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Originally posted by Onepagebook
Here is the hope for you guys:
Don't sell your s939 yet!
;)
http://www.e04hardware.com/lp3939.jpg
Oskar Wu, friend of mine, said that he will do the 6 layers pcb on the Lan party 3 939(NF3 250) with 2.2v vcore and 3.3v Vddr!:D
and I will have ES during the the 3rd week of this month! Stay tune!
So when can we expect the boards to be available retail? Any idea?
John
might be the beginning of August:(
i will have ES soon...:D
Well, dry ice can be hit or miss and if I remember right OPP was runnning a 3500+ for socket 939
Today's benching was a complete mystery. Even on AIR the X800XT was squirrelly, BOTH of them. Like locking up at default CPU/GPU clocks...
So, in other words... there WAS NO benching. No stats no conclusions, just like a NASCAR race when the race car has electrical problems on the start line before the race starts. There they call it "DNF" Did Not Finish. That was today's story.
Draw absolutely NO CONCLUSIONS about 939's from this, the setup just NEVER got going...
It was probably something simple, but I'm just toooooooo tired to care/deal with it.
C
I give up on the LAN, from what i get my locks don't work anyway. I have the A8V clockgen and bigtoe's bios saved to a hard drive. The board won't post with the locks enabled in the bios, and when i increase HTT with clockgen agp/pci were increasing when HTT was increased. Here's a shot @ 2.64 on air with 1.65 volts. I had one over 2.7, but i must not have copied and pasted right because i can't find it now. I guess it's just going to be an expensive paperweight until i get a good board....:rolleyes:
My X800XT is chugging along nicely. Just hit my first target with CPU clocked at only 2.66GHz. Next target: 14K in 3DMark03. :D
http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/...017_detail.jpg
So what? The second fastest 2k1 score in the world was a 3400+ S754. Yeah, a 3500+ at over 3100MHz. He posted screenies.Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
Well, dry ice can be hit or miss and if I remember right OPP was runnning a 3500+ for socket 939
S939 is good for posting screenies, just not too good for running programs where data needs to be processed by the CPU to and from the VC.:rolleyes:
Yeah, you see... if I wasn't so "burned out" on this whole thing, I'd just ask you for your setup details and find the "glitch" in my setup.... but I just don't have it "IN ME". ya know?Quote:
Originally posted by sierra_bound
My X800XT is chugging along nicely. Just hit my first target with CPU clocked at only 2.66GHz. Next target: 14K in 3DMark03. :D
http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/...017_detail.jpg
I STILL think it was a BIOS mistake (user error) or a hdwe incompatibility or something ?? Who know, maybe a loose cable?? I was getting HDD not recognized error msg's.Who knows? But like i said, this is in NO WAY an indictment of the gear..... more likely the "user", lol
BUT NONETHELESS, thanks to STORMPC for letting me try his 2 x x800xt's unfortunately, the "race" never started :(
C
Charlie - I'm wondering if there isnt an incompatability between the board and the x800xt's?
Seems there was someone somewhere on the forum having issues with lockups while the processor was overclocked... but once at stock all was fine?
It was something like that, anyways.
I'm currently running an X800XT with my A8V with no problems.
Come on Charlie, you are way too hard on yourself. And it was a pleasure. You're very welcome.
I would understand if it was just you, but OPP and Jason? Am I the only one who thinks it's odd the neither of them published a single 3DMark bench worth a damn?
Either the S939 has issues or OPP and Jason don't know as much as you think they do. Since I know that they know their $hit, it's apparent to me that it's S939 that's to blame. So much for the Holy Grail! Actually, I think VIA is to blame. Their first attempt at a chipset that locks the AGP/PCI busses was a flop!:mad:
STEvil: All was not fine at stock.
BMG: That's nice. Where are your 3D benches?:confused:
Well, from what I can see just in this thread sierra_bound has you by 1.5k and you're both running about the same cpu speed. 2657/11 would be 241 fsb so you were only 11 behind in fsb. Even if you were using a 12 multi, there isn't a change that 30 more on the memory would give you 1.5k. I'd say your just slower.
charlie try going back to the 1005.020 bios. After play'n around with my x800pro vivo-> modded for a couple of hours i couldnt bench at 201x11 with my locks enabled on the 1005.021 bios. Dont know why dont know how but i finially flashed back to the 1005.020 bios and im chugging along fine now.Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
Today's benching was a complete mystery. Even on AIR the X800XT was squirrelly, BOTH of them. Like locking up at default CPU/GPU clocks...
So, in other words... there WAS NO benching. No stats no conclusions, just like a NASCAR race when the race car has electrical problems on the start line before the race starts. There they call it "DNF" Did Not Finish. That was today's story.
Draw absolutely NO CONCLUSIONS about 939's from this, the setup just NEVER got going...
It was probably something simple, but I'm just toooooooo tired to care/deal with it.
C
Not only am I running a lower FSB but I have no mods and I'm running air. His rig is modded I believe, but I know for a fact both his CPU and GPU are on water. What's your point? That a watercooled S939 FX-53 can beat an aircooled 3700+? Now there's a revelation!:lol:Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
Well, from what I can see just in this thread sierra_bound has you by 1.5k and you're both running about the same cpu speed. 2657/11 would be 241 fsb so you were only 11 behind in fsb. I'd say your just slower.
Want to guess what I could do on water?:rolleyes:
If only I had a X800XT. This is on a stock Mach2 I think I'd be benching over 3ghz if the modded Mach2 was working. 9800xt clocked at 465/385
I'm Far Cry stable for hrs at 243x12=2920.
Why dont you tell us what you clocks were on the card and I've seen FX-53-939 do 2.7 on air. Whats the clocks on a stock XT 520/600. His oc is pretty mild. We all know who's being silly around here.
My goals are much more modest than those of OPP, Jason and a number of other folks here. I'm running a water set-up and probably will stay with water. And my board is NOT modded. I had to do a lot of tweaking and experimenting before I got to where I'm at now. I think this is a decent board. The only thing I wish for is more VDimm because the 3700EB is capable of higher speeds. Just for the record, these are my current settings:
LDT: 600MHz
Memclock ratio: 2:1 DDR400
Timings: 3-2-2-7-7-16
2T: disabled
AGP/PCI: 66.6/33.3
I did experiment with 75/37 for the AGP/PCI buses. Got some good 3D scores, but the system seemed a little squirrely.
Cowpuppy,
Impressive.
Here's an un-modded FX-51 940 with the same videocard you have on stock air at 2530MHz and only 230MHz FSB:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7474729
410MHz on the CPU and a Mach II should be good for more than 379 points, shouldn't it? So much for latency! Hmmmmm.
pkrew,
Somewhat less impressive.:D
sierra_bound,
I have no doubt that you had to do a lot of tweaking. I on the other hand did not. My score was run with stock cats, sliders to the default center and no OS or BIOS tweaks except straight overclocking.
Congrats! You've done good to score that high on a S939 system.
Have any of you guys tried that NEW A8V BETA BIOS??? What? 1006.004??????????
C
You should. Your BIOS is to blame for those funky timings. Who knows what else it was doing. You should try a BIOS other than the one you ran today for sure. Did you run .21 or .20 today?Quote:
Originally posted by charlie
Have any of you guys tried that NEW A8V BETA BIOS??? What? 1006.004??????????
C
charlie, my understanding is that 1006.004 does not have the lock option. :( But xgman has a modded 1006 from Bigtoe. Haven't heard him yet.
Stock clocks for an XT are 519.5/560.Quote:
Originally posted by pkrew
Why dont you tell us what you clocks were on the card and I've seen FX-53-939 do 2.7 on air. Whats the clocks on a stock XT 520/600. His oc is pretty mild. We all know who's being silly around here.
His CPU MHz are higher, his FSB is much higher and his card clocks (especially his memory) are higher than what I can run on air. If his memory isn't watercooled I'd guess he had major arties as well.
Give it up dude.:down:
Don't try the 1006. it dosn't have locks. I had to flash backwords last night.
Ya these timmings sux I'd say I'm loosing about 800pts, My BH-5 just won't run, they need 3.55v. That DFI Lan Party is what we need. A board that we can give some voltage to our hardware.
Raising my 3.3 line gave me some more stability I'm at 3.6 now, but I still can't run over 2.75v to my mem or windows freezes
Cowpuppy, your 3400+ hits almost 27k in 2k1 with a few hundred MHz less than the FX-53. Why did you only get in the high 25's with the S939 FX-53?
Right now 1005.021.... but I'm too tired to f with it....Quote:
Originally posted by StormPC
You should. Your BIOS is to blame for those funky timings. Who knows what else it was doing. You should try a BIOS other than the one you ran today for sure. Did you run .21 or .20 today?
C