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02-26-2008, 08:12 AM
NINaudio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Alfabet

I just purchased the Asus P5K-E Wifi. The board should do fine as overclocker but unfortunatly I experience weird issues.

1. First the board wouldn't post. The GPU started with max-fanspeed but no view at all. After unplugging the main power-cord it would post again. This was 'solved' by putting the memory from auto and selecting the timings manually. Since that moment the board did post all times but it gives sometimes 'boot block' errors when posting. Seems that the bios is corrupt. When again unplugging the powercord it works again. Used the bios 1004 and 1006, both experience the same problems.

2. When I run my 4x 1GB crucial ballistic PC-8500 just at 2,3V (+0,1V) at the nominal speeds of 5-5-5-15 @1066mhz it simple crashes within the minute. How come? The only thing I can think of is that one 2GB-pair is single-sided ram and the otherone is dual-sided but would this make the system crash at those speeds?
Vcore is 1.4, rest is on auto. i'm now gonna try raising th nb voltage when i get home, but i dont think that's gonna do anything.

Basicly the question, what should I do to solve those problems?

I had the same issue you stated in #1, and for me it was a memory issue. Do you have the same problems if you're using two sticks of ram? You may just have compatability issues with using different density sticks.
02-26-2008, 10:16 AM
Mr Alfabet

Quote:

Originally Posted by NINaudio

I had the same issue you stated in #1, and for me it was a memory issue. Do you have the same problems if you're using two sticks of ram? You may just have compatability issues with using different density sticks.

I was running crucial ballistix pc8500, but it turns out that the two sets had different densities: one set was single sided, and the other was doublesided (D9GMBH). Too bad the new set was single sided, and therfore not d9gmbh. Right now i'm running with 4 single sided pc8500 sticks, borrowed from a friend, and all the problems seem to have vanished! So thank you!
Running some tests right now, prime 25.6 doesn't use all the mem and 2x prime95 does some weird things as well (1 instance runs good, the other one keeps doing the 1st test). But the boot problems are gone! :D
02-26-2008, 10:44 AM
Mordorr

OFF:

Another issue found here:

Prime95 errors, no mather what values i did put in Bios...

The guilty one?

One of my modules, Mushkin 8500 2G, is not stable anymore....:(

RMA...

Shame on you Mushkin......:shrug:
02-26-2008, 01:14 PM
Elio

Hi all
I ran BIOS 1006 and i still got quite a big vdrop
load line enabled.
bios v1.300 -WIN CPU-z v1.258-1.272 ...
other than physical mods is there anything i can do or just wait for the next bios?
02-26-2008, 02:49 PM
waynetu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elio

Hi all
I ran BIOS 1006 and i still got quite a big vdrop
load line enabled.
bios v1.300 -WIN CPU-z v1.258-1.272 ...
other than physical mods is there anything i can do or just wait for the next bios?

It is normal vdrop of 1006 for around 0.03v. Mine does the same.
The BIG VDROP will be bios v0802, 0906...0.1 vdrop, go through this you will find.
02-27-2008, 02:36 AM
victorator

Quote:

Originally Posted by NINaudio

What are you using for the the plug and play OS option in your Bios?

I'm using the default setting. Which is Plug and Play OS Disabled.
The BIOS is doing a nice job assigning IRQs and DMAs. No need for the OS to intrude.
02-27-2008, 10:01 PM
spinejam

Quote:

Originally Posted by g1raffe

What about 1002?

haven't tried it yet -- just got er stable w/ 0906. :)
02-28-2008, 06:14 AM
Draxx

Just put my new system together with the P5K-E.

Having that No POST, No beeps and with no VGA problem, just the fans spin and thats it.

Anybody have an idea what the hell is wrong, or should I just RMA it?
02-28-2008, 07:04 AM
CrazyNutz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draxx

Just put my new system together with the P5K-E.

Having that No POST, No beeps and with no VGA problem, just the fans spin and thats it.

Anybody have an idea what the hell is wrong, or should I just RMA it?

The bios is undervolting your ram (it defaults to 1.8v) not enuff to run your
ram. you'll have to put some ddr2 533, 667 in to get it to boot, and then manually set the ddr2 voltage in the bios to whatever your ram needs (maybe 2.1v) save and shutdown then put your good ram back in. when
your done with that you should be able to boot up, let me know how it
goes if it works i'll tell you how to fix it for good.
02-28-2008, 07:21 AM
NINaudio

Quote:

Originally Posted by victorator

I'm using the default setting. Which is Plug and Play OS Disabled.
The BIOS is doing a nice job assigning IRQs and DMAs. No need for the OS to intrude.

I'll have to give that a shot and see what happens...
02-28-2008, 08:15 AM
Draxx

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyNutz

The bios is undervolting your ram (it defaults to 1.8v) not enuff to run your
ram. you'll have to put some ddr2 533, 667 in to get it to boot, and then manually set the ddr2 voltage in the bios to whatever your ram needs (maybe 2.1v) save and shutdown then put your good ram back in. when
your done with that you should be able to boot up, let me know how it
goes if it works i'll tell you how to fix it for good.

I've actually just tried 2 x 256Mb DDR2 533 Kingston sticks in the board and the same happens (the ones for some Dell PC)
02-28-2008, 09:54 AM
CrazyNutz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draxx

I've actually just tried 2 x 256Mb DDR2 533 Kingston sticks in the board and the same happens (the ones for some Dell PC)

Hmm, did you check that your 12v aux (EATX12v) is plugged in the the mainboard, also
unplugg everything that is not nessary to get to post (i.e. hard drives, sound cards, cdrom, etc..), otherwise I would suggest you RMA that sucker!
02-28-2008, 10:50 AM
Draxx

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyNutz

Hmm, did you check that your 12v aux (EATX12v) is plugged in the the mainboard, also
unplugg everything that is not nessary to get to post (i.e. hard drives, sound cards, cdrom, etc..), otherwise I would suggest you RMA that sucker!

Well I put in some OCZ PC8500 SLI ready memory from a mate and what do ya know it works!

Comes with 0502 BIOS I do believe, so what version should I flash to?
02-28-2008, 10:57 AM
NINaudio

1004 or 1006 seem to be the Bios of choice right now. I'm very happy with the 1006 at the moment.
02-28-2008, 11:21 AM
CrazyNutz

Quote:

Originally Posted by NINaudio

1004 or 1006 seem to be the Bios of choice right now. I'm very happy with the 1006 at the moment.

I am too. 1004 is the latest stable bios, 1006 is the latest beta. Either one works great
02-28-2008, 11:33 AM
vocch

Finally using 1006:D ...needed tweaking in bios and now running great...but only down to having a different branded spare stick of ram which i had to mix the ram to post otherwise i'd have been stumpted.
02-28-2008, 12:01 PM
Draxx

Blloody hell, can't seem to install XP now, just keeps looping over and over again, setup is inspecting, copy files and repeat!

Never seen this before!
02-28-2008, 01:56 PM
efernan

Hi,

A quick question:

If someone has installed an Asus P5K-E/WiFi system with 4 GB of RAM (nothing too strange these days)...

How much memory do you have available in Windows XP 32-bit?

(i.e. the RAM reported by the "General" tab of "System Properties"... you know, right-click "My PC" > Properties)

Also important is to clarify which video card/s (or onboard video) are you using.

Why I'm asking?

If you install 4 GB RAM, Windows XP 32-bit will "see" from 2 GB (very extreme and rare) to around 3.6 GB depending on the expansion devices and how the motherboard maps the resources. This is solely up to the motherboards' vendors.

For example, the same exact configuration (same video cards, etc. that I need/use) on an Asus P5B Deluxe WiFi/AP only leaves 2.4 GB available for Windows XP 32-bit, while in a MSI P965 Platinum 3 GB.

I tested it in person and kept the MSI. Also the Gigabyte motherboards are very good at this (I have read reports of about 3.25-3.5 GB available) but I can't buy them where I live.

I'm considering an upgrade, but don't want to "waste" too much memory. I use every bit (no pun indeed) of RAM available. And believe me that 0.6 MB is a difference for some pro apps. The P5K-E/WiFi looks good, but I don't want to have the same problem like the P5B Deluxe WiFi/AP I bought previously. and had to replace with the MSI.

Thank you very much!
02-28-2008, 02:23 PM
vocch

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyNutz

The bios is undervolting your ram (it defaults to 1.8v) not enuff to run your
ram. you'll have to put some ddr2 533, 667 in to get it to boot, and then manually set the ddr2 voltage in the bios to whatever your ram needs (maybe 2.1v) save and shutdown then put your good ram back in. when
your done with that you should be able to boot up, let me know how it
goes if it works i'll tell you how to fix it for good.

Strangely enough it seems this is what has happened to my memory which worked perfectly with earlier bios...so how do you fix it?
02-28-2008, 02:57 PM
Elio

i'm running the board with a Q6600.
i got stuck at bus 424 it wont boot what ever i tried somtims it wont even POST.doesnt matter what multiplier i choose 6-9.
does anyone have the same problem?
02-28-2008, 04:26 PM
Xilikon

Quote:

Originally Posted by efernan

Hi,

A quick question:

If someone has installed an Asus P5K-E/WiFi system with 4 GB of RAM (nothing too strange these days)...

How much memory do you have available in Windows XP 32-bit?

(i.e. the RAM reported by the "General" tab of "System Properties"... you know, right-click "My PC" > Properties)

Also important is to clarify which video card/s (or onboard video) are you using.

Why I'm asking?

If you install 4 GB RAM, Windows XP 32-bit will "see" from 2 GB (very extreme and rare) to around 3.6 GB depending on the expansion devices and how the motherboard maps the resources. This is solely up to the motherboards' vendors.

For example, the same exact configuration (same video cards, etc. that I need/use) on an Asus P5B Deluxe WiFi/AP only leaves 2.4 GB available for Windows XP 32-bit, while in a MSI P965 Platinum 3 GB.

I tested it in person and kept the MSI. Also the Gigabyte motherboards are very good at this (I have read reports of about 3.25-3.5 GB available) but I can't buy them where I live.

I'm considering an upgrade, but don't want to "waste" too much memory. I use every bit (no pun indeed) of RAM available. And believe me that 0.6 MB is a difference for some pro apps. The P5K-E/WiFi looks good, but I don't want to have the same problem like the P5B Deluxe WiFi/AP I bought previously. and had to replace with the MSI.

Thank you very much!

Mine come with 4 Gb and under Vista 32 bits, I see 3.24 Gb of RAM (4096 - 640 from my video card).
02-28-2008, 05:29 PM
efernan

Hi again,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xilikon

Mine come with 4 Gb and under Vista 32 bits, I see 3.24 Gb of RAM (4096 - 640 from my video card).

Oh, great news!

Thank you for your input!
02-29-2008, 06:42 AM
CrazyNutz

Quote:

Originally Posted by vocch

Strangely enough it seems this is what has happened to my memory which worked perfectly with earlier bios...so how do you fix it?

Here is the problem explained:
The mobo will set the mem timings/frequency according to what the SPD
on your mem modules say. So if you have ddr2 800 4-4-4-15 the mobo
will indeed set it up to this spec, but here is the problem it will only provide
it 1.8 volts (based on the DDR2 JEDEC specification). This causes the black
screen no post because your memory manufacture (Like most performance
memory manufactures) can only provide those frequency's, and timings if
the memory is overvolted beyond the DDR2 JEDEC specification (i.e. 2.0-2.1v).

I fixed mine by modding my SPD so the mobo thinks my mem is ddr2 667mhz instead of the actual ddr2 800mhz. So If it boots up and tries to set the mem
timings/frequency/voltage automatically it will only set it to 667mhz which
works fine at the standard 1.8v. Im now able to set the timings/frequency/voltage manually in the bios to 800mhz 4-4-4-12 2.1v.

So here's how you fix it google SPDtool and DL it.
Run it, go to file, and select read (chose one of your highend mem modules)
Save this as your orig SPD
now in the bottom pane scroll down until you find:
"SDRAM Cycle time at Maximum Supported CAS Latency"
Change it to "3.00ns (333mhz)"
Save the new SPD and write it to your mem modules.

Good Luck:up:
02-29-2008, 07:02 AM
Rocket

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyNutz

Here is the problem explained:
The mobo will set the mem timings/frequency according to what the SPD
on your mem modules say. So if you have ddr2 800 4-4-4-15 the mobo
will indeed set it up to this spec, but here is the problem it will only provide
it 1.8 volts (based on the DDR2 JEDEC specification). This causes the black
screen no post because your memory manufacture (Like most performance
memory manufactures) can only provide those frequency's, and timings if
the memory is overvolted beyond the DDR2 JEDEC specification (i.e. 2.0-2.1v).

I fixed mine by modding my SPD so the mobo thinks my mem is ddr2 667mhz instead of the actual ddr2 800mhz. So If it boots up and tries to set the mem
timings/frequency/voltage automatically it will only set it to 667mhz which
works fine at the standard 1.8v. Im now able to set the timings/frequency/voltage manually in the bios to 800mhz 4-4-4-12 2.1v.

So here's how you fix it google SPDtool and DL it.
Run it, go to file, and select read (chose one of your highend mem modules)
Save this as your orig SPD
now in the bottom pane scroll down until you find:
"SDRAM Cycle time at Maximum Supported CAS Latency"
Change it to "3.00ns (333mhz)"
Save the new SPD and write it to your mem modules.

Good Luck:up:

You actually write to the memory itself?
That sounds like something that may void warrenty.
02-29-2008, 07:33 AM
Draxx

Ok no idea what I'm doing here (used AMD for the past 11 years), but priming at 3Ghz (333 x 9) only things I have changed in BIOS are PCI-E freq to 100, FSB to 333 memory to DDR2 800 and some anti v droop thing. CPU-ID reports 1.400v and the clock speed keeps dropping to 2GHz (multi goes from 9 to 6) Speed step is disabled!

So far both cores are at 43C load.

What else to I have to select do on this wintel rig to make it go faster?

Also is it an Asus feature that the power putton has to be pressed twice to post after it has been swiched off at the wall? If the power has not been cut from the wall the power button works first time.....

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