Being this Allendale is 800 FSB it wont behave the same as the 1066 FSB cpu's and it wont obey the chipset strap rules.
have you tried going directly to 400?
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Being this Allendale is 800 FSB it wont behave the same as the 1066 FSB cpu's and it wont obey the chipset strap rules.
have you tried going directly to 400?
Here is an odd problem for you guys:
Was just messing with my OC because things started getting unstable on FAH. Was at 500x7 @ 1.45v and so I just lowered it to 475x7 @1.45v. Things were still unstable so I went ahead and just backed all the way down to stock, all settings on auto. When I exited BIOS, the computer shutdown and tried to start backup. When it powered back on, no video came up. I've tried resetting cmos, reseating ram, proc, video card, leaving battery out for 15min. and taking the whole setup out of the case...and still no video on bootup. Any ideas what can be wrong and how to fix it?
Greetings!The only chance he has is to increase the vcore, while keeping the default multiplier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Istasi
Since he tries a lower than default multplier at 330FSB he is really overclocking the NB.
See here:
http://www.bleedinedgesupport.com/oc...ad.php?t=23803
So, 330/8*9=371, which is right between the "grey area" of 360-400.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vuk
download the latest BIOS file onto a floppy, make sure its unzipped of course.
then as computer begins POST press ALT + F2 , then folow the prompts.
I have a very strange problem with my P5B and 2GB TeamGroup PC6400 CL4:
If i make a change to the settings in BIOS, mostly the system won't POST. The fan of my 8800GTX starts spinning at full speed, and screen stays blank. I have to get out my Teams, and insert a TwinMOS 512 MB stick into the first slot, to boot the system again. Then i can enter the BIOS, and adjust voltage, timings etc. for the Teams.
When that is done, i save BIOS, and shut down the machine. After that i remove the TwinMOS and insert the TeamGroup again. Now comes the strange part:
Sometimes the system will POST, and other times it will not. I don't get it, i have set everything right in BIOS!
Also, when i power off my system for a long time, or when i reboot from Windows, my system sometimes won't POST.
What is happening here? Is my motherboard / RAM malfunctioning? Please help me with this, i don't know what to do and it is sooooo frustrating!!
Thank you!
You're not the only one having problems with the 8800 boards on ASUS P5B. It seems to be something incompatible. Probably will be fixed by ASUS with a new bios release.
Disable JMicron controller in BIOS (under onboard stuff). As it will be disabled, Windows will not find it and thus you don't need any drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by serious1
Put all your SATA devices on the ICH8(R) controller.
I had it disabled until I needed the eSATA port.
R.
^^OK thank you very much. The ICH8(R) sata ports are the black ones right?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SPivX
It's the ram voltage at default. The Vdim needs to be set higher, saved and then ram inserted. With one stick it usually is enough uiced to boot, but more times than not the higher performance ram needs higher vdim than the boards default to complete the post. It is a common problem that MB makers have yet to address.
65Cobra
Is it software (non issue) or hardware (an issue) : If other than Intel software gets the proper info that a non issue IMO .
You can try BartPE (REATOGO's setup util ) or Linux LiveCD ?
ingenue007
I don't use AstaLa-Vista , but from XP its like that : if u don't use RAID you don't need its drivers , apparently Vista needs drivers for the PATA part of the JMicron (it offers RAID(w/eSATA) and PATA. I'd say same goes for Intel ICH8R SATA/AHCI .
SPivX
I think that "juice" issue. It might be the PSU. Try minimal system config i.e give the 8800 all it needs , perhaps even by another (AT ?) PSU
Compare on how does the system behave with 1 stick (512 or 1Gb )
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ancient1
thanks for the reply. i do need some clarification though. i do not use RAID. that means i do not need to install the jmicron drivers rt? i do use an IDE dvd burner however.
how and when do i install the SATA/AHCI drivers? i need to set drives to AHCI in bios and then reinstall windows rt? the drivers i downloaded from intel are in an .exe file...do i install them in windows after the installation of vista?
one last important question. my drives are listed as IDE in bios at the moment. if i change to AHCI, will i loose data on them? (i use raptor as OS drive and seagate as data drive; i have data on seagate and do not want to loose ANY of it.) thanks
We've tried a myriad of different FSB (from 300-405) and VCore from 1.225-1.4+. I'll tell him to try FSB in 400+ range some more and see if he can get anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by kwalker
EDIT: If we were looking to use the x8 Multi, what would be the suggested FSB? 400+ I assume?
OK I started having serious false boot problems with my P5B Wifi.
I had left my system on 24/7 for over a week. On my watercooled Qx6700 I had been orthos stable for 12 hours and no problems for week.
Then few days ago I turned off comp and had false cold boot problem.
This board had also done the false cold re-boot thing, but I read some posts here that stated this wasn't much of a problem of the P5B-Deluxe.
However, when I first got the board it would only false boot and re-start itself but last few days it would just false boot and then turn off.
Today I ran orthos for 9 seconds got an error and then the system stopped posting completely.
I have read conflicting information about the false cold re-boot issue on P5B-Deluxe in this thread and others, and I am unsure now whether this m/b was unstable from the start, or whether I may done something to it?
Later I will try to break down that system and test the m/b with my E4300 just to make sure that it isn't my Qx6700 that is fried, but anyone with the most up to date information on degenerating false re-boots would be helpful.
I am wondering if anything other than the motherboard itself could cause or magnify this false reboot problem, such as faulty CPU or PSU ?
OK. you are missing some basic understandingQuote:
Originally Posted by ingenue007
1. RTFM . and carefully. GET TO KNOW YOUR MOBO & SYSTEM .
2. I suggest you get & use ASUS drivers first. You start with defaults , right ? so ..
3. ASUS diskette ( and Intel exe ) include Diskette Creation tool for XP F6 kind of situtaion. Create for Intel and JMicron
4. install for what use-need JMB PATA or Intel AHCI
5. There is a part that installs later in the OS . Thats the Manager and driver upgrade if applicable.
6. I never used AHCI . You won't lose any data on the hardware level since AHCI is access mode. same as when you disable RAID Mode in BIOS and "no RAID Array" , but when ReEnabled - its back as was .
I suggest you simply don't connect the Seagate when installing on the Raptor , and have any stuff needed on CD. It would certainly give you a chance to check all relevant options .
Ghostwind
You might be having a leak.
Once my PC self cold - started at 3 AM or so. Turned it was a short from leaked water.
exactly what I was thinkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Ancient1
ok i figured out i want ahci (intel ahci drivers) and don't need the jmicron raid drivers. set ahci in bios, installed vista and loaded ahci drivers and let vista install std ide drivers for optical drive. booted into windows and used intel matrix.exe app to install newest drivers dated 2/4/07 IIRC.
my computer runs like molasses. it runs fine, then slooooows down and my RAM light on the case lights up like it is loading everything into RAM. computer is non-responsive until it finishes doing whatever it does. Repeat couple mins later. This is on fresh install w/o apps except firefox and AOL IM. when computer slows down, task mon does not show anything at 100 percent CPU usage. i've disabled some services to narrow it down and no luck. Is this due to AHCI??
I also noticed under device manager I cannot enable 'write caching' it says this drive does not allow change in write cache.
Any ideas? maybe i should just give up and install vista as IDE.
@Ingenue007
I dont know , but I am getting my copy of both x32 and x64 Vista, so I will be installing it tommorow. So at least we will have a point of comparison. It shouldn't do that anyway.
So I will be having 4 OS on my comp, Winxp and Vista (x32 & x64), to test out the best OS at the moment for gaming and more important heavy workload. So have any of u guys had an experiance with mulibooting 4 of these systems. I use Bootmagic to separate them.
Also my computer started acting weird... I tried to make independent sound card by using that option in soundmax panel, to get my headset on front audio panel. It just didnt want to work... so I switched to AC option for front panel, and nada...All I got from this experiment was a dozen restarts, 1 BSOD, and 2 installs and deinstalls of drivers. And even more now I get random weird freezes. When in game, while downloading from net, and using DC++ oo local netLAN, at one point I just get a freeze with lost of sound. If I even manage to get to desktop, everything is frozen, and HD is like under heavy load... then it freeezes again for good. So unless restart u get a pretty picture to last you :D Anyone had any issues like that, and have anyone made front audio panel work as separate sound source... any input would be appreciated.
Oh god, sometimes this mb is driving me crazy... I wish I had a latest safety invention for that situation.. my head would hurt much less :D I think we should be getting with one with each ASUS board
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8...duracunit3.jpg
Well, i tried everything you suggested, but still no go!!! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
I tried the following things:
- Disconnect all devices except mobo, cpu, ram, vga
- Booted with other 512 mb stick and set 2.45 vDimm
- Booted with 1 stick Team
- tried GF 7900GT instead of 8800GTX
- tried ATi Radeon X300SE instead of 8800GTX
- Set everything to AUTO, including mem timings (SPD)
ALL of these things didn't work. Help me PLEASE! I'm getting crazy here! :mad: :mad: :mad:
ok i have vista working great now (knock on wood). took 3 installations. 1st was via IDE in bios and loading jmicron drivers which let to random crashes in vista and programs wouldn't run properly. decided to reformat using AHCI. changed to AHCI in bios and installed vista loading AHCI drivers using make floppy utility on intel's site. vista loaded extremely slow and computer felt like p166 running xp on 128 mb ram. it would run then pause more minutes at a time with RAM lights lighting up.
3rd install was the charm. i posted on asus boards asking for advice. reformatted and installed vista. did not load any AHCI or jmicron drivers. i let vista install everything from the disk. once loaded i created restore point prior to loading updated intel matrix manager drivers (ahci) in case that was the issue. loaded drivers no probs. continued to load other drivers (video etc). btw soundmax drivers suck; i can't get sound out of my 4 speakers, but can with default vista drivers. i then loaded the jmicron drivers via exe file. it asks if you want to install sata or plain IDE drivers; i chose plain IDE drivers for my optical drive. computer is running as it should now and all my apps work.
Anyone know how to install the P5B AHCI intel drivers for xp without it BSODing?
I did not load the jmicron drivers at all. Optical drive runs great. Listed as DVD/ CD-Rom Drives. Have you set up ReadyBoost?Quote:
Originally Posted by ingenue007
http://chuckbam.com/Vista/Perf_5_7.jpg
How do you change the command rate on this board for the memory ?
Hi is there a guide some where or a special bios to get fatbody micron working on the P5B -D? I have tried that little trick where you dislodge the ram a tiny bit but only booted to bios once and that is as far i have gotten so far.
I have tried . All tries were at 2.45v bios
450mhz 4-4-4-4
400mhz 4-4-4-4
375mhz 4-4-4-4
Does any one have a solution please?
I did the F6 method while installing XP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom|Nbk
Quote:
Originally Posted by rvd
afaik its auto on 1T for 2 dimms and 2T auto for 4 dimms but I could have incorrect info.
Hmm maybe, but I have 2 dimms and the new version of cpu-z says 2t, unless cpu-z is wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
^ Same here- I read somewhere that this chipset doesn't do 1T, but the 680i does
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stx
really?in fact for me cpu-z command rate is greyed out. what other software can I use to check command rate?had a quick look on sandra but couldnt find it there.
edit: indeed you are correct
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/chi...80i-sli_8.html
Quote:
In this case the Command Rate was set at 2T, because Intel chipsets do not support 1T Command Rate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
Get the newest version of CPU-Z
One was released just recently
Ok I've about had it with this board... So after all the issues with getting this board booted some time ago and then ordering a new board and having even more troubles with that one(switching out ram to get a good boot etc.. and having to use a different ram stick to boot almost every time) I finally got this thing running stable (or so I thought?). It's been up and running for a little over a month now stable at 3.5ghz. So I'm using my pc yesterday and I start up firefox and get an error...so I tried it again and another error... then I had another error popup on my screen before my pc decided to reboot. When it rebooted it went through the windows bootup process then bluescreen at the login screen...'irql not les than or equal too' or something like that....so it rebooted again... and AGAIN at the login screen I get another error message 'memory handling error' ok... so then I go into bios and adjust the vcore voltage to 1.48 and booted into windows, got passed the login screen and then BOOM another freaking bluescreen. So THEN I lowerd my nbcore and raised my memory core and I got into windows finally... BUT NOW my network card can't get an ip address from my router and I have no sound. No audio device found is what I get... and my NIC card is there but it cannot acquire an IP... So I uninstall my sound card and nic card and reboot again... but before it boots I go into bios to set my settings back to the original voltages and settings... (385x8, vcore 1.4625, memory@2.25, sb 1.65) ok so now I boot into windows and YAY my sound card is there, but my nic still cannot get an IP. So removed and installed my NIC yet AGAIN and BOOM my sound and NIC are both gone once again... I'm stumped. I even defragged and then uninstalled and reinstalled the nic/sound again to no avail... ANY IDEAS?!?!
I'm at my witts end, I don't know if this is an issue with my OS or if this really is a motherboard issue or a PSU(which I highly doubt) or what????
Just downloaded latest cpuz and it states i'm running in 2T. Have 6400hz GSkill memory with a E6600 @ 3.6.
Is there really no way of getting 1T?
Cheers
Had the same problem with my board and 6700, the board is volt modded and i had to turn up the vdimm to 2.1 then it starts, don't know if you have access to adjustable voltage control, it maybe the bios 910 only flashed last weekQuote:
Originally Posted by Shaolin3a
This is actually a common problem... Not odd at all actually. If you have any extra sticks of ram around, then you'll need to boot up using only one RAM slot and the other stick of RAM(RAM rated @1.8 volts) and once booted then you can go into your BIOS and set your settings back, then shut down and boot up with your normal RAM. The issue is this... the p5b-deluxe is notorious for gettings stuck in the bios reset loop. Basically your bios has reset to all defaults due to a failed overclock or whatever issue you had and now your RAM voltage is set back to default 1.8... Problem is you are probably running High Quality RAM which in most cases is rated @ 2.0 or 2.1 or so... Now the bios is SUPPOSE to detect your RAM voltage and adjust accordingly at startup but in my experience this doesn't happen often. What I had to do was just order the cheapest stick of RAM I could find from newegg for like 30bux which was rated @ 1.8 volts... and have that as a utility tool just in case my board decides to be LAME and not boot after a setting failed...which it has done SEVERAL SEVERAL times. Hopefully all this makes sense and is helpful? After this though, you're board shoot boot just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaolin3a
Abit's QuadGT supports 1T. But it's the only 965 that does.Quote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
Any ideas on my issue guys?
Off subject but does anyone notice that setting the drives to IDE instead of AHCI seems to give better performance? Or is that just me?
Just a heads up, wasn't sure if this had been mentioned or not, but the latest Speedfan Beta is working beautifully on my setup, finally.
Well in an interesting turn... Last night I was playing around with it and one of the nic ports on my mboard the light would turn on when it was plugged into the router, and the other one would not turn on at all... Then I lowered my nbridge voltage and they both came on, and my sound card re-appeared as well. But now my sound card is 'there' and I can go into it using creative sound panel but when I go into volume control in windows it says no sound device detected... Yet I can hear sound just fine and use the creative panel, but not the windows volume control. When I double click the sound icon in my system tray it says 'no mixer device installed' I've uninstalled and re-installed the sound card several several times and it's the same issue. My sound card is listed in hardware manager, but when I double click the speaker icon in my system tray it says no mixer device installed and when I go into control panel in windows it says no audio device is detected... But I can hear sound just fine lol... and I can use the creative labs sound panel. This is sooooo weird... suggestions?
Well , Sorry to hear about your problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrt2
You have new 1st grade stuff..
All I can say is , In general when u have any issue , the first thing is to stop overclocking. You noticed that lately when devices reappeared after you lowered voltage.
Higher voltage is NOT always the right answer.
If you decide to continue using the P5B Deluxe, I suggest you start keep a log. before you do anything check cabels , vacuum clean case, make sure there's not a speck on the mobo . nothing that might short/disrupt proper functioning.
Start at default/SPD , stress the system for an hour or so , and I mean every subsystem , including downloads, hdd , audio etc.. than use these setting for a week.
Now, next step should be at 66% or your max overclocked system. if its not stable than revert to 33% . If its stable than the 66% will be a new BASE . If not than the 33% .. etc
but keep a log or screen captures of all relevant parameters. this will be usefull in retracing you steps or RMAing .
GL
Quote:
Originally Posted by SPivX
After setting vdim with one stick and rebooting, di you let it go into windows after saving bios? If not try that then shut down then add ram. I had to do this to get it to stick and not let it think it had failed to load due to some other reason..
Quote:
Just picked up my Asus P5B deluxe> and i finished installing everything on my computer and updating everything (latest drivers/ latest bios 1004)
* Processor: e4300, Allendale
* Bios Revision: 1004
* Memory: OCZ 6400 el Platinum xtc rev2
* vCore: 1.40
* vFSB: 1.3
* vNB: 1.55
* vSB: 1.6o
* vMem: 2.15
* Configured FSB: 300 > memory @ 1000 ddr2
* Configured Ratio: 9
* Configured Memory Timings: 5-5-5-15
* C1E and SpeedStep off, Locked PCI Express Frequency locked at 100, PCI Sync Mode at 33.33.
and i can't get stable higher then 300mhz FSB??? ive tried everything, setting votlages to auto.. upping the voltage. right now my system is stable at 2.7ghz (300x9) and memory running at ddr2-1000mhz.. but once i lower the multiplyer, and bump up the FSB to 330mhz > the system doesn't even boot.
any ideas ???
yeah, it turns out that the processor has a FSB limit. i picked up a e6300 instead, and now my exact same setup is running 500x6 stock voltage on everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Istasi
Wow this thread is extremely long. Maybe the p5b needs its own forum.
I've been playing with this board for the past few days with an e6300 and the latest bios. I am able to do 7x450 with no problem other than heat, and no adjustments other than running the vcore at 1.4v. The cooler I'm running on it is crap and I don't want to push it further until I put in my retail e6600. For Ram I'm using 2x1GB Mushkin ddr2 800 SPD: 2.1v 4-5-4-11. I borrowed the e6300 from work and I now have my own e6600 sitting on my desk waiting to go in tonight.
I highly recommend when trying to find your best stable overclock that you disable the onboard sound. On Vista x64 with the Asus provided audio drivers the system is unstable with the FSB at anything above 300Mhz. It does, however, run just fine with the microsoft HD audio driver. It took me all day yesterday to figure out why the system was suddenly unable to maintain stability at even a moderate overclock. It should have been obvious but the instability was so strange. The windows control panel would not open, it would flash open and then close with no error message. SuperPi would not complete. Prime95 ran for 2 hours with no problem, as did 3DMark. I switched back to the microsoft hd audio drivers and all is well.
The BIOS settings on page one on the " P5B Deluxe: BIOS screens for maximum overclocking success " did not work. I configured the system frequency/voltage and the pc shut down and would not boot back up. So I unplugged it and got an overclocking failed message. I had to set the AI Tuning back to auto. Also, any idea on how to get rid of the beep during power up. It has been doing this since I put the pc together. When playing games like Half-Life2 I get a beep or two during game play. I have the most up to date BIOS. Why is this? Could this be a memory problem? I ran Memtest and it checked out fine. I am worried about damage to my PC.
Here are my specs:
ASUS P5B Deluxe/WIFI-AP edition.
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.40GHz OEM Processor. Ultra Xwind CPU cooler.
Corsair TWINX 1024MB PC5400 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 Memory (2 x 512MB).
PNY Optima 1GB PC2-5300 667MHz DDR2 DIMM Memory
Western Digital / Caviar SE 16 / 250GB / 7200 / 16MB / SATA-300 / OEM / Hard Drive .
Sony DRU810A / 16x8x16x DVD+RW / 16x6x16x DVD-RW / 8x DVD±R DL / Interchangable Bezels White or Black / Internal DVD Writer - Retail.
1.44MB Floppy Disk Drive (Black).
500w ANtec Smartpower 2.0.
PNY GEFORCE 7900 GS video card, 256mb.
Creative Audigy Sound Card.
Samsung SyncMaster 940mw HD/WS LCD Monitor.
Thank you.
run cpuz and open up the mainboard tab to see if the board reverted to 1X pci ex lane width in which case do a reset(power down with psu turned off then back on)boot up and set your northbridge volts to 1.45 and pci ex frequency to 105.
Marinecop, you're using different memory sticks, Corsair and PNY. Even if you don't get errors in memtest, it might affect your OC. Try running only with Corsair sticks and see what happens.
I'm not surprised at this. I am running an e6400 at a 420x8 overclock (all my RAM can do really) in Vista32 and it's stable, but I have totally lost sound when coming out of sleep mode. When I was playing a game (and hadn't realized the sound was gone until in the middle of a multiplayer fight!) it suddenly came back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mondo1287
I don't think it did this when not OCed, and it doesn't do it in XP.
Neither the Microsoft or SoundMax driver is great, with Microsoft I have problems getting the mike to work, with SoundMax, sometimes there is a bug where the audio input level keeps running up and down all the time and the output is extremely noisy. With neither can I get the front mike port to work.
I am beginning to suspect the sound chip itself is faulty, all the driver patches in the world can't do much with a badly designed sound chip.
Hi all, I'm a noob! :banana:
I have the P5B Deluxe WiFi with E6600, Vista Ultimate 32 bit and have installed 2 x 1Gb OCZ Platinum XTC DDR2-800.
I installed it on A1/A2 thinking this would give me Dual Channel Performance but on checking CPU-Z it showed it as Single Channel. After some research I discovered that I need to insert the memory in slots A1/B1.
I did this and the PC would then not even POST. Tried A2/B1 - no POST. B1/B2 - No POST.
So the memory will ONLY allow a boot up if A1/A2 is used. I tried 4 lots of 1Gb DDR2-800 and still it wouldn't POST. Do I have a dead B Channel that needs an RMA?? :-(
Thx, Rich
Hello. Today I've removed my WC kit and installed a 6200 TC vga and the intel stock cooler, then the computer worked for around 2 hours with no problems, 1.2volts vcore in CPUZ, 2.4ghz (400x6). Temperature was around 50oC idle and 65oC full load (orthos). Intel TM (thermal monitor) and Enhanced speed step ENABLED, so probably it's impossible that my CPU toasted since TM slow down the clock and vcore when temperature raises above acceptable values.
Then I went to have lunch and when I came back the screen was frozen couldn't move the mouse. After a reset the computer did not boot any more, tryied turning it off in the power supply and no go, tried the clear cmos jumper no go, tried removing the bios battery also no success. when I turn it on all the fans work and the HD light keeps on, the dvd-rom light flashes a few times and then it stuck. No video, no beeps. I'm desperate :(
Quote:
Originally Posted by fscussel
pull 1 stick of ram and try again, if it doesn't get a low voltage stick of value ram and try. your sticks want 2.2 volts and the board only wants to give it the default 1.8. sometimes it boots sometimes it doesn't. i've had the same problem with ballistix and 10th ann. edition. also try both sticks individually because 1 of my 10th ann. sticks will boot every single time the other is hit or miss. once it does boot bump up the vdimm and see if it helps.
Take out video card, pci cards, and ram. So only CPU, SATA, IDE etc are in board.Quote:
Originally Posted by fscussel
Turn on the computer. It'll probably beep a few times. Turn it off, re-install PCI cards, video card, and ram. Fire it up. :)
I got my new rig set up a week ago, then took a vacation, and came back to start tinkering with everything. Before I was able to start overclocking, I decided that my X1950XT was bad. It was causing either of my monitors to flash black at random intervals, and nothing I did either hardware or driver wise would fix that. So, I'm in the process of shipping the card back to Newegg, and wishing their RMA process was quicker. I grabbed a video card from Compusa that I intend to return once the 1950 gets back, because I'm very excited about my first foray into overclocking.
Before I get too deep into all this, some system specs:
p5b deluxe w/e6600
2x1gb g.skill pc6400 HZ
tuniq tower
150gb raptor
320gb seagate barracuda
lg dvdr
ati radeon x1300 pro (in the interim)
soundblaster x-fi xtremegamer
abit airpace pci-e wifi card
silverstone strider 560watt psu
All of my attempts at overclocking the processor have failed, many of which ended in the Bios telling me "Overclocking Failed - Press F1 to enter setup or F2 to load setup defaults and boot." One attempt even ended up in the Bios restoration utility coming up; I was just glad I had a floppy with 910 on it already made.
These problems don't surface at all when I tinker with memory settings; I can set the G.Skill's timings to their reccomended settings (4-4-4-12-4-42-3-10-5-13) at 2v and memtest the hell out of the thing, without any issues.
My attempts overclocking have all been at 401.
vCore: 1.4
vFSB: 1.3
vNB: 1.55
vSB: 1.60
C1E and SpeedStep off, Locked PCI Express Frequency locked at 100, PCI Sync Mode at 33.33.
Any ideas on what the heck I'm doing wrong? I'm new to overclocking, though I'm not new to system building; at the same time, it seems like I'm having a hell of a time with this system. Do I have another bad component, or is this user error?
I'm happy to answer any questions that might lead to an answer; thanks in advance.
edit: At 8x, I've been able to boot into windows at 333 and then again at 375. 401 didn't work; I had to F1 at bootup and decrease the FSB. That's when I tried 333, and then 375. At 375, I've been able to successfully run SuperPi at 1M, and Orthos is going right now for a few minutes. I realize that this doesn't mean much, but maybe 401+ is going to be a problem for me. Does this sound weird?
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2070/sshotbm4.jpg
Also, which of these programs is correct? 375*8 = 3000; why do Orthos and CoreTemp think it's 421 * 8?
drop your multiplier to 8x.
I luckily found an USB expansion conector (that one wich adds 2 usb ports and is installed in an PCI slot and then conected to the motherboard) that was bad conected (2 pins were out to the left) and all I can guess is that a long time ago I connected it this way but it has not caused problems because it was disabled in the bios, and when the PC reseted the bios to default values it enabled that conector and it somehow short ciurcuited making the system hang and the bios doesn't make any beep.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
they got the clock speed from windows which doesn't realize you dropped multi to 8. that explains the higher freq. however, coretemp does find out you dropped your multi and uses that and the windows found freq to calculate fsb. wrong way of doing it and is why it shows higher fsb.Quote:
Originally Posted by ziddey
Also 401 is appears to be a "bad" number due to something called a strap switch that I really don't understand. Use 400.Quote:
Originally Posted by yasher
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...5&postcount=30
How would you explain the beep at start up and the beep playing games? I have removed the PNY stick and still got the beep. I just want to get this board working right before I OC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackoberst
overheating maybe
According to AI Suite I am at 75f CPU and 77f system. I am sure it is not an overheating issue that is causing the beeps. I have seen it get as high as 86f when playing half life 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by ziddey
still trying to find out the main difference between non wifi and wifi? anything particular different besides the wifi capability? do they use the same bios?
lol you sure it's f and not c? if it's c then it's definitely not reading properly and shouldn't be trusted....Quote:
Originally Posted by MARINECOP
if it is actually celcius, then there's your problem ;)
hope its not celcius:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by MARINECOP
just the same
The beep is a frequency error mostly noticed when your useing heavy graphics.
The error can also come from an undervolted memory controller.
thats why I asked if you had a Pci Ex lane width error in cpuz.Even if you dont thats one of the symtoms before it fails.
If you set the Vcore and memory voltage manually the north bridge to 1.45 volts and lock the pci freqency at 33 MHz with PCI EX frequency around 105 you should be alright.
the rest of the settings are ok set to auto.
if you still have some problems set the Termination voltage to 1.4 volts this boosts the current flow through the memory controller circuitry
once you get the hang of it you can continue to overclock or stay where you are.:toast:
It is f.Quote:
Originally Posted by ziddey
I don't see a PCI error in CPUZ, but I will try those settings tomorrow. Thank you very much. Hope for the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by kwalker
:toast: good luck
Bye the way. What ram timings would you reccomend with my ram set up.
They are rated at 4-4-4-12 at 1.9 volts as long as your close to 667 you will be just fine .Quote:
Originally Posted by MARINECOP
they will run much better than this.
just set the volts a notch higher on this board.
What is ASUS ACPI Center? I've just noticed it when pressing Alt+Tab? I can see it in Task Manager>Processes and also in startup at msconfig.It came with Asus Probe.
Just wondering how the e4300 testing went with your P5B. I hit a wall were 320 is rock stable and 321 won't post. I'm going to to roll back from the 1004 bios this morning to see if that makes a difference. Maybe try to skip to 350 before I flash just to find out if there is a "fsb hole" that starts around 321.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghostwind
hi to all! i'm Ruben from italy. I have a p5b deluxe and two 250gb sata2. I would like to know where to connect those hd. I know that there are difference between red and black connector. I would like to know also how to set sata on bios and which driver install. i have read of ahci but i don't understand very well what is it. thank you for your help and sorry for my bad english
Well my board died. I woke up and went to turn it on and nothing. I first tried all the basics, cmos, flash, remove everything. Still nothing. Called ASUS and spent about an hour on the phone with them. They narrowed it down to the PSU, CPU or the board. I went out and bought the same board and here I am back in business. I still get the beep at start up with my 2x512 sticks of corsair. I removed the 1gb stick of PNY because I believe in keeping the same memory in. ASUS did say that the beep I was getting when playing half life 2 is due to a voltage issue with the video card. They gave me no solution for that though. I have a 500w ANtec, which should be sufficient for my Ge Force 7900GS. My BIOS is 710 and set to default. So now I have to upgrade the BIOS and start from scratch to tweak the BIOS. Can some one come over here and put a bullet in my head??????? :mad:
Once again I still have the beep at start up. I went through everything on the page one of the overclock section for this board and everything works great until I get to the Configure system frequency and voltage section. As soon as I get to the AI tuning and set it to anything other than manual, then save it. The system shuts down and will not boot up. So now I have AI set to auto and CPU freq set to 533 and it will work. So by doing all the other tweaks (northbridge and the other one) in the other two sections will I screw up my board? Should I just go with the board defaults? I don't want this board to die on me.
Same exact BIOS. The ONLY difference is the WiFi comes with the WiFi card. The non-wifi version has the connector for the card, just no card.Quote:
Originally Posted by noktekniq
I have both the WiFi ver and non-WiFi ver, FYI.
I'm a little confused about the cpu Frequency set to 533.Quote:
Originally Posted by MARINECOP
list your settings so we can offer assistance
boot with only one stick of ram and set everything to standard .
then boot into windows let it load and reboot to start over with both sticks.
set the ram to spd except voltage.
set your ram voltage to 2 volts and restart your OC .
sometimes this board needs a kick in the butt or it wont repect you.:D
So should I just leave it at 266? As for the settings they are here on the first post. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=115217Only the first two pics.Quote:
Originally Posted by kwalker
Don’t take some of those settings literally.Quote:
Originally Posted by MARINECOP
That’s a guide to get you started.
For a beginner you have to input lower settings at first
Then work your way up to your highest stable settings.
Use these settings to get you started.
CPU Frequency = 333
Dram 667
PCI Exp 105
PCI clock 33.33
CPU Vcore 1.4
Memory voltage 2.05
FSB Term 1.4
NB Vcore 1.45
SB Auto
ICH Auto
CPU multiplier 9X
Memory latency 4-4-4-12
In CPU settings enable execution disable bit the rest disable
Take your time and raise the FSB until your no longer stable then make your adjustments.
If you have already run this rig at 533 X 7 then I would say you have a nice CPU there and if you start low at 9 X multiplier you’ll end up with some pretty nice clocks at lower Vcore.
Also your limiting your rams bandwidth and Frequency at 533 7 X .
Your ram should be able to hit DDR 1000 at 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1 volts DDR 800 for sure.
Like I said take your time and use the recourses on this site but don’t get discouraged if you can’t run the same as others (you have to find your own sweet spot)
:cool:
This is what I went with, but it doesn't appear to be overclocked. http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...g?t=1172189406http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...g?t=1172189439
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...g?t=1172189470http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...g?t=1172189485
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It's because you lowered the multi. 7*333=2331Mhz
Increase FSB to 400 and the multi to 8. You'll get 3.2Ghz. Leave the vcore at 1.400v and see if it boots. If it does run Orthos to see if it's stable, check temps with CT and Probe. CT should be under 85 and CPU temp reported by Probe under 60. And put the mem frequency at 533, you will go 1:1.
Also disable SpreadSpectrum. In CPU Function leave CPU TM, Modify Ratio Support, Execute Disable Bit and PECI enabled, the rest disabled.
he is 1:1. the asus autochanges the number, thus 666 when hes at 333.
Oh, yes. Missed that, it's late night here and I'm pretty tired.
So should I disregard this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackoberst
No, skip the part with mem at 533. You already did that.
The rest is ok.
I changed it from 7 to 8 and 333 to 400 like you said. I am now at 3.2. Hip hip horay. By the way, what is orthos, ct and probe? I now have a power fan warning. 0rpms.
Orthos is for stability testing. Download link Core Temp is for temp monitoring. Asus Probe monitors MB temp, CPU temp, voltages, fan rpms, etc.
You'll find ASUS Probe on ftp.asus.com and there is a thread around here whre you can find CT.
Where do you get the power fan warning?
When running Orthos check temps with CT and Probe. Max cpu temp for CT is 85 and for Probe is 60. Make sure you don't go over.
lol you have a fan plugged into the power fan lead?
What does that mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by ziddey
This what ORTHOS gave me.
Type: Blend - stress CPU and RAM Min: 8 Max: 4096 InPlace: No Mem: 767 Time: 15
CPU: 3600MHz FSB: 400MHz [400MHz x 9.0 est.]
CPU: 3600MHz FSB: 400MHz [400MHz x 9.0 est.]
2/22/2007 9:14 PM
Launching 2 threads...
Using CPU #0
Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
Press Stop to end this test.
Test 1, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024K FFT length.
Test 2, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922943 using 1024K FFT length.
Test 3, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19374367 using 1024K FFT length.
Test 4, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19174369 using 1024K FFT length.
Test 5, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18874369 using 1024K FFT length.
Test 6, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18874367 using 1024K FFT length.
FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
Torture Test ran 16 minutes 3 seconds - 1 errors, 0 warnings.
Execution halted.
Using CPU #1
Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
Press Stop to end this test.
Test 1, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024K FFT length.
Test 2, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922943 using 1024K FFT length.
Test 3, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19374367 using 1024K FFT length.
Test 4, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19174369 using 1024K FFT length.
Test 5, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18874369 using 1024K FFT length.
Test 6, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18874367 using 1024K FFT length.
Torture Test ran 16 minutes 3 seconds - 0 errors, 0 warnings.
Execution halted.
ASUS PC Probe II
Alert Log Report
Number = 4
================================================== =
[02/22/2007 at 08:49 pm] POWER Fan Abnormal, 0 RPM
[02/22/2007 at 08:50 pm] POWER Fan Abnormal, 0 RPM
[02/22/2007 at 08:59 pm] POWER Fan Abnormal, 0 RPM
[02/22/2007 at 08:59 pm] POWER Fan Abnormal, 0 RPM
Orthos brought my temps up way high during the test. In AI SUITE I observed temps at, CPU 132F and System at 84F.
more vcore. p5b droops like a mother. 1.4v wouldn't even get me 3.2 before droop mod
Well, I just played Half Life 2 and my MOBO is beeping like crazy during game play. I will have to load all my settings to default and give up on overclocking this board. I must say that this is the worst motherboard that I have ever had. The first one died on me and now this. I should have known to stay away from ASUS. A couple of years ago I had an ASUS mobo that died on me before without any overclocking. I wasted weeks of time trying figure this board out. Thank you to all that have helped me. I am in your debt.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MARINECOP
before you give up just set your bios up like you showed but set all voltages to auto except cpu and ram set those at the settings that worked well before. also i bet the beeping is a reminder that the fan isn't working disable the warning for that fan and the beeping will stop i bet.
You are right about the fan. I contacted ASUS and they told me it was because pc probe was monitoring my fans, but I only had my PSU connected to the mobo. I disabled all the chassis 1, 2, 3. I still get a beep because my rear power fan is not turning on. I will have to figure that out. Could that be something that I have to enble in the bios? Power is 0rpms. I have kept my bios overclock settings and it is stable except for that power fan beep. Looks like that is where my problems lie.
ouch lol
I need some help with the onboard audio.
When I go into dxdiag and perform all the sound tests (you know, where it plays all those ancient nature bird sounds from win95 at different sample rates?), and after it gets through a few it comes up with the dialog:
"Your sound card does not support hardware buffering. Sounds will only play back from software buffers."
I believe this is the reason when I play emulator games (different emulators, most of which probably use fmod as the sound library), the audio becomes badly distorted, crackly, and time-warped after a certain period of time. Then it pops back and plays normally again for a few more seconds, then goes all screwy again. I seriously doubt my sound hardware does not have any hardware buffering capability. So is this another ASUS driver issue for this board, or is there something else I can try? Thanks.
I just tested mine and all were successful. Not sure what that means. Sounds like a driver / software issue
Grrr...
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Bad board or RAID software/iastor.sys issue? It happens on 2 different hdd's. RAM goes through memtest fine. I used Nlite the first time and a usb floppy the second time. Reg gets pounded and it makes me sad. :( I'd go right for a 680i, but the 7.2ms RAT and 171MB/s STR from the matrix RAID won't let me. :(
I've had that dreaded error a ton of times on my ds3. a lot of times, a reboot and it'd just go in for whatever reason.
Yeah, I can F8 it in, but I'd rather not get the error. :D
Marinecop, what cpu heatsink/fan do you have?
What's your cpu temp?
Do you have a digital multimeter?
What powersupply are you using?
What slots do you have the ram in?
Do not mix ram. Use the same ram. Preferrably bought in "dual channel" sets, not individually.
i can't get rid of the pcie x1 issue, and i am unstable at 3.3 ghz, any help is appreciated.
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