I have had a statement written up by my lawyer and will now be contacting the attorney general in Nevada on his advice.
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I have had a statement written up by my lawyer and will now be contacting the attorney general in Nevada on his advice.
I have no stake in this other than a friend of mine is one of the burned and spurned. Due to recent changes in the bankruptcy law, a person is not allowed to just file bankruptcy and have his debts absolved. They are now legally required to file a repayment plan and make actual payments to their debtors. Due to the amount of laws broken in this particular case, noone would have any trouble in a court of law and honestly should pursue that. Making it a class action suit would also help considering the amount of people and the amount of money. Everyone needs to get together on some front so you can all guarantee some sort of satisfaction in this matter. Business and your personal life should never mix and it is not the consumer that should suffer in cases like this. The business must satisfy the consumer. THat is the law.
Please let us know how things proceed.Quote:
Originally Posted by computerpro3
As b1lk1 suggests, maybe we should figure out a way to work together on this....
well he has my Vapo LS I bought from freecableguy and $$$ I sent him to modify unit. I'm hoping he'll come through, but getting depressed as it's alot of $$$ I have tied up in this WAY TOO LONG NOW!!!!!!!!!
JNav89GT: Think about the guys with dual and tripple heads units or cascades -> much more money than you spent...
We're talking about 1xxx-2xxx $ and not only about 1xx-500$.... In fact it's a lot of money too...
I've contacted Reg again and I really hope that he starts to ship units ASAP!
hey I understand everyone else too! I'm just saying this isn't something I anticipated. Reg did work for me in the past and was good guy. Hopefully he can get his $hit straight and get this fixed ASAP!
The constant promise of shipping and the constant lack of keeping promises basically makes this guys word worth nothing. Basically he is stalling to keep it out of the courts. Court action is long overdue and there is no other option since this guy cannot fullfill his legal contracts with people. Sure life kicks you in the balls, but business should never ever be mixed with personal issues. That is what happened here. It is not the customer's fault, and if we were talking about some other company then this thread would be only full of hate. He has had the chance of a lifetime to fix all this BS and has not. I find it incredible that this site harbors a criminal like this and makes no effort to either distance themselves or make it right. It is not XS's responsibility to do anything, but they should not allow him to promote himself here anymore as well. Anyone foolish enough to send this guy more money/business deserves it. Although I am sure that if any of his cronies did just that, they would be placed infront of all the other guys in this thread that have basically been left hung out to dry. This is fraud, plain and simple. Repeated lies about shipping is fraud. Not providing a product for monies paid is fraud. Time to do a class action suit like the one agains justin davies. That is the only way most of the guys left hanging in the wind wille ever see anything, even if it is just justice.
This goes for everone:
If you are not on either end of the situation, please stay out of the thread. At this point, the customers are out of patience (and I imagine) very frustrated by the situation. No words of wisdom will coax them through...almost all are at the point where either it gets resolved or they take legal action. Unfortunately this is the case, but that's what it has come to.
We are all looking at lots of money. If you combine our "mod" fee with our hardware -- let's say conservatively $800.00 for a new Vapo or a Mach -- We Are All Out Well Over $1K!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Entsafter
I even purchased a DICE set from him. 1 of the SLI tubes was leaking -- ha ha (surprise). So, when I factor that in, I'm out close to $2K. (He wanted me to return the faulty DICE tube for replacement -- like I would have ever seen that again). I tried to leverage that in by saying that I would let that slide -- "Just send me my unit and we'll clean the slate." Hmm, seems like that was about April.
Response? -- "You'll have it in a couple of days."
I am glad I have gone public now as people should know what is going on with this. Sad, Sad State of Affairs.
If anyone has any ideas on how to proceed, please send me a PM. My patience has run out.
I do understand everyones concerns and I hear it every day. It is most important that Reggie stays afloat and most importantly stays with us.
People want resolution and this has truely gone on far too long.
Wkmgt, I will send what we discussed. Money was made from block sales through runmc recently and that will go to you.
I cannot afford to pay Reggies debt but can I do more to help you guys. Stand on me (in PM) if you have to, I am ok with that as I have a billion things going on.
We have not lost Reggie nor do I want to, so please be civil and all is not lost.
Ill see what I have to sell, if you see something you like then speak up.
Thanks for letting us know someone cares. It gets tough when you pay for something and wait 12+ months for your thing. In my case I wanted to complete this build and sell the machine, but it's been so long now that I will never recoup my $$$ spent. I am not bitter tho as my rig will sing once the cascade is installed. I think we all wish Reggie would keep to his promises so we know what to expect and more importantly, when to expect it. I don't want to see Reggie leave or any foul come to him. He's a decent guy that life has dealt a crappy hand to in the past year.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Thanks again for your comments.
I agree to a point. The problem I have is his consistency in not living up to his obligations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philly_Boy
If you say you are going to do something -- Do It!! If you can't, then tell people instead of brushing it off as if we are all Morons. (Well, OK, I guess I am 1 for attempting to do business with him).
How many times do you have to hear his false promises and lame excuses? Enough Said....
WOW!!
Very well said. I too am in the exact same situation. About a year ago I bought all of the parts for a brand new build that I was going to put together with the cascade I had bought, but have yet to see. I've since sold all of those parts, sold my main computer, bought a Macintosh and vowed not to come back to PC's but that didn't last but only about 4 months. I've finally built another rig, albeit a cheap arse rig, I've been bitten once again by the OC'in bug and would love to see this unit come through for me as I have a few things that I'd like to toss under that -100* chilly goodness :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Philly_Boy
Whatdya say Reggie... Stoppin' screwin' us all around and start shippin' some units. This should be a good time of year for you to get some serious work done on these things and get them all shipped before christmas. :woot:
AmenQuote:
Originally Posted by FragTek
Well I don't see the point of him lying to me and everyone else when all of us don't mind waiting. If he says give him 1 month, I would and I think so will you guys.
I have kept quiet all these while waiting and calling him. HE told me he shipped my unit and all I needed was a tracking number. Today I called him, he does not even answer the phone. Just bloody give me the phone number of the freight forwarder and I will call them to get the tracking number if it is so hard to do. I left a message with my number and he still does not call back. For someone who stood by him, encouraged him and willing to wait for his units - I have really lost my patience! 1 year and 3 months and out $1XXX...........
No point BS-ing us everyday and make us think we are going to get our units in a week, it just makes the situation worse. Make an effort to do things right man. BS does not solve it.........
If I don't get my unit by 1st of November, I will be flying to Vegas to demand for my money. I don't even want to bother with the 3 head unit anymore. I don't mind paying more and ask someone like Jinu to make me one - at least you can see the progress of your unit and the unit actually gets shipped!
My initial order:
3 head 3 compressor unit
Carbon Fiber case
LCD Controller
Benching mounts on the case
Now he said:
3 head 3 compressor unit
THATS IT!
And even that I didn't mind. I am even paying shipping for the second time to get my unit fast. Still not shipped!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by kcnyc
Sad to know that even those who sent him thousands are being screwed. It has occurred to me to call him on several occasions, however, based on this thread I shouldn't even feel pissed for being out a few hundred and don't even feel like calling, I'm sure I'll be led on to no result like everyone else.
He broke the several week lack of communication today with this
More BS considering Fugger gave it to him....Quote:
Originally Posted by reggie
I replied with this
I don't think he realizes how serious I am. At this point while the money is certainly a consideration and I do need it badly, if I don't get it back, I might as well absolutely bury him.Quote:
I hope so for your sake, because I have already paid to have a statement written by my lawyer and I am getting in contact with the Nevada attorney general on her advice.
I am also working with several members that you have also scammed and we have a nice sizable total dollar amount that we’re out. The officials will take this seriously due to the staggering amount of money involved; I’ve verified that with my lawyer. At this point I simply don’t believe you and I am filing charges regardless of whether or not you email me again or call me or give me any more excuses. You’re going to pay for this (when you think about it, thanks to you I’m now out $1250 not just $625), and the only way you’re getting out of this one is if my unit appears on my door before you’re on trial or I have 625 in my paypal account first. Of course, if I receive the unit, all charges will be withdrawn.
I hope for your sake you get that unit shipped out; I’m getting my money back one way or the other. The only question is, are you willing to have your assets seized and go bankrupt in the process?
It’s up to you Reggie. It’s up to you.
He's put me through so much hell I will enjoy excercising the legal process to the utmost extent. Greatly. And you can bet your ass he'll be paying for any legal fees too.
@ Reggie: Pls post pics of the units you have finished! I'm still optimistic and afaik pics can stop the customers for a while to take legal actions against you...
It's your turn, do something!
Reggie, please let me know if you shiped my meter (UEI DT200).
Almost 4 months wainting...
thanks
He picked up my call yesterday and said that he will show some pics soon. Again.......hopefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by Entsafter
Same here... I've called him a few mins ago and he told me that he will show pics and update the thread...
It's good to know that he's still there and works hard to get everyone "happy".
Posting pictures will do nothing to resolve this matter, nor will it stop the impending legal proceedings as they are already in motion.
I would like everyone who has been scammed by chilly1 to pm me excatly what they were scammed out of and the exact dollar value. Obviously I can't promise that I can get your stuff back but if we get the dollar value high enough they will take us seriously.
Its just been way to long he has made too many exuses every time we hear from him its the same :banana::banana::banana::banana:. I love how he says he is working 100 hours a week to get out units out and nothing gets done. I think hes just trying to hold this off till everyone gives up so we all need to just get together and sue him. I dont care if he goes bankrupt and loses everythign anymore he has proven time and time again that he doesnt care about us and he is not working on any units. Im at a point i want to see him pay for this and in a horrible way. Because its only then he will realize what he ahs done.
I will be going to Vegas around the 13th of November. Anybody will be there? I hope to get there and get my money back. I don't want the chilly1 unit when I get there, I will take the money and put it into Jinu's hands.
That's the plan, I'm working on it. My lawyer says the police won't give a crap and the only way to do it is through the attorney generalQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptainLog
Anyway to do this as a class action so that all of us pitch in a little on lawyer costs and get some money back and/or results? My last PM from him said to wait until the end of this month and he'd be sending some stuff out so I'm willing to wait until then.
He's got my VapoLS+$1250USD of my money though and I've been waiting since late Oct. 2005 IIRC which is good and long enough, so if this is just a delay tactic I'm with you on pressing charges.
OK guys I am getting stuff done.. Really.. . We need to get everything cleared up before bankrupcy or we all lose..... Let me finish this, computerpro3 your unit is done and shipping today... KC yours is back and repacked and will ship on wed or thursday .. that will be all that is getting done this week and I will get more done next week. I will post pictures tonight.. stay tuned.Quote:
Originally Posted by kcnyc
Give me a few more weeks to get a good run on this.. And have your lawyer call me directly so I can put him in touch with my bankrupcy attorney. These units were done for the members of this site nothing more there was o business involved just my hobby, I had planned to make this a business but I got ripped off by a few people here that I had gotten condensers and controllers with as well as a fe peeps over seas.. I am owed money for parts sent to england, I have 16 controllers that do not work as stated and I got my paypal closed due to Justin and his sending my X money... So tell me I was doing these units at about cost and then about 10,000 in cash and material and money owed to me dissapeared so what do I get just sh<<T on by everyone.. Computer pro three I have gotten 10 confusing emails from I am sending your unit back completed and I am sending you shipping as I said I would no more.Quote:
Originally Posted by computerpro3
I have not broken any law nor scammed anyone I am doing my best to get this cleared...Quote:
Originally Posted by b1lk1
Computerpro3 unit Today Under leak test Charging in 5 hours and shipping in 7 hours now 3 :50 AM....
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=52425
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=52426
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=52427
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=52428
please make sure it ships with proper mounting equipment and insulation for s939 and LGA775. I sent everything I had when I shipped it out
Please ship my dual-head finally, Reggie...
C3, Will do... Sorry for the delays. Again
Comp3 I am including the new mounting and hold down as I replaced the lineset and block, the damage to teh unit was the usual forthe mach1's the coil's top tube had shipping damage... I will ship this insured with enough coverage.... Charging it up now... Temps and photos in a few.
Never saw this thread and didn't even think to look until I PM'ed fugger.
10/2005
I'd like my refund ASAP, I've e-mailed Reggie. Just sort of subscribing here.
Reggie, what's the status on my cascade? Got any pix for me?
Still no tracking info, but he's 3 hours behind me.
so what do I get just sh<<T on by everyone..
Gee whiz, I wonder why?
Where is my unit chilly1?
How many times have you told me I'd have the unit?
I remember PMs you sent me months ago saying my unit was way behind and mine would be the first 1 shipped.
My latest offer was, "You can keep the unit, just send me back the cash" (I should never have sent.) I was simply trying to cut my loss.
I can't really say everything I want to say because it will be edited and / or deleted. (Just a hint -- he's been threatening the bancruptcy thing for about 6 months).
Wah Wah Wah
No it wont;)Quote:
Originally Posted by wkmgt
Can you please tell me when my kit is shipping?
It's simply comical at this point; still no tracking number. We should place bets on how many times he's going to be able to lie before the authorites grab him.
DUDE PLEASE STOP BEING RUDE THERE IS NO NEED FOR THIS, I DO HAVE TO WORK FOR A LIVING NOT LIKE YOUR 40 HOUR A WEEK VACATION JOB....
One single stage just won't cut it dude. How about those two heads, cascades and triple heads man?
Something is better than nothing but making the situation worse with harsh comments can sure bitter the situation quickly.
Please retain some tact, maybe approach the sitation where he would be inclined to answer you with respect vs what may come as an equil reply in spite.
I see that he is making an effort to get things done on this end so please encourage that.
We see how you guys are out for blood and total :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::b anana:s to get some self satisfaction in kicking reggie while he is down and this needs to stop.
Computerpro3, you amaze me. Reggie was up late working on your unit, you can see that in post times, you can see progress, you can see it was just gassed and testing yet you post on the same day "It's simply comical at this point; still no tracking number." chill the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out, yours is up now so let him get it done so that it works correctly when you get it.
babalou, I need to cure more mounting kits but we should be able to assemble a few with remaining parts. PM me address and I will get Reggie the box w/ label.
Fugger, you amaze the rest of us. That was not the first time we've had pictures and promises. I have personally been lied to in excess of twenty five times. Excuse me if I don't believe him. Not to mention the unit was supposedly fixed a YEAR AGO.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
Allright the first unit to ship in the last 3 months thats some real progress. So what is the deal with my unit?
Reggie,Quote:
Originally Posted by computerpro3
Is there some rhyme or reason to the order you are producing units?
Are you banging out the SS's first as they're less complicated and
saving the more complex multi head units and cascades for later?
Or are you getting out units to those who've been waiting the longest
regardless of what that unit is?
As of 10/15 it's been officially over a year now since my initial order.
Man, I am really trying to be patient like many other's here, but I sure
do wish you'd let us know whose unit is the next one produced and establish
an order of who's next and so on so I know how far down the list I am.
Understood,
Its taking its toll on me as well. I am doing what I can to motivate him but the negative comments are discouraging make things even harder for me to assist.
Quote:
Originally Posted by computerpro3
UPDATE:
Gave chilly1 a call just a few min. ago after he PM'd his phone number to me and he called me right back stating he'd be sending out units every few days now, he mentioned he had some help and business coming in now so he could concentrate on getting our units out the door. He did apologize about the wait too and his several statements to wait another few weeks/months/etc. as he kept having unexpected set backs with his cash flow and work and those who said they'd help him then backing out after he'd already said stuff was being worked on. Certainly bad business planning but I don't think he is out to screw anyone and he did seem very busy.
He also mentioned the controllers are big issue ATM, quite a few DOA's, so he ships alot or all of his units now with a bypass switch so you can at least turn it on with out the controller installed if it breaks so you don't have to ship the whole unit back to him for repair. He also said that there was something like a 3-4 month back order on the controllers.... I told him if necessary to ship mine with out the controller if the wait is going to be that bad and he said that is OK too, he could always send out the controller later, he said it was very easy to install as the harness is already set up inside the unit case or he could send one.
He did also say he had sent out some units already to other people but they hadn't been posting that they'd recieved them on the forums, he sounded frustrated as this had made him look bad, particularly with what computerpro had been saying. I hope those other people speak up if this is true, I certainly know that I'll give and update if/when I receive my phase change system.
That is all the news I have for now.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mesyn191
(Shrug) it's not my fault he had my unit for over a year. He's the only one making himself look bad.
Not saying it was or that your comments were unjustified, just reporting his side of things. We'll see how it goes.
Finally its Wednesday, and the promise of a tracking number. Let's see how this goes. :)
I wonder who got the SS's he's been shipping out.Quote:
Originally Posted by mesyn191
Its Thursday.......I want to see a tracking number or a shipping receipt at least. No pics?Quote:
Originally Posted by chilly1
It's actually Friday night. . . . .and still no word. C'mon, Reggie, let us know what's going on!Quote:
Originally Posted by kcnyc
Ok guys, I just got off the phone with him. Got into a heated exchange with him and a truthful and insightful conversation with Reggie. Well alot of things is happening to him now and he is in dire straits financially.
Just to tell you from my conversation with him, he is at the point where he might just packup one day and disappear. I was angry too before I heard that, and I realize that he is really at a corner now.
My advice to you guys - give him time. He will make good on it. Although me myself has not gotten my unit yet, I don't want someone's life getting destroyed over my unit or my money. He stumbled and might have used our money for something else, but I don't mind stepping back and giving someone a chance to get up again. Rebuilding is hard guys, and destroying is pretty easy. I seriously hope everyone to take my advice and really don't push him - he is trying to make good on everything. I don't see any point in destroying someone's life over a 10 or 20 thousand dollars.
I have never talked to Reggie like I did today before, and I think he himself understood that I was already at the end of the line in terms of my patience. But without this talk we had, I would've have really gone thinking that he was really out to scam me also. Now, I am right be him 100% - not for the things he did, but for trying to rebuild and make it right for all of us again. From the conversation, I can tell you he is really trying and really going the distance to make ends meet and finish our units. I know I have heard this before, but this is the 1st time I have ever heard it so REAL and TRUTHFUL before.
Well he said he will be making good on the units. Why don't just step back and wait for a while more - what else have you got to lose? You guys have waited so long, give it a lilttle more time. Its hard to rebuild......give him a chance man.
Btw this post is not coaxed by Reggie. Everything I said is right straight from the bottom of my heart.....and I kinda feel pity for him. I don't want someone to disappear and run. Its hard and I don't want to meet Reggie one day in a dumpster or begging or something man. I treasure life and all its experiences good and bad, and I don't want to make Reggie's life worse than it currently is.
I know its a U-TURN for me, but I really felt his sincerity in our conversation to make good on the units. Just takes time to make the money to buy the materials for our units. :) Everyone has been through financial problems before and it sucks big time, especially we overclockers who spend way too much on our PCs. And I hope you can take the role of that someone that gave you a helping hand.
Don't flame me......its how I feel now. :)
:up: for kcnyc.
way to go kcnyc :toast: hopefully others will follow you. I have to give reggie a call some day, back when he had time to socialize, it was him who inspired me to pick up a torch. I only need some gas and a couple of tools (dont have cash right now), and I'll have a perfectly good single stage. (Reggie if you get to read this, hi :))
That's very compassionate kc, here's to hoping reggie will get back on his feet.:toast:
Bravo kc! Nice speach sir. This is how I've felt for months now, as I've had one of these "heart-to-heart" (i know that sounds gay but what else do u call it :p:)phone convo's with him awhile ago. I believe that one day, everything will be straightened out and all loose ends tied. How long? Nobody knows. I have $2200 riding on the line here, and have for 11 months now, and still willing to wait it out. Get back on your feet Reggie, the guys at XS need ya and are pullin' for ya.
Well said FragTek and KCNYC. I also have had some of these deeper heart-to-heart talks with Reggie. What I will wind up doing is including a CPU block in the wc'ing loop I am making for my 7950's. I'll live with a wc'd rig til he can get it together and get my cascade built. Not that I wanna be put to the back of the line mind you. . .I hope he is building the units in some kind of order so that the guys who have their money on deposit with him the longest are the closest to getting their units. I'll be having good thoughts for Reggie that he can stay afloat personally and that his HVAC business nets him enough profit so he can knock out a 2-3 of our units a month. I'd love to get my cascade by Christmas this year.
If Reggie could somehow publish a list of those who are still waiting and the order they will be getting their rigs, it would make it a LOT easier for us to have more patience.
I have seen some posts here which sounds like they want EVERYTHING that Reggie has. That is not right, even a business has limited liabilities guys. som of you have such harsh words that if the roles were reverse you wish that Reggie didn't say to you. So why say it to him now? Its just like how it is in UFC, if you kick or punch the guy while he is defenseless and down - he will never get up. And what will that do for us waiting for the units? Sometimes sticks and stones don't hurt as much as words do. As it really hurt what's inside someone - their self esteem and self confidence. How can you expect him to do his best work with these traits at an all time low?
I know you guys are angry. Heck I am angry, that he spent or lost our money somewhere somehow, but what does anger do to you? Makes you easily irritated, make waiting for the unit so much more stressful and makes you age faster with all that anguish. Why not just give Reggie a call and give him some encouragement and some "heart to heart" talk like FragTek said? Don't get into an argument, just listen and tell him how you felt about the deal. Its a better motivator than fear(of losing his life and bankruptcy) and threats.
If Reggie is in a bind now and asks me for a $100 dollars, I would give it to him. I would even give him $500 if he needs it to get back on his feet. $500 to change someone's life, can't beat that! lol Heck I just lent Dumo a few hundred when he really needed the money. And believe me its so satisfying to be able to help someone, especially with money. Coz first of all, money can be earned again and replenished. And secondly, the guy is grateful you helped him out. Its the warm feeling inside. And I think all of you guys who waited for more than a year has already recovered from the money you spent on your units. Seriously, I am quite close to opening a save Chilly1 fund. heheheh Anybody with excess money please donate for this cause. :)
Anger and threats don't do :banana::banana::banana::banana: but just makes someone cower up in a corner. When it gets to a point where he breaks, he might seriously just leave and vanish. Your units. My units. My money. Your money - ALL GONE!
Man, this Chinese guy just won't stop talking :D . Seriously it made me realize how :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty his life is right now after the conversation. How desperate it is to just keep himself afloat.
Ok I shuddup! ehehhehe
Nice to see some compassion in this thread. Been a while since we've seen that.
It's gotten to a point that if anyone else around here posts some words of encouragement or support to Reg we just get told to mind our own business and stay out of 'their' thread.
I'm glad you guys realise how he's doing, and are willing to give him the time to make good. I think it's the guys who've been here a good long time that realise that he's not going to run off with the money or scam anyone. If he was that kind of guy he would've done it a long time ago.
I think it's people who are newer, that haven't been here so long and don't know what he'd done for the community or what kind of person he is.
There was a time he was known for being one of the most generous and helpful guys around here. I'm pretty sure that anyone who'd ordered parts from Reggie always got a little extra in their order when he was on top of things, myself included. I didn't always know what it was :D but a valve here, or some extra shrinktube there. The sort of thing that made you happy to be dealing with him and want to again.
It's not like he's ever charged that much for making units either, for the most part operating at a 'break even' level on them, his real money coming from his other business and work.
Well now he's not doing so great with all that, and as it's been said it'll take a bit of time for him to come back from it, to make good on everything for people. But he will, if we let him. If we drive him down, he might not come back up. I know that if it were me, or anyone else I know, maybe I wouldn't last so long as he has with the things that have hit him for the last year.
Don't know if Reggie would take the money if we offered it to him (which is why I usually talk to Charles about it :rolleyes: if I ever do) but a fund is something I'd certainly put some cash into.
I wouldn't even see it as charity, because after all he's put into the community and even the extra stuff he used to send when I ordered my parts from him, I think it's more like payback.
Meh, this isn't the thread to arrange something like that.
Hope to see things keep going, units to get shipped out and everyone to finally be happy and maybe see a little more of the old Chilly1 back in action. We DO miss you Reg, a part of the personality, the character, the 'Heart' of Xtremesystems is gone without you here.
Cheers
Gray
You are exactly right. I never had any dealings with him but why would you want to take away a forum. Yes, thats right Chilly1 does own a part of this forum. I might not be a big part of this or even have any money on the line but I know whats its like when you are down and people ask more and more and more stuff of you. It sucks BIG TIME. If anything I would say leave him alone to finish the work and fix his life. Be nice and nice things will happen to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Mole
One thing Reggie has to change is not be a "YES" man. If he can't finish, he should just tell them it isn't done or he is getting money to get the parts for it and it won't be shipped till X number of months/weeks time or something.
I think an answer like that will make some people displeased, but it is good to say NO once in a while then all the time YES in this case.
We used to go to Reggie all he time last time and he used to always accommodate our wishes if he can. But its time he should just tell them when their's will be done. Then at least he does not have to tell them it isn't done and people think that he lied and nothing is done. Reggie has to say no and plan his come back. That is the most important thing.....PLAN when he will finish the units.
Wiping the tears from my eyes...
Get real people!!
While I do agree that he may be a flight risk if too many people pressure him, I also feel obligated to say that my "anger and threats" as you call it resulted in a delivery date of day after tomorrow. Your compassion resulted in nothing as of yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by kcnyc
Good luck and let us know what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by computerpro3
Does the unit work? Is it the Mach you originally sent him? I would really like to know the details.
Funny, I've been in sales for years and my customers could care less about my difficulties -- and I have never expected them to!!
It's evidently a little known secret that if you take someone's money, make a commitment to do something and don't deliver, people get pissed and they have a legal right for recourse.
Computerpro3, dont add any more logs to the fire. You think that your two cents of ragging Reggie really helps? I can assure you it has the complete opposite effect on everyone elses outcome.
Thanks Gray and Kc
NO FLAMING!!
thank you for your compliance..
WOW!!
(Enough Said).
Well I guess Computerpro3 and wkmgt is thinking in their money part of their brain. I'm not saying that is bad, money have different meaning and is prioritized differently from one person to another. I just think that it is more constructive to lets say help someone up and get my unit done sooner than to have someone abandon his life to start another. And not to mention not getting the unit and losing all the money. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
I think it is all the pressure that kept Reggie telling you that you will get your unit this week or something. He for one can't help it coz he always said yes to almost anyone. If we backed off and like kinda give him like 2 months or something to finish your unit again, he might be able to do it. It gives him a little time. But yes he did waste like a year or so of your overclocking time, but I assure you - you will be happy when your unit arrives.
I am so sure that I am plunking down about USD100 for the fund that GrayMole started. Why do I want to give someone money that has not finished my unit for over a year? Coz I would feel better helping someone out than destroying him with words and threats.
As I have said before I will get everything done in its time, I do have obligations to my family that i must keep, I will not give up IF I get into finincial difficaulities it will mean a longer wait right now things are leveling out and I am getting caught up, I have some irons n teh fire that may make this all go away quickly, I could have walked away a year ago when it all blew up I did not and I wont no matter how hot it gets. I do try to come up with a time frame but I have work for a few companies that requires me to be on 24/7 call to keep the job and this does conflict with schedules I set for myself... Try this when setting a date for anything...
I will not bail like so many have in the past when things got tough... and I will not compromise on any of the builds to get thenm done faster...
The issues here are more than it seems I have supply problems like the quality of parts I recieved and paid for, I do not want o ship units with parts that I know will fail in short order and as of right now I have a controllers that is not usable and I have no confidence in replacments I have as I have 100% failure of the 4 I recieved. I have a new design in the works and there are a couple peeps onthe forums working on one also.. I hope to have working samples soon, as I have not gotten a time line I can not give you one.. I am trying to get the ones I have repaired..
Thank you for your help and understanding....
Reggie, I hear you about life throwing you a curve ball and trying to do what you can to recover from the hand you're dealt. I know in my heart you will not make the decision to bail on folks who trusted you to produce units for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by chilly1
If you have the parts to build units that don't require a controller, like FragTek's and my cascade, then why not build the units that you can and get us out of the way while you solve ther issues that will enable those that paid for something with a controller to get a quality unit. Heck, I'd even be happy to know who's up next so I know not to needlessly bug you til I am up for your next unit.
Do you have any confidence that thes units will get done by the year's end?
I'd be willing to take a unit without a controller and call the deal done, if it helps you get mine out of the way.
Reggie and I agreed a few months ago not to put a controller in mine and just rig it up with a few probes and throw in a UEI monitor.
Same here. . .he was going to rig the display to the UEI mm to the front of the case and let it read from a few temp probes.Quote:
Originally Posted by FragTek
Would love to hear from Reggie on this.
I give credit where credit is due on one thing from Reggie for sure. He never just up and disappered on us completely and since I managed to take a long enough step away my perspective on progress made is that although it is slow at least it's there in some form.
I'm working my best to get my situation worked out in the best way that is possible with Reggie, beign that we're two people with real lives. I would advise those of you that look to this thread every single day for progress and have been doing so for many months or whatever, try and change it to look every week instead. I stepped away from teh situation for 3 or 4 months to just let any hot emotions blow over, and coming back I'm very glad that I did because it saved me a lot of stress of thinking about the situation every day.
Bottom line is, he's going to make good or he's not, if you want to say something to him, call him and talk to him directly or e-mail him and give him a fair chance to defend himself and remember that he's just one person just like you.
Love the way you approach the situation! You have to wait anyway....so why not wait with a smile. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Weee
My unit arrived today. I can't test it under load yet but i can confirm it idles at -50C. This is odd because that's 9C worse than last time I had it, but as long as it holds under load I really don't care. Reggie, you certainly appear to have kept your word.
The lower the charge, the less load it can handle, but the lower idle temps will be. The bigger the charge, more load capability, high idle temps..Thats the general idea at leastQuote:
Originally Posted by computerpro3
that would explain why it hit -60C right after it slowly started leaking the first time but couldn't hold worth a damnQuote:
Originally Posted by Lead Head
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Originally Posted by computerpro3
Yes, the lower the pressure the gas evaporates, the lower the idle temps will be, as the gas charge lowers, the vacuum on the suction side will increase, so temps will be lower, but load temps will suck unbelievably
Good to hear another unit has made it homeQuote:
Originally Posted by computerpro3
Good news :)Quote:
Originally Posted by computerpro3
Regards
Andy
For those who are not aware, I have recently been heavily involved with trying to assist in organising matters for Chilly1 as part of the duties as Fund Administrator.
In this regard, I would like to request that all parties waiting for a unit to be completed to PM me with their details, Date of order, payment details if possible, and as much detail as possible about the unit they have ordered.
I know that there are partial lists that have been assembled, I have taken that information and added as much to it as possible. However, if I could build a full timeline of orders, their status, and their order of completion, it would greatly help both myself in administrating the Chilly1 Fund and to assist Reggie in ensuring that builds are completed in a timely fashion.
If you are aware of parties that are not a part of XS forums but are awaiting completion of units, you could request that they email me at gram808 (at) hotmail (dot) com with 'Chilly1 order' in the title.
I am seeking to build a detailed database to assist in this matter. Any information you have would be very helpful.
I would also request that any parties who have ordered units with controllers, that are willing to have their unit completed with a switch and temp probe instead of a control system, to forward that along with the other details.
As it has been noted, there are some very serious issues with control systems at present and this is detrimentally affecting unit production. If you are willing to have this substitution the Fund could be in a position to refund the difference in cost to those who have fully paid, and concessions can be made in this instance to those who have partially paid/put deposits on units and are awaiting their completion before the balance is paid.
Also those who have come to a point where reimbursement is the only option, could you please contact me either by PM or by the listed email address and I will endeavor to assist in dealing with your claim. I will require the same information as requested above, and any additional information you may have regarding refund request dates or that you deem pertinent to your claim.
Your support would be greatly appreciated in this matter.
Kind regards,
Gray
Any more updates for us Reggie? Completed units, shipped units? Pix, details, anything for us to munch on?
Hope to see you posting again soon.
sent an email to you GM, might send anotehr with mroe indepth details as i look into my pms.
Thanks so far to everyone that's PMing and emailing the details of their orders :)
I'd like to ask if it's possible for those who have sent details, to ensure that I recieve their current shipping details if they haven't sent them.
Ideally, the database I'm building will have names(both real and forum name), build details, a timeline, and an address for units to be shipped to.
This will ensure that everything is there for both myself and Reggie to know where he stands, and have everything he needs to get it done and to your door.
Please note that this is not a list for public posting so your personal details will not be published.
Thanks again,
Gray
Thanks for all Gray!
Would be nice to see the list, cause I'm one of the waiting customers...
No problem :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Entsafter
I'm very happy to do it, as it'll make what I'm trying to do much easier and hopefully then it will be 100% clear to Reggie what needs doing.
I very much appreciate that people are sending the info I need!
I may adapt a second list for publishing later on that does not include personal details but I'm not totally sure about that as yet. While it would be nice to have a clear list for customers to know where they are in a timeframe that's not why I'm requesting it. I'll try to do so though, but that will be a little longer as I'm focussing on making sure a fully detailed database is done first, and that's going to be eating a little time before a second one can be done.
Hopefully I'll keep receiving information from everyone involved until I can be 100% sure that's everyone, then when the list is done I'll be working with Reggie to put the information into as easy a format as possible for him to deal with it on a 'checklist' kind of system. Anything to make the organisation easier for him, means faster results for everyone.
I appreciate those that are noting if a controller can be substituted for them as well, that will certainly assist in matters where a controller cannot be sourced in the short term. It also saves my having to approach everyone individually too.
Thanks very much to all, I hope to have the database mostly done by the end of this week, and then additions can be made when needed.
Again, if anyone know's of customers that are unaware of the list I'm building, could they contact them with my details? It would help greatly :toast:
Cheers,
Gray
I wonder when my unit is coming. It seems you have to take legal action before your unit gets shipped. I've been waiting since 12/3/05, it pisses me off when people that have been waiting 4 months are asking for their stuff back already. Let them wait, I've been waiting long enough.
You should take a weekend and fly out to LV and pick up your unit or help get it finished. You're lucky that it's only a couple hour flight. I'd have done it already if it wasn't such a long flight and I could get 3 or 4 days off to do it. I've been waiting since early december 05 as well.
FragTek, that's rediculous. I have to waste my time / money to get MY unit after a year of waiting? It seems I have to do EVERYTHING to get my unit back.
That is quite ridiculous.... we pay for shipping, we pay for labor.... and now we have to do it again? I am also one of the patient quiet ones but this is getting a little out of hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by FragTek
You don't have to do it, if you want your unit now, you can fly out and help. If you don't, you have to wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by eBoy0
Bravo! Someone that understands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lead Head
It really is tempting. . .I can get a flight out for under $200. It's a matter of getting a few days off when Black Friday is around the corner. Oh, well....back to waiting and wondering what my rig is truly capable of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lead Head
GM, I truly do admire what you're doing. Thanks muchly for taking time to make a thorough list so Reggie knows who's up next and exactly what he's doing for that person. I hope my email wasn't too long, but you asked for as much detail as we had. It so happens that i save every message and email.
For those of us who have decided to wait patiently, please feel free to pm around so we can get to know each other. There's safety in the knowledge that we are all in this together. I have gotten to know folks like FragTek....and I'd love to get to know the rest of you who are all part of the same adventure.
Regards,
I agree with all of the things that Philly just said. And Philly and I have talked quite a bit through PM's and have gotten to know each other pretty well and our seperate situations on our units. In fact when I first ordered mine it was going to be a bit more similar to Philly's as I was having my cascade put in the back portion of a U2-UFO (plans have since changed).
I take it you work retail too then Philly (guessing from the black monday remark). I manage The UPS Store in my area and the holidays are brutal, and that's like an understatement. UPS + Xmas = death.
If we don't have our units after Xmas you wanna buy a set of tickets and fly out together for a 4 day weekend or something? I'm down :) Sounds kinda fun actually.
Without a doubt! For $200 I could do anytime in the 2nd or 3rd week in January. We could fly out on a Thursday morning and come home (units safely in the mail) Sunday night. Really, tho, I will be anxious to see where we are on Gray Mole's database. We should be close to if not next up. Man, **salivating** some Chilly1 cascade luvin for my new FX-60 would be just what the doctor ordered if it came in time for the holiday season. Then I could resume the pwnage at the lan parties I host for my gaming Dell mates.Quote:
Originally Posted by FragTek
Yeah retail holiday season sux hard. I work for the new retail division of Dell - The Dell Direct Stores you see in various malls across the country.
Definately, let's plan it up if we don't have our units by then! Day Break just started and have to watch, more later. :)