ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

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10-09-2006, 04:37 AM
deathman20

Quote:

Originally Posted by icywater

At 400FBS it is still ok, for me. Actually up to 415 FSB warm boot is ok. Why don't you try 420FBS :) and see.

Running 425 currently at 8x.

Also works perfectly fine at
465 at 7x
435 at 8x

Think that covers it for me, both cold and warm boots.

Also using various ram dividers.
10-09-2006, 04:53 AM
icywater

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathman20

Running 425 currently at 8x.

Also works perfectly fine at
465 at 7x
435 at 8x

Think that covers it for me, both cold and warm boots.

Also using various ram dividers.

Are you using 711 bios? if you are then you lucky.:D :D
10-09-2006, 05:08 AM
BuM!!!

Hi! Someone know how to disable one core on P5B Deluxe?
10-09-2006, 05:24 AM
deathman20

Quote:

Originally Posted by icywater

Are you using 711 bios? if you are then you lucky.:D :D

Yup I am, just haven't updated my sig to show it. And im not pumping really much voltage at all into any of the chipsets. NB is 1.45V and FSB term is 1.4V SB is 1.5V and ICH is 1.0575V.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuM!!!

Hi! Someone know how to disable one core on P5B Deluxe?

Only way to sorta do that is in windows and selecting the single ACPI from the hardware window. But everytime you reboot it will probably say something.

Why do you want just one core?
10-09-2006, 05:50 AM
BuM!!!

Trying to get better result on SuperPi. There are a competition on russian overclocking site and rules of this competition limiting CPU freq on 2700mhz.
But, i can bench on 2800 if one core will be disabled.
10-09-2006, 07:23 AM
mdk89135

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Anybody know why Windows reports 3.6Ghz while CPU-Z reports 3.2? I'm expecting 3.2 based on 401 FSB x 8 Multi..
10-09-2006, 07:50 AM
MFM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssabripo

You guys SUCK at debugging!!!:p: :stick: :eek:

all this freaking time I was wondering why my 3Dmark05 scores were a little low compared to the rest of you, and it was because I had THE WRONG slot installed on my X1900XT :brick:

I had it at 4x instead of 16x because I had installed it in the universal PCIe slot, and not the real primary 16x slot...LOL!

check it out now!!! Super stable, good temps, down from 3.38ghz (because temps were a little high for my liking):

:woot:

What did you mean with "I had installed it in the universal PCIe slot, and not the real primary 16x slot.."?

This board have 2 PCIe Slots! 2 x PCI-E x16 (blue @ x16 mode, black @ x2 or x4 mode)!

I have same problem (x1 bus ) and my GX2 installed on blue slot! It was supposed to be x16!:slapass:

Nothing works....Flash from EZFlash, AFUDOS, Asus Update....(new and old bios)! Clear CMOS with and without battery! Change NV drivers! Etc! I'm starting to think this is a BIOS chip problem! :upset:

EDIT:I only have this problem with OC on my CPU! If settings @ default (FSB, mem frequency), the PCIe bus is x16!:eek:

Any idea?
10-09-2006, 08:24 AM
deathman20

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuM!!!

Trying to get better result on SuperPi. There are a competition on russian overclocking site and rules of this competition limiting CPU freq on 2700mhz.
But, i can bench on 2800 if one core will be disabled.

Well if people will be benching at 2.8Ghz it will be like cheating. because of course its going to be faster in SuperPI.

If you want to make it basically be the service running set it to 1 CPU (core 2 if you have it running) and do the priority level to realtime that should get best results.
10-09-2006, 08:26 AM
deathman20

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdk89135

Anybody know why Windows reports 3.6Ghz while CPU-Z reports 3.2? I'm expecting 3.2 based on 401 FSB x 8 Multi..

Thats simple windows isn't taking into account that you are running a 8x multi. It figures in just the 9x multi x the bus speed.

You can see some nice Ghz with 7x or 6x and high FSB :) In alot of programs.
10-09-2006, 08:37 AM
ssabripo

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFM

What did you mean with "I had installed it in the universal PCIe slot, and not the real primary 16x slot.."?

This board have 2 PCIe Slots! 2 x PCI-E x16 (blue @ x16 mode, black @ x2 or x4 mode)!

exactly! I had mine on the x4 slot rather than the blue x16 slot! :p:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFM

I have same problem (x1 bus ) and my GX2 installed on blue slot! It was supposed to be x16!:slapass:

Nothing works....Flash from EZFlash, AFUDOS, Asus Update....(new and old bios)! Clear CMOS with and without battery! Change NV drivers! Etc! I'm starting to think this is a BIOS chip problem! :upset:

EDIT:I only have this problem with OC on my CPU! If settings @ default (FSB, mem frequency), the PCIe bus is x16!:eek:

Any idea?

what are you OCing it to (whats your fsb?)?

have you tried going down to 96 on your PCIe speed instead of the 100 or 101? If not, try it...go down to 96 and keep PCI ratio at 33.3
10-09-2006, 08:50 AM
MFM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssabripo

exactly! I had mine on the x4 slot rather than the blue x16 slot! :p:

what are you OCing it to (whats your fsb?)?

have you tried going down to 96 on your PCIe speed instead of the 100 or 101? If not, try it...go down to 96 and keep PCI ratio at 33.3

I have this problem with FSB > 266!

I tried to fix PCI to 33.3 and PCIe to 100! Same problem!

Then tried to fix PCIe to 110! I saw bus@ x16, but in games i had same problem! Too slow (like slowmotion), and after some reboots, it changes to x1 again! :confused:

I'm going to the store and change this mobo! Then i will see if it happens again, with the new one!:(
10-09-2006, 09:16 AM
ssabripo

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFM

I have this problem with FSB > 266!

I tried to fix PCI to 33.3 and PCIe to 100! Same problem!

Then tried to fix PCIe to 110! I saw bus@ x16, but in games i had same problem! Too slow (like slowmotion), and after some reboots, it changes to x1 again! :confused:

I'm going to the store and change this mobo! Then i will see if it happens again, with the new one!:(

have you tried LOWERING the PCIe? before you got dissambleing things, drop it to 96 or so, and try it again....

several people had this issue and dropping it below 100 (to 96 or so) fix it. :fact:
10-09-2006, 09:19 AM
MFM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssabripo

have you tried LOWERING the PCIe? before you got dissambleing things, drop it to 96 or so, and try it again....

several people had this issue and dropping it below 100 (to 96 or so) fix it. :fact:

Thx....i will try that when arrive @ home! ;)
10-09-2006, 12:35 PM
BuM!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathman20

Well if people will be benching at 2.8Ghz it will be like cheating. because of course its going to be faster in SuperPI.

If you want to make it basically be the service running set it to 1 CPU (core 2 if you have it running) and do the priority level to realtime that should get best results.

I asked-it is not cheating. I made all tweaks that i know and can find. I need to disable 1 core(E6600) to make another core work with all 4mb cache and on 2800Mhz. And i need to disable it by hardware for CPU-Z screens
10-09-2006, 01:24 PM
deathman20

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuM!!!

I asked-it is not cheating. I made all tweaks that i know and can find. I need to disable 1 core(E6600) to make another core work with all 4mb cache and on 2800Mhz. And i need to disable it by hardware for CPU-Z screens

Only way is forcing the Computer ACPI to single. Which will result in a reboot to show it up but I don't know if it will take it. You might need to force the hal.dll file in Dos into windows to do it properly. If you look on the windows CD you there is 2 different compressed hal.xxx files (xxx is the file name forgot what it is in its compressed form).

That should do the trick but it might screw up windows needing windows activation and all that other crap. Just be prepared for a reinstall if it messes up.
10-09-2006, 03:44 PM
TheGoat Eater

I figured my problem out - i needed to backspace out the prior numbers and type them back in! now easily stable at 3.2GHz and mem on 500MHz
10-10-2006, 03:43 AM
Plastok

For those who have the warm boot and pcie issue, don't you have the nb at 1.65v?

I have noticed this issue is coming only if i put 1.65v to the nb.
If i want to restart my system, I must stop my computer and restart it if i want to use it normally. If i restart it via windows, performance of pcie is really low.

With other voltage to the nb, no more issue at warm boot.

And over 400 mhz this board does not need a lot of voltage cause i am running it at 486 x 7, ram 1:1 @ 2.25v (4-4-4-4) with NB at 1.45v, FSB at 1.3v, SB at 1.5v and ICH at 1.057v
10-10-2006, 04:09 AM
icywater

I reduce my PCIE Bus to 96 Mhz and my NB is reduce to 1.55, no more 1x link on warm boot :banana: :banana: :D .
10-10-2006, 04:18 AM
Plastok

Quote:

Originally Posted by icywater

I reduce my PCIE Bus to 96 Mhz and my NB is reduce to 1.55, no more 1x link on warm boot :banana: :banana: :D .

You can try to put back PCIE Bus to 100 Mhz

It is the NB core at 1.65v which is causing the issue...

Hope there will be a bios fix on this soon...
10-10-2006, 07:05 AM
icywater

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plastok

You can try to put back PCIE Bus to 100 Mhz

It is the NB core at 1.65v which is causing the issue...

Hope there will be a bios fix on this soon...

I will put it back later, thanks
10-10-2006, 07:10 AM
heikis

1,55V MCH gives me 1X PCIE when using 400FSB. but 401 is all ok all the time.

can anyone tell me: if Im running orthos in the background and playing CSS and then CSS crashes and ORTHOS hasnt failed- then it isnt or it still could be because of the unstable overclock?
10-10-2006, 07:14 AM
Scope666

Quote:

Originally Posted by heikis

1,55V MCH gives me 1X PCIE when using 400FSB. but 401 is all ok all the time.

can anyone tell me: if Im running orthos in the background and playing CSS and then CSS crashes and ORTHOS hasnt failed- then it isnt or it still could be because of the unstable overclock?

I have the same problem, stable as hell in Orthos and SuperPi, but if I'm over 400, I blue screen in Company of Heroes all the time. It's an ATI x1900 XT as well, maybe there's a pattern...
10-10-2006, 07:58 AM
Devious

I posted a while ago about my P5W DH being Orthos stable at 3.94Ghz but some games (esp oblivion) will crash at anythig over 400FSB, 3.6Ghz.

Some games are just more taxing on the entire system with the graphics & processing than Orthos on its own is.
10-10-2006, 08:53 AM
heikis

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha0ne

I have tried both and found only very minor differences, I use AHCI because its supposed to utilise features such as NCQ on SATA II drives I think but it would be great if anyone more knowledgeable could explain further :)

so if I want to disable the NCQ, then I just have to install my OS under the IDE mode? if so then good to know :banana:
10-10-2006, 09:37 AM
deathman20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devious

I posted a while ago about my P5W DH being Orthos stable at 3.94Ghz but some games (esp oblivion) will crash at anythig over 400FSB, 3.6Ghz.

Some games are just more taxing on the entire system with the graphics & processing than Orthos on its own is.

Intresting. I might have to try this out. Now how long does it take before it crashes or seems to crash when playing games?

So far I've been playing X3, Age of Empires III, GRAW, and a few others on my system and its over 400FSB (sitting at 425FSB currently). I'm at 3.4Ghz w/ 1.45V, and I'm not Orthos stable at this voltage but everything I've thrown at her works fine. My other clock was 3.51Ghz but that was with my 9x multi it also has been stable at everything but orthos.

I'll try out Oblivion been meaning to try it out on the new system for a while to see how well it takes the new system.

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