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Originally Posted by Dynasty
Is that confirmed? does anyone have a rev 1.03 and conroe up and running? i don't wanna buy one and then find out its a no go.
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Originally Posted by Dynasty
Is that confirmed? does anyone have a rev 1.03 and conroe up and running? i don't wanna buy one and then find out its a no go.
Will the LP UT NF590 SLI-T2R/G have EPP (Enhanced Performance Profiles) for memory? Thanks
Also will EPP be a nvidia nforce 590 thing only? Or will 975x and RD600 support it?
Yes all 590 chipsets include it.Quote:
Originally Posted by hookid
Yes it is NVidia only
does the memory have to be SLI ready to use EPP?Quote:
Originally Posted by vapb400
because if you go here:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/nforce5_intel.html
Then under NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI – engineered for enthusiasts, Click learn more.
It has EPP under SLI-ready memory, so maybe with intel it has to have EPP and be SLI-ready, im not sure
Yes, 1.03G works with Conroe just fine. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Anjelous
The DDR400 support makes it a heck of a option for Celeron-478 or any S478 IGP owners (Dell/HP/Gateway/eMachines/etc.). Dual PATA/133 (and quad SATA/150) means it's *absolutely future-proof*. The rather painful issue is that you definitely need a new case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldrick
The 965 will not be a good chipset choice for upgraders because of the lack of PATA support (unlike 975X, 965 is strictly SATA). While my hard drive (primary) is SATA, my two optical drives are not. Having to upgrade the graphics and RAM is bad enough; having to change out the optical drives would simply be adding insult to injury. Even if 965-based motherboards are cheaper than 975-based boards, the increased cost of SATA optical drives wipes that difference out (especially since the only current source of such drives is the not-inexpensive Plextor). The one area where (IMHO) 965X-based boards would make sense is when building completely from scratch (all new components).Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyperr
Im pretty sure they have one IDE channel. You can always add more with a pci card (though i know they dont give you many of those slots anyway).
Well both of you are right ;) The ICH8 southbridge, the one that come's with 965 series, doesn't support IDE anymore. However most of the board makers will but some marvell chip or something like that on the board providing some IDE channels ;)
On Asus P5B Deluxe there is a JMicron® JMB363 PATA and SATA controller ;)
I was browsing Alternate's website and I saw interesting thing, three Asus P5WD2-E Premium boards :confused: Is one of them 1.03G revision or what are they?
Prolly the P5WDH for me. NF5 is really just a refresh of the NF4 and thus (and also backed up by early tests of NF5 board on XS) is likely to have many of the same issues the NF4 had. Bad mojo imo.
Be nice if NV finally made SLI available but I guess that'll be their choice... If they don't I don't really need SLI that much over just refreshing the top of the line card every 8 months or so.
August for the 590 boards is also too late.
BIG NOTE: EPP for memory is an open standard (check with Corsair for more info) and while it is something they worked closely with Nvidia to develop, it's something any mobo bios could read and make use of. So while none of the current chipsets besides the NF5 can do it, that may change. I wonder if they could do it via a bios change. That would be a nice perk indeed!
The two Asus 975 boards also differ in that the P5WDH gets rid of the parallel port. Not sure about the rest of you but I haven't needed a parallel port in 5 years or more. So good riddens to it. I'm not sure the layout of the SATA ports and a second gpu card are going to work so well, but I'll figure something out there.
And as far as comparing the TDP of chipsets, please don't tell me you think that a 5w differerence is even worth talking about. NF shouldn't even get a minor negative remark in that regard. The difference is more of a number on a page rather than anything worth worrying about. Choosing a Raptor over a 7200 rpm drive is a similar difference and no one complains. Dwell on performance and stability or serious power savings, not these tiny things.
:)
Where have we seen early tests of the NF5?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anemone
if you look at the layout, they changed it, and put dual spacing between the pci-e slots on the later version, which should make for spotting it easierQuote:
Originally Posted by Nazu
new version
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=236
old version
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowIm...ard+%2D+Retail
Don't forget the 8 phase power regulators on the new P5WD2-E Premium r1.03G ;)
yeah that too
On which board did you test this? I'm having a similar problem: I don't want to buy an Asus P5WDG2-WS to find out it isn't working. You're absolutely sure the Asus P5WDG2-WS rev1.03g supports Conroe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynasty
Does anyone has an idea on the Asus P5WDG2-WS Pro release date by the way?
yes but it has to be the pro version I believe, the 1.03g was for the p5wd2e premiumQuote:
Originally Posted by Milenco
heres a link to more proof
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=115
and no the p5wdg2-ws won't work, only pro will
vapb400 - now if I could recall that would be great but it was a link on a thread here in XS that took us to someone who didn't get the FSB past 223. I'll have to check with a search to find it again, sorry. Can't do that right this second but I'll remember to.
Again apologies.
That's one reference but not the one I was looking for.Quote:
Manoj:
on the overclocker's Party of DFI with Coolaler they overclocked a XE6800 with an nForce. they only achieved a FSB of 27x mhz... maybe they hadn't enough time to test the FSB though. but I claim that nForce 5 IE will suck as well as nForce 4 IE did...
I thought that is what you were referring too. We'll have to see. FCG also said "NV590 overclocks like a mofo". Or something along those lines :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Anemone
It'll be interesting indeed.
Yeah I read that again. I have to say FCG is so often right on the money, that who am I to think otherwise on this one. So let's see. I kind of hope he is right because if NF5 turns out to be a more class act I would really prefer their board feature wise. Kentsfield compatibility would also be something I'd be looking to see if the NF5 could do as well.
So I won't count the NF5 out I guess is the net result. However not sure I'm waiting till Aug or Sep for their board either, but that we'll have to see on too.
:)
look this.... http://www.asrock.com/product/ConRoeXFire-eSATA2.htm :banana: :banana:
just ordered:
775Dual-VSTA
for 65$ shipped, should be here within a week or so, right now i only have a pentium D to throw it in, but i was getting tired of waiting, once here, ill write a mini review of the FSB's that it achieves, and some general performance of it.
Which PD... please not 805!!!
I was going to get it too... but building temp amd i thnk...
nah, i had a pent. D 820 i got in trade, i just lapped it today, and i got my LGA 775 bracket in the other day for my xp 120, so it should be a decent setup until conroes are out and in stock.
http://www.asrock.com/product/775i945GZ.htm
another one from asrock.
Any news on the release date of the LP UT NF590 SLI-T2R/G?
Tomorrow I have my last test ;) So then I have to time to give the first post an update ;)
GL Sky
Interesting board for the nVidia nForce 590. The DPM will help with O/Cing but then again, I'll be interested in the ATI RD600 and see how that turns out...
DFI Infinity 975X (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard
Support all Intel Socket 775 CPU's including latest Conroe Processors
- Intel 975X + ICH7R Chipsets
- 1066FSB/800FSB Support with great overclocking ability
- 6-Phase Digital Power Management
- 8GB Maximum memory supporting latest DDR2 speeds
- 2 x 16x PCI-Express for Crossfire Support (Operates at x8 in Crossfire Mode)
- 8 Channel Onboard Audio
Source DFI Infinity 975x on sale
Skyline I got this link to you update the DFI Infinity 975x official website link.
Source
I looked through that list, but Conroe is not my strong point. Which one of those motherboards has the same features as the Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe? In other words which conroe mobo has 2x PCI-ex16 slots, 1000mhz FSB, is SATA 3Gb/s compatible, and has atleast 2x 120mm fans?
Does anyone now something about a release date of the Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6?
I'm verry interested to see what fsb the board can handle. since most of the conroe OC are hold back by the board. Max FSB in bios is 600
http://resources.vr-zone.com/yantron...5/bios/fsb.JPG
"FSB can be set from 100MHz to 600MHz."
I realy want a review what has tested this and see what this board is realy capable of. AND! a release date would be nice
:toast:
Thx Metroid, just added it ;)
And Brutus every 975X board that has support for Conroe meets your requirements ;) Nut you cannot compare an AMD board with an intel board... I mean, the 1000MHz FSB, Conroe is running 1066MHz standard.
Hmm I guess today is the day that the P965 are officially. Lot's of boardmakers have there P965 boards online...
Anybody know if this will do any good overclocking an 805, since I'm not getting a Conroe yet? And also, if ASRock have a generally good reputation? Cheers :)
well ive been following these boards ,and all in all badaxe seems to be the most highest fsb stable board ,could be wrong though .dfi has nice biose ,but no one has really come over 420 fsb stable? so badaxe is still a winner in my eyes .ive seen benches of 3dmark at 4.4 e6700 and phase .any other boards thats done better?
I didn't see someone trying to get higher then ~450 fsb on a msi X975 or Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6 witch has 600 mhz fsb bios option. So in my eyes, the is no winner when there is no (or verry little) competition from other boards
The 805D is 133fsb... It should OC on almost any board that has some kind of OC options. 4Ghz = 200FSB. I believe in Europe the twins is available. In America a different ASRock is available.
SKYLINE!
775Dual-VSTA is the model Number. IT IS AVAILABLE IN THE STATES.
http://www.asrock.com/product/775Dual-VSTA.htm
I was going to get it but I need an MATX :(
I posted on page 13 but I don't know if u saw.
Supports DDR2 533 and DDR2 667 DIMMs
-for the DFI 975x board
No DDR2 800? Or someone please explain this to me
DDR2 800 is no problem at all ;) this is just official :D it works fineQuote:
Originally Posted by hookid
All Conroe compatible boards have atleast 1000mhz FSB? Then why is it that a lot of the mobos listed in this thread say they have a max of around 600mhz FSB?
not everyone has FSB1066 (Quadpumped). but at least for E6xxx they need such an FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus013
Intel has a so called Quadpumped Bus. that means, when you have 200mhz FSB it is 800mhz Quadpumped ;)
I too am looking for a board for Conroe. ATM I am leaning toward the P5WDH deluxe.:D
Because you have to mutliply that 600 with 4 because the FSB is quadpumped ;) A 1066MHz FSB is in fact 4x266MHz;) And it's that 266MHz that you can rease to 600MHz (in BIOS) I doubt the board will even post at that speed...
Me 2, but I hope 500-550 is possible (alway's hope for the best)
waus-mod's DFI will some soon, his conroe to. So let's hope for a good fsb!
Oh, so the Conroe mobos are quad pumped, that makes sense.
this has been so since ages ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus013
I didnt know, most mobos arne't quade pumped.
Actualy most *Intel* boards are :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus013
Quad pumped has been around since near the advent if not AT the advent of netburst.
On another note the P5WDH appears to only have 3 sata coming off the ICH7R (dunno where the 4th link goes maybe the external) and a second 3 coming off the secondary chip. That's not so much fun since the ICH7 performs far better - and I have 4 drives it just figures. Oh well probably throw one of the drives on the secondary and live with it, but I had expected there to be 4+4 or 4+3 secondary. sigh
Third note, there is a bios out for the P5WDH that goes to 500mhz fsb. It's been tested and hit 435 445 something like that.
:)
Ok, after looking at a large part of those mobos, it seems like they are all pretty expensive. Are there any Conroe mobos that are around $120 and support SLI?
Yes that is why I may opt for the P5B Dlx that uses the 965P/ICH8R chipsetQuote:
Originally Posted by Anemone
Not going 965 because of the dual 8x on the 975 - for future use :p
I have one 300gb HD drive and need 1 sata.who needs that much sata conection?4 Hd drives?Huhh,childish.
did you ever hear of a raid array?
Childish? How is that childish? Maybe someone else needs more storage then you :rolleyes: Ever hear of video editing, or extensive music/video collections :rolleyes: Don't be an assQuote:
Originally Posted by DARK SIDE
Im working with skystar2 card.I know what is storage space and multimedia working...i dont need more space than 300gb.RAID?2 hd drives on two conection slots on mobo is enough.2x300gb=600gb in raid!!Ok.for me(two sata).
Other thing is if someone have to many small hd drives with small storage space...but 40gb,80gb...that's history....
Because nobody uses those silly raptors.
I think most of us DO use silly Raptors
i think he was being sarcasticQuote:
Originally Posted by graham_h
i just got my 150GB 16MB Cache "silly" Raptor :) muhaha
i wish i had a silly raptor
Dude, I know someone who does video editing, and he has six 500GB harddrives. Yes, 3TB. some people need more than others.
Also, once again, what Conroe mobos are priced in at about $130?
I'd guess the P5B and gigabyte's GA-P965-DS4 will be somewhere around that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus013
i agree, i need a conroe board that has 4 sata off the ich7r.
2x36 raid o for vista
2x36 raid 0 for xp
and then i would like at least 2 more off secondary chip, preferrbly 4 more, total 8, but hey, thats just me.
1 SATA optical drive
3 SATA raptors
1 SATA large hardrive for storage and ghost images
That's 5 even before I buy any more. So yes 4 is bare minimum, assuming I'd be willing to put one of the raptors to work elsewhere, which I wouldn't prefer, or use the secondary SATA chip, which we know won't perform as well as the ICHx.
I hope you were being sarcastic. If so, apologies.
Has anybody heard if Gigabyte is updating their GA-G1975X?
I doubt it because they have been flaunting their 965x boards, I feel like they'd be flaunting this as well.
And I remember reading that one big manufacturer wouldn't be updating their 975, so I am assuming that is Gigabyte.
I said it would happen:
http://www.asrock.com/product/ConRoe865PE.htm
NEEDS MOAR MATX boards, Bat Man!
975x for me (if one comes with ICH8 that'd be intriguing from the right vendor) and prolly either an Asus or DFI offering. A little birdie says a very desireable psu is coming in a month, so that'll fix that :)
Dunno if I'll buy new ram or use current, DDR2 533 3 2 2 8 timings. HS = dunno. Rest is gradually settling.
Going to be sad if Conroe availability is so bad I'm stuck till August or Sep waiting :(
LOL a Conroe compatible board equipped with AGP and DDR1, good for people moving from AMD rigs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave DEF
Yeah I looked at it and had a bit of nostalgia. AGP... those were the days :)
I'm wondering how many of the Conroe boards will support Kentsfield quad core when they come out. I've already heard the Intel D975XBX board will, also Coolaler had one running on an MSI? (can't find the thread at the moment). What about the others? Someone should start a sticky on Kentsfield support if it hasn't been done yet.
It "seems" like you can expect a fair number of 975 boards to manage it. 965 the jury is still out (which this close to release would lend a lot of bets on "no")
I think the Gigabyte 965 board with its 12 phase power design looks a good bet for quad core support :D
Don't think this is possible. 975 comes with ICH7. Will keep a look out, tho'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anemone
you're missing
ConRoe865PE
http://www.asrock.com/product/ConRoe865PE.htm
ConRoeXFire-eSATA2 Revision 2.0
http://www.asrock.com.tw/product/Con...TA2%20R2.0.htm
775Dual-VSTA
http://www.asrock.com/product/775Dual-VSTA.htm
Asus P5BPL (946PL)
http://home.arcor.de/fischoderaal/mobo/Asus/P5BPL.jpg
Asus P5B-MX (946GZ)
http://home.arcor.de/fischoderaal/mobo/Asus/P5B-MX.jpg
Biostar 946PL
http://home.arcor.de/fischoderaal/mo...46PL%20775.jpg
DFI Infinity 946PL/G
ECS/Elitegroup 946GZT-M
http://home.arcor.de/fischoderaal/mobo/ECS/946GZT-M.jpg
ECS/Elitegroup 946PLT-A
http://home.arcor.de/fischoderaal/mobo/ECS/946PLT-A.jpg
Foxconn 946PL7MA-8KRS2H
http://home.arcor.de/fischoderaal/mo...7MA-8KRS2H.jpg
Abit AT656FX-SD8
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/...spx?i=2775&p=3
Asus P5VD2-(MX/VM DH)
http://www.asus.com/products3.aspx?l...e=VIA%20P4M890
think that's all ;)
Just a wonder. Newegg has recently sold out of the ASUS P5WD2-E Premium Motherboards. When they are back in stock, does that mean they will probably be the latest revision that supports conroe?
when they are shipped now via Asus it might be. but if they refill before the new Revision is supplied -> :(Quote:
Originally Posted by EneergE
Asus P5W DH Deluxe is now in stock (21 pieces) @ www.selection.be
link -> http://www.shop.selection.be/c2s_pro...2&ref=88814509
i||uSi0n^
Im not diggin the location of the retailer (non-US). And... Holy :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: its nearly $240!Quote:
Originally Posted by i||uSi0n^
lol welcome to europe, everything here is expensive :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BWR
i||uSi0n^
actually €230 is more like 287USD ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BWR
Try closer to $300 when you factor in the rates the guy on the street will get.
Thats with TVA (Unknown acronym to me) included.Quote:
Originally Posted by zert
TVA is a value added tax, essentially a kind of sales tax.
wow thats expensive
How does DFI's naming scheme work? I see Infinity, Lanparty, and Lanparty UT on their site? Is it like:
Infinity = Basic
Lanparty = Deluxe
Lanparty UT = Premium?
Aslo, what will ATI's SB650 have over SB600 other than 2 more SATAs?
Infinity 975X/G could be changed to AVAILABLE
This could be of interest to ppl looking at this thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...04#post1535604
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I found this on the DFI website about there UT line of boardsQuote:
Originally Posted by jbizzler
DFI LANPARTY UT Series
The cutting-edge DFI high-end series “LANPartyUT” is dedicated to the LAN party & case mod culture, which has been a phenomenon among global PC users. Every model of LANPARTY series has sported the most groundbreaking concepts and technologies and thus has made its performance and design just irresistible.
To make LAN gamers fashion leaders and bring more fun for them, DFI designs the UV sensitive accessories and the stylish black PCB and creates LANPARTY series. With UV Sensitive Illuminated System, LANPartyUT glows under the UV cold cathode light, and thus put LANPARTY owners in the spotlight by catching everyone’s eye during LAN parties.
You are partially correctQuote:
Originally Posted by jbizzler
General = Basic (usually SIS chipsets and little tweaking)
Infinity = Most of the Lanparty tweaks and performance but less accessories and less nice components
Lanparty = top of the line
Lanparty UT = top of the line with ultra violet reactive parts ;)
So we can expect both DFI's NF590 SLI-T2R/G and RD600-T2R/G to, basically, glow? I know there's no ASUS RD600 on the list, but should we expect one? Maybe a P5R32-MVP? I love the layout of the A8R32.
On the first post you say:
But the link in the P5WDG2-WS Pro goes to Asus and shows a P5WDG2-WS (non PRO). P5WDG2-WS is actually in stock, does it have conroe support ? Or only the "PRO" version will support them ? (any link to "PRO" version ? )Quote:
Asus
* P5W DH Deluxe - ATX - Available in June
* P5WDG2-WS Pro - ATX - Not available
* P5WD2-E Premium rev 1.3 (not 100% sure) - ATX - Available but not rev 1.03G
Maybe a new bios for P5WDG2-WS will make them Conroe ready ?
yeah im kinda waiting for a "P5R32-MVP Deluxe" too :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by jbizzler
only "Pro" supports Conroe. he linked the non Pro Version because they equal in equipment. the biggest difference is Conroe support for the "Pro" and its copper heatsinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by krampak
LP = top of the line @ 775Quote:
Originally Posted by vapb400
UT = top of the line @ 939
Then a P5WDG2-WS (non PRO) Rev 1.03 wouldn't support them ?Quote:
only "Pro" supports Conroe. he linked the non Pro Version because they equal in equipment. the biggest difference is Conroe support for the "Pro" and its copper heatsinks.