**Official DFI LanParty UT 790FX-M2R Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

very nice raid numbers indeed..

@Campbell, non native english speaking me thought your cat already died. ;)

@aGeom: Impressive raid results indeed, what raid drivers version do you use?
And thx for the boot ref note, with CB Tracers i managed to boot at 280MHz but I had to reduce the HT and NB multi to 7-8 but I can run mem at 1066 like speed with 4-4-4-12 timings now.

Cam, man, good luck with your cat there :)

aGeoM, beware, those temps are actually in the 45's idling :yepp:

But tell me.. where the heck did you get that wallpaper from, I've been after it for eons :confused:

Mind passing it over here for my Phenom system too please :D

Also with 4-4-3, what bw are you getting?

No actually Marshall has improve dramatically since 2 days ago:) I took him to the Emergency Animal Hospital after the Vet had him on IV and they have continued the treatment over night and he is Eating like a champ and has perked right up when I called last night at 11:00PM ;) I have to pick him up in about 2hrs and take him to the Vet again for updated check up but the Vet said in addition to me that Marshall has made a big improvement :up:

thats good news indeed..

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Originally Posted by Brother Esau

No actually Marshall has improve dramatically since 2 days ago:) I took him to the Emergency Animal Hospital after the Vet had him on IV and they have continued the treatment over night and he is Eating like a champ and has perked right up when I called last night at 11:00PM ;) I have to pick him up in about 2hrs and take him to the Vet again for updated check up but the Vet said in addition to me that Marshall has made a big improvement :up:

Good to hear it Campbell, gotta work today but I will be on tonight. :up: I may even call you.:shocked:

Here are some modest bios settings first

CPU 2.4GHZ
NB 1.8 GHz
HT 1.8 GHz
MEM 533 MHz 4-5-5-16

SB and NB voltages might be too low for your 3870 X2 crossfire setup, not sure about your memory also. 5-5-5-16 at 2.12V are save i guess.

Code:

Genie Bios Settings =================== Timing Mode Manual Memory Clock value or Limit DDR 1066 PCIE 3,4 State Auto PCIE 2 State x2 AMD K8 Cool&Quiet control Disabled CPU CLock Ratio 12x Spread Spectrum Disabled CPU Host/HTT Clock 200MHz CPU Host/HTT Boot Up Clock 200MHz CPU Host/HTT Adjust Gap 5MHz PCIE Clock 100MHz DRAM Configuration ------------------ DCTs Mode Unganged MCT Memory Timings MCT Memory Timing Manual 2T Mode Auto (Enabled) CAS Latency Time 4 CLK Precharge delay (tRAS) 16 CKL DRAM RAS# Precharge 5 CLK DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 5 CLK Bank to Bank Cmd (TRRD) Auto (4 CLK) TRC 24T TRTP Auto (2 CLK) Wrtite Recovery (TWR) Auto (8 CLK) Write-Read Command (TWTR) Auto (7 CLK) TRFC0 75.0ns TRFC1 75.0ns TRFC2 75.0ns TRFC3 75.0ns Trdrd Auto (2 CLK) TrwtTO Auto (6 CLK) Twrrd Auto (0 CLK) Twrwr Auto (1 CLK) CS/ODT Pin Fine Delay Enabled TLB Cache Mode Enabled Bank Swizzle Mode Enabled Auto Tweak Performance Disabled Optimal Performance Mode Disabled ODC Controll Mode DRAM Drivers Weak Mode Normal drive Output Driver Comp. Auto HT Link Control --------------- HT Link Width 16 bit HT Link Frequency 1.8 GHz IH Flow-COntrol Mode Disabled HT Link Tristate Disabled 2x LCLK Mode Disabled UnitID Clumping Disabled CPU-Feature ----------- CPU-NB DID 1 CPU-NB FID 05 AMD CPU Stepping P0 PWM-Setting ----------- PWM Control Enabled CPU VID COntrol 1.25000V CPU VID Specil Add Auto CPU NB Vlotage Control 1.10000V CPU NB VID Special Add Auto DRAM Voltage Control 2.31V SB PLL 1.2V Voltage 1.2V NB Core Voltage 1.120V NB PCIE Voltage 1.120V NB HT Voltage 1.040V

Now with a higher ref HT (225MHz)

CPU 2.475GHZ
NB 2.025 GHz
HT 2.025 GHz
MEM 600 MHz 5-5-5-16

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Genie Bios Settings =================== Timing Mode Manual Memory Clock value or Limit DDR 1066 PCIE 3,4 State Auto PCIE 2 State x2 AMD K8 Cool&Quiet control Disabled CPU CLock Ratio 11x Spread Spectrum Disabled CPU Host/HTT Clock 225MHz CPU Host/HTT Boot Up Clock 225MHz CPU Host/HTT Adjust Gap 5MHz PCIE Clock 100MHz DRAM Configuration ------------------ MCT Memory Timings MCT Memory Timing Manual 2T Mode Auto (Enabled) CAS Latency Time 5 CLK Precharge delay (tRAS) 16 CKL DRAM RAS# Precharge 5 CLK DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 5 CLK Bank to Bank Cmd (TRRD) Auto (4 CLK) TRC 24T TRTP Auto (2 CLK) Wrtite Recovery (TWR) Auto (8 CLK) Write-Read Command (TWTR) Auto (7 CLK) TRFC0 75.0ns TRFC1 75.0ns TRFC2 75.0ns TRFC3 75.0ns Trdrd Auto (2 CLK) TrwtTO Auto (6 CLK) Twrrd Auto (0 CLK) Twrwr Auto (1 CLK) CS/ODT Pin Fine Delay Enabled TLB Cache Mode Enabled Bank Swizzle Mode Enabled Auto Tweak Performance Disabled Optimal Performance Mode Disabled ODC Controll Mode DRAM Drivers Weak Mode Normal drive Output Driver Comp. Auto DCTs Mode Unganged HT Link Control --------------- HT Link Width 16 bit HT Link Frequency 1.8 GHz IH Flow-COntrol Mode Disabled HT Link Tristate Disabled 2x LCLK Mode Disabled UnitID Clumping Disabled CPU-Feature ----------- CPU-NB DID 1 CPU-NB FID 05 AMD CPU Stepping P0 PWM-Setting ----------- PWM Control Enabled CPU VID COntrol 1.30000V CPU VID Specil Add Auto CPU NB Vlotage Control 1.30000V CPU NB VID Special Add Auto DRAM Voltage Control 2.31V SB PLL 1.2V Voltage 1.2V NB Core Voltage 1.200V NB PCIE Voltage 1.200V NB HT Voltage 1.270V

Somewhat highest stable ref HT here atm (280MHz)

CPU 2.520GHZ
NB 1.960 GHz
HT 1.960 GHz
MEM 560 MHz 4-4-4-12

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Genie Bios Settings =================== Timing Mode Manual Memory Clock value or Limit DDR 800 PCIE 3,4 State Auto PCIE 2 State x2 AMD K8 Cool&Quiet control Disabled CPU CLock Ratio 9x Spread Spectrum Disabled CPU Host/HTT Clock 280MHz CPU Host/HTT Boot Up Clock 280MHz CPU Host/HTT Adjust Gap 5MHz PCIE Clock 100MHz DRAM Configuration ------------------ MCT Memory Timings MCT Memory Timing Manual 2T Mode Auto (Enabled) CAS Latency Time 4 CLK Precharge delay (tRAS) 12 CKL DRAM RAS# Precharge 4 CLK DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 4 CLK Bank to Bank Cmd (TRRD) Auto (3 CLK) TRC 24T TRTP Auto (3 CLK) Wrtite Recovery (TWR) Auto (6 CLK) Write-Read Command (TWTR) Auto (3 CLK) TRFC0 75.0ns TRFC1 75.0ns TRFC2 75.0ns TRFC3 75.0ns Trdrd Auto (2 CLK) TrwtTO Auto (6 CLK) Twrrd Auto (0 CLK) Twrwr Auto (1 CLK) CS/ODT Pin Fine Delay Enabled TLB Cache Mode Enabled Bank Swizzle Mode Enabled Auto Tweak Performance Disabled Optimal Performance Mode Disabled ODC Controll Mode DRAM Drivers Weak Mode Normal drive Output Driver Comp. Auto DCTs Mode Unganged HT Link Control --------------- HT Link Width 16 bit HT Link Frequency 1.4 GHz IH Flow-COntrol Mode Disabled HT Link Tristate Disabled 2x LCLK Mode Disabled UnitID Clumping Disabled CPU-Feature ----------- CPU-NB DID 1 CPU-NB FID 03 AMD CPU Stepping P0 PWM-Setting ----------- PWM Control Enabled CPU VID COntrol 1.30000V CPU VID Specil Add Auto CPU NB Vlotage Control 1.30000V CPU NB VID Special Add Auto DRAM Voltage Control 2.31V SB PLL 1.2V Voltage 1.2V NB Core Voltage 1.200V NB PCIE Voltage 1.200V NB HT Voltage 1.270V

hi guys,

during RAID setup i selected raid 0 and 128kb size is that good or should i selected the 64kb size. my pref. is on par but i thought it would be better

what program should i use to read out the temperature. guardian says in 15-20 celcius idle and load 30-35?

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Originally Posted by Koekerwauz_NL

hi guys,

during RAID setup i selected raid 0 and 128kb size is that good or should i selected the 64kb size. my pref. is on par but i thought it would be better

You should select the 8KB or 16KB size if you are going to install OS to that RAID volume.

hummm, i can only select 64 or 128KB.
What do you suggest? 64 or 128Kb

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Originally Posted by Koekerwauz_NL

hummm, i can only select 64 or 128KB.
What do you suggest? 64 or 128Kb

Strange. Then select 64KB.

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Originally Posted by justapost

@Campbell, non native english speaking me thought your cat already died. ;)

@aGeom: Impressive raid results indeed, what raid drivers version do you use?
And thx for the boot ref note, with CB Tracers i managed to boot at 280MHz but I had to reduce the HT and NB multi to 7-8 but I can run mem at 1066 like speed with 4-4-4-12 timings now.

Cat 8.3 drivers. I can't have HT<>NB multis, C1 error.:shrug:

I just finish to install Vista x64 SP1 @2750 speed, only one freeze on the 1st reboot, but voltages are lower than what I had before, I'll try to post some BIOS photos later.

CB Tracers are these ones?

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Originally Posted by aGeoM

Cat 8.3 drivers. I can't have HT<>NB multis, C1 error.:shrug:

Can be 64bit os makes a difference, i use the 8.4 beta hotfix release.
Hmm with an 9500 all those should work HT<=NB (NB FID+4)<=9

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Originally Posted by aGeoM

CB Tracers are this ones?

I have those
These are the same without led's i think. LED's can be usefull to detect weather the ram started or not during startup but they make a 17€ difference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTE

Cam, man, good luck with your cat there :)

aGeoM, beware, those temps are actually in the 45's idling :yepp:

But tell me.. where the heck did you get that wallpaper from, I've been after it for eons :confused:

Mind passing it over here for my Phenom system too please :D

Also with 4-4-3, what bw are you getting?

Not quite idling, that post was just after finnish 3h gaming.

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/2821/tempgu4.th.jpg

I took from a earlier SPIDER Plataform review some time ago.
22 inch
24 inch
30 inch

You mean this (taken with no drivers at all, Vista SP1 x64)?
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2471/cachememjt1.jpg

nice temps, little too low even..

Quote:

Originally Posted by aGeoM

Cat 8.3 drivers. I can't have HT<>NB multis, C1 error.:shrug:

I just finish to install Vista x64 SP1 @2750 speed, only one freeze on the 1st reboot, but voltages are lower than what I had before, I'll try to post some BIOS photos later.

CB Tracers are these ones?

interesting @ x64 vista

and nice rams :D

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Originally Posted by justapost

Can be 64bit os makes a difference, i use the 8.4 beta hotfix release.
Hmm with an 9500 all those should work HT<=NB (NB FID+4)<=9

I know, with MSI/ASUS had no problem setting HT<NB, but with DFI even if I set HT to AUTO and NB to 05(x9) I got C1 errors @ HTref 250. I have the feeling that my DFI have problems, or maybe I need more time to know it better, I also have 2 more Lanparty's 939 Expert-Opteron170@3000/UltraD-X2 3800+@2700 and had no problems at all, overcloking wise.

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I have those
These are the same without led's i think. LED's can be usefull to detect weather the ram started or not during startup but they make a 17€ difference.

They go well with DFI, color wise. :)
I've been thinking if I should go 2Gb 1066 or 4Gb 800, and I have been targeting those Tracers. :yepp:

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Originally Posted by Oese

nice temps, little too low even..

CPU/MOBO are OK, GPU 69/-1 LOL, no drivers yet.

Edit:

Installed Vista SP1 x64 with this Genius bios settings:

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1...0475ms1.th.jpg http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6...0476xd6.th.jpg http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3...0477xv0.th.jpg http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1...0479oh4.th.jpg http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9...0478pj3.th.jpg http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6...0480wa8.th.jpg http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3...0481ir5.th.jpg http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9...0482zr7.th.jpg

Running system:

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5...0483ka1.th.jpg http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8...0484oe0.th.jpg http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7...0485ip7.th.jpg

I tried G-Skill's 2x2GB DDR2-1000 kit and it works in 1066 mode at 2,12V. Does ~550MHz at 2,2V. Unstable at 560MHz at 2,3V.

Also updated the SB600 drivers to those available on the DFI Site. I get 111MB/s instead of 109B/s average now and ~20MB/s higher burst.

@BrotherEsau: Did you manage to oc your phenom with above settings?

@aGeom: :yepp: the 2GB kit matches perfect to the DFI mobo colorwise. The 4GB Kit would fit perfect in my sapphire version. :)
How much did you gain from weak mode? Did not help here in terms of cpu frequency. Tried to boot at 13,5x200 with 1,45V CPUV, managed to get into windows but the system freezes imediate after starting prime.
Also I think you should replace your RFC0 and RFC1 settings with each other, 75nm might even work for both.
Finaly, what are your load temps running prime at 2,75GHz? I get ~58°C CPU and 46°C core temps at 2.6GHZ/1.375V and ~62° CPU and 48° core temps at 2.6GHZ/1.45V.

Hey, all you gents running Phenom Processors could you please tell me if any of you with Phenom are having Issues Running AMD Overdrive the Newest version on the DFI 790FX -M2R please?

I have installed the new version 2 times now once with my 6400+ BE and now with Phenom 9600 BE it detects the Phenom just fine but just opening it up to look at AOD and without making any adjustments what so ever in AOD I click OK and in previous versions it just closed the Application now in this version clicking OK it says AMD Overdrive is Applying Settings Please Wait:confused: and then it will just freeze and say its applying settings which was never requested to begin with and I have to end up closing it down through Task Manager 10 minutes later:rolleyes: :down:

So the real question here has AMD Overdrive Ever worked for any DFI 790FX-M2R /Phenom Owners? At any point:rolleyes:
Please leave you're feed back because I am believing that its a Bios Issue because this Program has Locked up and wreaked havoc on any version of the Program with every Bios at least through my experiences:rolleyes:

Thanks for the pic links. :up:

That b/w is low, must be SP1, its very low for those timings.

About temps, what I meant is: if you have 1.4v real on Phenom at any MHz, 20C ambient, TRUE 2xDeltas, you can forget about being below 40C idle (without CnQ). Those software values you're seeing aren't temps, we've covered this a while ago. That's just Tcontrol. Actual temps will definitely be idling above 40C, very rarely below 45C at those volts. Hence, be careful :yepp:

You're talking about 155W TDP there, it'll be very hot on air.

Try 1.44V 2.9-3.1G on Q6600/Q6700, that'll give it the same temps your Phenom is at as a comparison.

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Originally Posted by justapost

I tried G-Skill's 2x2GB DDR2-1000 kit and it works in 1066 mode at 2,12V. Does ~550MHz at 2,2V. Unstable at 560MHz at 2,3V.

Also updated the SB600 drivers to those available on the DFI Site. I get 111MB/s instead of 109B/s average now and ~20MB/s higher burst.

@BrotherEsau: Did you manage to oc your phenom with above settings?

Actually tried the first template you put up before the others and it would not boot! I really need to do allot of reading on what Tony wrote on the Phenom situation with Overclocking and also threads from KTE, AussieFX, DaveBurt, Lightman and others to try to grasp the approach on working with the Bios settings with this Phenom:yepp:

What would be the best 2X2GB 1066MHZ Ram kit for this Board that should have no problems running at low voltage @1066 in Bios please?

AOD in the newest Version works over here with the x2, but disables c'n'q and sets a somewhat lower voltage..

@BrotherEsau: Odd, here are manual settings for stock without CnQ. Your systems gets stuck at C1 or 25 ?

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Genie Bios Settings =================== Timing Mode Manual Memory Clock value or Limit DDR 800 PCIE 3,4 State Auto PCIE 2 State x2 AMD K8 Cool&Quiet control Disabled CPU CLock Ratio 11,5x Spread Spectrum Disabled CPU Host/HTT Clock 200MHz CPU Host/HTT Boot Up Clock 200MHz CPU Host/HTT Adjust Gap 5MHz PCIE Clock 100MHz DRAM Configuration ------------------ DCTs Mode Ganged MCT Memory Timings MCT Memory Timing Manual 2T Mode Auto (Enabled) CAS Latency Time 5 CLK Precharge delay (tRAS) 16 CKL DRAM RAS# Precharge 5 CLK DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 5 CLK Bank to Bank Cmd (TRRD) Auto (4 CLK) CS/ODT Pin Fine Delay Enabled TLB Cache Mode Enabled Bank Swizzle Mode Enabled Auto Tweak Performance Disabled Optimal Performance Mode Disabled ODC Controll Mode DRAM Drivers Weak Mode Normal drive Output Driver Comp. Auto HT Link Control --------------- HT Link Width 16 bit HT Link Frequency 1.8 GHz IH Flow-COntrol Mode Disabled HT Link Tristate Disabled 2x LCLK Mode Disabled UnitID Clumping Disabled CPU-Feature ----------- CPU-NB DID 1 CPU-NB FID 05 AMD CPU Stepping P0 PWM-Setting ----------- PWM Control Enabled CPU VID COntrol 1.25000V CPU VID Specil Add Auto CPU NB Vlotage Control 1.25000V CPU NB VID Special Add Auto DRAM Voltage Control 2.12V SB PLL 1.2V Voltage 1.2V NB Core Voltage 1.200V NB PCIE Voltage 1.200V NB HT Voltage 1.290V

As an alternative leave "CPU Clock Ration" at AUTO, CnQ enabled and use a "CPU FID" of 07 with an "CPU DID" of 1 in the "CPU Feature" section first. Reboot disable "CnQ", reboot and use "CPU Clock Ratio" now.
It's like with memory timings, sometimes you can not do it in one step.

EDIT: Planet3dNow made an oc guide for phenom, they took alot of info out of tony's thread. Here is a translated version.

Did not look at Post Code on LED actually was early in the AM and had been up all night worried about my little Buddy Marshall and this was just prior to walking out the Door too. Probably not the best time in the world to be doing overclocking on unfamiliar ground:p:

What Bios are you guys with the Phenom Processors on anyways?