!UPDATE! abit AW9D-Max (retail) arrived

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10-13-2006, 12:09 PM
The Nemesis

I've moved mine over to the testbed. It will be a great board for quick Pi & 3DMark runs since there's no need to enter the bios to set overclocks. The board is great for benching & finding oveclock potential IMO, but not so good for checking an overclock's stability until a more mature bios is released.
10-13-2006, 12:39 PM
Madellga

Quote:

Originally Posted by adehh

Has anyone managed to fit a Thermalright Ultra-120 in an AW9D-MAX? - I'm worried about the MAX heatsink next to the CPU.

Thank ya kindly!

Hi, my first post here. I normally post at Anandtech, but I'm a fan of this forum :toast: - a lot of "real life and down to earth" experiences....

Regarding your question, yes it fits. I just got one myself last weekend. But this is the highest cooler I've ever had, I had to buy also a new case (or mod the old one, not worth the time+money) to make it fit.

Be sure to measure before buying
10-13-2006, 01:03 PM
Madellga

Quote:

Originally Posted by raju

yes only a few board have made it past 402fsb with a retail board at all, kenofstephen has a red board....

I know I am capable of overclocking past 400fsb with other boards, I'm no noob.
My PRO pics prove that..

regards
Raja

And I just want to add 1 more to Raju's numbers....

My E6600 rig runs 24/7 stable 1.375VCore 1.65Vmch 2.05 Vdim at 9x378 (3.4GHz). I can let Orthos run up to 24 hours, no problems.

But I cannot run the E6600 9x400 Orthos stable, no matter what. I tried everything, the best I can do is to get Orthos running for 40 minutes. For this to happen, VCore goes to 1.525, Vmch 1.75 - higher Vmch does not help in this case (tried all the way to 2V), the issue is at VCore.

Using Vmch 2.0V and high VCore (1.55), I can run FSB420 and enter memtest, sometimes I manage to get Windows desktop and run Superpi, but it is not stable.

On the other hand, the E6400 from my second rig can run 8x400 on the AW9D up to 12 hours Orthos stable, VCore 1.375V, Vmch 1.76, VDim 1.95 (Plat). This E6400 does not go much higher than 3.2GHz, to go further I have to reduce the multiplier but experience is similar, Vmch has to go up and even so it is not stable.

I did all: AS5 on the NB/SB, cooler on NB, different DDR2 sticks (I tried OCZ Gold, Plat and Corsair C4). These DDR2 sticks run all the way to FSB450 on the Gigabyte DS4, under 2.1V

3.4Ghz is the sweet spot I decided to take, because Voltages are mild and temperatures are normal. To get just 200MHZ more, it needs all Voltages way up and not worth imo.

I spent a lot of time trying to tweak, reading hundreds of posts, bought different components to try and make it work, it simply doesn't happen. I decided to accept the facts and stop the greed, as 3.4GHz is already a good result.

The mobo is good but I have the feeling it could do better. When I look at the reviews and see what we are getting here, I feel somewhat cheated.....
From now on I only trust what "normal" people post here (including some proof :fact: ...).

I'm tempted to try the P5W64, but I had so many issues with Asus in the past that I'm keeping distance from it.
10-13-2006, 01:12 PM
hornet

It is everything said, I also I opted to this solution. We go to wait for new bios.
10-13-2006, 01:19 PM
ante_ante

Same problems here, uses the beta bios right now and i can´t even boot with anything under multi x9, under the boot up bios say that i´running 517x8 when i set 400x8 in bios. Scary stuffs, and another thing is that everthing else than divider 1:1 won´t work för me....I know my memorys don´t stop, they are good for 600mhz with my P5B DLX.....Abit needs to release a new stable bios.......
10-13-2006, 01:58 PM
Bootsy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madellga

And I just want to add 1 more to Raja's numbers....

My E6600 rig runs 24/7 stable 1.375VCore 1.65Vmch 2.05 Vdim at 9x387 (3.4GHz). I can let Orthos run up to 24 hours, no problems.

But I cannot run the E6600 9x400 Orthos stable, no matter what. I tried everything, the best I can do is to get Orthos running for 40 minutes. For this to happen, VCore goes to 1.525, Vmch 1.75 - higher Vmch does not help in this case (tried all the way to 2V), the issue is at VCore.

Using Vmch 2.0V and high VCore (1.55), I can run FSB420 and enter memtest, sometimes I manage to get Windows desktop and run Superpi, but it is not stable.

On the other hand, the E6400 from my second rig can run 8x400 on the AW9D up to 12 hours Orthos stable, VCore 1.375V, Vmch 1.76, VDim 1.95 (Plat). This E6400 does not go much higher than 3.2GHz, to go further I have to reduce the multiplier but experience is similar, Vmch has to go up and even so it is not stable.

I did all: AS5 on the NB/SB, cooler on NB, different DDR2 sticks (I tried OCZ Gold, Plat and Corsair C4). These DDR2 sticks run all the way to FSB450 on the Gigabyte DS4, under 2.1V

3.4Ghz is the sweet spot I decided to take, because Voltages are mild and temperatures are normal. To get just 200MHZ more, it needs all Voltages way up and not worth imo.

I spent a lot of time trying to tweak, reading hundreds of posts, bought different components to try and make it work, it simply doesn't happen. I decided to accept the facts and stop the greed, as 3.4GHz is already a good result.

The mobo is good but I have the feeling it could do better. When I look at the reviews and see what we are getting here, I feel somewhat cheated.....
From now on I only trust what "normal" people post here (including some proof :fact: ...).

I'm tempted to try the P5W64, but I had so many issues with Asus in the past that I'm keeping distance from it.

Well said!! Thats why I started the orthos stable thread I am still waiting for a 975x board to run my crossfire and take advantge of my memory.
10-13-2006, 01:59 PM
Raja@ASUS

here is my final shot to prove my case, and just to keep the peace I used the extra vcore at 1.65 in bios at 412fsb, and I certainly already new this would not work! (but had to prove it to our friend with the red board)

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2...2failedws3.jpg
10-13-2006, 02:05 PM
The Nemesis

Frys has the 6300 with a throw away ECS M-ATX board for $169. Might try that and see if the abit just doesn't like 6600's. They also have week 32 6600's there. I'm so tempted :)
10-13-2006, 02:19 PM
Raja@ASUS

yes, those who cannot hit over 400 fsb orthos blend stable are the majority not the minority.

regards
Raja
10-13-2006, 02:19 PM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by raju

so here we are 1.63 vcore in bios (probably 1.56-7 actual)
vdimm is 2.35(way more than required)
vmch is 1.9v

410fsb

ram timings spd.

http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/55/410failci4.jpg

Hey raju, can you do me a favor and test that out at 8x?

Certainly i know your cpu should be able to do it at 9x, but at least we can determine what the real issue is that way.
10-13-2006, 02:21 PM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenofstephen

time to bed, should be no problem till tomorrow:)

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...tephen/230.jpg

Hey thanks,

I wasnt calling you a liar, just wanted to make sure this board performs how it should. ;)

:toast:
10-13-2006, 02:23 PM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

One question:
Why do you guys think that the mobo is "unstable" with prime and NOT prime itshelf........
ALL programs crasses once in a while no matter what.......WHY don't you try something else too, except prime?......

Hey Hipro, you make a very good point, personnally i dont like orthos, i loop 3dmark05 all night and its fine, i play oblivion for hours while encoding videos without a single error and then orthos will fail after 30 seconds.

Orthos is more of a tool to prove stability, as i cant show people that i ran 3dmark all night ya know?

I have to clock lower or volt higher to get orthos stable, but when it comes to proving a boards stability, it is hard to argue with.
10-13-2006, 02:26 PM
Raja@ASUS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revv23

Hey raju, can you do me a favor and test that out at 8x?

Certainly i know your cpu should be able to do it at 9x, but at least we can determine what the real issue is that way.

problem is board/bios no doubts, check my previous posting of my asus pro results you can see 425fsb orthos stabilty with same ram, psu and cpu.

Just cos you asked nicley I will do it....

regards
Raja
10-13-2006, 02:35 PM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by raju

problem is board/bios no doubts, check my previous posting of my asus pro results you can see 425fsb orthos stabilty with same ram, psu and cpu.

Just cos you asked nicley I will do it....

regards
Raja

:toast:
10-13-2006, 02:39 PM
BuBBle.D

Ok guys, sorry for going off the theme right now but im getting pretty mad.
So the problem is that my e6600 is running on a 6x multi, but i have it set to 9x in bios. The problem occured after i installed the 1.2 bios and is still present after i have just installed the 1.3beta. CPU-Z shows a 6X multiplier and it doesnt lie, coz my SuperPi time is 31 seconds @ stock speeds. First i thought its some bug in CPU-z but after OC-in the processor to 3.4ghz i ran SuperPi 1M and my time was 22 seconds (:O, shock :P).
What to do?
Thanks
10-13-2006, 02:49 PM
Raja@ASUS

ok I have fulfilled every request to prove my point with patience, please let me be now. A man should not have to prove his integrity this many times.

here ya go, 8x multi failure, same voltages as 9x attempt, ignore the orthos reported cpu speed there is a bios bug.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/879/8xmultiem4.jpg

regards
Raja
10-13-2006, 02:51 PM
Revv23

Thanks for humoring me Raju!

That sucks, hopefully a new bios will fix it.
10-13-2006, 02:52 PM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuBBle.D

Ok guys, sorry for going off the theme right now but im getting pretty mad.
So the problem is that my e6600 is running on a 6x multi, but i have it set to 9x in bios. The problem occured after i installed the 1.2 bios and is still present after i have just installed the 1.3beta. CPU-Z shows a 6X multiplier and it doesnt lie, coz my SuperPi time is 31 seconds @ stock speeds. First i thought its some bug in CPU-z but after OC-in the processor to 3.4ghz i ran SuperPi 1M and my time was 22 seconds (:O, shock :P).
What to do?
Thanks

turn off c1e and intel speedstep.
10-13-2006, 02:59 PM
BuBBle.D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revv23

turn off c1e and intel speedstep.

Both disabled, still the same.
I just hope the board isnt faulty/bad. Any more tips? Thanks.
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6194/cpuzby6.th.jpg
10-13-2006, 03:06 PM
Keiki

umm okay something weird just happened with my system...i turned it off and just when it was gonna shut down i heard one beep and almost whole system went quiet but psu and my 12cm fan(connected to cpu fan on mobo) that was cooling my 7950gx2 kept going for about 2mins O_o
10-13-2006, 03:18 PM
Nettwerk

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuBBle.D

Both disabled, still the same.
I just hope the board isnt faulty/bad. Any more tips? Thanks.
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6194/cpuzby6.th.jpg

Home/office desk under display monitor power is selected right?
10-13-2006, 03:24 PM
BuBBle.D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nettwerk

Home/office desk under display monitor power is selected right?

Just checked, it is, yes.
10-13-2006, 04:47 PM
Zucker2k

I'm having some hard times with this mobo. Anyone here been able to run 1:1 ratio with an OCZ Rev. 2 Plats? Thanks.
10-13-2006, 04:51 PM
Charles Wirth

There is a SPD update from OCZ but you would need to request it through Tony. It requires reprogramming one module at a time in windows.

Have you tried bios 13 yet? You can flash with the ABit program "Flashmenu" on the Max board even though it is not listed as supported.
10-13-2006, 05:04 PM
Zucker2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUGGER

There is a SPD update from OCZ but you would need to request it through Tony. It requires reprogramming one module at a time in windows.

Have you tried bios 13 yet? You can flash with the ABit program "Flashmenu" on the Max board even though it is not listed as supported.

Thanks Fugger. I have indeed updated to bios 13 and no luck. I'll pm Tony asap. Thanks.

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