Dothan @ CT-479 - howto and fixes.

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07-17-2005, 01:53 AM
jrw

Dont have the board resting directly on the table. Use spacers or similar.
07-17-2005, 02:02 AM
jiang2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peteri

My few cents, correct me if I'm wrong.
The AGP clock might really be the case here, if you've got an ATI card that is (no problem like this with NVIDIA I've heard and also experienced). Try booting at exactly 200*12 and the clock should work.

Might relate to the problem I'm about to explain in the next answer, not sure.
There's this problem with changing multi in BIOS. It seems that the BIOS sets the FSB first and the multi a bit later. So in your case the system should be able to run at 250*(whatever your stock multi is) for a while and just then it changes it to 10. Now, 250 times the stock multi is a long shot with any PM, so I really hope there will be a solution for this in the near future (please someone inform me if there already is).

1. I TRY 200*12, THE SYSTEM TOLD ME,ONE FILE NEEDED IN START SECSION
IS DAMAGED, PLS REINSTALL. BUT ONCE I START 201*12, NO PROBLEM.
SO I THINK 200 IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR ME. BUT 201 IS FINE.
2. I ALSO AGREE WITH YOU ON THE START SCHEDULE YOU THOUGHT.
I THINK THIS IS A BUG IN BIOS, WISH WE COULD GET IMPROVED ONE LATER
3. BUT EVEN 250*10 IN WINXP, IT IS NOT STRONG AS MY 208*12.
BECAUSE WHEN I USE 208*12, RAM IS 4:5, CLOCK 260 MHZ,
BUT IF 250*10, 250 MHZ ONLY. AND 2.5G IS THE MAX OF MY PM
UNDER THIS TEMP., IF I COULD GET MUCH LOWER TEMP., SAY 10C,
I BELIEVE 2.54 IS POSSIBLE.
07-17-2005, 02:07 AM
Paxal

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Originally Posted by vegeta

Forgot to plug the powerconnector of the adapter? :D
Or didn't closed the lock of the socket with a screwdriver ? :)

Nope did both :)
07-17-2005, 02:07 AM
Paxal

Quote:

Originally Posted by stryg

Dont have the board resting directly on the table. Use spacers or similar.

Its all mounted in my case, so that is not the problem.
07-17-2005, 02:11 AM
jiang2005

I Think The Limit Of Clock In Starting Schedule Is 3.0g.
For Example, Pm 1.86g, Multi Is 14, Then When Starting,
You Can Not Pass 3000/14=214 , What Ever Multi You Are Using.
If 730 1.6g, Then The Limit Is 3000/11=272
If 740 1.73g, Limit Is 3000/12=250
I Do Not Know Whether It Is Correct. I Just Guess.
07-17-2005, 02:14 AM
vegeta

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paxal

Its all mounted in my case, so that is not the problem.

The board does boot with the Celeron? Have you checked if the bios is really flashed to the latest? :) . Cleared CMOS?
Sorry for those ridicule questions of me :p:, but I can't really think of anything else that could went wrong :slap:
07-17-2005, 02:24 AM
Paxal

Quote:

Originally Posted by vegeta

The board does boot with the Celeron? Have you checked if the bios is really flashed to the latest? :) . Cleared CMOS?
Sorry for those ridicule questions of me :p:, but I can't really think of anything else that could went wrong :slap:

That is ok, you are just trying to help me.

Yes it boots fine with the Celeron and the bios version is 023 according to boot up screen. I did clear CMOS which erased the settings, but didn't help me getting it going.
07-17-2005, 05:15 AM
Paxal

I got it to boot!!!

I read through the entire thread and found that some people are having problems with their PSU. I therefor disconnected everything and now it is booting, so I guess it was a PSU problem. Can anyone recommend a PSU since it seems I need to get a new one, it has to be low noise.
07-17-2005, 05:47 AM
jrw

I like my PowerStream 520. Never had any issues with it. If you're planning to run SLI/Crossfire anytime soon, you might need another I dont know...
07-17-2005, 06:07 AM
olDirdey

It must be something with the bios that you can boot at higher FSB. With older Bios for P4C800-E it was possible for a lot of people from hwluxx.de to boot with 300mhz and more.

With actual bios 23 you can change multiplier, but can´t boot with high fsb.

In my case maximum FSB I can boot with is 265MHz with 2.26G Dothan.

In Windows I can easily set over 300MHz, first at 325MHz the systems hangs.

I think we can fix it if there is anybody who can compare older P4C800-E Bios without multiplier option with new 23 one
07-17-2005, 11:24 AM
Paxal

Can I trust the temp readout in bios on the Asus P4C800 board, or are they totally of?

I also need RAM recommendations. I'm thinking some sticks that use TCCD chips as they don't require as high voltage as the BH5. Btw I'm from Denmark.
07-17-2005, 04:28 PM
gocchin

I'm having trouble posting with the CT-479 and a 760m in my P4c800e deluxe. The mobo will power up but no post, no video, no beeps. It will post fine with a Northwood 2.4C in there. The bios is the one bigtoe posted up here a few weeks back. I'm thinking I did something wrong with the CT-479... the jumpers are right in this pic I took for 533fsb right, 2 + 3 and 5 + 6? I am using a floppy power plug directly from my powerstream 520 (not the adapter).

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/dothan2.jpg
07-17-2005, 05:53 PM
gocchin

Quote:

Originally Posted by gocchin

I'm having trouble posting with the CT-479 and a 760m in my P4c800e deluxe. The mobo will power up but no post, no video, no beeps. It will post fine with a Northwood 2.4C in there. The bios is the one bigtoe posted up here a few weeks back. I'm thinking I did something wrong with the CT-479... the jumpers are right in this pic I took for 533fsb right, 2 + 3 and 5 + 6? I am using a floppy power plug directly from my powerstream 520 (not the adapter).

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/dothan2.jpg

Is it possible I screwed up the adapter? I originally had the jumpers on 2 + 5 and 3 + 6 rather than 2 + 3 and 5 + 6? Is it possible that shorted out the adpater?
07-17-2005, 09:59 PM
Paxal

Without being sure, I would say that it is very possible that you created a short that fried the adapter.
07-18-2005, 12:02 AM
wylxn

Quote:

Originally Posted by gocchin

I'm having trouble posting with the CT-479 and a 760m in my P4c800e deluxe. The mobo will power up but no post, no video, no beeps. It will post fine with a Northwood 2.4C in there. The bios is the one bigtoe posted up here a few weeks back. I'm thinking I did something wrong with the CT-479... the jumpers are right in this pic I took for 533fsb right, 2 + 3 and 5 + 6? I am using a floppy power plug directly from my powerstream 520 (not the adapter).

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/dothan2.jpg

try to clear the bios and use the adapter
07-18-2005, 12:28 AM
wylxn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paxal

I'm having a problem!

My Epox 8RDA crapped out on me 2 days ago, and I decided to use it as an excuse to upgrade. After surfing this forum for a while I decided that I was going to try the Pentium M. I received a brand new set yesterday with an Asus P4C800-E Deluxe, Asus CT-479 adapter and a Pentium M 730.

My motherboard came with bios version 19, so I went out and bought a cheap Celeron that I used to flash the board to the beta bios. I then changed to the Pentium M (installed with a Zalman 7700CU) and pressed the button all excited... but nothing happened. Power comes on, hdd starts up, fans are spinning and so on but it never starts booting. As if no CPU is present. I have now also tried with bios version 23, but it is the same problem.

Did I run into a non working CPU or adapter, or is there something else I can try? I'm not sure how to test if they are working.

i have the same case before. my770 die is broken .check your 730 die. maybe the same
07-18-2005, 02:47 AM
Paxal

Quote:

Originally Posted by wylxn

i have the same case before. my770 die is broken .check your 730 die. maybe the same

I got it working but thank you. It seemed that it was a PSU problem, but now everythin is running fine.

I have just started fidling with the OC, and it seems that I got one of the 730 models that cant go over around 2550MHz.

Also I cant boot over 220MHz FSB at all, but with Clockgen I can go to 250+MHz so it seems to be a bios problem.
07-18-2005, 05:35 AM
Paxal

So far the best results I'm getting are:

30sec SuperPi = 210MHz * 12 @ 2.2.2.5
31sec SuperPi = 252MHz * 10 @ 2,5.4.4.8

Both done at 1.55v
07-18-2005, 06:59 AM
bhoward

I too am having trouble getting much over 2.5g

Here is my stuff
P4P800SE with lastest BIOS
CT-479
PM 730 @ 1.6V (1.584 actual)
Corsair Twinx PC3200XL
ATI X800XT (540Core, 560Memory)
Stock Heatsink
Temp Idle = 34c, Load = 43c

I cannot boot over 210mHz

Can do in windows
12 x 211mhz (2-2-2-5)
11 x 230 (2-2-2-5)
10 x 250 (2-3-3-6)
9 x 280 (2.5-3-3-6)

Over these speeds I get reboots or hangs. Must be the CPU limit I guess.

At 9 x 280, SuperPI = 28sec, 3DMarK2001 = 32K

Will a Zalman 7000cu make a difference? Any other things I could try to get 2.7g?
07-18-2005, 07:21 AM
bhoward

Me again.

Apparently I will need longer screws to mount the Zalman 7000cu. What Size and length will I need? (ie #6-32, 3/4" long)

Thanks
07-18-2005, 09:58 AM
Paxal

I had no problem mounting the Zalman 7700CU with the stock brackets, you just turn everything upside down, and it fits very nicely.

I seem to be having some graphics problems though. Prime 95 has been running for about 6 hours with no errors, but when I try to do a 3DMark 2001 i exits the test with an error saying that "Display window lost focus". When I'm in a game it randomly pops out to Windows desktop, and I can then alt-tab back into the game. Very strange, not really sure what to do.
07-18-2005, 10:00 AM
Jericho

Sounds like GFX card driver problem
07-18-2005, 10:46 AM
charlie

The 7700 and 7000 mount very differently.

The 7000 requires you to remove the fan and rotor and flip the mounting bracket "upside down"...

The 7700 require ONLY that you use the "s" type brackets and flip them upside down when mounted on the integral mounting bracket, WITHOUT disassembing the 7700.
07-18-2005, 11:03 AM
hmsrolst

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

The 7700 and 7000 mount very differently.

The 7000 requires you to remove the fan and rotor and flip the mounting bracket "upside down"...

The 7700 require ONLY that you use the "s" type brackets and flip them upside down when mounted on the integral mounting bracket, WITHOUT disassembing the 7700.

From your, or others', experience, between the 7700 and the 7000, is there any greater risk in cracking a core? Any difference in noisiness?
07-18-2005, 12:04 PM
Paxal

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmsrolst

From your, or others', experience, between the 7700 and the 7000, is there any greater risk in cracking a core? Any difference in noisiness?

I'm very happy with my 7700CU. Easy to install and not that big a risk of cracking the core if you are just a little careful. I'm running mine at the lowest setting and it is very quiet.

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