ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

When I update the driver within device manager, XP would not recognize nor install any ACHI driver for me (from PATA). It appears there are different strokes for different folks regardless of the reason, the issue is in fact real. As for me, I didn't have ACHI installed (as required when you install XP). Therefore the PITA procedures to install them.

The biggest problem I found was
- you could not extract the Intel Matrix .exe file
- when you used the floppy version the .inf would not load nor was it recognized by device manager.
- P5W DH Deluxe cd did not work either.

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Originally Posted by jvinsepa

OK, thank you - mine says 1.04g, and I got it from Newegg... so it seems they are shipping the new revision. I read earlier in the thread that someone thought newegg was only shipping 1.03g.

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What is the difference between revs.? I have rev 1.02. On this board... it uses default cpu multiplier so if i set fsb to 400fsb in bios save and exit the system uses default multi at first 400x11=4400mhz. then at asus post screen bios drops multiplier to what u have set in bios. I need alot of vcore 1.6+ to post above 400fsb i wonder if it is the same in the newer revisions? My p5b mb does not work like that but i would like to use this mb because it is much faster for what i use this system for. Anybody have any clues"?

Hello everybody!

I'm new to this forum. Reading though for some time and now that I have the problem I post. :(

I have P5W HD Deluxe with 1801 Bios, E6600. With this version of bios I managed to OC to 400FSB x 8 (3.2G) RAM 1:1 @ 4,4,4,12 (2.2V). On torture tests CPU got to 44C (1.35V), MB also to 44C and was very stable. I was happy with the performance. BUT! One day (computer one month old) it just woun't boot. No beep from the MB. Ofcourse I couldn't get to bios. Send it to service and foud out that the proc has died.

Now I just hope the garantie will get through cause of the OC. Now they are waiting for the proc, meanwhile they also changed the MB just in case.

Now, what do you think: is it possible that my OC-ing halped proc to die or there was bad piece in the first place? Is MB also the possible candidate? What else could be the reason?

Many thanks for your help and thoughts!

B.

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Originally Posted by Severance

Do u have a usb flash drive? u can use the asus ezflash 2. Download bios on to usb flash. Reboot Press <alt>+<f2> during post. bios setup program will come up go to tools select ez flash 2 press enter to enable it. U can switch drives using <tab> let it find the file.

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Thanks! I'll give it a try later today.

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Originally Posted by pentax

Hello everybody!

I'm new to this forum. Reading though for some time and now that I have the problem I post. :(

I have P5W HD Deluxe with 1801 Bios, E6600. With this version of bios I managed to OC to 400FSB x 8 (3.2G) RAM 1:1 @ 4,4,4,12 (2.2V). On torture tests CPU got to 44C (1.35V), MB also to 44C and was very stable. I was happy with the performance. BUT! One day (computer one month old) it just woun't boot. No beep from the MB. Ofcourse I couldn't get to bios. Send it to service and foud out that the proc has died.

Now I just hope the garantie will get through cause of the OC. Now they are waiting for the proc, meanwhile they also changed the MB just in case.

Now, what do you think: is it possible that my OC-ing halped proc to die or there was bad piece in the first place? Is MB also the possible candidate? What else could be the reason?

Many thanks for your help and thoughts!

B.

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If your processor died it was more then likely do to torture testing it or high OC IMO. The end results could have been heat or simple electrical failure do to the OC (I forget the technical name for it). Do you recall CPU temps? I've read about this before a while back and that's why I no longer use prime95 for hours/days on end (not saying you did this, I don't know). And I read countless times where an OC CPU is prime95 stable for 12 hours but crashes in a game. Although I cannot say for certain what the actual cause was. I will ask that you have your ram checked as well while you are at it.

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Originally Posted by nessi

Hi!
I've got ASUS p5w dhd mainboard. And i have alot of problems. I am currently using 1707 bios.

here is my hw:

Intel C2d E6600
Ati Radeon x1900xtx
OCZ value ram 2048ddr2 ch pc 5400 667mhz
forton source 600w
WD 200gb s-ata hard disc
Maxtor 300gb Ide hard disc 7200rpm
Maxtor 160gb ide hard disck 7200rpm
benq dvd drive (IDE)
unknown dvd bruner (ide)

Both my ide hard drives run in PIO mode, and i have tried alot to get it in DMA mode, cuz its REALLY slow, took me 110min to extract 5gb from winrar to the drive. And its REALLY slow when booting.

I am not very good in bios. But i've tried alittle, i really need help with this.

I have also problem finding my dvdburner.

I've tried to installe the newest jmicro raid driver but its in PIO mode still...

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I'd try using your hdd and burner off the intel pata port instead of jmicron (the ide port on the right part of the mb. Also make sure in your bios you have everything set properly in terms of IDE configuration.

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Originally Posted by semiskilled

my 24/7 clock is at 333fsb x9 on 1.32 vCore. If u try 1.35vCore i can use windows with up to 370fsb. but when i run ORTHOS its getting errors pretty quickly. it dosent matter if i max out the vfsb, vmch or vich. i think its strange, or is it normal? i want to raise my 24/7 OC w/o raise my vcore past 1.350. Any ideas of what could make it stable if its not the vcore?

atm i use EIST and all those things you shouldn't use just to get my pc as cold as possible when iam not using it. ram is running at 832mhz.

EDIT:
Thought i would show you my best 24/7 OC with stock cooler so far.
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9437/oc24qk5.th.jpg

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Many of us are using 1.60-1.61vcore without a problem, and need to do so to hit high clocks. Watch your core temperatures with Coretemp and as long as you're 70c or lower after a few minutes of dual prime95's, you're ok. You will only lose life on your cpu if you're in the 70s for long duration of time.

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Originally Posted by factory81

Guys, I have read up to page 54.....I apologize for not reading the rest.

I am on BIOS 1602

I can't get above 369 x 9 on L632A CPU for the life of me. Everything is disabled, I mean everything. I have been following your guides to the T. I turn the ram on SPD or my own timings and jack them up as high as the BIOS will allow me. I get in to XP and set Memset to have higher trfc is it all the way up to 40 and beyond.

I will take CPU voltage to 1.55v even and I cannot get past 369fsb period.
Orthos will restart within one minute if not the second I run it at 370 or 371, 373, or 375. I cannot......get past 3.32ghz....
Ive ran 8x multi and tried for higher FSB's and it doesn't want to do it.

Is it the BIOS revision I am on?

What can I provide to you guys to help you narrow down whats holding me back?

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Try booting into your stable clock, and increase your tRD to 8 with memset. The tRFC (set to 42) is important but not as important as tRD. Increase memory a notch up its manual setting (my memory is 2.20v even tho mb only wanted to put 1.80v into it initially), and feel free to put 1.60+v as long as your cores dont get higher than the 70's c when in dual prime95's.

Ok I have a 1.03G and I use the 1601 Bios cause as far as I can tell It's the last one where the 11 or 12 multipliers still work, Not everyone is blessed with really fast ram, I have two OCZ PC2-8000 dimms Timing 5-6-6-15, Bus speed 290MHz (Rated FSB: 1161MHz) and the cpu is a QX6700 running at 3.19GHz and Yes I'm using a multiplier of 11. The Thermaltake 750w toughpower psu has been replaced with a snappier OCZ 850w GameXstream psu.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_0094.jpg

hey is anyone here running ICH7 raid on vista with this board? If so, what files do i need to copy over to the usb flash drive for raid installation? thanks

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Originally Posted by syne_24

hey is anyone here running ICH7 raid on vista with this board? If so, what files do i need to copy over to the usb flash drive for raid installation? thanks

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None :)

Intel raid drivers aren't needed for vista installation, they're incorporated into the disc, atleast for the MSDN version anyway

Hi,

Could someone attach config files from MBM?

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Originally Posted by martinii

Hi,

Could someone attach config files from MBM?

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Bios? *sorry for such a long post.. is good info for new owners*

I thought that lawry had the bios settings in the first post, but notice now he didn't. Here's a paste from a thread on the asus forums on a slightly different model motherboard, but still applies for us.

NOTE - Please use this guide and apply the fixes that lawry suggests in the first post!! Also, I changed some of the settings from the guide to apply to our mb vs the P5WD2, but may have missed some (this is a long post), so please caution on setting absolutely everything to this post. If you doubt anything, feel free to ask us.
url: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

Settings and info (lawry, can you add this to the first post? Explanations dont have to be there, but it's great for people to see what to set their bios settings for to start their overclocking) :

Setting: Remarks:
Main
System Time
System Date
Legacy Diskette A

Some people reported problems having
this set to disabled, so just in
case, be aware of this. I haven't
experienced any whether set or
disabled, floppy connected or not.
Make sure your system is set stock!
My experience is that setting 1.44M
here while NOT having a floppy
connected makes the POST take
slightly longer to complete boot

Primary IDE Master

Blue IDE-connector Master
(Each can be entered, showing:)

Type
LBA/Large Mode
Block
PIO Mode
DMA Mode
Smart Monitoring

For HDDs only, using Standard IDE-
mode or AHCI-mode, set to enabled.
You'll get warnings when your drive
is about to fail. Worth the small
performance-hit. Likewise, if you
use the ICH7R in RAID-mode, you
should install Intel Matrix Storage
Manager application to get same
warnings from your RAID-arrays.
Note that SMART-reporting on RAID-
arrays is not yet supported (Is a
known issue), it works, it's there,
but for some reason, programs
reading SMART-values can't

32bit transfer

Enabled, if applicable
(Most modern devices support it)

Primary IDE Slave

Blue IDE-connector Slave

Third IDE Master

SATA1 Master in AHCI/RAID-mode

Third IDE Slave

SATA2 Slave in standard IDE-mode,
SATA2 Master in AHCI/RAID-mode

Fourth IDE Master

SATA3 Master in standard
IDE/AHCI/RAID-mode

Fourth IDE Slave

SATA4 Slave in standard IDE-mode,
SATA4 Master in AHCI/RAID-mode

IDE Configuration
Configure SATA as

Personal Preference
Standard IDE to use SATA-drives
emulating PATA-drives, hence max.
speed will be UDMA6=133MB/s.
AHCI to use SATA-drives as normal
SATA-drives, incl. hot-plug and NCQ,
requires Windows 2000 SP4/XP SP1
RAID to use SATA-drives as RAID-
arrays incl. hot-plug and NCQ.
Setting RAID and not creating
arrays is almost the same as AHCI,
with the added advantage that you
could use one drive as AHCI and 2
more for a RAID-array for example.
Not really recommended though.
Requires Win 2000 SP4/XP SP1
Requires onboard SATA bootROM
enabled. You cannot use the LAN-
bootROMs then! (BIOS 0302)

Onboard IDE Operate Mode Compatibilty mode

is only needed if
you have drives or opticals that are
old or otherwise don't work correct.
You will mostly notice immediately
if you need this, since detection of
the device will fail or be wrong

Onboard SATA Bootrom

Needed when in RAID-mode
Onboard LAN-bootROMs don't work if
this is enabled! (BIOS 0302)

ALPE and ASP

Personal Preference
AHCI-mode only: Enabled to get
power-management, ie. SATA-drives
have several standby-modes to save
power, but ofcourse, this creates a
performance hit. Only enable when
max. power-saving or less noise (if
system is idle for long periods) is
desired. Note: RAID-mode is
considered a "Performance"-mode,
and as such, these features will
not be available.

IDE Detect Timeout

35 sec.

System Information
Advanced
Jumperfree Configuration
AI Overclocking

Manual

CPU Frequency

Look on your CPU-box for FSB-value:
533: put 133 here
800: put 200 here
1066: put 266 here
Can't find it? Check CPU-link at end

DRAM Frequency

Set the speed of memory you have,
nothing else. Even for memorytypes
the manual says it'll downgrade

Performance Mode

Set Turbo

PCI Express Frequency

Set 90 Mhz (set 100 if you
get display corruption)

PCI Clock Sync Mode

Set 33.33 Mhz

Memory Voltage

Set 1.8

CPU VCore Voltage

Look on your CPU-box, it'll say
the max. voltage, can't find it?
Check at the end for CPU-link

FSB Termination Voltage

Set 1.2

MCH Chipset Voltage

Set 1.50

ICH Chipset Voltage

Set 1.05

Overclock Options

Simply never use, Crap, bull:banana::banana::banana::banana:
and anything but Rock&ROll :-)

AI N.O.S. Mode

Simply never use, even bigger Crap!

Sensitivity
Target Frequency
AI CPU Lock Free

Only D 8x0 procs. Disabled for
stock

LAN Cable Status
POST Check LAN Cable

Personal Preference, normally off
though, takes time at POST!

USB Configuration
USB Function

Personal Preference
Make DAMN sure you connect the
provided USB-expansionbrackets
CORRECTLY to board's USB-connectors,
NOT the IEEE1394-connectors!!!
Same is true vice versa for 1394!!!

Legacy USB Support

If you have S3 Standby problems
or otherwise need it (USB Keyboard/
mouse!), Enable. Also enabled for
power on options using USB keyboard/
mouse

USB 2.0 Controller

Personal Preference
Windows XP SP1->Windows update to
get required patch

USB 2.0 Cont. Mode

HiSpeed

BIOS EHCI hand-off

Disabled if installing Windows

USB Mass Storage

for USB memorysticks or other
external USB storage

Reset Delay

Time to try to boot from USB-stick

Emulation Type
CPU Configuration
Ratio CMOS Setting

Leave default

VID CMOS Setting

Leave default

AI CPU Lock Free

Disabled

Microcode Updation

Enabled

Max CPUID Value Limit

Disabled

Execute Disable

Disabled if you want a tiny
performance-gain. Anyone connected
to the internet SHOULD have proper
virus-scanner and Spyware-tools
installed anyway. Enabling this can
cause "good" software to refuse
running or even crash (DivX 5.2.1
for example). Disable in Windows:
Rightclick My Computer->Properties
->Advanced-TAB->Click Startup and
Recovery-Settings button->Click Edit
->Change all "/noexecute=Optin"
entries to "/Execute"->Save->
Restart. Enabled if you want it
anyway, in which case you'll have
to do nothing in Windows

Enhanced C1 Control

Auto

CPU Internal Thermal

Auto

Virtualization

Unuseable yet (Future feature) ->
Disable. Might be usefull with
virtualization software like
VMWare or Virtual PC/Server
though.

Hyper-Threading

Personal preference
MUST be set and left alone BEFORE
Windows-installation. You can
disable AFTER windows install,
but you cannot Enable AFTER
windows install, requires
Windows XP or later

Intel Speedstep Tech

Disabled, unless you want it despite
performance hit. Requires Windows XP
SP2 or later to use

Chipset
Configure DRAM by SPD

Enabled if you don't know your
memory-timings. Disabled to
manually set memory-timings or
for overclocking!!!
You should leave disabled to keep
manual timings ofcourse!!!
People having memory that downgrades
should set this to disabled and set
timings manually to make it run at
the speed they bought it for.
Check below for memory-explanations

DRAM CAS Latency

Same, check below

DRAM RAS# Precharge

Same, check below

DRAM RAS# to CAS#

Same, check below

DRAM RAS# Activate

Same, check below

DRAM Write Recovery

Same, check below

DRAM ECC Mode

Auto

Hyper Path 3

Disabled

DRAM Throttling Thres

Disabled for better performance,
especially if your memory has heat-
spreaders, Auto if you want programs
like CPU-Z to be able to read
correct memory-timings

Boot Graphics Adapter

PCI Express/PCI normally

Universal PCI-E Speed

X2 normally

PEG Buffer Length

Long

Link Latency

Slow

PEG Root Control

Enabled (Disable if video-problems)

PEG Link Mode

Normal (set slow for max. compatibility, ie. least auto-overclock)

Slot Power

Normal

high Priority Port

Disabled

Onboard Devices Configuration
HD Audio Controller

Personal Preference

Front Panel Support

Personal Preference, although,
depends on your box! ;-)

Onboard 1394

Personal Preference

Onboard PCIE GbE LAN_1

Personal Preference

LAN Option ROM

Enabled if you want to make use of
RPL/PXE/WOL (Wake On Lan) features
Works only when onboard SATA bootROM
is disabled! (BIOS 0302)

Onboard PCIE GbE LAN_2

Personal Preference

LAN Option ROM

Same here as LAN1

Jmicron SATA/PATA

Disabled, unless you really need it,
!alpha-state component!

Jmicron bootrom

Disabled, this simply doesn't work
correctly, just like all other
bootROMs don't work well (BIOS 0302)

Serial Port 1

Personal Preference

Parallel Port Address

Mostly leave default

Parallel Port Mode

ECP is best, EPP if problems, Bi-
directional for most older printers,
normal for prehistoric ones

ECP DMA Channel

3, unless you have a weird
(sound)PCI-Card stealing DMA 3

Parallel Port IRQ

7 (Windows doesn't use it anyway
in most cases)

Onboard Game

Personal Preference

PCI/PnP
Plug And Play OS

Enabled, disable if hardware-
conflicts

PCI LAtency

Most equipment can stand 32, if
PCI-card problems, leave default
at 64 or even increase to 128.
Increase too if your Realtek
SPDIF-output stutters.
Definitely play around with this
if you have any Creative soundcard!
Sorry, yes, Creative spells trouble!
If this doesn't help, try a
different PCI-slot

Allocate IRQ to VGA

No (Only used when video PCI-card
used, not PCIex)

Palette Snooping

Disabled, unless you use a very old
PCI-card which still conforms to the
prehistoric ISA-spec. (8/16 bits)
(And who will these days? Although,
some people have problems with their
expensive PCIex video-card, guess
ASUS left this option for them to
try with one of those :-) )

IRQ-xx assigned to

Leave these set to PCI Device,
unless specifically instructed
in your PCI-cards manual to set one

Power
Suspend Type

S1-state: PC stays on in low-
powermode when you select Standby
S3-state: PC turns off and saves
current state to memory
Auto: Windows detects what's
possible at install (usually S3)

Repost Video on S3

No, unless corrupted graphics or
STOP 0x000007E/0x000008E crash
after waking up from S3-standby,
then try setting to Yes

ACPI 2.0 Support

Yes, required in any 64-bits OS!

APIC Support

Enabled, required in any 64-bits OS!
Note that any change to last 2 should be done BEFORE
installing Windows and they should not be changed AFTER!
If you do, windows might not boot or even crash. In that
case, simply change back and it works again. You need to
change anyway? Then you'll HAVE to re-install windows.
There are ways to circumvent a re-install, but they're
complicated and technical and beyond the scope of this
info here

APM Configuration
Power button Mode

Personal Preference

Restore on AC loss

Personal Preference

Power on by RTC alarm

Personal Preference

Power on by Ex modems

Personal Preference

Power on by PCI

Required for WOL, Wake On LAN

Power on by PCIex

? useless in my view, but I'm sure
somebody has use for it

Power on by PS/2 keyb

Personal Preference

Power on by PS/2 mouse

Personal Preference

Hardware Monitor
AI Quiet

Disabled
I advice to use freeware Speedfan from
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php for much better control
of fans. All parameters here will then be irrelevant
anyway. If you choose not to use speedfan, I recommend
Optimal Mode for Fan-settings, and performance-mode
when overclocking

Boot
Boot Device Priority
Boot Settings Configuration
Quick boot

Enabled

Full Screen Logo

Personal Preference

Add On ROM

No use, unless you have PCI-card
with bootROM that messes up your
screen

Bootup numlock

Personal Preference

PS/2 Mouse

Personal Preference (Recommend
PS/2 over USB anyway)

Wait for F1

Personal Preference

Hit DEL

Personal Preference

Interrupt 19

Enabled if you plan using a PCI-
IDE/RAID or SCSI-card with bootROM,
which seems a logical step to take
with the jmicron not working :-)

Security
Blablabla

Who, other than possibly corporate
users, will use this now? ;-)

Just got home from work left comp running . This was not stable. Found comp shut down. Had to pull 1 stick out to boot...u guys know the deal. Oh well back down to 3.9 and leave it i guess.

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Originally Posted by nickfd

I thought that lawry had the bios settings in the first post, but notice now he didn't. Here's a paste from a thread on the asus forums on a slightly different model motherboard, but still applies for us.

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Yeh, I asked for people to post up their stable settings but no one wanted to cooporate even though they asked me to...

stable settings for me:)

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Originally Posted by yobi

stable settings for me:)

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Have u run memtest with those setts?". If u have thats a great stable mem clock.

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Originally Posted by Luis_GT

I don't know, but mines a 1.03G and its doing just Fine... it even overclocks like crazy... Managed tio get it up to 465FSB

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Screenshot please.

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Originally Posted by BenchZowner

That's a tough call, and a statistically wrong claim.
Have you tested a lot Rev1.03G boards ?
Nope.

Don't make such conclusions without enough research.

Unless the stock ( stock NB cooler, no Vmch ) 475MHz stable rev1.03g that I've got here sucks for you :)

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Yes, no vmch but NB cooler. With mods the posibilities are endless.

My Rev1.03G was fine for a month or so, after that it started to downgrade to the point that it could no longer do 390FSB.

When you say...."my mobo does xxxFSB" it would be nice to back it up with some screen shots...You know something like THIS.

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Originally Posted by lawrywild

Yeh, I asked for people to post up their stable settings but no one wanted to cooporate even though they asked me to...

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I apologize as I am one of those people. I've been testing different memory sticks as I'm investigating why some sticks do better than other (i.e. D9GHM, D9GKX, and D9 Fatbody).

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Originally Posted by nicepun

Screenshot please.




Yes, no vmch but NB cooler. With mods the posibilities are endless.

My Rev1.03G was fine for a month or so, after that it started to downgrade to the point that it could no longer do 390FSB.

When you say...."my mobo does xxxFSB" it would be nice to back it up with some screen shots...You know something like THIS.

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Try this one for a start :)
http://i11.tinypic.com/4hbw9wx.jpg
By that time I was maxed by my RAM's [ bad-a*s luck OCZ 6400 SOE Urban Micron D9 banana edition ]
Will check the max stable freq & max ram clocking on this board again with my new GeIL 1200+ 4-4-4-12.
Maybe I'll try cleaning the motherboard in order to mod the mobo for more Vmch aswell.

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Originally Posted by BenchZowner

Try this one for a start :)
REMOVED IMAGEBy that time I was maxed by my RAM's [ bad-a*s luck OCZ 6400 SOE Urban Micron D9 banana edition ]
Will check the max stable freq & max ram clocking on this board again with my new GeIL 1200+ 4-4-4-12.
Maybe I'll try cleaning the motherboard in order to mod the mobo for more Vmch aswell.

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Have you tried with 8x?

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Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

If your processor died it was more then likely do to torture testing it or high OC IMO. The end results could have been heat or simple electrical failure do to the OC (I forget the technical name for it). Do you recall CPU temps? I've read about this before a while back and that's why I no longer use prime95 for hours/days on end (not saying you did this, I don't know). And I read countless times where an OC CPU is prime95 stable for 12 hours but crashes in a game. Although I cannot say for certain what the actual cause was. I will ask that you have your ram checked as well while you are at it.

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My proc temp under the torture was 44C. I thought that was acceptable temp. System was stable also in other aplications/games. As I understand the electronics, one would experience system instability before you frie some equipment. It is not logical for me to burn the proc in the stable (and cool) system. Please someone to correct me on this if I'm wrong.

As far as RAM goes it ran under the manufacturer specified numbers (dual 400MHz - PC800 4,4,4,12 2,15V) so this shouldn't be the problem.

Does enybody know what are the chipset limitation on FSB freqs/voltages?

Thanks.
B.

Stable settings enclosed in file... :fact:

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Originally Posted by nicepun

Have you tried with 8x?

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Nope, but I'll test this motherboard once again for the review, so I'll be updating this thread with more stuff ( higher stable FSB, highest RAM overclock, etc ) :)

thanx for all the help with my mb, i found the PIO mode problem, a pin in the hard disc connector was pulled back. i just pulled it as the other pins and it works perfectly

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Originally Posted by nicepun

Try 450x8. Is the vdimm max value the same, 2.4v? I have family visiting right now so I will not get a chance to play with mine until this weekend.

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I tried 450x8 -> no go. So I loosened the memory timings a bit and bumped up the Vmch, Vcore, and Vdimm and still couldn't get the thing to POST. Yes, IIRC the Vdimm is still at 2.4V max. Any other suggestions for getting it beyond 400?

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Originally Posted by J33pG33k

I tried 450x8 -> no go. So I loosened the memory timings a bit and bumped up the Vmch, Vcore, and Vdimm and still couldn't get the thing to POST. Yes, IIRC the Vdimm is still at 2.4V max. Any other suggestions for getting it beyond 400?

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Is there a way you can get a hold of some D9GKX mem sticks? I've come to the conclusion that for some odd reason when it comes to higher 400+ FSB this mobo does not play nice with D9GMH regardless of the high binning. I have some high binned D9GMH and D9GKX and so far this has been my conclusion, of course I'm talking about 450x8 set in bios. Someone out there can prove me wrong. Or maybe it has something to do with the SPD timings that set in the memory itself.

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Originally Posted by nicepun

Is there a way you can get a hold of some D9GKX mem sticks? I've come to the conclusion that for some odd reason when it comes to higher 400+ FSB this mobo does not play nice with D9GMH regardless of the high binning. I have some high binned D9GMH and D9GKX and so far this has been my conclusion, of course I'm talking about 450x8 set in bios. Someone out there can prove me wrong. Or maybe it has something to do with the SPD timings that set in the memory itself.

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When you say D9GMH you are speaking of the actual chip on the memory module, correct? How, may I ask, do you find this information?

Unfortunately I won't be able to get and other memory for a while, as I just don't have the funding right now (beer and books come first :D ).

J33pG33k,

since we have similar configuration, can you tell me what are your voltages (MB-NB/SB, CPU, RAM) and temperature?


Thanks.

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Originally Posted by nicepun

My Rev1.03G was fine for a month or so, after that it started to downgrade to the point that it could no longer do 390FSB.

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Its funny, I think I´ve got the same problem, also with 1.03g. First week I was benching at 450, now, 1 month later, I can´t even boot at 440.
Do you change the thermal paste in the northbridge??
Do you use active cooling in the northbridge?
Its kind of weird a downgrade in such a short period of time.

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Originally Posted by monza1412

Its funny, I think I´ve got the same problem, also with 1.03g. First week I was benching at 450, now, 1 month later, I can´t even boot at 440.
Do you change the thermal paste in the northbridge??
Do you use active cooling in the northbridge?
Its kind of weird a downgrade in such a short period of time.

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I also noticed something similar except mine was not at high FSB. I think it was my e6600 which dropped in clocks

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Originally Posted by monza1412

Its funny, I think I´ve got the same problem, also with 1.03g. First week I was benching at 450, now, 1 month later, I can´t even boot at 440.
Do you change the thermal paste in the northbridge??
Do you use active cooling in the northbridge?
Its kind of weird a downgrade in such a short period of time.

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Yep, that sound about right, my kept degrading. I had the NB cooled and never saw temps above 34c.

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Originally Posted by lawrywild

I also noticed something similar except mine was not at high FSB. I think it was my e6600 which dropped in clocks

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That's what I was thinking but recently changed mobos to a 1.02g w/ 1.85vmch and now I'm back to normal. The 1.04G had some issues so I sent it back for RMA.

hi all;)
i have this beautiful board, but i can´t overclock him over 3ghz.
i have an e6600 l624
p5wdh 1707 bios sn:66..
2 gig gskill ddr2-800
vcore i tested with 1,4v now it is 1,3875v
why i can´t overclock higher??

regards from austria;)

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I also noticed something similar except mine was not at high FSB. I think it was my e6600 which dropped in clocks

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Ugh. This is starting to happen to me as well. I used to be completely fine and stable at 385x9 1.60vcore 2.30vdimm 1.65vmch with 5-5-5-15 or even slightly tighter timings, and then I changed my hard drive configuration around to go to the ICH7 SB, now mirroring my two raptors as my OS/program files, and a couple of standalone drives as JBOD.

I also added the creative sound blaster x-fi platinum, and since I changed the HDD configs, I had to reload. However, ever since then, I've probably reloaded at least 10 times over the past several days, and even at 333x9 with relaxed mem 5-6-6-18 (my SPD setting), moving my tRFC and tRD to 42-8(or 8-42?), I'm barely stable.

Half the time, soon as I boot into windows, I'll get a bluescreen immediately and the box'll reboot (havent had a chance to turn off auto-restart to see what it is), while other times, I'll get registry complaints, other times certain pieces of my hardware won't work (sound blaster, geforce 8800, even my floppy drive), where usually just a reinstall of the drivers will fix it. I've increased my vdimm to 2.4 and my vcore to 1.61 and I'm still on good temps, but I'm getting *SO* tired of reloading. Seems like soon as I reload my box, it's okay. However, when I start adding drivers (logitech bluetooth mx5000, latest intel chipset, lan, wireless, geforce), then apps (symantec corp antivirus, systool/speedfan, java, nero, azureus), somewhere along the way, things get real unstable and the box will start rebooting, messing up the hardware along the way; at least until I can reinstall the driver and set my tRFC? to 8.

What do you guys think could be my problem? Half the times, programs will crash or complain during installation that a .cab or .msi is corrupted, but I lower my tRFC? to 9, it works. Did I burn out my CPU? MB? Ram? Is there an easy way to test? And what can I do since I'm past my 30 days with all my equipment.

Oh, lastly, I think I remember reading that people had issues with x-fi cards, but that they got resolved in 1707.. I'm on 1707, but I'm curious what issues people had. Maybe tonight I'll try to reload again for the third time today (did two reloads this morning before work) without the sound card in place to see if that's my culprit. I'd hate to get rid of that card, cause when the box is actually working, what you hear out of it is absolutely amazing, and blows away any onboard sound solution on the market today.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by xymon

hi all;)
i have this beautiful board, but i can´t overclock him over 3ghz.
i have an e6600 l624
p5wdh 1707 bios sn:66..
2 gig gskill ddr2-800
vcore i tested with 1,4v now it is 1,3875v
why i can´t overclock higher??

regards from austria;)

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Disable nearly everything in your CPU Configuration, all the stuff below your memory timings in the chipset page, verify that your mem timings are manually set to proper spec that they came out of the box, and manually set your "jumperless config" page per my post a page or so back. Many of us have to push 1.60vcore to our chips to hit reasonable levels, especially those of us with earlier week cpu's, like you will probably have to, since you have an earlier week (24).

Best of luck.

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Originally Posted by monza1412

Its funny, I think I´ve got the same problem, also with 1.03g. First week I was benching at 450, now, 1 month later, I can´t even boot at 440.

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Same here... There is no way it should be degrading like this...

I've noticed that there is a point with these Intel chips that they will get quite hot from a very small increase in voltage...like say, witha "b" chip, 1.45 is 40c under water, but 1.475 leads to 56c...a big jump for a minor increase.

At the same time this happens, if you run for extended periods, the cpu degrades. For "A" chips this value seems to be around 1.575v or 1.6v, however, for "B" chips it's around 1.45v to 1.5v.

You can always increase votlage a bit more, and get more clocks, but the gains you get will fall off rapidly...at this point you are close to detroying your chip, with the combination of heat and current.

Seems to me the resistor packs on the bottom of the "b" chips is what makes the difference in those...probably smoothing out the power less and delivering more current ot the chip than an "A" would get with it's different resistor packets.


Anyway, watch temps as you start to increase voltage...see that big jump in temps? You are in "TOO MUCH VOLTS FOR THIS CPU" land.


I am unsure is this is sometihng to do with the sodlering of the IHS onto the cpu, and the point at which the solder becomes in-effective @ dealing with the heatload, but it really seems to me that heat is not a major factor in these chips...it's current. Too much, and your cpu is dead, or degrading.

This also seems to apply regardless if the cpu is under water, or under air or phase...as soon as you see that big jump in temps, your cpu is in trouble.

So now with my new cpu cooler i idle at 30celsius and now iam more worried about the MB. Probe and speedfan shows 44celsius idle. SB, NB and mofset heat sinks is pretty hot when i touch em.. ive removed the covers on the NB and SB and put some AS5 instead. no AC5 on the mofset, still original there.

Thats strange im running my Core2Duo @ 333*9 and get a temp of 23oc

but a tip for the motherboard as ive got mine down to 30oc i just got a Powerfan that i plugged into a Molex and postioned it facing the SB and that basically killed off all the heat

This is my rig atm.. i think when i replaced the stock cooler the northbridge dont get any air at all on the heat spreads.

http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/8...0047jp3.th.jpg

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This is my rig atm.. i think when i replaced the stock cooler the northbridge dont get any air at all on the heat spreads.

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A couple of 40mm fans screwed into the North & South sinks does the job nicely! ;) .....makes a hell of a difference :)

That North of yours looks tight with that 'beast' over part of it but if there is 8-10mm clearance you should be OK :)

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Originally Posted by scaramonga

A couple of 40mm fans screwed into the North & South sinks does the job nicely! ;) .....makes a hell of a difference :)

That North of yours looks tight with that 'beast' over part of it but if there is 8-10mm clearance you should be OK :)

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hehe.. well theres like 3-5mm clearance =P the beast is an Noctua NH-U12.

thinking if i will be able to squeeze a 40mm onto the SB.

i just installed the mofset fan that cames with the MB i thought if the NB gets hot and send the heat to the mofset i will be cooled there at least.. since this cpu cooler blows sideways it wont be interfered as the stock cooler would have.. even read some warnings about it in the manual i think.

but if it wont cut it and i still get to high temps i was wondering about if i really should cut the heatpipe between the NB and mofset just to try installing this one. And then i will have to face the cpu cooler to blow up and out through the power supply.

WZ, lawry, and all that have seen substantial decreases in clock performances with your equipment:

Do you guys recommend buying another CPU as replacement, or going a different motherboard route, or both?

I'm thinking to first start with CPU replacement if my tests this evening are still reacting the same way. If that won't solve the problem, I'm thinking to do motherboard.. Even though we get better performance for our mhz vs the rd600's, I think that with a few bios updates and when ppl figure out tweaks, the rd600's have a good possibility to beat the 975's clock for clock. So probably the DFI RD600. :(

I was so happy at 385x9 and everything was running so well, that it literally breaks my heart that these problems have occurred. I'm eagerly anticipating the launch of Vanguard, and was hoping to eat up the last week and a half of the beta trying out new class/race combinations and exploring as much of the world as possible, but it's hard when you have an unstable, dead box. Hrmpf.

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Originally Posted by semiskilled

hehe.. well theres like 3-5mm clearance =P the beast is an Noctua NH-U12.

thinking if i will be able to squeeze a 40mm onto the SB.

i just installed the mofset fan that cames with the MB i thought if the NB gets hot and send the heat to the mofset i will be cooled there at least.. since this cpu cooler blows sideways it wont be interfered as the stock cooler would have.. even read some warnings about it in the manual i think.

but if it wont cut it and i still get to high temps i was wondering about if i really should cut the heatpipe between the NB and mofset just to try installing this one. And then i will have to face the cpu cooler to blow up and out through the power supply.

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BTW- I looked at the pic of that bottom nb cooler you posted. Since I replaced mine with the Thermaltake Spirit II, and since one of my hooks holding it broke, I have a bit of experience in mounting the thing. IMHO, I don't think the arms of that cooler in your url look like they're going to fit well with the hooks of the nb on this mb. You're going to want to have adjustability on how much the arms go out from the center of the cooler, and from the pictures on the website, it looks like it's all stationary.

Your best bet is to go with one of the coolers listed on the first post of this article thread, since we've all used one of those and know they fit without much work.

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Originally Posted by nickfd

Do you guys recommend buying another CPU as replacement, or going a different motherboard route, or both?

I'm thinking to first start with CPU replacement if my tests this evening are still reacting the same way. If that won't solve the problem, I'm thinking to do motherboard.. Even though we get better performance for our mhz vs the rd600's, I think that with a few bios updates and when ppl figure out tweaks, the rd600's have a good possibility to beat the 975's clock for clock. So probably the DFI RD600. :(

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I tried playing the stupid enthusiast when calling the intel support line, not mentioning any overclocking, just saying that I tried putting more voltage, and getting more favourable results. They basically said, "if you can post, your cpu is fine," and won't consider replacing it until you try a new motherboard, ram, and psu combination, or at least take them out of the troubleshooting loop.

On the bright side, we can get oem e6600's for just under 300$, but it blows that getting any kind of warranty replacements for free is out of the question soon as you do some mods. :)

Guess what?! Memtest showed me that one of my 1gb pc8500 dimms was bad. I tried it in different slots to rule out the mb, and it was bad in all, while the other was oki.

Gonna look up corsair's warranty and cross my fingers. I spent a lot of coin on these dimms. Glad to see I'm still able to hit my normal 385x9 and everything's functioning fine. Prime95s are running as I type. Woohoo!

My MB temp is 45c according to probe2. i know it shows less then the actual temps but can anyone tell me if this temp is acceptable? iam running only 333fsb with all volt settings set to auto.

Attachment 54929Booted under 390fsb clockgen up to 430fsb memory at 1.1 dimms needed 2.4 to be stable here. vcore 4.75.

What do you think of this..?
Maybe if i lower Vcore the temp will drop a bit?
I'm still in doubt what 24/7 config i will use. This one or 333x9.
At 333x9 i've got more bandwith so..

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...check400_8.jpg

looks good redrock. My temps are low because im chilled liquid cooling. Have u manualy set your mem timings?" try 4.4.4.12. That mem should be able to do it.

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My MB temp is 45c according to probe2. i know it shows less then the actual temps but can anyone tell me if this temp is acceptable? iam running only 333fsb with all volt settings set to auto.

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Kinda high for my liking buddy........mines sits at 29c and I run the same FSB as yourself........;)

Severance, is that your idle temp? or stressed (or is it stressed :slobber: )
Do you have water cooling?

I've haven't tried manueel timings with 8x400.
With 9x33 i did, i had 4-4-4-12.
Will try that as well and lower the Vcore.
cheers mate

I have an idle temp measured in core temp of 50˚C. Under Orthos load it goes all the way up to 83˚C. Maybe I'm crazy, but so far everything is good. This is my 24/7 setup, 1.425v on my E6600 for 390*9.

I can let you know when I start seeing some problems. Who knows? Maybe I never will :cool:

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Originally Posted by Redrock32

Severance, is that your idle temp? or stressed (or is it stressed :slobber: )
Do you have water cooling?

I've haven't tried manueel timings with 8x400.
With 9x33 i did, i had 4-4-4-12.
Will try that as well and lower the Vcore.
cheers mate

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That was 80% stressed but like i said im water cooling and coolant is chilled to about -10. Also cooling the chipset but without voltmods it does not help much. also the x6800 runs a bit cooler then other chips.

IS it "easy" to go over 500fsb with P5W DH . im thinking on getting one of this board, found one for 166 (open box) is that a good price?

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Originally Posted by Ajfina

IS it "easy" to go over 500fsb with P5W DH . im thinking on getting one of this board, found one for 166 (open box) is that a good price?

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Decent price but they should be coming down month to month now. 500 is not "easy" but certainly possible.

from most fo the ersults i have seen 500 is very very hard on 975X mobos specially P5W

if u can wait get the DFI P965

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Originally Posted by Ajfina

IS it "easy" to go over 500fsb with P5W DH . im thinking on getting one of this board, found one for 166 (open box) is that a good price?

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It is NOT easy to get to 500fsb with this board. Best you can cross your fingers for is mid 400s, however the board performs on par with equivilant 680i and rd600's with their highers fsbs and clocks for some reason. I read quite a few reviews with people that had rd600s that were benching in the 450-500 range that had pretty much the same superpi scores that we get on our 975 in much lower fsb.

Will this change? Possibly and probably with 6months of bios updates and maybe a mb revision or two.

Since my hardware issue just ended up being my ram, i'm not going to replace my mb and just stick with this guy for now. I'm content with my performance even though my cpu is a melon and is walled at ~3450-3500mhz on any multiplier. :mad:

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Originally Posted by nickfd

It is NOT easy to get to 500fsb with this board. Best you can cross your fingers for is mid 400s, however the board performs on par with equivilant 680i and rd600's with their highers fsbs and clocks for some reason. I read quite a few reviews with people that had rd600s that were benching in the 450-500 range that had pretty much the same superpi scores that we get on our 975 in much lower fsb.

Will this change? Possibly and probably with 6months of bios updates and maybe a mb revision or two.

Since my hardware issue just ended up being my ram, i'm not going to replace my mb and just stick with this guy for now. I'm content with my performance even though my cpu is a melon and is walled at ~3450-3500mhz on any multiplier. :mad:

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Best kept secret they don't want you to know :fact:

Don't u just luv ASUS! :D

:rolleyes:

:stick:

My friend is gonna give me his P5W for testing, cause i might replace my P5B Dlx with it (just otu of boredom) but now im concerned with this degrading of OC over time.....how wide spread is that?

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Originally Posted by Gascogne

Anyone found a solution why the motherboard reboots when one selects shutdown in windows? And no clearing the cmos doesn't help at all.

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Same problem here,wonder if there is a fix available yet?

I wanted to be able to Shut down my pc without using the power button so I placed a pci usb card (4 ports) in my computer. That worked just fine, I was able to shut down normally without the annoying restarts.

Just for fun I tried to use the (top 2) usb ports on the motherboard again. Now these 2 ports worked fine too, no more unwanted restarts!

Just to see what would happen next I took the pci usb card out again (after all, the P5WDH Deluxe doesn't have an abundance of pci slots ;)) and again tried the 2 usb ports at the back and amazingly enough they still worked properly, no restarts.

Now, the the unwanted restart problem has shifted from the back usb ports to the 2 front panel usb ports, if I leave anything in these ports during shutdown, the pc restarts!! :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by scaramonga

Kinda high for my liking buddy........mines sits at 29c and I run the same FSB as yourself........;)

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And you dont have any extra cooling for the northbridge or mofsets ? also, what cpu cooler do you use?

DutchBBQ just alerted me to 1803 Bios which was on a German site.

Here's a rapidshare link: http://rapidshare.com/files/12544296...eluxe-1803.rar

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Originally Posted by lawrywild

DutchBBQ just alerted me to 1803 Bios which was on a German site.

Here's a rapidshare link: http://rapidshare.com/files/12544296...eluxe-1803.rar

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great! now whats new since 1707 ?

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And you dont have any extra cooling for the northbridge or mofsets ? also, what cpu cooler do you use?

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Just the 40mm fans I told ya about earlier my friend :) .....nothing on mofsets.

Apoggee block on CPU :)

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DutchBBQ just alerted me to 1803 Bios which was on a German site.

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Hmm.......I sense the usual changes......nothing! LOL :)

I bought this board on the 5 Jan with the Qx6700 ... gosh what a freaking nitemare, this got to be the worst choice i have ever made in 20 years of playing around with computers.

Here is the email i sent to Asus recently. They have not replied.

RMA Email DETAILS
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Received Date: 1/18/2007 8:37:06 AM
Email Subject: P5WDH ???

Email description:
Dear Asus,

I am writing to inform you regarding my recent
purchase of the P5WDH Deluxe board on the 5th of Jan
in Singapre. After hearing raving reviews about how
this board is, i decided to pair it up with the QX6700
quad core. Having spent over S$2000 on motherboard and
CPU alone, I was excited with the new system. I picked
up the system upon returning home to discover a
shocking 78 degrees on the CPU temperature upon bootup. I returned
to the store. They checked and
there was really nothing wrong. Out of the brilliant
service, they replaced a new Quad core CPU and a new
P5WDH deluxe board. We booted up and the results
dazzled us. It was similar hitting over 70+ degrees.
We crossed checked with another brand 975 board to
discover the temperature was at around 30+ upon
booting up with the new CPU. Suggestion was made to
update the bios 1707 and it cured the flawed readings.
I wonder how Asus have decided to put a Quad core
ready sticker on the box when the temp reading do not
comply!!

I returned home feeling more confident this time. As i
was reinstalled the new OS, I was faced with more than
1 minute wait at the bootup screen, I had to stare at
my own watch as i patiently wait for the so called 1
of the fastest machine available on the island get
into windows. Inside windows, the benchmarks were
great. Outside of it, it boots slower than a pentium3.
Infact the waiting would extend over 2 minutes and i
had to try my luck rebooting. I cannot help but feel
dumb over this bootup affair it was like playing dice.
I rearranged the rams, checked the master slave
relationship of the system. Booted up with 512 ram on
various configurations. The shop could not handle the
situation as such incident was unheard of. This was
extremely strange. I disabled the Q-fans and it helped
alittle.

Just after a day, a new problem surfaced, I have yet
to come to terms with the no signal input with my
monitor and auto cut off on the power supply after 5
seconds. I returned to the store the following day to
learn there was nothing wrong with the Nvidia based
6600 video card upon cross checking with the
technician. I returned home facing a no video signal
and the system cutting the power supply on its own yet
again. So i had to return with system to the shop. I
thought the 550 watter could be the source, so i opted
for a 850watts which seems overkill for the system
running 4 hardrives and 2 dvd writers. It booted fine
and so did the 550watts! Anyway, the shop exchanged
another mobo just incase. I upgraded to 2 slots of 1
gig ddr2 rams to replace the old ones just incase.
Though there was nothing wrong with the 4 slots of 512
that i had, they have tested them in earlier trouble
shoot. With this 3rd motherboard in 1 frustrating week
of running around. I have spent the money and still
without a proper computer to use. 12/13 Jan weekend
was spent on the DIY of the setup, though i had to
return to the store again for a faulty 850watts PSU
whose fan didn''t spin making it the 4th trip to the
shop in a week. I installed windows only to find the
OS was detecting 1 CPU instead of 4 reported from the
bios. I set everything to default and it came up fine.
After hours of hardware arrangements and software
installation, with the early hours of the weekend
morning I am left with blisters on my thumbs. I was
truly exhausted with the whole affair from the week
and remain hopeful for the new computer to work. On
13Jan Sunday, i could not boot the system again after
the long hours i have put into installing the system
myself the day before. Please do not call me a newbie,
I had own 386 i was a kid and had hands on experience
with computers since.

If u may allow me to reinstate on the fact, this 3rd
motherboard has the latest firmware, my hardware are
all new other than a few harddisk and the existing
videocard that is less than 1 year old. I had to
destroy all the hardwork that i have put into
assemblying this system. Stripping it bare, for
testing and flashing, what amazes me is the P5wdh
powers up on it own even with no contact and dies off
a few seconds later. This is a hair pulling
experience.

On Jan 15, instead of seeking the shop for help, I
went to Big3 who distributed the board here in
Singapore. The technician was shock with the board
that boots up on its own once u connect the PSU. The
new board he got from the box with the quad core ready
sticker too reported the temp at 90+ degree cel. I had
to tell him that the bios below 1707 do not work.
Anyway, he willingly exchanged the 4th P5dwh board.
10days have past I do not have a system running. Isn''t
it quite entertaining to realise 4 pieces of P5WDH
cost around the price of 1 unit of QX6700.

So i returned home, installed the new Mobo that was
verified to be ok at the distributor. I had to go
through the whole ordeal yet once again. Building the
system from scratch, i had been going to bed past 3am
for last few days and had taken days off for this.
When i completed building the system, the new mobo
replicated exactly the same problem with booting. What
makes it more interesting is the fact that when i
connect a USB item the mobo would boot up on its own.
I have spoken to tech savy friends, they could not
help but feel sorry for my phlight.

To be fair, I did have doubts on the Quad core
initially, so i sloted in the a 820 chip it booted
fine on with only the video card and ram connected. As
i added the rest, the system would hang at bootup. I
cannot even install windows to test the stability.
This deluxe board is a test to my sanity. And a
complete joke at that price. I have wasted time and
money on the extra trips for exchanges and earn back
similar failures.

I am through with this so called premium board. I have
gone through 4 different boards of the same brand that
refuses to work even on a 1 year old chip that boots
fine on a 945 mobo.

I shared the story with the shop, they were very sorry
for the incident and kindly allow me to choose another
board and even refunded me the difference. Prices had
decrease since i bought my setup and i was setback
with a deluxe board that refuses to work. This is my
last Asus product purchase. If you can kindly inform
what could have gone wrong i am most interested to
know.

In the meantime, I am writing to you from my Quadcore
running on 965 DS4. This thing rocks.

Best regards,

Re 1803, I don't know if it was this bios but I've just had my first ever bad flash, it stopped at erasing the bios. Thank god for crashfree bis recovery, system now is up and running with 1803....
ChrisC

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Originally Posted by cuke2u

Re 1803, I don't know if it was this bios but I've just had my first ever bad flash, it stopped at erasing the bios. Thank god for crashfree bis recovery, system now is up and running with 1803....
ChrisC

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Ive flashed.. but every time i boot i get "CMOS checksum bad" or something similar. BIOS settings is restored to default values every time i boot :P is it something simpe to solve this error? else back to 1707 =7

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Originally Posted by cuke2u

Re 1803, I don't know if it was this bios but I've just had my first ever bad flash, it stopped at erasing the bios. Thank god for crashfree bis recovery, system now is up and running with 1803....
ChrisC

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Nice to know........I'll leave well alone! :D ;) :)

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Originally Posted by Millyons

My friend is gonna give me his P5W for testing, cause i might replace my P5B Dlx with it (just otu of boredom) but now im concerned with this degrading of OC over time.....how wide spread is that?

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I thought it was happening to me, since I'm constantly pushing 1.60-1.61 vcore to my cpu, but like i mentioned, my problem ended up being one of the sticks of my ram (which corsair is replacing). In the hundred some pages we have of the thread, there hasnt been a consensus of this happening, just a couple of issues here and there (it may be other parts).

Best bet is to stay away from overvolting your chip, but if you cant help it, then oh well. :) My temps are okay under water, so I'm just assuming the risk I guess.

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Originally Posted by wavelength

I bought this board on the 5 Jan with the Qx6700 ... gosh what a freaking nitemare, this got to be the worst choice i have ever made in 20 years of playing around with computers.

Here is the email i sent to Asus recently. They have not replied.

RMA Email DETAILS
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Received Date: 1/18/2007 8:37:06 AM
Email Subject: P5WDH ???

[.. cut ..]

In the meantime, I am writing to you from my Quadcore
running on 965 DS4. This thing rocks.

Best regards,

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Wow man, I really feel for you and what you had to go through regarding your board. There are fixes for pretty much all of the issues that you have if you were to tweak your bios manually a bit, but I'd say go with RD600 for quadcore. The bios is still in its infancy for it, but people have a lot of hope to get their quadcores overclocked well beyond the 975chipset range.

Hope you won't have anymore issues with your rig for a long time!

vCore 1.43 in BIOS 1707.
vDIM 2.1
System running at 1:1
All other voltages set to auto.

CPU-Z Validation

TAT load/idle
http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/7754/tat6ba.th.jpg

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/1...mnls6nn.th.jpg

I noticed that Probe 2 first now at higher OC's have started to shows this 256c cpu temp that i read about. anyone know why this happens?

Is this good hardware i have? or is it average? iam pretty sure it don't suck at least =)

Okay I have some very interesting news to report in my mind.

My friend has this:
Asus P5B (original, and factory BIOS)
E6400 L632A @ up to 3.55ghz w/ memory voltage limiting him on stability, or @ 3.35ghz stable (419 x 8 ) (Scythe Mine)
2GB Team Xtreme 667 @ 4-4-4-10 w/ 42 TRFC @ 2.1v
EVGA 7950GT KO
650w BFG PSU


Not only am I jealous of his memory timings given to him on the LOWEST end 965 board from Asus.

But we both have L632A's.... ( I have E6600 )
You see my signature
I have a WALL. Like a 300% wall....I just can't get past 369 x 9 no matter what. I am going to put my CPU in his machine today because not only does my CPU run hotter. But watch this screenshot of my computer running Orthos w/ Intel TAT running......
First of all my temps are pretty damn hot, one core is 4 degrees hotter at any given time it seems. I am running 1.4v on the vcore in the BIOS.

Alright now I won't post a huge screenshot, but here are the links
Before orthos.......and then while running orthos

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...5L7/before.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...15L7/after.jpg


Are these CPU reports accurate on temps? I felt my heatpipes coming out of the CPU and they feel warm....but not 85 C warm. And then I will fail orthos trying to see how low I can get the voltages and still pass orthos, go in to the BIOS and look at the cpu temp and it might be 62 C or so, meanwhile in TAT my CPU's will idle in a 79 degree room at 75 Cel, and 79 Cel

As I go in Intel's TAT options it does have on demand clock modulation in monitor mode only. And that is selected to processor....so my CPU exceeds 85 Celsius and one of my cpu's multi's goes from 9x to 5x? Because 5x369= 1860mhz.


Why does one of my core's go to 1.86ghz and the other stay at 3.32ghz while in TAT and running Orthos? Is my computer really running at these temps? I don't want to go buy a temp. gun just to find out.....

What I am finding out today is.....what my E6600 does on my friends board with my Scythe Ninja......because I think my P5W DH is messed up. I bought it used from a person who was going the 680 route because he wanted to run SLI 8800GTX's.........
Im seriously considering P5B line-up right now.....

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I thought it was happening to me, since I'm constantly pushing 1.60-1.61 vcore to my cpu, but like i mentioned, my problem ended up being one of the sticks of my ram (which corsair is replacing). In the hundred some pages we have of the thread, there hasnt been a consensus of this happening, just a couple of issues here and there (it may be other parts).

Best bet is to stay away from overvolting your chip, but if you cant help it, then oh well. :) My temps are okay under water, so I'm just assuming the risk I guess.

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ok thanks man, thats ok then, there have been also some reports on other boards when lets say it can orthos for days and then next time fail in few min and then orthos for days again, wich also happened to me on my setup....all cool though thanks

I play around and test things with 2 systems.1-asus p5b deluxe,x6800,ocz-flex xlc 1150mhzwatercolled memory,2raptors in raid0. 2-asus p5wdh deluxe,x6800,corsair 8500c5 memory,2raptors in raid 0. The p5bdelux system is at 500fsb mem at 1200mhz. The p5wdh system is at 400fsb mem at 800mhz. All i can say is the p5wdh system blows the other away in everything i use these systems for. Unraring big files,games,just browsing through folders,browsing internet and there is no comparison at all. also intalling os is much faster with p5wdh. it just feels light years faster then p5b.

So just noticed the new 1803 bios is up on 1st page.......Anyone tryed it and have details on what the fixes and bios features are

Topboy

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I bought this board on the 5 Jan with the Qx6700 ... gosh what a freaking nitemare, this got to be the worst choice i have ever made in 20 years of playing around with computers.
Etc...

Best regards,

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Dang you are persistent I would have packed it in alot earlier. Not sure if this would help you at all but it has given me a problem in the past installing new motherboards. Check to ensure the case mounting brackets for the motherboard are not shorting out spots on the bottom of the board. Other then that with what you did to try to resolve your issue. It appears it would have to be a compatitbility issue with the CPU. If I was you I would return it and get a 6600 and Overclock it and spend the difference on a better video card. I have this board and have had very few issues with it and it runs my 6600 cpu at 3.1 ghz on air no problem. Good luck.

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Wow man, I really feel for you and what you had to go through regarding your board. There are fixes for pretty much all of the issues that you have if you were to tweak your bios manually a bit, but I'd say go with RD600 for quadcore. The bios is still in its infancy for it, but people have a lot of hope to get their quadcores overclocked well beyond the 975chipset range.

Hope you won't have anymore issues with your rig for a long time!

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Tks for your input, it appears ironic that the 975 has been out awhile longer than the 965 with the quad core support seemingly more mature on the 965.
Actually i have lost track on how fast/slow my old 820 compared to the the qx6700 with 2 weeks worth gone for setting up. Its 3 times faster with 3d application like max according to the timing. To solve some of the issues with the P5wdh, I did try a different firmware the 1607 i think but the ez flash utility could no longer function properly as in it does not allow me to choose the rom file from neither my harddisk or USB thumbdrive. I got around by switching jumpers on the mobo clearing the memory on the bios. Under a "new" bios detection i went direct to bring back the function to flash the firmware back to 1707. The bios are indeed screwed.

Long gone are the issues I had faced with the P5dwh with the change to DS4. Infact the benchmarks are identical on both. I see no obvious edge between both, other than the Ds4 being slightly cheaper that is and a hack lot more stable than the Asus cream board. The bios on this gigabyte is up to date from the default bios that came with the board. No more erroneous temp readings, strange bootup problems. Best of all the DS4 doesn't lock the CPU multiplier allowing me to o/c very easily without stressing the rams on stock voltage at 1:1. 3.1ghz can be achieved with multiplier 11 with bus speed set at 282, all voltage set to stock. The P5wdh was locked from 6-10 only. For a moment i thought the cpu was locked?! Tried the asus software on windows... pushed it to 11 and the bios reports it at 6 and pushed the cpu voltage to 1.6V upon boot up this was on 1707 under auto settings!

Its been a few days since the change. The Qx6700 is set to 3 ghz.(11x273) coupled with the thermaltake big typhoon VX temp on both CPU and board are around 45 o/c. I cannot be happier with the current setting after what i have been through. I am avoiding Asus forever.

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Dang you are persistent I would have packed it in alot earlier. Not sure if this would help you at all but it has given me a problem in the past installing new motherboards. Check to ensure the case mounting brackets for the motherboard are not shorting out spots on the bottom of the board. Other then that with what you did to try to resolve your issue. It appears it would have to be a compatitbility issue with the CPU. If I was you I would return it and get a 6600 and Overclock it and spend the difference on a better video card. I have this board and have had very few issues with it and it runs my 6600 cpu at 3.1 ghz on air no problem. Good luck.

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Yes i did alot of checkings with no luck, infact i swopped the old 945 mobo into the new casing with no issues. As i am not using the setup for games, I am happy with the 6600 video card. I did thought of the changing to the Duo core2 6600, the shop was accomodating should i need to change over. However, they too find the board could be the source and not the CPU. Having tested the 820 that hung on bootscreen with the p5wdh, I concluded after trying 4 different copies of p5wdh, I am better off with another brand of mobo. I simply wasn't convinced that either the qx6700 or the asus could be that screwed. Asus proved me wrong maybe it works just fine on the Duocore2. After 2 weeks, I have lost track of time somewhat. The DS4 allows me to o/c easily with the qx6700. I am happy at 3 ghz with 667 rams at 1:1 at stock voltage.

Hi semiskilled
Re:1803
I don't get any errors when booting up with this bios, maybe a reflash might fix yours...

Does anyone know if the Crucial 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Tenth Anniversary modules are ok with this motherboard and I can turn off the dreaded SPD and run more agressive memory settings?
ChrisC

Yesterday my OC @ 400x8 froze in Half-Life 2 which is very sensitive to oc'ing.
I used vCore 1.43 and vDim 2.1 and the rest set to auto. Now, today I'm using the same vCore and the same vDim.

changed to this instead of auto. took them a snap up from lowest.
vFSB 1.40
vMCH 1.65
vICH 1.20

Half-Life don't freeze and makes the system hang up anymore =)

Now iam wondering which made the system stable. Is there any good programs that i can test the stability of each one of them so i know which one i can lower?

Couple questions for the experts.

1) For those of you using a sound card (i.e. Creative XFi Music), how do you address the RealTek HD audio feature of this board? Is the HD audio feature of this board only for the on board sound, or does it apply to third party cards. I ended up having to install the drivers for the RealTek and then disable the HD Audio in the BIOS in order to get Device Manager to remove the exclamation mark from the RealTek on board audio. Is this the best way to handle this?

2) For those of you using an external wireless router, how do you address the on board wireless? Similar to the situation above, I had to install the drivers and then turn off the "Radio" in the software applet to get Device Manager to remove the exclamation mark from the on board wireless component. If I "Disable" the on board wireless in the software applet (which I believe would be preferable), Device Manager shows it with an exclamation point. Is just turning off the "Radio" how everyone is handling this?

Thanks for the help!

Hi rpr, the answer to your second query is that if your aren't actually using wireless then turn off usb 5/6 in the bios. If you are using wireless then all you need to install is the drivers, not run setup from the download. Just update the driver from within device manager and point it to the unzipped folder...
ChrisC

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Hi semiskilled
Re:1803
I don't get any errors when booting up with this bios, maybe a reflash might fix yours...

Does anyone know if the Crucial 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Tenth Anniversary modules are ok with this motherboard and I can turn off the dreaded SPD and run more agressive memory settings?
ChrisC

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Yeah Chris the 10th Anniversary works fine. I just purchased these from the Newegg sale and they work great:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=159097

factory81...

Finally another user who's having similar temperature readings as me!!

I did post a while back with a screeny, but at that point nobody else had seen it before!

To cut a long story short, I'm pumping 1.55v (in bios at least) through my E6700, running at 350x10. This is with a zalman 9500 and AS5 - the AS5 appears to make no difference from the standard zalman paste.

Maybe we've both got defect boards!?

Just thought I'd say you're not alone!

S

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Okay I have some very interesting news to report in my mind.

My friend has this:
Asus P5B (original, and factory BIOS)
E6400 L632A @ up to 3.55ghz w/ memory voltage limiting him on stability, or @ 3.35ghz stable (419 x 8 ) (Scythe Mine)
2GB Team Xtreme 667 @ 4-4-4-10 w/ 42 TRFC @ 2.1v
EVGA 7950GT KO
650w BFG PSU


Not only am I jealous of his memory timings given to him on the LOWEST end 965 board from Asus.

But we both have L632A's.... ( I have E6600 )
You see my signature
I have a WALL. Like a 300% wall....I just can't get past 369 x 9 no matter what. I am going to put my CPU in his machine today because not only does my CPU run hotter. But watch this screenshot of my computer running Orthos w/ Intel TAT running......
First of all my temps are pretty damn hot, one core is 4 degrees hotter at any given time it seems. I am running 1.4v on the vcore in the BIOS.

Alright now I won't post a huge screenshot, but here are the links
Before orthos.......and then while running orthos

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...5L7/before.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...15L7/after.jpg


Are these CPU reports accurate on temps? I felt my heatpipes coming out of the CPU and they feel warm....but not 85 C warm. And then I will fail orthos trying to see how low I can get the voltages and still pass orthos, go in to the BIOS and look at the cpu temp and it might be 62 C or so, meanwhile in TAT my CPU's will idle in a 79 degree room at 75 Cel, and 79 Cel

As I go in Intel's TAT options it does have on demand clock modulation in monitor mode only. And that is selected to processor....so my CPU exceeds 85 Celsius and one of my cpu's multi's goes from 9x to 5x? Because 5x369= 1860mhz.


Why does one of my core's go to 1.86ghz and the other stay at 3.32ghz while in TAT and running Orthos? Is my computer really running at these temps? I don't want to go buy a temp. gun just to find out.....

What I am finding out today is.....what my E6600 does on my friends board with my Scythe Ninja......because I think my P5W DH is messed up. I bought it used from a person who was going the 680 route because he wanted to run SLI 8800GTX's.........
Im seriously considering P5B line-up right now.....

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Since building my P5WDH/E6600 rig (see sig for detailed specs), back in August, I have periodically attempted to achieve 400 FSB, without any success. Having tried just about every permutation of clocks and voltages, I accepted that it's just not going to happen, and that at least one component in my setup is refusing to play ball. If I had to guess, I would point the finger at my memory. If that's the case, what I would like to know is which 2GB kit of PC2-6400 memory is the best for this board.

Thanks.

-phil

its probably your cpu man

anyone know what the EEPROM update for the wifi ap solo actually does/fixes?

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Since building my P5WDH/E6600 rig (see sig for detailed specs), back in August, I have periodically attempted to achieve 400 FSB, without any success. Having tried just about every permutation of clocks and voltages, I accepted that it's just not going to happen, and that at least one component in my setup is refusing to play ball. If I had to guess, I would point the finger at my memory. If that's the case, what I would like to know is which 2GB kit of PC2-6400 memory is the best for this board.

Thanks.

-phil

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I'm going to agree with Rattle that it's your cpu, i too have a week 24 and the most ive managed to reach was 392fsb and that was a suicide run which was very unstable.... Stable i can reach 3ghz on stock volts like you though. However, i doubt that the two of us can hit 400 fsb :(

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I'm going to agree with Rattle that it's your cpu, i too have a week 24 and the most ive managed to reach was 392fsb and that was a suicide run which was very unstable.... Stable i can reach 3ghz on stock volts like you though. However, i doubt that the two of us can hit 400 fsb :(

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I had one like this, it did do 400fsb barely

I can't do 3GHz with anything less than 1.35v in the BIOS. At that setting, though, it typical droops to 1.32. Anyway, I knew the week 24 A was a relatively poor overclocker, but I still figured 400 was doable with enough volts. I think I went as high as 1.6v - just for sh*tz and giggles - and it still wasn't stable. Oh well, one often pays a price for early adoption.

-phil

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I can't do 3GHz with anything less than 1.35v in the BIOS. At that setting, though, it typical droops to 1.32. Anyway, I knew the week 24 A was a relatively poor overclocker, but I still figured 400 was doable with enough volts. I think I went as high as 1.6v - just for sh*tz and giggles - and it still wasn't stable. Oh well, one often pays a price for early adoption.

-phil

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yeah mine did 3,0 on 1,35 too, i sold it

My week 26A can do 3GHz with stock voltage but now it's at 3,6GHz with 1,56v set in BIOS @ 1,53-54 real...

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Most can........in fact I'd say ALL can :)

You would have to be really unlucky to get a chip that wont ;)

Hi guys, I'm new to the forums.

I am have problems with this board.
My board stopped booting a few days ago. But has been giving me trouble for a while, windows becoming corrupt and did random reboots even when running the cpu at stock. (wasn't sure it was the motherboard at this stage)

I tried loads of things but the only thing that got it to boot was not just reset the cmos bios as normal, but to leave the battery out.

With no CMOS battery in the motherboard boots fine, I can then change setting and get into windows. Cold booting with CMOS battery in (ie some settings saved, even fail safe) and the board will not boot. I can flash the bios just fine and have tried a few different versions, which has not heloped.

So the system is only usable now with no cmos battery in and I have to setup bios each boot.

Can a faulty motherboard corrupt windows?
Has anyone seen anything like this weird boot problem before? It has me baffled.


I hope someone hear can offer some advice , otherwise I will have to try an RMA.

have you tried replacing the cmos battery with a new one?

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have you tried replacing the cmos battery with a new one?

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Yes and no luck :(

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Yes and no luck :(

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Need some information from you

What bios are you on.
How old is the MB.
What RAM are you running and what are the settings in the bios.

Topboy

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Originally Posted by semiskilled

Yesterday my OC @ 400x8 froze in Half-Life 2 which is very sensitive to oc'ing.
I used vCore 1.43 and vDim 2.1 and the rest set to auto. Now, today I'm using the same vCore and the same vDim.

changed to this instead of auto. took them a snap up from lowest.
vFSB 1.40
vMCH 1.65
vICH 1.20

Half-Life don't freeze and makes the system hang up anymore =)

Now iam wondering which made the system stable. Is there any good programs that i can test the stability of each one of them so i know which one i can lower?

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vmch at 1.65 made it stable, you can leave the others at auto

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Need some information from you

What bios are you on.
How old is the MB.
What RAM are you running and what are the settings in the bios.

Topboy

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Sorry I meant to include all that
bios = latest form the asus site 1707 , but I have also tried 1101 1402 1801(beta) 801. Even though I have this bug when I get into windows i have no problem flashing. Settings in bios are fail safe defaults, as i said I have to reset them just to get the pc to post.

The motherboard is 6 months old

full system
Asus P5W DH Deluxe WiFi (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard
Intel Core 2 DUO E6600 "LGA775 Conroe" 2.40GHz (1066FSB)
NZXT Lexa Classic Series Ultra light Aluminum Midtower
Samsung SH-S182D 18x18 DVD&#177;RW ReWriter (Black)
Connect3D ATI Radeon X1800 XT 256MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express)
Enermax Noisetaker 485W EG495AX-VE(G) SFMA ATX2.0 PSU
Scythe Ninja Plus Heatpipe CPU Cooler (Socket 478, 754, 939, 940, LGA755)
G.Skill 2GB DDR2 HZ PC2-6400 (2x1GB) CAS4 Dual Channel Kit
Western Digital Raptor 74GB WD740ADFD 10,000RPM SATA 16MB Cache