the q9650 isn't going to get a pricecut. they are stopping production this quarter at some point and the price of the chip is only going to go up after that :\
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the q9650 isn't going to get a pricecut. they are stopping production this quarter at some point and the price of the chip is only going to go up after that :\
These Q9650s are great although if mine were to die I'd most likely go for the i7 920 for wider video card choice/combos. But in the event the Q9650 gets a significant price cut then I may still consider it...the chip is fantastic
Else I'll sit tight until the next gen i7s are released :yepp:
Oh really?Quote:
Hmmm it seems noone has managed to get these bad boys 4.3Ghz stable on a x48 mobo...
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...hz15runIBT.jpg
:up:
I accidently closed Realtemp in above pic but load temps got to mid 70's in my bedroom, heating was on :( Cores 2 and 3 don't drop below 39 and 40 respectively either but generall run 1-2c hotter than cores 0 and 1
My 3d Mark 06 run:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...h_3dMark06.jpg
However failed prime small overnight last night after about 5 hours on one core, nudged vcore to 1.39375 this morning but yet to re-run, very close to full stableness :)
Here are my settings for my Rampage Extreme:
Processor: Q9560
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 490
CPU Clock Skew: Delay 200ps <--- these got me stable at 4.41
NB Clock Skew: Delay 100ps <--- these got me stable at 4.41
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
DRAM Frequency: DDR3 - 1569MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: 7-7-7-18 1N
Common Performance Level: 8
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled
Static Read and Static Write Disabled
Stronger Performance Level
PCIE Frequency: 100
CPU Voltage: 1.39375 <--- just upped this morning to this
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40
DRAM Voltage: 1.9
North Bridge Voltage: 1.63
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10
CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1):-45mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3):-45mv
NB GTL Reference: +50mv
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto
very nice mate...what vid is your Q9650 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulyD
Cheers
Sergio
1.2375 is the VID. Its Devious's old chip :)
However I can go to 495fsb and that work ok but as soon as i try for 500x9 mobo gets stuck on DET DRAM no matter what trd settings i use, haven't really gone into this much as have been working on getting this 4.41Ghz for 24/7 use :up:
use DRAM Skews mate, start on 50ps delay, that's how i put my gskills on 1267Mhz 2x2GB stable PL8 and 1200 PL7Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulyD
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: 50ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: 50ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: 50ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: 50ps
Congrats amazing chip, mine's just 1,25vid
Sergio
So far so good. You mentioned you ran Prime Small overnight im assuming you mean small FFTs? Can you please run Prime Blend if you don't mind?Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulyD
But lookin good so far :clap: And another thing, are you watercooling the chipset? Reason is my chipset is aircooled and I want to know if I should even bother going for 4.3+...
Mine so far is at 4.275Ghz 1.38v (1.25VID). Oh and I sold my dominators so I'm using my mediocre Corsair 1333Mhz DDR3 2x2gb for now and have not fiddled with timings etc yet
25 run IBT:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9...nibtstanl8.jpg
1 Hour Prime Blend:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1...hrstablcl0.jpg
THANK YOU Leefhoof.
Yes I'm happy with my setup.. and yes it does 4.205 Ghz STABLE.. so ya, if I got another board.. and spend $200 dollars, maybe, maybe I could get 4.3 or 4.4 Ghz.. but really. what is 200mhz going to do for me that my 750 FTW at 4.205 Ghz Can't.. get a few points in a benchmark. Not :banana::banana::banana::banana:!
I have mentioned a few times that I wouldn't mind a new board, but I've never said that it was a great board. I've only mentioned that it's done it's job Well for me. and for him to Continuously call my setup a POS, and that talking to me is like a Brick Wall is just a little insulting. I've listened to him. and simply stated how my board has performed. Yes there may be better boards. but for the SMALL.. SMALL increase i "Might" get. it's simply not worth it. I don't care what board I use, I'm not going to get anywhere near 4.5 or more like Napalm and others have. I'm not that extreme. then he started getting all defensive about my system being junk, ya the board isn't that great. but it's not a complete POS. and a waste either. For you to say the CPU is a complete Waste in this board is just retarded. When I'm hitting 4.2 Stable with no problems, or hard work. thats not a waste. like I said above in this post. if I spend $200 and got a better board, plus more $$ for DDR3 I'd maybe, maybe get to 4.4 Ghz, at most.. maybe more if I'm lucky.. and that small increase isn't worth $200-$300 bucks to me, but for him to just start attacking my system and bashing it just because he has personal hate towards Nvidia is just stupid.
Nice work there kill a wat. Nice oc so far. See he is on a X48.. with H20, and only at 4.275.. and I'm doing 4.205 Ghz stable on Air with my "Junk" board.
Anyways I'm done, thanks for your Kind input on other motherboard options. oh and Nice work there Pauly D. thats pretty good also.
Tried going from 25ps through to 100ps both delay and advance but still stuck on DET DRAM :(Quote:
use DRAM Skews mate, start on 50ps delay, that's how i put my gskills on 1267Mhz 2x2GB stable PL8 and 1200 PL7
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: 50ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: 50ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: 50ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: 50ps
To be honest I can get the basics of overclocking down fine but its the tweaking at the top end that eludes me :rolleyes:
Sorry i should have said before, got my CPU and NB under water in the same loop (PA120.3, Fuzion V2, EK NB block, DDC 18w with alphacool top and single bay res)Quote:
But lookin good so far And another thing, are you watercooling the chipset? Reason is my chipset is aircooled and I want to know if I should even bother going for 4.3+...
Mine so far is at 4.275Ghz 1.38v (1.25VID). Oh and I sold my dominators so I'm using my mediocre Corsair 1333Mhz DDR3 2x2gb for now and have not fiddled with timings etc yet
BTW in your blend test i believe you have the TJ Max set wrong for the Q9650, its 95c i believe not 100c - someone correct me if im wrong :)
It was small FFT's i was testing. Before it used to always fail blend within the first self test but since putting in the CPU and NB skews it passed 2 self tests. Went to try IBT and BSOD, upped voltages on CPU and NB and did the 15 run test above. Left it doing the small FFT overnight and was going to do blend tonight if it passed but failed after about 5 hours, will blend it once CPU has passed priming ok though have been on PC all day and not had any crashes or issues (so far!)
for 475x9 i needed 1.352 load so your really not far off this chip at all :up:
Give 4.3 a go and tweak it from there, what are your temps like on your chipset?
Must say thanks to a lot of people in this thread as well, wouldn't have got half this far without your input as have been lurking in the background!! :clap:
Xguntherc - thanks and i completely agree with you, if your happy with the performance and its rock stable and what you want then why change?? 4.2ghz is not to be sniffed at whatever board its in!
Xguntherc 4.2 is fine by my standards :up:
To be frank i'm very pleased with what I'm on now and will leave it. Since my chipset is on air if I set my NB volt anything above 1.35v it fails prime blend... I can't see the temps as I'm using a P5E3 Premium x48 unlike Rampage Extreme (which I was considering a while back) :)
Oh and my TJMax on Real Temp is set to 100 which I believe is correct. My watercooling on my CPU is very average or needs a service/check up LOL :)
yes, the TJ Max is supposed to be at 100c for these chips.. so thats correct.
Yea. I'm happy with 4.2 I run 24/7 on 4.0 Ghz and I bench with a easy to switch to profile with 4.205 Ghz settings, then bench there. I've actually never tried for farther.. So I'm thinking I could. After all i have a stronger PSU now, better ram. and my air temps at 4.0 are only 30c give or take 1c on each core.
oh and thanks for backing me up. :)
Thanks, just checked and is indeed 100c, my mistake! :rolleyes:Quote:
yes, the TJ Max is supposed to be at 100c for these chips.. so thats correct.
I was really happy with getting to 4.275ghz, though i was always so close to getting 4.4 under "safe" voltages that it kept making me go for it.
Currently done about of hour of blend fine (still running now) will update shortly.
Maybe the PSU thing is a myth, sorry Napalm, but i'm running this rig (in sig) with my water setup (DDC 18w) 4 cathodes, 5x120mm fans and 2x92mm fans on a coolermaster realpower 620w PSU, though everest reports it still has 12.10v on 12v rails ;)
EDIT: here is 3 hour prime blend stable - got bored and played some CSS after this long :D
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...3hourblend.jpg
Nice work.. at only 1.38v.. whats ur vcore set to in the bios?
Good stuff mate. I knew you'd get it. Oh and managed to get some stability with 4.3 :)
25 run IBT so far....I'll tweak it here and there gotta get back to Mass Effect!
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/725...hzstabldp3.jpg
oh and somewhere in this Thread over the last few days I remember someone saying they were looking for a Q9650 that was a good deal. I have found a slightly used one for sale if anyone's interested. for $410 and he's hit 4.2 with ease.
oh and question. a guy is trying to sell me a used Q9550. and he says the VID is 1.1750.. thats a really low VID. is that legit. or are they not that low? maybe he had speedstep on or something. or are some that low?
VID doesnt matter, just how the cpu clocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by xguntherc
well i know that.. but the VID matters a little. he has it at 3.8 Ghz now, and said he hit that his first try, and never went higher. He's sort of a noob also.
A small variance in VID like the one above is no big deal for me personally. Main thing is cooling the chip and the general overclockability of it and boy do these Q9650s overclock well :D
But its good to see a 4.4Ghz on an x48 I have been searching everywhere and could not find one with Prime Blend screenshots. Thanks PaulyD :up:
I guess P45s are not the only boards capable of bringing out the high potential of these chips. Oh a friend sold me his Corsair HX1000 so I'll plug that into my system soon and see if that helps any. I've heard good things about these HX1000s...
Cheers guys,
I left it running Prime small FFT's to retest the nudge in the vcore and passed practically 10 hours of it:
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...0hoursmall.jpg
Bios has vcore set to 1.39375, it idles at 1.384 and loads at 1.4v. The LLC on this board is amazing. If i set 1.4v in bios it idles at 1.4 and loads at 1.408!?!Quote:
Nice work.. at only 1.38v.. whats ur vcore set to in the bios?
Just need to do a long blend test but highly confident this is stable at this now :)
Nice results there Kill a Wat :up:
Let me get a few things STRAIGHT.
1) @ Leeghoofd, I did NOT say you were blind, I DID ask "are you blind", so it was a question.
:)
2 ) @ xguntherc, I did NOT say your set up is a POS, I DID state the NF6 and NF7 Mobos are POS, not the same thing.
:rolleyes:
well 1.39 is still pretty good there man. Nice work. I've been meaning to try for something higher on my board. but I've been busy. I'll do it I swear.
and no worries humey.. maybe you just came across a little different/harsh to us then you thought you did. No worries!
@PaulyD - your pretty much stable from what I can see. Normally after 3 hours blend its all smooth sailing :up: Although I have had mine bog at 7hours 57minutes before :eek::( .
if I can run prime for over 3 hours I call it good and don't worry about it... or if I can run mark06, and vantage, and a SuperPI 16M run then I'm ok.
It's official Intel will cut prices on this CPU too !!! ow joy 316 dollars
Intel price cuts
Out goes the E8500, in the Q9650 pure folding powaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Leeghoofd mate, don't hurt feelings in here. :) Seriously, 40% price cut is a hell of a deal. My 9550 is going to the bay soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd