Quote:
Originally Posted by loften
It's a single rail I believe with a split 4/8 pin connection. The 1200W one is indeed a double 12v rail.
850W:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153043
1200W:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153054
I'm having a very weird issue with my Formula..........maybe someone can help??
Am running 2 Raptors in RAID0 with Vista on my Maximus Formula SE, and also have a single 500gb drive with Vista as well in case my RAID takes a dump.
In BIOS I set SATA Configuration to RAID, everything runs great........can boot into Windows on the Raptors and the single drive no problems at all. However, I'm planning on selling my Raptors, so I disconnected them, went into BIOS and turned off RAID in SATA Configuration and also converted them back to single drives in the RAID Utility Manager. Then I rebooted..........but it won't recognize my single drive AT ALL.
I cannot get the drive to be recognized without a RAID setup. As soon as I plug the Raptors back in (and a frickin format and OS install too) and set BIOS SATA Configuration back to RAID, everything is fine and I can boot into Windows on the both RAID and single drive no problem. But when I unplug the Raptors, and try a single drive, it won't recognize the drive nor boot.
I've tried setting the SATA Configuration to IDE (Enhanced), IDE (Compatible), even AHCI........none work for a single drive.
Any ideas????
No, FSB470~475+ isn't feasible. I'm preety sure this is due to the FSB wall winthin the Q6600 G0 (FSB/Strap 266 CPU). This mobo isn't too 65nm quad friendly but I'll hope for the better when I get a FSB/Strap 333 45nm Q9450/Q9550, 8.0/8.5x multi and try again.Quote:
Originally Posted by XtremeTiramisu
RF Bios is still in the beta stage, maybe after some revisions to the bios I'll be able to push my FSB further. So far it's an improvment over my previous P35 P5K-Dlx config.
I can do fsb 475 here with a q6600, so its probably your chip.
Skyguy, maybe try taking all of the drives out (except the one you want to install the OS on), setting up your BIOS for single drive and formatting and installing?
RF bios more stable for 3D bench....
PCI-E @ 110, PLL @ 1.6V and vmem @ 2.2V the rest with autos
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/169...shot338xc6.jpg
Are you saying that the BIOS Main page doesn't list the single drive if not RAID mode? It should. Or are you saying the drive isn't listed in the boot order menu?Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyguy
If the later, (at least on my P5E WS Pro) there's a second menu where you must specify the single drive as bootable and then it will appear in the boot order menu. Can you check into this? Hope it helps.
Just so you know, if only one HDD connected the Intel ICHxR in RAID or AHCI enabled, you will NOT see any list of drives during POST. This is noraml and has been. BIOS can only see 2 or more HDD's connected to the hub. A single is or will be there, it is just not displayed in POST.
You must however leave the Intel RAID driver installed after you converted your OS to single disc in RAID ready mode. Were you coming from a 0 back to non RAID sinle or from 1?
How did you convert your RAID to single? Windows based or DOS?
But if you cannot boot to XP even as IDE mode off Intel SATA ICHxR, then something else went wrong during conversion.
Hi, i have been following this thread for some time but only just had my account validated. First of all many thanks to The Stilt for the mod in the first place. I have been running the RF bios on my MF for around 3 weeks and found it to be much more stable, i have my Q6600 at 3.6Ghz under WCooling. But recently I installed some OCZ ReaperX ( 2 X 2Gig) and have run into stability problems even at stock speeds they are the 800Mhz version but OZC Tony on their forums says that these should still run at 1066Mhz as they are the same chips as the higher speed version. I have the TRef at 55 which is the nearest to the recommended 54 that i can get (I have tried many of the bios settings posted on this thread). This seems the most stable but i still get blue screens occasionally, usually after one hour or so the computer can be running an app or at idle it doesn't seem to make any difference. I will post more info on my settings and system later when i have more time, but was wondering if anyone else was using this ram with their setup and come across similar problems? Anyway just wanted to say hello to everyone, and get my first post out of the way, Best Regards Tony.
and it's probably also the diff cooling method we use. I'm on high end air and you're on water. But using *9 multi I could push the cpu mhz in the mid 3800s and stable, the system does suffer from instability using *8 multi and FSB470+Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Can you post your BIOS settings template at 475FSB*8 multi? and the bios version, thx
Edit: Nevermind, I saw you're using a 45nm 333fsb/strap E8400 dual core cpu in your sig...this anwers my question now. Your CPU is undoubtedly behaves in a completely diff way than my Q6600 G0. First being 45nm architechture, 333fsb/strap and it's a dual core as opposed to my 65nm, 266fsb/strap and quad. Obviously my cpu will run into a fsb wall before yours. 475fsb for a 333fsb/strap cpu is nothing spectacular really if we compare the fsb increase % to a 266fsb/strap cpu at 466fsb for example. So unless a 45nm 333fsb/strap chip can push well over 500fsb and being stable, that would be considered as a great advancement. However, in that case it may be limited by the current available mobo which can handle at such a high fsb and stay stable under hours of stress tests for daily use.
Sorry guys, I'm sure this has already been asked.. but, 109 pages :S, thats alot of reading :S
Does this board play nice with 4 sticks of identical stuff? how about not identical stuff? I'm running 4 gigs (4X1GB however, 2 dif kits, ones 64mb X 16chips X 2sticks the other is 128mb X 8chips X 2sticks) of Crucial Ballistix 1066 and I'm very dissapointed in my results. Granted, its not it its final config (airflow isn't as good as its going to be), I cant seem to get this thing stable at 1:1 at 500FSB, which I know this ram can do. Running the strap at 400, but I'm really not sure how that works, something to do with an internal NB clock? gotta research that more...
I have extreme problem:
Only ALL 3 DRAM led are ON, and nothing else (fans are working fine). There is no beep, no picture (I've try to change ram, moved ram to different slots,... even without ram) ANY IDEAS WELCOME
I mentioned this in an edited earlier post, but as I'm playing with my overclock settings, what are the highest temps I should be around (Cores, NB, SB) under a full Prime95 load?
Thanks!
Odd, I have the regular Ballartix and they looked liek 16 chip double sided and so are my TRacers. Anywayz, I can say the regular and Tracers mixed fine and so did the Tracers and OCZ Plats or Corsair Dominators and OCZ Plats. They all did well to 500FSB in 1:1 all 4 but needed more NB to 1.52v and FSBT to 1.488v. Keep the NB as low as can to keep the heat down cause 4 sticks taxes any mobo and especially on OC. But I did get my 4 to DDR1000 @ 4-5-4-13, where 4-4-4-10 was norm for 2. So not bad. Timings will need to be loosened to keep stable as this is stress on MCH, So carefull of too high FSBT too. Try to keep under 1.504vQuote:
Originally Posted by MrWizard6600
Sounds like RAM issue, but not certain. I'd look for different RAM and test 1 slot at a time. You will need at least 1 to boot. Boot only w/ CPU RAM and VGA, nothing else for starters. Pull PSU pwr & battery + tap PWR button every few seconds for over 1 min.Quote:
Originally Posted by M-XXXX
In over over 6 months of use, I found 55c to be so so for stability for NB but can get iffy up to 60c and so 51c is comfort zone for mine. SB, 36c - 41c is cool but can hit 44c-49c in the summer heat. I'd try to keep the SB under 48c max for SATA RAID stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by jwfitt
Just got my 1.03 board fitted and plumbed in, hit the power button to bleed the loops up away it goes, hold power button in to stop so i can top up t-lines and now nothing, reset cmos via rear switch, moved ram to various slots and nada, when i go for a power on the little leds on the mobo for the ram, nb & sb all flicker on for a nano second then nothing, Lcd is showing cpu init.. Just removed the battery and off to do a little shpping for a few hours, hope i havent killed it :shrug:
Any suggestions? cpu is an E8400, psu corsair 650 and 2 gig of Tracers, i have also tried both 4 & 8 pin eatx power..
Cheers Griff
What BIOS version and BIOS history usage? What CPU? Try some of the remedies I and others mention just a day ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff
Never got into the bios, it ran for about 10 seconds whilst i was trying to fill the loops then nothing, fault finding with duel external loops is not a lot of fun :shakes: Loops dismantled and its now sat on the bed, have mofset back plates on, they are insulated but its now nagging at me that i may have a short..Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Trying to get it to run with a E6600 then update bios for One that agrees with E8400, Reading identical problem on Asus forums, the guy ended up going RMA in the end..
Zucker2k used to do 500fsb on his quad not 45nm chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by XtremeTiramisu
Does anybody know a "fix" to run at 333 strap? 400 is rock solid but if I change it and run Prime my system will reboot(sometimes after 10 min or 3 hrs) and hang on "DET RAM".
adjust your settings, I only use the 333 strap and run my ram rock solid at 1175MHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by golfjam
Post your current settings and we can see where adjustments need to be made
Thanks much! I'll get them up today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Quote:
Originally Posted by XtremeTiramisu
I will quote myself again. Anyway, I'm on MF bios 1004; yes, it makes a huge difference for my quad in terms of stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I had a problem like that on my maximus formula and my rampage formula and the only way to get it to work was to remove everything but the cpu for it to boot. Then i spent hours putting stuff in to see if it was a faulty ram ,g card ,sound card etc. And i found nothing really other that it would just do it at random times. I have rma`d both mobo`s now and am using a DFI mobo with all the same parts and have no cold boot problems at all. I think its just a faulty batch of chips that got out as it happens to some not all and i got both my MF and RF from the same pc shop.Quote:
Originally Posted by M-XXXX
A big welcome Tony..Seems the chaps are a bit pre occupied to say hello...Quote:
Originally Posted by Reg Fessenden
edited*
strap 333 is the most easy i have benced fsb 500@600MHz memory
OK, here we go:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Asus Maximus Formula, e8400, 4 GB G-Skill PC2 8500 RAM, 8800GTS video, PC Power and Cooling 750 PSU, Gigabyte Aurora 3d case. Running XP Pro SP2. Bios 0907
Cooling is self built. mostly water, MCP655 pump, PA 120.3 rad (mounted on back of case with 3 medium speed Yates pulling), D-Tek Fuzion CPU block (with washer only), DD Ione video block, EK NB-S-Max northbridge block, XSPC 5 1/4 bay reservoir (components are in that order in loop). Fluid is distilled water with a few drops of Petra's nuke, TIM is MX-2 except CPU which is AS-5. All tubing is 1/2" ID, 3/4" OD. South bridge is air cooled with Thermalright HR-05 IFX with Sythe fan, mosfets with Thermalright HR-09 Type 2 sinks, RAM is cooled by a Corsair Dominator.
Bios settings:
Thanks very much for any tips!Code:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 333
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate :
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
CAS# Latency : 5,5,5,15
RAS# to CAS# Delay :
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# ActivateTime :
RAS# to RAS# Delay :
Row Refresh Cycle Time :
Write Recovery Time :
Read to Precharge Time :
Read to Write Delay (S/D) :
Write to Read Delay (S) :
Write to Read Delay (D) :
Read to Read Delay (S) :
Read to Read Delay (D) :
Write to Write Delay (S) :
Write to Write Delay (D) :
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : AUTO
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : AUTO
PCIE Spread Spectrum : AUTO
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : ENABLED
Vanderpool Technology : ENABLED
Execute Disable Bit : ENABLED
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : AUTO
I got old rev Ballistix and new rev ones. They're tracers too. I'm sure, ones 16X64, double sided and the other is 8X128, single sided.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Tried all the settings you've suggested and more. I'm running stock now, but I donno about 500, at 500 is somewhat stable, but nuts to 500, 503 was the last I tried and at 2hrs of orthos + general use + a screen shot at the end, it BSODd. so 500 might get me on track. But this thing posts up to 570!, I think my little E6300 is a trooper and I wanna get every clock out of it I can!
Funny thing is when I set the FSB:mem speed at anything other then auto, it fails to post. Always.
bah, I'll deal with this when I get it into a proper case :p.
Try this for a start
You might need to adjust a few settings, vcore and NB
lmk
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 890
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
( enabled will give better bandwidth but might create instability in ram)
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0
CPU Voltage : 1.35 ( you may need to adjust this)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
I read all this with envy, i would be happy if mine just posted, looking on ebay now for some cheep Geil ddr2 to try and get a post, not confident as the other 99 ideas i tried via google all gave nada in return, This board with a 4ghz E8400 and a GX2 would make an ideal gaming rig imho...:shrug:
Thank you! Will give it a shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
greetings
i have 0907 what bios do you recomend...
really usefull this thread thanks guys :clap:
bios 1004 is the best so far imhoQuote:
Originally Posted by MrHydes
A couple of the settings couldn't be matched, bios version differences I guess. These:Quote:
Originally Posted by wreckwriter
DRAM Frequency- DDR2 890 not available, had to use 891
ROW REFRESH CYCLE TIME- 50 not available, highest was 42
Anyway, no post. Tried CPU voltages of 1.3125. 1.3750, 1.2500, 1.4375. No post on all.
Heard some reports of 1004 not saving settings. I assume you haven't had this problem? Can 1004 be reverted to 0907?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
hmm not sure if i should change because have this so stable and i'm so close of scoring 20k in 30Dmark06...Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
i'm going to wait first the score then i change thanks
by the way what ate the highlights int bios @1004?
BIOS 1004 kicks ass even over the Rampage BIOS. I could get up to 3.77GHz stable (470x8) on 0903. Now up to 3.97GHz (440x9) 400 strap. Rampage BIOS is RAM friendly though, I was able to get the RAM at 1253MHz at the cost of cpu speed, I could only get 3.6GHz stable. I rec BIOS 1004:up:
EDIT: 0907, not 0903.
what does the lcd poster report?Quote:
Originally Posted by wreckwriter
det ram?
and what bios are you running?
It never changes from "en setup". Bios 0907.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
O.K. since this was predominately a RAM sub timing tread for MAXIMUS, maybe some of you can help here or at least give commnt. These are my current settings for tested stable profile but now back on BETA BIOS v0903 and still 480x8 w/ E6750 and Ballistix Tracers as in sig, old batch
NOTE where [] is as set in CMOS and = ___ is as reported
FSB Strap to North Bridge: [Auto] (no manual of anything works, but gives me the spd I need)
PCI-E Frequency: [110]
DRAM Frequency: [DDR2-1153]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual] (have to use Auto for 1:1 or it wonnt POST)
Primary Info : 5-5-5-15-3-42-6-3
CAS# Latancy: [5]
RAS# to CAS# Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [15]
RAS# to RAS# Delay: [Auto] = 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: [Auto] = 42
Write Recovery time: [Auto] = 6
Read to Precharge Time: [Auto] = 3
Secondary Info : 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay(S/D): [Auto] = 8
Write to Read Delay(S): [Auto] = 3
Write to Read Delay(D): [Auto] = 5
REad to Read Delay(S): [Auto] = 4
Read to Read Delay(D): [Auto] = 6
Write to write Delay(S): [Auto] = 4
Write to Write delay(D): [Auto] = 6
DRAM Static Read Control: [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister: [Moderate]
Transaction Booster: [Auto]
RElax Level [N/A]
I'm 1st wanting to know if they are already to tight in the sub settings as used by Auto or if not, what areas to tighten or loosen for stability and smoothness, not scores. I dont mind better performance just so long that it doesnt cost stability.
I have never had an issue with 1004 and it can be reverted using Asus Update or the proper version of AFUDOSQuote:
Originally Posted by wreckwriter
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrHydes
1004 offers a higher trfc options so 4GB users will benifit and its very 45nm friendly
now it's too late 'cause i've dropped a 2Gb module :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
what GPU did you run b4 the 9800GX2?
What fsb are you running at?Quote:
Originally Posted by wreckwriter
vcore?
VNB?
He's shooting for 4.0GHzQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
445x9
NB 1.49
vCore 1.35
This chip did 4.0ghz in my P5K-e 8x500 so thats why I was asking for your current bios settings Here are my current setting at 4.2ghzQuote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
x9 multi
FSB = 468
FSB Strap = 400 Which gives me DDR2 1247
PCI-E = 110
Ram timings= 5 5-5-15
DRAM static read is Disabled
Ai Clock Twister is Strong
Trans Booster is Enabled
Boost Level is 0
NB (Set at) 1.57
Ram V's (Set at) 2.12
LLC = Enabled
DDR2 Controller Ref = DDR2 Ref
a friend gave me these and they are good for 9x463 I just wanted to get a 500 FSB was wondering if your setting could help.
I just tried you setting and they work for 4.0ghz np.
This is running a E8400
from memory I think it was.....
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0
CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
hope it helps
If you are using g. skill ram this is a good beginners guide
here
someone can tell me what temps you have in NB, SB, FSB
That's what I used to get my RAM to 1066 but it does only RAM settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle
I can't remember if I installed the OS on the RAID first or the single drive. It *might* have been the RAID...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Is there some order of operations that I should be doing in order to get Vista working with a single drive to work, and then a RAID??? In case I want to remove the RAID later, I'd like to be able to use a single drive obviously.
I think I'll give 1004 a shot tomorrow. Thanks for all your time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
CPU- 29-31Quote:
Originally Posted by MrHydes
NB- 28-30
SB- 31-32
All it appears need changed really from what I had was the AI twister. Why would that matter so much from strong to meduim. Also ive seen a program that cptures bios setting in windows anyone remember that program and where to download it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
we need a thread with nothing but the chips and settings listings Fsb, voltage ,bios settings etc... Then make this a discussion thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by trt740
Ok mission accomplished for me
Eliminated DET DRAM hang permanantly
I had turn off/on pc and restart them 5 times a day in the last 4 days and No More DET Dram hang.
One simple setting : Northbridge core at v1.63
How do you make a CF or Pro stick Dou bootable to use? THe tick box for MS Bootable is not selectable for external USB memory stick. I want to use the Afudos but recent ROM files are too big for floppy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
oh ja, what happened to the ASUS FTP server site, it ask for log in now? Any new links?
For VISTA, nothing speciall really, since the ioStor driver is already integrated into Vista and if you want you can still F6 & direct to newest driver (ioStor v7.8.0.1012) from USB or HDD, as long as RAID is selected in BIOS. This is better since you will often end up updating anywayz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyguy
Thank you for the reply. It was a bad stick. So much for the "Dominator" name. My system is rock stable again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
So easy to trash a name. Try wearing a ground strap handling your silicon. Corsair has gotten me to 1253. Tested for 1066
Lose the TW in the link...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Greetings. I just built a rig with a Maximus Formula, QX9650, and 8 GB G.Skill 8500.
So far, I can get prime95 stable at 3.6 GHz at VCORE of 1.26, but 3.85 GHz is just not happening!
My settings for 3.6 GHz are 400 FSB, 9X multipler, Load Line Calibration enabled, DRAM at 2.00V. Everything else auto (except VCORE). Full load temps are about 63*C with a Thermalright 120 extreme and AS5.
But I'm having a nasty time trying to get prime stable at 3.85 GHz. When I was working on this last night, I was applying VCORE around 1.40+, getting load temps of 70*C, and still wasn't fully prime95 stable.
I thought I could get a QX9650 to 3.85 on a MF with far less VCORE than that.
Can anyone suggest some settings or tell me what major mistake I'm making?
Thanks!
:up:Yep, indeed you need quite a bit NB volt for X38 chipset mobo to permenantly eliminate DET RAM hang. I had to set mine for 1.65v in bios to get 99.9% stability at 465+ FSB with a Q6600 G0 using *8 multi.Quote:
Originally Posted by icecpu
NB temp is idling at ~46c, full load ~52c ish depends on application. So no worries about higher than average volt on the NB. X38 is meant to take this much volt and beyond. However past 1.7v on the NB isn't recommended on a daily basis. Intel spec does state the max volt on the x38 MCH is up to 1.93v IIRC. Temp is really what you should worry about. Great case ventilation is highly recommended
Check your NB voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimsdale
I had a hard time with this. I need 1.41v for 100% stable 4.0 GHz on this. I found that bumping up the NB and FSBTerm helped stabilize it.
Wow, that is way more then I ever used. 2 of mine on known good BIOS will and have always booted fine on minimal NB and or VDIMM so I dont know whats up with all this. I can onl guess it has a lot to do with the BETA BIOS of v907 and up. I only use1.504v on NB all the way to 502FSB as daily user and many Primed sessions (loaded it droops to 1.488) and even on my current 5:6 at a reasonable 480FSB. FSBT is up to 1.488v This includes many S3, s4 and cold boots, at each stck and several OC profiles.Quote:
Originally Posted by XtremeTiramisu
For me, 907 most certainly corrupted something in BIOS chip, cause this never happened before and was so even after trying to go to any other BIOS even to 1st. I refused to accept this is normal, so I asked for an RMA and it just came back last week. So I will stick with known stable v903 till I find an absolute need to venture above.
and it's gonna go higher it's priming now :shocked: :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
What NB voltage would you recommend? The "AUTO" setting in the 1004 bios was volting the NB at 1.61 or thereabouts, which was causing the NB to reach about 60*C at sustained load in prime95.
So I just manually set the NB voltage to 1.50 and it seems to be doing better. NB is holding around 55*C and system seems just as stable.
I'm just a noob, but it almost seems that having too high a NB voltage might have been a problem!
I had the same issue with Blitz formula. It had to do with DRAM voltage, when st to > 2.08v the system wolud powerup but not boot after being off for a few hours. Many others reported the same with Blitz Formula in Asus forums. I have my DRAM at 1.9 v and resolved the problem. Not an elegent solution but works for me at present:)Quote:
Originally Posted by wilson
If you're using the same CPU as stated in your sig, there is nothing to be surprised about the high NB it needs for a 65nm Quad 6600 G0. I don't really care if i can boot into windows and post a reply on XS using NB 1.51v but fails or get blue screens in Prime blend or OCCT Mix. 1.65v is what this X38 MF mobo needs to get the job done at high fsb with a 65nm quad, whereas my P35 P5K-Dlx can get away with 1.55v bios set(not sure the actual NB volt). So for now I don't really see a real benefit going from a P35 to X38 besides the PCI-E 2.0 interface ready and better "futureproof" friendly? like all you 45nm cpu OCers are having fun with this board. However, x38 MF is definetely faster than p35 clock for clock in Everest bench and even in real world applications...if I go with the *9 multi route, I can even clock the CPU mhz pass 3800s and prime/occt stable with lower NB volts than going with the *8 multi route. When I get a 45nm quad possibly a Q9550 8.5x multi, I'm sure the whole OC config will be affected by this change in a positive way. MF favours 45nm CPUs or vice versa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
Word!Quote:
Originally Posted by ElEctric_EyE
Many thanks to the OP, flashed my p5e without any dramas.
Hi, I tested my pc in sign, with few benchmark in default mode:
-memtest
-prime
-orthos
-3D mark06
-everest stability test
-OCCT
First 5 tested worked fine didn't find any issue. Only occt found a problem.
Ran in auto mode (1h), after few minutes my pc shoutdown and reboot.
Why? Can be my psu (undersize)?
This may only be usefull to CPU tower coolers of wich a 120mm fan can be placed in rear as well.
I had to remove the front fan of my Ultra 120 eXtreme cause of HR-07 RAM coolers. This fan in rear under loading (high to 1600rpm) and 92mm on RAM facing right down on NB open barbs appears to help in system temps bt a few C's. On warm days w/ a NB of 1.50v and FSBT of 1.488, SB 1.10v and SB 1.5 of 1.60v, I only get 42c regular use, and not much over 44c loaded for several hrs in Prime 95 v25.5. I used to reach 50c on slightly warmer day (just near the end of fall) but with NO fan on RAM.
I did remove the X38 chipset IHS below the Fusion block and mounted directly w/ AS#5 so this is also helping.
My 2nd mobo also fluxes on NB & FSBT during 100% loading, and SB 1.5 when set to 1.55 now bumps to 1.6, not 1.58v like 1st mobo, but still runs much cooler so it's fine.
does anybody have a qx9650 profile here? i can't go beyond 4Ghz
use this to make a bootable USB stick, then toss AFUDOS and the rom file on it and your set.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/Asus_Rampage/HPUSBFW.zip
http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/Asus_Rampage/USB-Boot.zip
From my experience, you need to bump the vcore and CPUpll alot with QX9650 when going further than 4 GHz in order for it to be stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by bugkalot
I needed 1.54v set in BIOS for vcore and 1.58v set in BIOS for CPUpll for it to be stable at 4.45GHz. As opposed to 1.40v vcore/1.50v CPUpll for 4GHz.
(9x445v for 4GHz and then 10x445v for 4.45GHz)
Didnt like the temps I was seeing, so I therefore settled on 4GHz to keep my temps nice and cool (with 25C ambient my cores gets to 53-54C after a day of stresstesting (Prime95 small FFT's).
That did the trick. Flashed to 1004, entered the setting Grnfinger gave me yesterday, system posted and booted into Windows no problem. Prime95 running now 15 or 20 minutes so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by wreckwriter
Should I now try to reduce CPU voltage or work towards getting the RAM speed faster?
You guys rock! Thanks so much for your help!
Well, Prime stable we are not just yet. Research time :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wreckwriter
Run prime using small fft's if you are not, let her run 2 hours or so, if it passes your CPU is stable, then run it again on blend that will test the ramQuote:
Originally Posted by wreckwriter
if your crapping out on small ftt's up the vcore a notch or 2, you might need a notch on the NB as well
Anyways glad the settings worked out for you
I tried on small ffts to start, thread 1 crapped out after about 20 minutes. Now the baby is sleeping so I'm on my other son's pc doing research for an hour or 2. When he wakes up I'll tweak volts a bit and retry. Definitely though the 1004 bios made a huge difference. Could even post with these same settings yesterday but today at least I'm in the game. I'm sure stability is just a notch or 2 away :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
your on the right path, I'm sure stability is right around the corner
keep us posted.....
Yeah. I think your high temps might have been an issue there.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimsdale
Do you have good airflow? Spot coolers might help too.
Is there a thermographic shot of this board somewhere? Should help in isolating and cooling very hot spots.
Do to miss information bios 215 will not be available, mc2k's board shipped with bios 219:(
OK, I'm having some serious trouble with OCing this board. It doesn't help that I am a super noob at OCing, but I just dont get it. I recently flashed 0219 to my Maximus SE a few days ago, I did use the .bat files, so if that might have caused some problems, let me know.
OK, basically what is happening is I am getting a DET RAM with every OC setting I try. I have tried messing with my sticks, with no avail, I have run memtest, and tried taking the voltage up. I also tried taking the PCI-E frequency up to 112. I have also tried just running a very non agressive OC of 333x9 with a 333strap, and a 667 RAM Speed. I also tried using the other regular settings that everyone else has been getting quad stability with. My proc is a GO Q6600, and my ram is 4x1 G.Skill F2-6400.
I am tempted to flash back to MF1004 and see if I can get anywhere there, although I would like to keep my Maximus Rampage if possible.
:(
Quote:
Originally Posted by wreckwriter
Yup, please keep us posted, Coz I'm in the same boat as you were yesterday!!!
Webster, check the specs on G.Skill in the support forums on here.
I found out that a pair of G.Skill I had would only be stable at their rated speed with a FSB of 333. Otherwise I would get errors in Memtest86+ and random crashes while gaming.
The Rampage bios is a real bugger to get set right, once you do you will have a very stable and fast rig.
Post your current bios settings so suggestions can be made.
What clock are you trying for?
Tweaking NB volt and CPU volt in smallest increments. Getting a bit farther in prime with each tweak. If you are where I was yesterday are you still on bios 0907?Quote:
Originally Posted by rcjian
Yes my mobo is still running with bios 0907! And thinking of going to 1004 too!Quote:
Originally Posted by wreckwriter
I would highly recommend 1004Quote:
Originally Posted by rcjian
As would I. I couldn't get anywhere with 0907. It was stable though at stock speeds. 1004 seems stable so far too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Ok thanks, I'll give it a shot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I hear you! Same here!Quote:
Originally Posted by wreckwriter
Here are my settings
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 333
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 112
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800/DDR2-667 (Neither avoid DET DRAM)
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto/Strong (Neither works)
Transaction Booster : Manual
C/P: A1 A2 | B1 B2
LVL: 08 08 | 08 08
Common Performance Level [5]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
CPU Voltage : Auto
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
DRAM Voltage : Auto/ but have messed around up to 2.2V
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Auto
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
I would really like to get to 4Ghz, but I would be happy with at least 3.6, I have the water to handle it. I tried to clock it up, but no luck there, so I thought this might be a good place to start.:shrug:
Temporarily (I hope) stuck here. Started with these settings:
testing with Prime95 Small FFTs:Code:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 890
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
( enabled will give better bandwidth but might create instability in ram)
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0
CPU Voltage : 1.35 ( you may need to adjust this)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
Prime failed on core 1 after about 15 minutes during the 10K test.
Changed NB voltage to 1.55- Prime failed after 17 minutes during 10k test.
Left NB at 1.55 changed CPU voltage to 1.35625- Prime failed after 23 minutes during 10k test.
Changed NB voltage to 1.57 left CPU voltage at 1.35625- Prime failed after 19 minutes during 10k test.
Dropped NB voltage back to 1.55, changed CPU voltage to 1.36250- Prime failed after 22 minutes during 10k test.
Seems to indicate something other than NB or CPU voltage is holding it back. Ideas?
Thanks!
I dont run a quad anymore so try this for a start and we can tweak it up after 3.6GHz is running smooth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Webster
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333 / 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-961 / 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto (leave this to auto for now)
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto (leave this to auto for now)
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45-50
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stonger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level 7
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.45 ( you may need to go higher )
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 ( this might need adjustment)
DRAM Voltage : 2.1
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
Either you reached your limit, or you don't have enough volts on the cpu. With me, high volts (1.7 BIOS) on the cpu with water cooling, it is stable... I am responding to you because I know I can't go above 440 with my Q6600 on 9x. On 8x I get to 470, so logically it's not a FSB issue, it's cpu. More Volts on the cpu i'd say...Quote:
Originally Posted by wreckwriter
I agree with E E more vCore should do the trick, just watch your temps
Yea, that does seem to be the trick. 1.375 in bios, indicates in Everest as 1.35. Prime is running the 20k tests now, well over an hour running. What is the limit Intel says for normal operation? I seem to recall 1.38? Is that right? CPU temp is hovering around 50.
At 50c I wouldnt worry to much about what Intel has to say
Glad its working out for you