So can't one of the Xtreme guru's get a hold of a beta copy of this? I'm dieing here! :(
So can't one of the Xtreme guru's get a hold of a beta copy of this? I'm dieing here! :(
You've certainly had a run of bad luck. Of the boards I've tested, which include 2 A8Vs, 1 AV8, and the giga board. I would have to say that the giga board is easily the most stable, followed by the Asus and the Abit would be a distant 3rd
aparently im one of the lucky ones with stable s939. been running 233x10 since i got my 3700EB other than when i fubared my bios somehow. back on the 1005.020's and all good again.
i dunno what stormPC's beef with s939 is. mine seems to be putting power down just fine. nearly 28k with below x800xtpe stock clocks and 250x10 and zero tweaks. if i could get 260x10 1:1 out of my memory i would expect to get pretty damn close to 30k all factory cooled on air, i expect 29k at 250x10 with a slight overclock, 535/567 or so, on my modded pro. chip will do 2.6ghz with a cool 60F ambient temp, i just cant get there with any kind of decent ram speed.
Well to show how inconsistant this whole thing is, I have the exact opposite order where the unlikely Abit was the most stable except for missing the multis and flakey temps sensors, then the asus and lastly the giga. And I don't think it has much to do with luck, just but bad workmanship. Hell, maybe it's the AMD 939 cpu's that are the common problem here.Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
You've certainly had a run of bad luck. Of the boards I've tested, which include 2 A8Vs, 1 AV8, and the giga board. I would have to say that the giga board is easily the most stable, followed by the Asus and the Abit would be a distant 3rd
I wonder what the low ram voltage thing is really about. I'll reboot and try low ram voltage and see what happens.
Yup, there is something defiinetly wrong with the way this board is handling ddr voltage on it's own. I have a OCZ booster device on the way and I'll try that method as soon as it arrives on the 3700EB's.
Consider me another "lucky" 939 user. I've only tried the Asus and Abit. I love the Asus. The Abit stinks.
Everything is stable and smooth. I'm only an X800 XT away from 34K+. No volt mods or special tweaks either. All OS service running with a system tray full of S*it. Just the Mach II and whatever the factory gave me for a CPU, mobo, ram, and VC.
Oh well, its nice to be "lucky".
yea, im just going to be watercooled on my cpu, hopefully i'll be able to get 2.8ghz out of her. 250x11 should be easy. and i'll have a swifty+tec on my x800pro modded to xt and ramsinks. hopefully i'll be able to push into that 32~33k range. With anyluck the ocz booster will get me into 260~275 1:1 range. depends on if a xlr 120 rad and a dtek WW block will have enough ass to run 260x11.
:thumbsup:
BTW, Where'd you find the booster for sale?
Just my personal experience using water. I don't know if you'll be able to run 2.8 stable. I can get screenshots up to around 2.79 but I can't bench at that speed. There are a few people who have trouble running above 2.8 with phase change. Water will be a definite benefit to your video card.Quote:
Originally posted by Mongoose420
yea, im just going to be watercooled on my cpu, hopefully i'll be able to get 2.8ghz out of her. 250x11 should be easy. and i'll have a swifty+tec on my x800pro modded to xt and ramsinks. hopefully i'll be able to push into that 32~33k range. With anyluck the ocz booster will get me into 260~275 1:1 range. depends on if a xlr 120 rad and a dtek WW block will have enough ass to run 260x11.
If you can reach 2.8, that's great. But take a look at the top-20 3DMark01 scores. Just about every one with 32K or higher has phase change or cascade cooling.
I Would Definitely Like to Know Also, Since Emailing OCZ has gotten me no responce about where to buy it!:(Quote:
Originally posted by mdzcpa
BTW, Where'd you find the booster for sale?
yea 2.8 is going to be a challenge, but i can run 2.6 on the retail cooler so anything is possable. 2.8 or more is great, i only expect 2.75 or there abouts. 31k is my goal but i think 32k is doable with a wc cpu and a wc+pelt on the gpu. Ive still got to break 30k first tho i'll have to get 600/600 type clocks at least to to get there tho i imagine. that will require a vmod on my memory i think but it depends on how much going to that level of cooling on the gpu will effect the memory. ive only done regular WC before, this will be my first pelt, and the first time ive watercooled my vga card. still gathering information on it but if i want to get up with the 2nd tier of guys i'll have to.Quote:
Originally posted by sierra_bound
Just my personal experience using water. I don't know if you'll be able to run 2.8 stable. I can get screenshots up to around 2.79 but I can't bench at that speed. There are a few people who have trouble running above 2.8 with phase change. Water will be a definite benefit to your video card.
If you can reach 2.8, that's great. But take a look at the top-20 3DMark01 scores. Just about every one with 32K or higher has phase change or cascade cooling.
with a ocz booster 275x10 1:1 3-2-2-8 would rake in some nice scores:D the board doesnt like more than 3.1vdimm aparently with a hardmod so lets just plan on 3.1v being usable. with 250 at 2.8 270 or so seems possable on 3.1v if they respond to voltage like there supposed to.
Reading this thread, some people may get impression that A8V is a bad board. But my experience using this board is so much better than using Gigabyte nF3 board. Giga is very unstable for me - keep crashing sudddenly even at stock speed. I have to concur with xgman on this one
so what bios and what ddr voltage/htt are you now set at?Quote:
Originally posted by mdzcpa
Consider me another "lucky" 939 user. I've only tried the Asus and Abit. I love the Asus. The Abit stinks.
Everything is stable and smooth. I'm only an X800 XT away from 34K+. No volt mods or special tweaks either. All OS service running with a system tray full of S*it. Just the Mach II and whatever the factory gave me for a CPU, mobo, ram, and VC.
Oh well, its nice to be "lucky".
It's not yet. Just a sample. The factory wired one of the molex plugs on the adapter backward and they have to fix that before they ship. I'll probably receive it mid week and I am concerned that we may have to remove or change one of their heatsinks to fit, and that is if we use the black slots which the manual says not to for dual ch, but I think dual should still work anyway. I don't think there is enough room on the business side of the booster to fit next to the ram if the ram is in the blue slots.Quote:
Originally posted by mdzcpa
BTW, Where'd you find the booster for sale?
Finally some corroboration. :DQuote:
Originally posted by H2OGun
Reading this thread, some people may get impression that A8V is a bad board. But my experience using this board is so much better than using Gigabyte nF3 board. Giga is very unstable for me - keep crashing sudddenly even at stock speed. I have to concur with xgman on this one
I have found that my main problem with the A8V has been solved by leaving the ddr voltage in bios set to auto. Anything else will freeze up. Very odd, and this is with 3700EB or Corsair XL.
Well, I'm still pretty new with this A8V/FX-53, and I want to get as far as I can with stock air/no mods, and a stock 9800XT before I consider going to Vdimm,Vcore mods/6800 Ultra/ and eventually my Cascade Setup, But here's what I have so far...............
Any Good, Do Ya' Think?
http://hallowen.freehosting.net/capture_016b.jpg
Finally things are getting back to normal.
I'm using 1005.21.Quote:
Originally posted by xgman
so what bios and what ddr voltage/htt are you now set at?
DDR is set to 2.8v. I haven't had any problems that need me to set it to auto. What is the issue for you? A no boot? Random freezing?
HT is set to x4 (which is forced with the locks on anyway).
HTT is set to 217mhz. Mem is 1:1 at 2.0-2-2-5
Running 13.5 x 217 for 2932 at the moment.
Not having the issue with my XL. What are those symptoms again? Random freezes, or quick freezes after boot up? Under load only?Quote:
Originally posted by xgman
I have found that my main problem with the A8V has been solved by leaving the ddr voltage in bios set to auto. Anything else will freeze up. Very odd, and this is with 3700EB or Corsair XL.
No apology necessary for me, as I never take anything personally, not even from people (like Eric) that I know, but especially NOT from someone I don't (you).Quote:
Originally posted by mdzcpa
I shouldn't let Storm (who is obviously afraid that his system is obsolete) get to me.
My apologies to everyone, even Storm.
Which one of my systems is obsolete? I don't know where you get the idea that I have only one system, but it was not from me. I guess it's normal for certain persons (usually small ones) to assume that what they believe and truth are one and the same. Anybody who has read any of my posts is aware of the fact that I do not limit myself to a single system or even a single platform. I'd appreciate it if you would actually read my posts (perhaps with the assumption that maybe I'm not out to get you just because you bought S939) before you let my posts "get to you".
Charlie and I were able to get only one 3D bench out of the FX-53, and it was with stock clocks (2400MHz), so one of the 3700+ benches we ran (also 2400MHz) was with identical settings and hardware. The following was the result:
FX-53 S939 w/X800XT, all stock clocks, 2k1: 26573
3700+ S754 w/X800XT, all stock clocks, 2k1: 27425
Compair these scores with Mongoose's stock 3500+ S939 at 2200MHz, 2k1: 25161
hallowen's 9800XT and S939 running 100MHz higher CPU than my gaming rig (S940 FX-51 and 9800XT, aircooled w/no mods or tweaks) is still 1400+ points off my 2k1 score. Is this good?
Hardly impressive numbers for the S939s. Either something is wrong with the A8V or the S939 is no faster than any other A64. NOBODY has even halfway decent numbers with a S939 based system. That's wierd to me.
I will start a new thread after I have tested the S939 against the S754 with identical setups except for MBD and CPU to report the results, and full compares with card clocks will be included. Should be interesting.:D
You guys can deny all you want, but it's not looking good for S939!:rolleyes:
Originally posted by StormPC
I'd appreciate it if you would actually read my posts
Request denied.;)
I don't have time to read nonsense.
I will start a new thread after I have tested the S939 against the S754 with identical setups except for MBD and CPU to report the results, and full compares with card clocks will be included. Should be interesting
Ahhhh...that's right. You are indeed the world's number one "air cooled" expert. After testing " the S939 against the S754 with identical setups except for MBD and CPU to report the results" I am sure you'll do much better than the other dozens of credible sites that have already proven that the 939 is the fastest platform to date.
I feel so much better with your extreme air cooled "expertise" on the case.:toast:
Now, now............
You can't even compare that 1 benchie, StormPc....lol that was like the drag race car that blows it's engine 3 seconds after the green light and "coasts" for a bad time! We NEVER even got the FX/X800XT functioning correctly.
C
I just ran 3DMark01 with stock settings for CPU (12X200) and the X800XT (519.5/560). I got 28,179. So maybe charlie's rig has some issues.