Phew! I wasnt talking from my ass!:woot:
Gonna pick up a new SATA2 drive with NCQ today myself, I want to see what the difference will be like from my standard SATA drive
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Phew! I wasnt talking from my ass!:woot:
Gonna pick up a new SATA2 drive with NCQ today myself, I want to see what the difference will be like from my standard SATA drive
So Dublin I guess you are going to use the JMicron controller of the GB chip?
Well I wont have a choice if I want to use NCQ etc
Yes that's exactly what I meant to say, I just was curious if you would do it on the JMicron and thus understand what you have to do to get NCQ working.
Yep, its fairly straight forward using the jmicron.
I'll give it a blast anyway. Considering they still havent collected my board for RMA yet (were meant to last monday, grrr). Currently using A64 3000+ system, as I've dismantled my Core 2 Duo system, my new RMA'd ram arrives tomorrow
Silly question, what does flashing the X1800XT gain you? Just wondering.
Thanks,
-Eric
DS3 - E6300 at 3.0 Ghz
Big Typhoon
PQI Cheapo Turbo Ram (set to auto)
X1800XT (currently stock, since BF2 has problems if I OC it)
Unless your machine is a file server or you're doing serious multi-tasking, NCQ will probably lead to worse performance in a lot of areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dublin_Gunner
Basically his card can OC to XTPE speeds. By flashing the cards BIOS the card will default to these clocks when booting, instead of having a 3rd party app boot up and OC it when windows starts. Its just faster and easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by ekessel
Yeah, I don't understand why everyone wants NCQ. Pretty much every Storagereview.com review shows that except for some Maxtor models most drives are slower in single user environments when NCQ is enabled.Quote:
Originally Posted by kurg
@ekessel
Sapphire released a BIOS for the cards [x1800xt 512] with the later revision pcb's and 6 phase power regulation circuit.
Basically, it changed the card to 700/1600 for 3d mode, as opposed to 625/1500. It also increases the voltage to the core to stabilise the higher clock, something that might not have been too stable on the older rev boards.
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I decided to go with a perpendicular recording drive instead of the one with ncq
which mem slots to use ? the red or the yellow ?? sorry if its been answered
also how can i tell what rev i have ??
last question .. since i might be sending my 6400 back .. should i just use the stock cooler with the thermal pad on it ? lol
who you directing that question at??
If by 'do you use' you mean 'should i use' I assume you're talking about the rig in your sig?? head on over to dfi-street.com, it depends really on what IC's your ram is using usually.
And use whatever cooler you like, preferably NOT the stock one because
1. Its crap
2. Better to send it back intact, not with the paste after being used
3. they will in no way be able to tell what cooler you used, or even if you used the chip at all if you clean it up properly
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dublin_Gunner
no no .. i just got a ds3 .. corsair 1066 ram and an e6400 .. all the stuff has a 30 day return policy
FYI, quick 'read test' between SATA and SATA2 drives in my machine. Note, CPU working 100% (dual folding instances, amongst other things) so don't look too closely at the actual result, just the difference between the two:
[edit: better example]
AHCI enabled ICH8R (SATA2) in Gigabyte DQ6
Red - Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 200GB SATA/150MB/s max
Blue - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB SATA2/300MB/s max (Contains OS partition too)
The SATA2 drive is over 100% faster according to this test (note, this was not performed in any accurate test environment or following guidelines, just an example of the difference in speed between the two drives/standards on my DQ6):
http://www.gam.net.au/forumimages/SATA-vs-SATA2.gif
Drive #0 is the SATA2 drive.
http://www.gam.net.au/forumimages/ST...0%25%20cpu.png
only using the stock cooler to test it out .. if i like it .. ill get a better oneQuote:
Originally Posted by jetjaguar
DAM can you please dumb down your screenshots as to what exactly do they show.
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Stalk3r
were talking about the rives theoretical performance.
I think the graph is quot straight forward. Blue is the sata2 drive, red is the sata drive. Just compare the 2.
what exactly are the differences between the DS3 and the S3?
For comparison, here is my 320Gb Seagate 7200.10 on a ICH8 controller in native mode:Quote:
Originally Posted by GAM
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3996/hdtachji2.jpg
There doesn't appear to be much difference between ICH8R with AHCI and ICH8 without.
Difference between DS and S is the D (duh:banana: ) where the D stands for Durability. This means that the Capacitors are Solid in the D series where they are Electrolytic in the normal series (it's a bit like the difference between Li-on and NiCam Batteries). So bottom line, you're board should last longer with the D series.
Well all's not quite well in Jmicron RAID land. It will create from an existing drive...every time I boot into windows. :D Oh well, back to Acronis True Image every couple weeks.
also there's a different integrated nic on the S3.
edit: i helped a buddy of mine from Australia get his S3 + 6300 to 3.185ghz, so the S3 is a VERY capable board.
Thanks Fred, I didn't think AHCI was necessary for SATA2 speeds, just NCQ and Hot Swap (and anything else SATA2 supports other than speed, I guess).Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred_Pohl
Just doing my civic duty. I'd hate to see DS3 owners trusting their data to the JMicron controller thinking that there might be some advantage over using the ICH8.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAM
Yeah, I don't use the JMicron (aka Gigabyte SATA controller) either. All yellow ICH8R headers (4 in use).