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Originally Posted by xgman
p4c800 works great. reads everything but voltages.
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Originally Posted by xgman
p4c800 works great. reads everything but voltages.
Touch the heat pipes at the base.If they aren't hot , you're not making good contact.Easy as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by redpriest
What do you mean by "wall"? How stable is it there?Quote:
Originally Posted by redpriest
just in . . . . .
It isn't very stable at 3.733 - dual prime95 causes a reboot in under a minute.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gautam
BTW, Max multiplier is 40.
haha, indeed. 3.466 on air is right about on par with expectations. 3.6-3.8 would be ideal but since so few chips are out, there's no telling what "average" is. I think with water you'd see a nice increase but you'll definately get 4+ w/ your promie. If not, then it's time to shop for memory ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by redpriest
i've heard good things about g-skill... and corsair has the tightest timings of all pc2 6400 but that will run you $400+
Personally, I'm going mushkin:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146108
It actually differs in most cases from chip to chip and board to board. Some are way off, some only a little bit and some not at all as is evident from your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxmartin
True, the sensors are normally good but unless they get calibrated its just a accurate scale, with an misaligned dial.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoYd
JUST the guy I wanted to see fire one up!Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
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Originally Posted by charlie
hey charlie, what's up? ;)
I just hope that I don't have to install a $65 celeron simply to flash my P5WDH. It shipped with bios 502, so I guess I'll see if it boots with the retail stepping. I'll tell you one thing, I'm going to tighten those thumb nuts on my waterblock so the springs look like washers to make sure I have good contact.
0502 is supposed to work with retail conroe
are you using Lga775 socket waterblocks?Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
looking forward to see a second "experience" :p:
same ^^
Storm G5 has all the mounts in the kit.Quote:
Originally Posted by noktekniq
I haven't actually seen anyone post this yet. not even Asus could tell me for sure. I guess I'll know soon enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
it's in intel forum for a while. i thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Finally, an answer to the mysterious 0502 Bios coming soon!
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Originally Posted by Absolute_0
didnt work with mine, mine was doa.. cant tell if its the bios or not,, FCG hot flashed my chip for me and its on its way back now.
but if it dont work then the board is flat out dead. and im gunna be seriously peeved. and if newegg thinks they are not giving me my money back they got another thing coming.
why wouldn't they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
So how high is it clocking? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Well, lol, after a failed OC run at 3.733 ghz, the voltage options won't change again, so stuck below 3.466.
Flashed to an older bios and now flashing to a newer bios and then reapplying my itk changes. This is really really annoying.
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Originally Posted by redpriest
Thats what you get for using a pile of :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: board. I just sold my XBX, couldn't stand the damn thing. :slapass:
It's not working again. I wish Intel would stop being overprotective.
Pull out the battery, worked for me when that happened.
I am rather concerned, as many others are I'm sure by this rather poor overclockability. Was really looking forward to getting an X6800 retail in hopes that the newer stepping would allow for much better clocking, but I guess that won't be the case. :-/ From how my 6700 did, I expected 4.2 fully stable and 4.5 benchable to be doable on simple single stage cooling...however this would require around 4.1GHz benchable on air which doesn't seem to be even close to happening.
It is very odd though...historically the highest end chips from Intel have always been a clear step ahead of the rest. (955XE vs 940, 670 vs 660, even Dothan 780 vs 770, etc) Hopefully this is only one blip on the radar. (Sorry redpriest :p:)
THANK YOU GAUTAM. You are the man, you are right, it did work.
What a quirky POS.
Yeah, lol, I really really hope I've just missed something with regards to my setup. Having to settle for less than 3.7 ghz on air is going to be tough, especially if everyone else starts blowing past me!
Dude i'd be happy OC' the 6800 i ordered to 3.2Ghz right now with a Tower120 cooler. i'm not even bothring thinking about 3.6Ghz or more :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by redpriest
Prime95 appears to be stable at 3.733ghz at 1.6v, though coretemp screams at me for temperatures past 85C. EDIT: I lied, it's not stable at that, but it's *almost*
POST at 4.0 ghz, can't get into windows at any voltage.
anythign above 85C crazyQuote:
Originally Posted by redpriest
Now we're (you're) getting somewhere ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by redpriest
Did you changed the cooler yet ? you have a very bad temp problem..Quote:
Originally Posted by redpriest
I changed the cooler a long time ago.
Tech report couldn't get their review sample past 3.466 ghz. It's exhibiting the exact same behavior mine is, except mine is better - it will get into Windows NP at 3.733 ghz.
Maybe intel tuned down the clocking on the Step 6 chips :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by redpriest
0502 works with ES chip @ 1.57V air..Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
B2 retail supossed to scale the same if not better..
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/1...shot0751df.jpg
I'm really hoping that some of the experienced XS members pick up the X6800 retail stepping and show us reliably what this chip is capable of. Not to bash the current X6800 owners but I don't know how reliable your OC skills are. Give it some more time and we should see some X6800 under some more single-stage, LN2, and air.
The only reason I could think of about the bad clocks on this cpu is that he isnt just using one thread for a test of stablity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
On my T2600, I can Pi all day @ 3095 mhz, but dare I fire up any game or encode on two threads and it will reboot in less than 5 minutes.
One single pi is not a test for stablity - only two is still :)
Heres my X6800 Stepping 5 at 3.6ghz, water
Things are getting warm :slobber:
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2337/prime2fe.th.jpg
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Originally Posted by Nightprowler_77
Any more details on water setup?
http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img06281xc.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by fhpchris
2 x dual heatercores
DangerDEn TDX
1/2 "
Swiftech MCP655
Used to keep my Prescott@ 4.0ghz belov 40C full load...
I had to increase the vcore to 1.48 cause dual priming gave me random reboots... But I haven`t seen prime failed the way it shuold yet...
Right now I `m priming 3.6ghz at 1.38v. Stable for 15 min so far...
Maybe It`s something wrong with mobo (Asus P5W/DH/Deluxe) causing those reboots
I might shell out some dough this weekend to upgrade my water cooling setup (I have an old Koolance that I was using for my K7 box back in the day), and see how the Conroe performs on that. It will at least tide me over until the socket 775 adapter arrives for my prometia mach 2 gt.
Prime shows 300 x 12 as your settings. can you please confirm that multis greater than 11x are enabled for you with the X6800 which i presume is a retail one? ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Nightprowler_77
It`s the B1 rev.Quote:
Originally Posted by simonmaltby
12 multi is enabled with bios 604.
Thanks... i'm after confirmation that retail X6800's have upwards of 11x unlocked on the P5W DH before i switch from 6700 to 6800.... if one of the few could confirm please ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightprowler_77
I know they should, but i would like some verifiable data :)
I don't have the Asus board, but I do know my retail x6800 has multipliers unlocked above 11 up to 40 (!).
Anand's review has his Core 2 Duo X6800 reaching 4 ghz on air - unfortunately, he is also using the stepping 5 ES, so there's another data point for stepping 5 being pretty good and stepping 6 not so good. Tech-report seems to be stuck, like me, at 3.466 ghz with a voltage increase. Maybe they have a stepping 6 or maybe they have a bad stepping 5 sample, who knows?
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Originally Posted by simonmaltby
Here with multi 14 :)
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2025/prime31bx.th.jpg
Well it's not only the badaxe that has this problem. I don't know about the overclocking yet, but the Asus P5WDH mysteriously doesn't post either and then the pull of the battery etc. brought it back a couple times, but now it won't even post after the battery removal and jumper clear, so I don't know if it's dead or not. Tonight I'll have to put the stupid celeron that I had to use to flash the bios to get the 6800 to work in the first place back in and see if the asus is alive and then re try the 6800, if it is. Something aint quite right here folks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gautam
My P5W DH dropped dead in an odd fashion. First, it stopped being able to run CrossFire, then one of the PCI-E slots went kaput entirely, then the other one. Now it seems like it rarely posts (keyboard flash) but never displays video, regardless of CPU...have a Conroe, Presler and Celly. I hope yours doesn't suffer the same fate.
be carefull at 1.6v because 1.65 may have killed mine. It booted to a dos prompt at 1.65 (under water) temps were high 30's in the hardwrae monitor in the bios, but then I shut it down from the dos prompt, went to bed and no boot this morning. I won't know till later, but I suspect the 1.65 may have sent it over the edge even for that short a time. Unless the board is just wacked completely for some other reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by redpriest
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Originally Posted by Gautam
do you get a post beep? I get none.
This board has never beeped for me. Then again I've never tried hooking a speaker up to it. The Bad Axe seems to have one onboard.
I wouldn't fret about the 1.65v...that shouldn't hurt it. Besides that its much much harder to kill a CPU than a motherboard.
The MB situation on the core 2 is pathetic.
:-/
I'm willing to grant Asus that I got one of the bad apples. I did push it pretty hard as well. But if more people start cropping up with problems...it could be a big issue to say the least, which would be a shame because it is an excellent board when it functions.
dang redpriest, that sucks. E6600 B1s do 3800-4000+ prime stable easily @ 1.55-1.6
You sure that voltage is ok on these 65nm cpus?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gautam
Yeah, I think its ok in that it won't harm them in the slightest. Whether its optimal or not is a different story. I found my best clocks at 1.5875 on a Mach II.
Whatever the problem is, it is distressing. If the celeron boots in the asus, I'll reflash the asus to a different bios and see if that helps recocgnize the 6800, but it is still unclear to me where the bios rev cutoff is for recognizing the 6800. I only tried 502 (no go) and 701 (yes).
have you guys contacted asus for RMA's
you need to
make them aware of the issue and potentially larger issue.
its bad enough there IS an issue with DOA boards. now they are dieing out in the field ?
let them know get an rma,,,
That sucks xgman - I had the situation when I clocked mine too high and ran prime95 2x and it froze. When I powered it off, it wouldn't turn back on again. I had to go into maintenance mode to do anything, and I had to remove the battery to get my voltage settings to work. The 975x appears to be a huge hassle compared to other chipsets =/
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Originally Posted by redpriest
I only wish the asus had any sort of maintenance or rescue mode to get a post. I hold out some small hope that it actually is the board and not the cpu. At least I can get another board. Intel says weeks to replace any cd2's.
By the way, why on earth would asus place the battery under the vid card so that you have to remove the cid card entirely before each reset? Sheesh!..
First thing I did naturally. They told me earlier this week that they could cross ship. Then a couple of days later I was told that it was too new and they didn't have any. So I could send it in for a "repair"...which I don't trust at all, I want a new board. So I'm doing it through the retailer now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Ok, I think I figured ou the trouble with the asus board and probably the reports of high temps.
The good news is the 6800 lives. After removing and replacing everything on the board and working with asus tech to figure out the beep codes (since the celeron didn't post either except for some beep codes), I took off the block and noticed there are some mounting issues aggrevated by some very close caps etc that rise above the level of the cpu. Also is your sink/block is hitting any of the caps or voltage regulators that putting pressure on those black square IC's can cause problems. In addition even with a spreader on, the Intel mounting clip is suspect in causing the heatsink (of any type) to rock slightly while tightening. The flatness and stability of the AMD64 socket make it far easier to get a flat and unobstructed mount. In any case, by some twisting and turning and trial and error mounting I was able to get the celeron and then the 6800 to post.
Thanks for tip, perhaps there is yet hope for me. :D
Come to think of it, my Tuniq Tower (used for all of my air testing) has trouble playing nicely with the caps. It either ends up on top of them or pushing them a little bit outward. More messing around to do for sure in that case.
Yeah, I was very careful when I mounted my heatsink, the raised caps on the top end of the mobo could have hindered my setup, but I made very sure I had good clearance on it.
When you say you were able to get it to POST, are you able to get into an OS stably?
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Originally Posted by redpriest
I haven't even messed around with the ops sys yet. I'm so pissed that apparently my Storm G5 does not make good enough contact even though it appears to visually it doesn't. Barely touches. That creates a dilema for me. The G5 is the best you can get. Now I have to compromise for something less effective, not even sure what will fit. That socket is very touchy. In fact another problem I have is a internal socket pin is bent out of shape. That may have been part of the problem before.
With the stock sink and at stock speed/vcore in bios the temp was like 31. With the same stock sink at 3300 and 1.48vcore the bios temp was like 45. In any case I'm kind of stuck till I get a replacement board and ?>?? block. Ahh, the good ole 939 days. Miss them already. I'll wait for the new board and block before I do much more.
yeah on badaxe there's only way orientation you can go for swiftech g4 storm waterblockQuote:
Originally Posted by redpriest
http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...975XBX_039.JPG http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...975XBX_047.JPG http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...975XBX_042.JPG http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...975XBX_052.JPG
I installed water cooling on my retail conroe (ThermalTake symphony mini tower). I am at 3.733 ghz at 1.55v. CoreTemp reports 85C (lol), but there is no way it is that hot. The waterblock isn't even that warm.
Things appear to be stable after 22min of priming...
Overclock or not, I still not convinced that these blocks are making good contact for whatever reason with such high temps.
:slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by redpriest
You should never support TT water cooling. Their quality is sub par and high-end air cooling could probably match that.
Its ok to water cool 975 NB chip with the right NB block.Quote:
Originally Posted by BWR
I can't fathom it either, either these things put out a monstrous amount of heat at those clock speeds and voltages, or I've got the waterblock mounted wrong. I had to disassemble the TT cooling tower because one of the fans didn't work. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
I've tried various degrees of pressure, various greases, various methods of cooling. Water cooling gets me 3.733, where as air didn't.
I had to up voltage slightly (1.56~) for stability - prime95 at 46min and counting. Wonder with temps of 83C-85C am I going to see premature death? =P
I've been trying to figure out how to get a TT symphony tower apart to fix a fan. How did you do it? I thought the screens were just press in but they seem fastened somehow :(Quote:
Originally Posted by redpriest