Not exactly, but very close. Similar functionality and design. Its a general window paint scrapper.Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
Ace has got it. Go for it. Great deal.
cjoe
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Not exactly, but very close. Similar functionality and design. Its a general window paint scrapper.Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
Ace has got it. Go for it. Great deal.
cjoe
You can also use one of the blades from a shaving razor. For me thats was the easiest. The blade is so sharp and thin that you barely have to push to cut the black stuff.
Just picked up my new 170 0550 UPMW. Can't wait to see what this will do.
Good Luck m8. Hope it does as good as mine. :toast: :banana: :woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by twisted5
anymore results??Quote:
Originally Posted by macg
Silicon sealant :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by yasoumalaka
Is the black stuff that sticks the IHS onto the package :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by LiQU!D
Just to let you guys know i'll be selling my CCB1E 0550 VPMW soon,ill be going the Conroe route as soon as i can.
I'd like to sell it to UKers who are from here preferably (those who know what they are doing anyhoo's ).
The lids popped,but i still got it,and i can send the original packaging and heatpipe heatsink too. :D
It's a 2.9er at very hot temps,ill post some 3gigs+ shots at the weekend.
...and sorry about the hijack. :)
My 0550UPMW is stable at 2.5ghz, 1.275 volts but Core1 fails Prime in ½ an hour at 1.45 :(
Currently burning it just in case.
lol packageQuote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
Ahem, yes I believe it is, if by package you mean CPU PCB. :stick:
It is called a 'package'.
New stepping ahoy! :cool:
http://www.sourcekills.com/albums/ts...0849.sized.jpg
Just got it an hour ago and had to charge the cam for pics before I toss it in. Have to leave shortly to run an errand for a family member, then I'm back to see what this thing does. Interesting stepping to say the least.
heh, that really looks like a winner...can't explain why, but it does.:p:
Good luck:)... and yeah,dont know why,but ive got the same feeling as Clint.:D
CCB1E looks good and MPMW too.
Very new week 0608.
Not seen in Germany before.
2700-2800Mhz have to go.
I want results baby!
Quote:
Originally Posted by tsuehpsyde
Anxiously awaiting results! :)
Haha, soon enough boys, soon enough. :toast:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=82260
I've had it in my rig for about 3 hours testing, but I've been running around helping family members out, then I got swindled into dinner (almost twice, grand parents offered to take me out) so I havn't really been available to test. No worries though, I'm testing it right now and will report back when I have something worth biting into. Plus, since this is on water, I'm a bit iffy about the mount, but it seems to be doing fine.
At first, I was concerned, but now it's surprising me so...yeah, I'll fill you in when I know for sure what's up. God, I'm such a tease. :D
Edit: Okay, I felt bad, so here's something to think about: 1.4v dual prime stable 2.7GHz 42C load is where I'm at atm, still got alot of testing to do. ;)
New CCB1E's :thumbup: Haven't seen any except in 0550's
42C on water though with 1.4v! hotter than 0550vpmw
I'm partially blaming the mount, until I see otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
Also, 2786MHz, still dual priming 1.4v, and still on the rise...42C load still. Also, it's warm out today, so my ambient is like 65F, compared to like 50-55F that I usually have for my loop.
Well remount then! Your results are awesome so far :) Looks like that may be the new "golden" stepping
Maybe, 2.8 @ 1.4v is the bottom of golden. 2.9+ @ 1.4v is golden.
I think you are spoiled by 0550 cpu's.. most single cores can't even do 2.9+ with 1.4v
Well, what's odd is, here's what happened.
I plug in mister 0608, and boot up with stock voltage (auto's to 1.35v). Let Windows notice both cores, and reboot. Open up clockgen and 2 Prime 95 instances, and start at it. Dual loads at 38C-39C, which is warm, but again I'm used to a lidless single core. Anywho, I take fairly stiff jumps in clockspeed, as I'm used to this system doing it without problem...1.8, 1.9, 2, 2.1, 2.2 all priming fine. So, I go a little slower now...2.25, 2.3, 2.35GHz...now I'm like yeah, this thing is chuggin' along nicely. I set 2.4, BSOD. :slapass: I almost cried, figuring I have a complete dud. :( I reboot and set 1.4v, and got up to 2560MHz before I had to leave to run some errands. I got home and like it was dual priming for like an hour and a half, and it diddn't error. So I've been continually adding speed, and it's just really surprising the crap outta me now, considering how it stumbled on itself at first. I'm wondering if it was just a fluke, like jumping 50MHz just upset it somehow.
Either way, I'm at 2.84GHz dual-priming for about 10 minutes, no errors. :cool: This chip is definately a contender, that's for sure. Hot as hell for $280 shipped 2-day! :toast:
Edit: Core 0 dies @ 2860MHz, second one still going...Memory is breaking past DDR400 though, so time to drop memory and see if that's it, or if it needs more voltage, or if temps are just too warm for it due to a bad mount. I'll keep everyone posted.
There has to be distinction between golden and excellent. You cant just label everything golden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
He said "may be golden" as in, I was still testing. No need to jump and defend your 0550 CompGeek. :slapass: We're all on the same team here. ;)
And for reference, my 144 does 2.9GHz on 1.35v, so I'd definately call that "golden". I'd just call this an excellent chip so far. It appears the max I can do is 2847MHz dual-prime stable with 1.4v(20 mins and counting as I write this). Any higher and core 0 dies. However, core 1 was priming just fine at 2860MHz....stupid weaker core. :)
On to test 1.45v and see what we come up with....and I still have to check the stupid mount (I hate mounting, so that's why I'm putting that off until I get initial results).
Indeed :slapass:
Crazy that .05v gives you an additional 450MHz, I'd say the BSOD at 2.4 was definetly RAM related.
Nah, it was on the 133MHz dvidier, and diddn't hit stock speeds until 2.8GHz. Now it's set to the 100MHz divider (I could add vDIMM, but I don't feel like overclocking two parts at once).Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
I re-mounted it, and I think temps went up. :( I also just closed my window, so that might have something to do with it, plus the fact that my previous mount was burnt in for 6 hours today, while this is freshly applied and I used more than last time. Here are the shots of the previous mount:
http://www.sourcekills.com/albums/ts...0861.sized.jpg
http://www.sourcekills.com/albums/ts...0863.sized.jpg
If temps don't go back down by tomorrow, I'll pull it off and use about the same I did the first time. I figured more IHS coverage = better, seeing as how the core is bigger on these (and yes, I use the dot + squish method). For some reason though, this thing is running HOT...I only have a single 120mm dual pass rad, but the 165 is the only thing in the loop, and the rad doesn't feel like it's overloaded. I'll be fiddling with this thing for awhile yet, but I think temps are keeping me from 2.9+ stable. We'll see.
Dude, spread a layer on the CPU, dont do the dot, much less effective.
Im not defending anything, I wouldnt call my chip golden if it didnt hit 2.9 @ 1.4. Anything less just isnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsuehpsyde
The dot has always worked fine for me on CPU's with IHS, but naked cores need spread method
My freind wanted to do the dot as well, so we did (X2 4400+) and he wasnt quite pleased with his temps, so I spread it on for him and there was an immediate 2C drop.
SPREAD IT
Spread it with a razor blade, so it was beautifully thin...temps? Same. :p: I swear, it has to have been just burned in over the 5 hours it was priming today, the main 3 or so while I wasn't here. Either that, or I just had a magical spread I'll never get again. I also think the IHS has a lip around the outside, and isn't as flat as it could be @ the core's section, so I may try to lap the IHS if I can't get temps to cooperate. But in order to get the most out of this, I'm going to have to lap the IHS, or pop it off entirely. But for now, I'll play with 1.5v just for kicks, and probably set 2.8GHz 1.4v as my temporary stable setting until I get temps where they need to be.
I've done both and the dot works fine. Spreading over the whole IHS is unnecessary because the only heat is generated by the core and the core only contacts with the center of the IHS. Dot works just fine for me and has always given me good temps.
how bout this...just get some as5 on there...
That's what I'm using. :slap: I have the big ass $18 tube of it, so that's why I don't mind re-mounting as much as needed as many different ways as I can think of, so long as I get a good end result. It's just a pain in the ass is all. Going to leave this spread overnight and see what we end up with in the morning. :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinch
Edit: Plus, let's not forget this IHS contact is iffy at best, compared to your 2.9GHz with 1.4v without a cap. On my 144, when I pulled the cap, I gained over 150MHz on my voltage/settings, and had more headroom than before on any voltage. If I can get 2840MHz with crappy IHS contact (on both sides :rolleyes: ) then I think I'll be "cherry" once the lid comes off, or is lapped. We'll see.
I cant wait to see :D
better idea...pop that lid and spread as5 and let the good times roll...
tsuehpsyde, where and when'd you buy that chip? If this happens to be the new "it" stepping, I will be willing to wait for it (even though I was planning on buying a x2 tommorow). I hope that high temp isn't characteristic of that stepping. Thanks, and come back with updates quick!
Opteron 170 CCB1E 0609EPAW , what do you guys think about that ? I'l try to reassamble my WC and get maybe some AS5 , it is very possible a 3GHz 24/7 prime stable chip ;) Primes at 3GHz @ 1.45V for about 10 min then one core fails , i think it's temp related cause it gets over +52-54 C , i'l have to improve my WC soon ... :slapass:
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1192/s2vx.gif
I got it from Monarch. I ordered it last Wednesday, they shipped it out Thursday, arrived today.Quote:
Originally Posted by manomanx2
Gorod- Where did you get the 170 CCB1E 0609EPAW?
:drooling:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorod
[QUOTE=Gorod]Opteron 170 CCB1E 0609EPAW , what do you guys think about that ? I'l try to reassamble my WC and get maybe some AS5 , it is very possible a 3GHz 24/7 prime stable chip ;) Primes at 3GHz @ 1.45V for about 10 min then one core fails , i think it's temp related cause it gets over +52-54 C , i'l have to improve my WC soon ... :slapass:
Nice Chip...:woot: :toast:
even with the IHS on spread the paste if possible, next time when your cpu underload try touching the edge or the side of the IHS with your finger and see what happen :lol: :D the IHS is a solid copper plate so the heat does spread through out the entire area, the heat doesn't just get stuck in the center :D if you feel all it needs is a dot in the center....I guess whatever work for you :D
I have a temp probe fitted to the edge of my IHS stuck on with AS5 epoxy and it has never got above 41C @ 2.9GHz, 1.58Vcore in bios when the ambiant was 38C :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
See sig for details :)
I'm having big problems with temp on my 0550VPMW, idle in windows my temp is 40C, I've got crappy WC (TT BW), and the fan on the radiator is at full speed!
Load temp during prime is about 51-52C.. But Core0 fails when the temp exceeds 46C!
Do you guys think it will help if I get an extra radiator ( I am thinking of a dual radiator) ?
Really need some advice from you guys, I don't want her topless just yet..
I think my chip is a golden one, as I have no problem doing things in windows at 3.05GHz as long as temp doesnt exceed 46C. How much would an extra radiator influence my CPU temp?
Edit: I have remounted the CPU block several times, since I thought it maybe was a bad mount, because of the high temps..
An extra radiator could help only if your CPU cooler extracts enough heat from the processor. If not, you have nothing to dissipate, and your problems come from a poor CPU cooler (Usually one 120mm cooler is enough if you only watercool the CPU). Investing in a good WC system may be a good idea since your chip has potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by furyfax
By the way, where did you find it ? databutikken?
That TT won't do anything for ya even with a 2nd radiator. The pump is simply too weak and the tubing too small. I know, I had one before I got real water cooling :P (and with a 2nd radiator as well)
0550 UPMW Currently Priming at 2900 1.54V Question though...Every time I start SP2004 on both cores whichever one I started first fails within 15 seconds but if I click on resume it will keep running without error. This happened at stock speed as well. Anyone ever seen this before? Also what is max safe voltage on an opty? My temps are only around 42C load atm.
yup dot works fine too.. Artic Silver folks have tested all methods and the dot is the best according to themQuote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
And on naked core? I spread the TIM because I didn't know how much to put, it's a rice grain WITH IHS, but without? I got 4-6c, but it seems like few temp drop in my 165 after removing the top :confused:
You're supposed to spread the TIM on an open core, silly man. :p: You surely can't dot that little guy! :nono: Although, with ASC you can use a bead down the center which spreads.Quote:
Originally Posted by mursaat
Damn, the majority of the good chips don't make it to Australia.
For what it's worth, I decided to give auto voltage (1.35v) a shot again, and it seems to be doing very well. :cool: I'm testing 2.7GHz 1.35v right now, dual priming for about 20 minutes so far, loading @ 39C. :fact: Going to see how high stock vcore will take this thing, dual prime stable for at least 8 hours.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tsuehpsyde
Gaaah gimme :) just orderd a 165 2 sec ago , after reading this thread for 2-3 weeks i couldnt be without one :) so hoping for a good stepping now.
will post results in 2-3 days :D
A table with all the OC's seems really needed here.
I mean, sifting away the gold from the dross in 3500 posts is a hefty challenge.
(will get my 165 later this week and I'll show y'all how it's done :D)
Hey pcdoc1 sorry for long reply timeQuote:
Originally Posted by pcdoc1
It's from monarchcomputer ;) They still have those 0609's there today , just got one more from them this morning to play with :D Will report back when after i test second one :toast: Testing on DFI SLI-DR right now , could be even better with Xpert ... The first one keeps amazing me more and more , it is DUAL PRIME STABLE 3.0GHz @ 1.50V on crapy water with > +53 C Loaded temps muahaha :eek: :woot: :fact:
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/745...4mlffts1es.gif
Still on the rise, dual priming @ 2765MHz. :D If this thing gets to 2.8GHz, it verifies that heat due to a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty IHS is the problem. Can I call it golden if I get 2.8GHz stock vcore IHS still intact with no lapping? :cool:
Ok , sorry guys made a typo yesterday it's not EPAW - it's realy FPAW :)
Opteron 170 CCB1E 0609FPAW , both of them .
First one , the one on the screenshot is the strongest it seems ... Second one that i bought today it's very good too , defenatly a +2.80-2.85GHz chip :)
The one on the left is the first one , and right one is the second :
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5608/0129qc.th.jpg http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8157/0143hw.th.jpg
I like 06 chips :p:
I would most definately say so :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tsuehpsyde
I would like to see a really low voltage test, with something like 2.2GHz or so...I'm thinking of upgrading my small server/HTPC box to a dual and this might just fit perfect.
This stepping might just do it on 1volt or so.
I missed your previous post, but Holy PWMIC temps, batman! :eek: Get some cooling on there! You'll probably find higher stable clocks if you can get that PWMIC under control. ;) And prime died just short of 2.8GHz. :( Finding an 8-hour prime stable at least setting, testing 2765MHz atm.
I don't know what's wrong with my PWMIC temps :( , it gets that hot only if i use Vcore higher then 1.45V , i have a fan blowing on that area also :confused: , my PSU OCZ PowerStream 600W gets hot too , may be it's too much load (2x7900GTX , Dual Core .... ) , will try on DFI Xpert and see if it's mobo related or noQuote:
Originally Posted by tsuehpsyde
Gorod, you bought from Monarch physically cuz you live there, but for us non Georgians, did you buy OEM or Retail?
Oh i see what you are saying , they may ship from another location if u order online , i don't know but thats possible ... It's difficult to tell what stepping it will be . Both of them Retail package . Second chip (#293) seems prime stable 2.8GHz @ 1.4V so far :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
I got the CCB1E 0608 MPMW last week also. I was too busy with the 7900GT volt mod to do much. But these chips are defintely promising. As soon as I saw one guy say he got a CCB1E from Monarch I rolled the dice. It just felt right.
I only started it up and fooled around. For kicks I set it straight to 3000 with 1.4v and it went to windows. Still haven't even tried for stabilty so who knows. Only screenshots I have is when I was trying to figure out how much lower the mem divider was going to hurt, so I have those screen shots so I didn't have to write down the numbers. Stabilty will most likely be lower then this, but on my last 165 I couldn't get 2900 to not instantly BSOD at any voltage, so this is definetly a nicer chip. When I get the max stable I'll post real numbers. I just thought I should post and say these are looking to be nice!
http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/165.jpg
I noticed Core Center is still a piece of crap: "76 MHz x 39.0"
Is it just me or has every B1 chip you've seen been awesome
Sure is, but MSi stuff in general is blah. :p: This is x64, the x86 Core Center doesn't do it. Only app that I can reliably change mem voltage in windows. Also measures temps so I don't have to have speed fan open also. It's almost embarassing to have Core Center open in a screenshot. LOL.Quote:
I noticed Core Center is still a piece of crap: "76 MHz x 39.0"
AIC, you're switching from an Opteron 144 CABNE 0530 to an Opteron 165 0608 MPMW? Man, we're entirely too much alike. :) Your temps seem better than mine, but how did you get a 39x multiplier!?!?!?! ;)
tsuehpsyde, did you get your 165 from Monarch?
I'm looking to get a 170 from either Newegg or Monarch. Anyone have an estimate of the new steppings and which of the two companies I should purchase from? OEM or Retail? Thanks.
Looks like those two new CCB1E steppings came from monarch? Am I right?
If from Monarch, are they OEM or Retail?Quote:
Originally Posted by Repoman
Both of my Opterons from Monarch are Retail ;)
Every time I've bought cpus without knowing what the stepping is, I've gotten burned. Monarch and Newegg, 4 times in a row. We'll see how the multicore game plays out over the next couple years so maybe I'll try my luck with Intel.
Yep you look like a sharp guy too. :cool: I really hate to see the Opteron 144 CABNE 0530 go. That is one of the very first chips to start the craze. Still clocks better then alot of the 144's since.Quote:
AIC, you're switching from an Opteron 144 CABNE 0530 to an Opteron 165 0608 MPMW? Man, we're entirely too much alike. Your temps seem better than mine, but how did you get a 39x multiplier!?!?!?!
My temps are 3gig in the screenshot aren't loaded temps. loaded is 39C with Aquaextreme MP-05 SP LE block, MD-20 pump, and heatercore. IHS is already gone, I popped it after I was able to work in windows at 3gig I knew it was a keeper. I also lapped the core a bit, but not long enough to get it where I wanted usually I spend 3 hours but only an hour on this one, but then I got caught up working on the 7900gt volt mod. I was going to do Mikes method for lapping, but don't know where to get the chemicals.
39x, ha, you should see when core center pumps our some stupid 9000mhz when I make transitions in crystalcpuid
I say start popping the lids on these mofo's and see what they really can do! :toast:
just bought this sucker from ebay
seller is dave_graham from flickerdown.com/forums
0546xpmw opteron 170 baby! .
i'm hoping i can hit around 2.8 at 1.4v and 2.95 stable at 1.5v
Most if not all 0546xpmw on WC/good air will do 2.8GHz 100% torture stable @ 1.48 ~ 1.52VcoreQuote:
Originally Posted by noktekniq
To get 2.8 fully stable with only 1.4Vcore would be exceptional, good luck :)
broke my hopes 1:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
But most (mine included) will do 2.6GHz every torture stable x2 @ default Vcore (1.35V) :banana: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by noktekniq
I run mine 24/7 @ 2.8GHz with 1.49Vcore shown in bios (eXpert) and 1.472V shown in CPU-Z
Came back to the computer today to find that core 1 failed after 7hrs 34mins and core 0 was still going strong at 13hrs+ Is this a sign of a weak core or am I just past my limits? I am going to run cpu burn-in overnight on core 1 to see if that helps. Currently I am at 295x10 1.57v
Wait to receive the chip ;) and please post results because I'm thinking in getting another (cooler) chip from dave for this summer :D Anyone tried with a 165 CCBWE 0551 WPMW? he has 3 in stock.
0551 WPMW is like the rest of the 0551s: very "meh"
Anyone want a 0550 VPMW 170?
I'm on phase no use for me.
How is it doing on air?Quote:
Originally Posted by rapty
Batch # (last 4 digits on last line)
Quote:
Originally Posted by rapty
If its doin well for him (2.95+ @ 1.4v) I got dibs, it mine. I sent him a PM. Im holding a good phase chip here and could swap if his does better on air/water than this one.
Find out anyway - trust me ;)
168, 523 = GOOD
574 was DUD (so far)
Quote:
Originally Posted by CompGeek
Why thank you. :D And I love mine as well, hate to see it go, as mine is the actual Opteron that started the entire "OpterOWN" fad. Got it off baron from the [H]. Such a little piece of history, but man, I have to pay off my new toy.Quote:
Originally Posted by aicjofs
As for where I got my 165, I got it from Monarch OEM with the $60 coupon from [H]ardForums. I had prime running overnight @ 2.75GHz stock voltage, so I'll post a screenshot once I wake up and go check (on my laptop atm) to make sure it's still goin.
I definitly will, thx mikee :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mad mikee
Im goin to see if tankguys.com has any winners in the 165 dept. What stepping should i ask them for?
CCB1E 06XX XXXXQuote:
Originally Posted by Delirious
CCB1E 0550 VPMW
Would like to hit 3 ghz stable for daily use, is it possible with these?Quote:
Originally Posted by CompGeek
Yes, it is POSSIBLE, but even with these 1337est steppings it isnt extremely common... do you have water?Quote:
Originally Posted by Delirious
Yup got the water in my sig
Quote:
Originally Posted by CompGeek
I think the 0609's are slightly better than the 0608's, but my 0608 might just be held back by crappy IHS contact, since I havn't done anything with it yet. I mean on stock vcore @ 2.75GHz I'm loading anywhere from 40-42C, depending on ambient. Entirely too high for water.
Also, @ 2750MHz 1.35v, one of the cores died @ 7 hours 37 minutes. :( The other core was goin' fine @ 16 hours, so that's kind of irritating...I'm blaming heat. Re-Priming @ 2745MHz stock vcore, will post up the max stock vcore once I get a screenshot of dual prime. :)
I have a decent phase chip (WR in sig) with 11x multiplier, but I'm wanting a 24/7 system and phase is too loud/power hungry.
My old venice did 3GHz @ 1.65v stable on my water loop and I'm looking for something similar from a dual core (on water as well).
Wonder if anyone's willing to trade?
I hurt my fingers lots and lapped the venice IHS (to put on the opty) tonight. I will reattach it with the same black silicon that AMD use tomorrow.
Here's a pic:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96...perIHS004s.jpg