Many sites will factor that in...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilhooley
Printable View
Many sites will factor that in...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilhooley
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teemax
its a bit of both ... what they want to sell it for to make the process lucrative + what people will pay ... they usually go with an average between both ......
And some will measure on the MB for even better values. But I think that 9 of 10 sites doesn't..Quote:
Originally Posted by xVeinx
you gotta be an electrical engineer to figure this stuff out :)
Yeah, I 100% wigged out and forgot about that.... :).Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilhooley
From Fellix,
Bench setting is unclear...Quote:
OK, some first hand info, but my source is still under NDA, so not much in-depth details.
GTX470 is ~10% faster than stock HD5870, benched in Crysis.
The noise level under load is similar to GTX285 -- noticeable but not irritating.
that doesnt explain why they renamed their retail products though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Oj101
and it doesnt explain why they named the last G92 based OEM part GTS150 while the retail cards were called GTS250... same specs, same clocks, same chip... but sure, it was those oh so evil oems that push nvidia to rename their cards to make them sound more powerful :D
thx :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by WeiT.235
no big difference though, 10% more or less... i doubt itll make a difference.
whether you play on a system with a 5870 or gtx470 or gtx480... it should be pretty much the same... unless you game at ultra high res, then the 480 might actually make a difference compared to the 470 and 5870... cant wait for reviews to check that :)
oh and about the 10% more perf for double the watts...
im not saying i believe it, i have no idea... but i believe he meant actual wattage of 5870s is around 130W and actual wattage of 480s is 250W, so then its ALMOST double the wattage... IF 480s are really that power hungry is another question...
since their tdp was rumored to be close to 300W first, that might have been an electrical worst case scenario which was very unrealistic, so nvidia lowered it to a more realistic max tdp value... but i dont think the 480 comes close to 250W under gaming load... id say 200W max when playing games, and a 5870 is probably around 140W max when playing games.
saaya: I think you missed that the guy reported %10 better perf. in Crysis of 470, not 480...
However, this still might be the 2560 + 4xAA case which says little...
must be the most power hungry config. ever...
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9...r0n1097648.jpg
agree, I guess the 5870 1g must be included for the bench, instead of 2gb version. In high setting like 2506x1600 in crysis, 1g version is easy to use out of the buffer.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
we might see 90 pages before the 6th of april LOLL
yeah but at least reviewers have the cards now, any info leaking should be close to correct :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n
Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
indeed..... we should prepare the anti depression med for the nvidia fanboys .....
It's like only 3 days left (it's past midnight here) and there's no comprehensive leaked stuff, yea the most important specs are revealed but nothing besides this, no trustworthy benchmarks etc. I must say this is very impressively kept secret. GT200 was kept quite secret until like a week beforehand, things started leaking out, benchmarks etc but even 3 days before fermi stuff is meant to be released no signs of real benchmarks etc. Congrats nvidia to this if nothing else. :clap: :D
that's probably because no one is excited about the performance :(Quote:
Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD
It is GF100 A3,leaked by a chinese employee of Giada.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordEC911
http://news.mydrivers.com/Img/20100316/11481863.jpg
http://news.mydrivers.com/Img/20100316/11484455.jpg
Your spouse/chiropractor laughed at you when you spent $400 on it.. now who's laughing!
1500W. Let that sink in.
mobo = 6pin = 75W, 8pin = 150W.
GTX480 = mobo + 6pin + 8pin = 300W max
GTX460 = mobo + 6pin + 6pin = 225W max
For 3x SLI need: 6 PCIE connectors, and 675-900W for video cards alone.
There are about a dozen 1100-1200W PSU on the market - which suddenly dont look so excessive. But most only have enough 6/8 pin PCIE connectors for 2 x GTX480 or 3x GTX470.
Newegg has three PSU with 8 PCIE connectors, and one amazing PSU has 4x 6pin, 4x 8pin ;). Sadly Antec only has 1200W - hardly enough for OC CPU AND Triple or Quad SLI.
PS: If they add even metal bars/rods along top of heatsink, it will leave the same marks as grill on your hamburgers :)
Hehe, you missed that I was replying to the guy I quoted where he said OEMs are getting irritated with the renames. I simply pointed out that no they're not, they REQUESTED some of the renames to differenciate between retail and OEM channels.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
no, i didnt miss that...Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
but whats the difference between a 5870, 5850, gtx470 and gtx480?
unless you play at super high res you wouldnt be able to tell them apart by playing games on those rigs... same res, same aa, roughly same fps and min fps...
so one card is 5% faster here, another 10% there... that doesnt really make a difference, does it? i hope reviews will have oced vs oced comparisons as well, that would be interesting... especially for the 470...
FYI
headsup for all the fermi lovers out there :DQuote:
NVIDIA will be officially launching the GF100 graphics cards at PAX East 2010. We’d like to take this opportunity to get together with some of our biggest fans. Here’s your chance to meet some of your fellow Club SLI members as well as some of the folks from NVIDIA.
http://surveys.nvidia.com/index.jsp?...ced6122cfa2c4a
Nice if true, 10% faster on the 470 over a 5870 :). Will be interesting to see overclocked results especially :), I run 2560x1600 and like 2-4x AA so it is important to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeiT.235
If it is true at anything less than 1920x1200 8xAA very high settings, I'll be impressed. Otherwise :rolleyes: Again we've already seen the leaks with the 470 pulling ahead at 25600x1600 4-8xAA but clearly this is a biased scenario as half the time the game wasnt playble (or just barely) on either card despite the extra video memory ( in other words 10%+ crap still is crap :up: ) I don't have many doubts that the 470 will do better at 25600x1600 on average however I still think it won't be enough as this resolution is really multi gpu territory (unless one stays clear of current titles anyways ). I don't see the point pairing a ultra highend display with a non ultra highend gpu setup ( not to say 5870/470s aren't highend, they just aren't ultra high end solutions )Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
:stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
Just ask my wife what a inch or two of e-peen can do. Its all about girth.. sorry, I mean bandwith.
Honestly, its all about the same with these new cards. Whatever works for your res is the best choice. My 5850 maxes out almost everything but crysis at 1080p. I cant really ask for much more for just gaming. I think it was one of the best purchases I have ever made. I would wait till a fermi refresh honestly, this first batch looks horrid. I predict a fermi refresh asap, fermi just isnt profitable in its current state.
I have a hard time spending more than 250$ on a piece of hardware I know is going to be outdated and worthless in 6 months. I am way happier spending less and upgrading more often.:up:
Pc gaming is dying fast, the consoles and ports rule the market. ACCEPT IT
what has nVidia done for you in 2 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElSel10
5 price brackets. 2 years. 5 products. 1 chip = whole lotta slackersCode:$200 $250 $300 $350 $500
Jun-08 GTX 260 GTX 280
Jul-08 GTX 260 GTX 280
Aug-08 GTX 260 GTX 280
Sep-08 GTX 260 GTX 280
Oct-08 GTX 260 GTX 280
Nov-08 GTX 260 GTX 280
Dec-08 GTX 260 GTX 280
Jan-09 GTX 260 GTX285 eol
Feb-09 GTX 260 GTX285 GTX 295
Mar-09 GTX 260 GTX285 GTX 295
Apr-09 GTX 260 GTX275 GTX285 GTX 295
May-09 GTX 260 GTX275 GTX285 GTX 295
Jun-09 GTX 260 GTX275 GTX285 GTX 295
Jul-09 GTX 260 GTX275 GTX285 GTX 295
Aug-09 GTX 260 GTX275 GTX285 GTX 295
Sep-09 GTX 260 GTX275 eol eol?
Oct-09 GTX 260 GTX275 eol eol?
Nov-09 GTX 260 eol eol
Dec-09 GTX 260 eol eol
Jan-10 GTX 260 eol eol
Feb-10 GTX 260 eol eol
Mar-10 eol? eol
Apr-10 nothin nothin nothin GTX470 GTX 480
May-10 nothin nothin nothin GTX470 GTX 480
CONTRAST to AMD. Unless I'm mistaken, you can still get rock bottom priced $100 4850's and $150 4870. In contrast, hard finding anything beyond GTX260 from nVidia for MANY MONTHS, and certainly nowhere remotely near $100.
Notice full lineup. No gaps. Notice how far prices fall yet availability remains.Code:$200 $250 $300 $350 $500
Jun-08 4850 4870
Jul-08 4850 4870 4870x2
Aug-08 4850 4870 4870x2
Sep-08 4850 4870 4870x2
Oct-08 4850 4870 4870x2
Nov-08 4850 4870 4870x2
Dec-08 4850 4870 4870x2
Jan-09 4850 4870 4870x2
Feb-09 4850 4870 4870x2
Mar-09 4850 4870 4870x2
Apr-09 4870 4890
May-09 4870 4890
Jun-09 4870 4890
Jul-09 4890 yeah, we're practically giving away those 4890s
Aug-09 4890 yeah, we're practically giving away those 4890s
Sep-09 4890 5850 5870
Oct-09 5770 5850 5870 5870x2
Nov-09 5770 5850 5870 5870x2
Dec-09 5770 5850 5870 5870x2
Jan-10 5770 5850 5870 5870x2
Feb-10 5770 5830 5850 5870 5870x2
Mar-10 5770 5830 5850 5870 5870x2
EDIT: These are very rough approximations based on MSRP.
Notice not counting 2 different GTX260 types for nVidia
For AMD, not counting, HD4770, HD4830, HD4870 1GB, HD4850x2 or 5870 Eyeinfinity edition.
Just like 4870/4890, 1 year from now, you will be able to buy a 5850 or 5870 for less than $200... Fermi - only in a liquidation sale
since when did all of the 200 series reach eol?