nice to see trinity gpu can be tweaked past 1ghz
can the NB freq be tweaked as well for A10's?
cant wait to see memory OC with these, if i were getting one i definitely get 2400mhz+ kits
nice to see trinity gpu can be tweaked past 1ghz
can the NB freq be tweaked as well for A10's?
cant wait to see memory OC with these, if i were getting one i definitely get 2400mhz+ kits
i dont think he is being rude, i think he is annoyed. he got stuck in a circlejerk :shakes:.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
No, THERMAL design power, its for designing heat sinks and cooling systems (which for AMD is the maximum point). What you want to talk about is ACP (Average CPU Power), which gives you the average power consumption for a chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by xdan
It surely has more sense investing 50$ more to get an inferior dedicated gpu, no overclockeable cause of pci-e sub75w limit + no overclockeable cpu. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by xdan
And that "dedicated gpu" will be probably the most basic, noisy, cheapo-cooling HD6570 + inferior DDR3 1600. :clap:
On the APU side you only invest $130 for the nice cpu(+OC), a nice gpu than when OC'd can stay toe to toe with the HD6750 and be way faster than the new HD7750 DDR3, sure it doesn't make sense :shrug:
It also doesn't make sense when you see intel heavily investing in reducing power consumption and offering the "best gpu" they can for the mobile space. Sure, APU's doesn't make sense.
informal
We don't really need the NDA lift for Trinity, we already know from toms' previews. The only interesting thing will be OC capabilities on the gpu + power onsumption vs Llano.
The boxes, so nice.
I already planned my system:
A10-5800K + Biostar HiFi A85X + G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3 2400
Who need's dedicated gpu? I settle to 1600x900 on 1080p monitor.
Any "inferior" vga it's overclockable 10-15%.Quote:
It surely has more sense investing 50$ more to get an inferior dedicated gpu, no overclockeable cause of pci-e sub75w limit + no overclockeable cpu.
And that "dedicated gpu" will be probably the most basic, noisy, cheapo-cooling HD6570 + inferior DDR3 1600.
On the APU side you only invest $130 for the nice cpu(+OC), a nice gpu than when OC'd can stay toe to toe with the HD6750 and be way faster than the new HD7750 DDR3, sure it doesn't make sense
There are silent version.
The overclock(45-4.7ghz) i don't think it will be possible(cpu+ IGP) without an custom cooler which doesn't sound good for an HTPC/
Anyway where it's the upgrade path, what do you do when you need more cpu power?
AMD should have not split them in two sockets.
Poor AMD. AMD fans can now "Cry me a river"Quote:
On average, Trinity's high-end 384-core GPU manages to be around 16% faster than the fastest Llano GPU, while consuming around 7% more power when active.
Also: AMD attempts to shape review content with staged release of info
Good Job AMD with both how you handle these benchmarking websites & congratulation on releasing a fine chip within its intended price/performance range.
^^Haters gona hate.
i hope the above link is discussed in its own thread and not make this thread out of controlQuote:
Originally Posted by radier
If history repeats itself tbone (which it usually does), it's a good sign when Intel fans and biased websites start knocking a new chip in AMD threads right before it's released...Quote:
Originally Posted by tbone8ty
If anything, all this banter is giving me more hope that Piledriver cores will be a decent upgrade over Bulldozer. :D
We don't have long to wait!
Time will tell OFC, but the more negative comments I see from Intel folks only raises my hopes... ;)
People who buy only one brand have no lesson to give to other people. Fanboyism just sucks, blue side or green side, that's the same $hit.
YEP! Things are looking even better... :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
How is this bad? APU is more like a two core CPU and it's keeping up just fine with a true quad core part. And before you start on the "IPC SUX!!!" thing, I'm only going to let you whine about IPC if you apply it to GPUs as well and you say some NV GPUs are better or worse than some AMDs because they don't perform the same at the same clock speeds.Quote:
Originally Posted by radier
If it does indeed come in at $130 and below, I think it'll succeed marvelously. There's a huge difference in comparing people who buy $200 i5 3xxx CPUs + $200 GPU to people who buy an AMD APU for a third the price. As long as the CPU performance is "good" (better than i3 3xxx in multithread, within a 8-12 percentage points single) I can't see AMD not doing well with it. Given the clockspeed and the throughput from the previews/rumours though, I wouldn't be surprised if release prices were closer to the $150-160 mark for the top end model. At the very least it should succeed as much as the phenom II's did.
I've got time to wait though, I won't have money until internship pays off so I'll be stuck on my "ancient" phenom II 940 for another half a year at the minimum =/.
AMD Trinity - only iGPU part reviews
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...Preview/1.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6332/a...-review-part-1
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...400k,3224.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2043/1/
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/gra...-graphics.html many tetsing games and performance DDR3 clocks/FPS ratio
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-A...ce-and-Gaming/
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Process...rinity-Desktop
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-trin...#ixzz27eY1Tr76
You post an old news from March of this year?
@ FlanK3r
Thanks for the list of previews. Xbitlabs has an interesting page containing sysmark numbers. 5800K is pretty close to FX6200 and faster than FX4170. Pretty good results making it around 12% faster than BD with same core count and clock speed.
Source: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2043/11/Quote:
Legit Bottom Line: The AMD A10-5800K APU looks impressive in the game benchmarks and easily beat the Intel Core i7-3770K, which is a much more expensive processor!
:eek:
Why are you surprised that 5800Ks iGPU is much faster than HD4000 in 3770K? Even Llano is faster than 3770K when you look at iGPU performance...
Take it with irony. LOL
I don't think the focus of OC an APU is the CPU side, but the GPU side. For example from xibit:Quote:
Originally Posted by xdan
If you want pure CPU performance you would probably get one of the PD FX processors and OC that. (or an Intel system)Quote:
Graphics core performance proved amazingly scalable as the memory frequency and bandwidth increased. By simply raising the memory frequency by 266 MHz, we could boost the fps rate by 10-15%. Of course, as the memory frequency increased, this dependence becomes less prominent, but nevertheless, if you are building a Trinity based system and intend to use its graphics core for 3D applications, you must pay special attention to finding high-speed DDR3 SDRAM. This is excellent new for overclocker memory makers, because it creates potentially larger market for them. It is a very convincing argument that you can easily boost the gaming performance of your AMD A10-5800K processor by as much as 15-20% by simply replacing the common DDR3-1600 with DDR3-2400 in your Socket FM2 system.
Also if you saw one of the slides below they showed FM2 will be around for another generation, which means if you need more CPU power the Steamroller APU should get you some (no idea how much).
I also question the "staged release info", but I was thinking, since it is marketing department likely controlling this release, it does make sense to have focus on the GPU of Trinity before the CPU. Not "just" because you dont want people talking about the not as good CPU performance, but you will have everyone talking about PD vs BD. It does make sense to release CPU info for Trinity desktop the same time you as Vishera. That way you get a week discussing one of your strengths before the online conversation changes to PD vs BD (as it will).
The comparation it's just epic fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
They should have sad " the gaming performance of IGP"- because saying Intel Core i7-3770K, which is a much more expensive processor you can understand that if you buy a dedicated vga, 5800K it's better for gaming.
Also to put i7 3770k in this it's just something stupid.
To compare HD 4000 with Trinity you have the new IB i3 3225 with HD 4000 at 144$ even in Trinity 5800K target price.
To bring i7 3770k which it's another class cpu in that review was biased from the begining.
The people who buy i7 3770k, don't buy it for IGP performance , they buy it for cpu performance.