Geforce Titan - GK110 will be a consumer part

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02-19-2013, 02:12 PM
NapalmV5

what overclocking to expect from titan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UECcmJNPkg
02-19-2013, 02:16 PM
Mungri

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Originally Posted by crash5s

I was responding to a person pointing out how much they spent on SSDs. As far as premium items go in computer components the GPU tends to be the one swapped out the soonest and most often. Especially compared to things like storage systems. It's a lot easier to justify buying the best for components that tend to stick around a long time, far more so than the one thing that tends to be upgraded the quickest.

Exactly. SSDs / HDDs / Monitor / Case generally last me until they die, apart from the case ofc which is why my case is the oldest part of my PC. Even my CPU / Mobo are still more than enough.

Graphics cards on the other hand I've been swapping out every gen for the last 7-9 gens, even my 560 Ti SLI wasnt cutting it in games without SLI support. As nice as the Titan is, there will still be a faster card in 12-18 months, no doubt about that. And already there are games that run at <40 FPS on a single GTX 680 @ 1080p.

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Originally Posted by zalbard

Otherwise 2x 670s or 690 seem like a better plan.

Yea that was my initial thought, apart from many MMOs that dont utilize multiple GPUs, but then again those run at 120+ FPS on a single 680 anyway. I really wanted to break away from SLI / Xfire and go with having a single high end GPU now though.
02-19-2013, 02:29 PM
3lfk1ng

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Originally Posted by zalbard

There's a problem.
690 is still faster in applications with proper SLI support. And it so happens that those games seem to need performance the most. :p:

IMO the best thing about Titan is VRAM amount. If you're convinced that you absolutely need [a lot] more than 2GB, it is the way to go. Otherwise 2x 670s or 690 seem like a better plan.

Unless you can afford two Titans, lol. But that's the whole different story. :p:

I completely agree. Although for some reason I am still excited to see the reviews :)
02-19-2013, 02:32 PM
Mungri

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Originally Posted by 3lfk1ng

I completely agree. Although for some reason I am still excited to see the reviews :)

The card is very exciting and good, no doubt about that, but for most people the price ruins it.
02-19-2013, 02:33 PM
mbreslin

Quote:

Originally Posted by NapalmV5

what overclocking to expect from titan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UECcmJNPkg

1123mhz gpu on reference vmax is more than enough for me, I wish they would have increased memory clocks a bit.

Depending on Thursday's benchmark results I might go reference after all.
02-19-2013, 02:49 PM
Tha Last Meal

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbreslin

1123mhz gpu on reference vmax is more than enough for me, I wish they would have increased memory clocks a bit.

Depending on Thursday's benchmark results I might go reference after all.

guru3d overclock the titan to............1176MHz.....damn :yepp:

Quote:

I mention this specifically as the Geforce GTX Titan has been designed to overclock. The AIB partners will be allowed to offer voltage unlocked SKUs. And combined with GPU Boost 2.0 you will see this product boosting towards the 1100~1150 MHz range once you tweak it. The reference clock however is 836 MHz with a boost clock of 876 MHz.

However, tweaked... we got it running at 1176 MHz my man.
02-19-2013, 02:56 PM
mbreslin

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Originally Posted by bhavv

The card is very exciting and good, no doubt about that, but for most people the price ruins it.

Titan doesn't seem to be for "most people" anyway so the price seems in line.

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Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal

guru3d overclock the titan to............1176MHz.....damn :yepp:

And that pcgh.de video that shows 1123 was on air as well. And without a voltage unlocked card. Beastly!
02-19-2013, 02:58 PM
Mungri

Don't be so quick to forget that reviewers are getting cherry picked samples.

Just like with all the reviews that showed 1300+ Mhz GK104s, and none of the three I've been through could go past 1250. Also this is the first time ever I've had two cards die so fast with only slight OCs, nothing like what the review samples and lucky peoples cards can manage.

I must have gotten 670s from a faulty batch tbh.
02-19-2013, 02:59 PM
Olivon

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Originally Posted by LordEC911

Maybe they measured the actual package while Nvidia's number is the actual physical silicon size?

You were right. They measured the package and they got 23.375mmx24.375mm within ~5mm? margin error. Carsten will maybe give his measures too.
02-19-2013, 03:03 PM
Tha Last Meal

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbreslin

And that pcgh.de video that shows 1123 was on air as well. And without a voltage unlocked card. Beastly!

I feel that Inside the Titan core will be like this When you put in your PC:D

http://www.abload.de/img/m_6abff3eaa54da1ec10emiqur.gif

Wants to kill any game:eek::D
02-19-2013, 03:17 PM
GoldenTiger

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Originally Posted by bhavv

Don't be so quick to forget that reviewers are getting cherry picked samples.

Just like with all the reviews that showed 1300+ Mhz GK104s,

My GTX 680's were good OC'ers (1200-1250) while I had them, and my Gigabyte GTX 670 WindForce 3 that I run now is stable for 24/7 gaming @ 1392c/7220m (I run it at 1372c/7110m though so it's not "on the edge" of stability). :D So, some good ones do come out in the wild too.
02-19-2013, 03:33 PM
Mungri

1200-1250 is plain average lol.

Over 1250 is like 1 / 100. Over 1300 is cherry picked or a needle in a haystack.

Titan will likely be similar, I reckon the average will be 1000-1050 Mhz on them.
02-19-2013, 03:35 PM
paulbagz

http://videocardz.com/images/2013/02...6-1200x990.jpg

DAT.

SLI BRIDGE.

OMFG.

-PB
02-19-2013, 03:36 PM
bamtan2

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

Thing is in 12-18 months, these will probably cost a fraction of what they are charging now, and there will be better cards out for half the current cost.

reality seems to contradict your theory. 7970 came out 12-18 months ago and costs most of what it did then. and it is still the fastest single chip. so that just blew up your theory.

titan will still be the fastest chip next year at this time. and it will still be worth 500-750.
02-19-2013, 03:38 PM
Mungri

^Erm no. 7970 laugh price 450+ GBP. Current price and after GK104 launched, <330 GBP.... I meant launch price, but laugh price is actually more accurate /autospellcheck win :D

^^ It looks extra nice with those corsair ram modules lurking in the background too. Shame about the fugly CPU cooler though.
02-19-2013, 03:44 PM
NapalmV5

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbreslin

1123mhz gpu on reference vmax is more than enough for me, I wish they would have increased memory clocks a bit.

Depending on Thursday's benchmark results I might go reference after all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal

guru3d overclock the titan to............1176MHz.....damn :yepp:

yah 1.2v max fan 1750mem 1.2ghz should be doable/sustainable.. or a couple of quite 120mm fans

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

Don't be so quick to forget that reviewers are getting cherry picked samples.

Just like with all the reviews that showed 1300+ Mhz GK104s, and none of the three I've been through could go past 1250. Also this is the first time ever I've had two cards die so fast with only slight OCs, nothing like what the review samples and lucky peoples cards can manage.

I must have gotten 670s from a faulty batch tbh.

you worry too much.. reviewers always lower ocs vs retails oced by forum ocers ;)

even cherry picked reviewers still lower ocs :yepp:
02-19-2013, 03:48 PM
Olivon

http://tof.canardpc.com/view/cc0c5a9...626066c0b7.jpg http://tof.canardpc.com/view/1b5444e...2d58e2dc3d.jpg

http://www.computerbase.de/news/2013...tan-gk110-vor/
02-19-2013, 03:49 PM
zalbard

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Originally Posted by NapalmV5

you worry too much.. reviewers always lower ocs vs retails oced by forum ocers ;)

Er, no... For example, both GTX 680 and 690 that were received by reviewers were among the best...

That's usually not the case with CPUs since tech process improves and people pump in silly voltages. But for video cards review overclocks are a good indication of what to expect.

Remember, many of these reviewers actually read and post on forums such as this...
02-19-2013, 03:52 PM
Mungri

Right. Both my 670s maxed at 1240 / 7200. And both died. My 680 replacement does 1228 / 7200.

Forum OCERs showing off 1300+ / 7400+ on GK104s bought Asus TOPs, MSI lightnings or Galaxy SOCs, which use cherry picked GPUs.

Unless the review states that they used cards bought at retail, they are being handed cherry picked cards always. And Hexus did a review on the 670s I had with them straight from retail, and very similar results, couldn't go past 1250.
02-19-2013, 04:15 PM
zalbard

Too bad it doesn't look like Nvidia is going to release a dual GPU Titan. From power draw perspective that seems like an easier job than GTX 590...
Then again, the price would be ludicrous.
02-19-2013, 04:18 PM
mbreslin

Admittedly I am a bit scared to really push a 1000$ card. It seems reasonable to expect ~1100mhz on water. Even if that is just "average" for XS, it's great for me. :D
02-19-2013, 04:20 PM
NapalmV5

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalbard

Er, no... For example, both GTX 680 and 690 that were received by reviewers were among the best...

That's usually not the case with CPUs since tech process improves and people pump in silly voltages. But for video cards review overclocks are a good indication of what to expect.

Remember, many of these reviewers actually read and post on forums such as this...

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

Right. Both my 670s maxed at 1240 / 7200. And both died. My 680 replacement does 1228 / 7200.

Forum OCERs showing off 1300+ / 7400+ on GK104s bought Asus TOPs, MSI lightnings or Galaxy SOCs, which use cherry picked GPUs.

Unless the review states that they used cards bought at retail, they are being handed cherry picked cards always. And Hexus did a review on the 670s I had with them straight from retail, and very similar results, couldn't go past 1250.

by all means guys get more paranoid and get interpol in there.. but dont be so quick to forget youre probably comparing open system vs closed.. idk just saying some reviewers do it on open system.. are you guys pushing max fan max voltage? any extra fan/s to help out? mobos/psus can also make the difference

look what matters is the retails and we shall see
02-19-2013, 04:25 PM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by NapalmV5

are you guys pushing max fan max voltage? any extra fan/s to help out? mobos/psus can also make the difference

I water cool everything and have a platinum rated PSU. So no, that's not it.
Also, max voltage? On a GTX 6xx series card? :p:
02-19-2013, 04:28 PM
highoctane

As far as video cards go the Titan was looking sharp as is but with that sli bridge its sharp with a set of tats!

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulbagz

http://videocardz.com/images/2013/02...6-1200x990.jpg

DAT.

SLI BRIDGE.

OMFG.

-PB
02-19-2013, 04:29 PM
NapalmV5

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbreslin

Admittedly I am a bit scared to really push a 1000$ card. It seems reasonable to expect ~1100mhz on water. Even if that is just "average" for XS, it's great for me. :D

1300-1400 easy on liquid.. and if it refuses theres a couple a mods that could take it to 1500 by force

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