bit overcloking to see if i can get better fsb this time.
Edit: Well no miracel in the overcloking area eather :/ No changes from 7.11.
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Originally Posted by NickS
Thanks Nick. :toast:
I am running 714 too. Didn't see any changes in the bios. I still can't select higher than 265 FSB in bios. My 12v is a little more realistic but still wrong (12.5).
UPDATE:
I just tried Overclocking. On stock voltages and default settings, the 711 bios allowed me to go to 238 FSB. The 714 allows me to do 254 on stock settings. (Im still clocking). I guess thats one improvement. Ill update you guys on how far I can get.
w00t, improvements! :D
Yeah, at least there's that! We still need to see some vMCH though :woot:
GRR, im still not happy with the OC though. I topped out at 333 Mhz FSB with 14 mutli.
I took screen at 315x14
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6091/wimpyocpc9.jpg
:( :slapass:
Common MSI give us more bios options! vMCH, correct temp/volt readings. Get your own damn programs to read your temps correctly..
My voltage was 1.56 in the pick, but it was being read as 1.43. wtf!
http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=99831.new#new
Everyone look and post what you want.
What do you guys think "PCI Express Voltage" is for? :rolleyes:
It is exactly the same thing as VMCH voltage.
Setting it to 1.7V from bios equals 1.75V on my board.
^^^ I told them that a few pages back but I guess they didnt read it. :(
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=174
heh, sorry JasonDTM, must've jumped right over your post! :wasntme: :zombie:
The Stilt, what does 1.75v do for you on the board (ie. got any OC results? ;))
Wrong, we read it but didn't think that it went hand in hand that much.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by JasonDTM
We figure the names that are colored are the one we should read more closer. Sometime we need a good :slap: so we can learn.
Well, I would have guessed that that option only adjusts how much voltage is supplied to the PCIe slot and only the PCIe slot through the chipset. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
But whatever...
Hi I've just flashed the bios to 714
Noticed so far that:
+12v reads correctly in bios
FSB frequency (for Celeron-waiting for my E6600) is 133-166
Does that affect PCI-E voltage as well though? Don't wanna end up killing a graphics card... :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
I've ordered my board today with an E6300. I was going to get the E6600 but I'm saving the cash for Kentsfield.
The website said 5-7 days so hopefully by then I can start ripping the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out of it.
I've downloaded the beta BIOS in anticipation. Keep us updated on the new features and any improvements.
Raging Dragon, where did you buy from? Tempted to go with either Scan or Komplett... Scan I could get an E6600 now, but I have a £50 voucher at Komplett if I can wait a few weeks for the CPU to come into stock :devil:
Tip, run the memory 1:1 or you will have boot problems just like all the other 975X mobos;) Make sure all your memory settings are on manual or you will have issues. Then you will pass 400 fsb no problem, assuming your cpu and ram are up to it.
Also I would not call it a junk bios, I'm flying along without a single issue.
It seems like some options in the BIOS are "lost in translation" to some people. It seems like there are some irregular naming of options. What nationality where the people who designed this BIOS? I'm guessing they weren't Americans (thus the "lost in translation").
Wow, and you're on the 7.0 BIOS as well :eek: good stuff!Quote:
Originally Posted by rodman