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05-10-2007, 05:21 AM
korda

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Originally Posted by bloodbanger

why didn't he use a 8800Gts 640mb?It seems to me that that card is the one 2900XT is competing against?

He probably didn't have one. :rolleyes:

I'm so damn tired of scores in 3dcrap by now, show us what the damn card can do in games instead. :cool:
05-10-2007, 05:29 AM
cantankerous

The card does well but only when overclocked to max overdrive. I wasnt impressed until be broke 10k in 06 and even that needed 860 on the core and 900 on the memory. That says nothing about how it does in actual games either. If all cards are guaranteed to do max overdrive that is great but what if your card is weak and falls short. You are losing performance right off the bat that is needed to stay high.
05-10-2007, 05:35 AM
wickedld9

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Originally Posted by Shintai

And Vista is also a bad test, since nVidias drivers is abit behind there.

LMAO! Thanks for the laugh, what a terrible argument. G80 has been shipping for 6 months and you're saying "oh don't compare on Vista cuz Nvidia is behind." The test was completed with Beta drivers from ATI on a card that isn't released to the public yet vs NVIDIA's shipping drivers and product. :stick:
05-10-2007, 05:40 AM
Shintai

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Originally Posted by wickedld9

LMAO! Thanks for the laugh, what a terrible argument. G80 has been shipping for 6 months and you're saying "oh don't compare on Vista cuz Nvidia is behind." The test was completed with Beta drivers from ATI on a card that isn't released to the public yet vs NVIDIA's shipping drivers and product. :stick:

Its no secret ATI/AMD spend alot more time on Vista drivers and knowhow. When MS told the GPU makers to start, ATI relatively quickly followed. While nVidia was busy playing with quad sli drivers. Hell, G80 was even launched and didn´t have a Vista driver before what? 3 months ago?
05-10-2007, 05:49 AM
AbelJemka

So to conclude we can't compare R600 and G80 on Vista coz they both use experimental drivers:D
05-10-2007, 05:55 AM
bloodbanger

NEW review,looks more thrust-worthy than the previous ones!
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...n_HD_2900_XT/1
05-10-2007, 06:28 AM
mascaras

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ATI HD 2950XT scheduled for Q3

To save the lousy year

We already wrote about the ATI HD 2950XTX card based on R650, the 65 nanometre chip scheduled for Q3 2007 here.

There will be one more high end card based on the 65 nanometre chip that is likely to replace the soon to be launched Radeon HD 2900XT cards. The new 65 nanometre core codenamed R650 based card will be known as ATI Radeon HD 2950XT. This is the slower revision of the R650 core.

We hope for DAAMIT's sake that they will manage to launch these R650 based cards in September / end of Q3, but how can you put your trust in roadmaps from a company that delayed every single chip this year.

The Nvidia G90 should be ready around the same time, but we have very little information about shrinked version of the G80 chip.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...916&Item id=1

:thumbsup:
05-10-2007, 06:35 AM
Gambit_2K

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Originally Posted by bloodbanger

NEW review,looks more thrust-worthy than the previous ones!
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...n_HD_2900_XT/1

Did you copy any text from the review? It's seems to have been taken down already.
05-10-2007, 06:41 AM
eXceeded

I found some info from an unknown source...

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Originally Posted by unknown source

http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/vga.jpg
05-10-2007, 06:47 AM
bloodbanger

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Originally Posted by Gambit_2K

Did you copy any text from the review? It's seems to have been taken down already.

no sorry,didn't realise it could be taken down this fast:(
05-10-2007, 07:31 AM
mascaras

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Originally Posted by Gambit_2K

Did you copy any text from the review? It's seems to have been taken down already.

>>> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=811

The review was taken down because they ask ppl not to leak anything from the review

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"We signed an nda for this - if you leak we will get sued

regards
05-10-2007, 07:38 AM
perkam

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Originally Posted by fornowagain

8800GTS Stock
[URL=http://imageshack.us]ATI Overdrive MAX OC
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8...xeditedbi9.jpg

Now that GTS is getting spanked.

I'm afraid on air cooling, we see only 50% of the HD 2900's performance. Once you switch to watercooling, you'll see increases in core clock speeds exceeding 500mhz above stock. (Well into four digits)

Perkam
05-10-2007, 07:50 AM
ownage

:( ok, perkam
05-10-2007, 07:58 AM
Periander6

Yet more confirmation of what we've been hearing from it-review, Kyle, Dailytech, Fuad ect., again from a normally pro-AMD source.

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39526

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The card goes tit for tat with the GeForce 8800 GTS, winning some and losing some in a vaguely equal proportion, whilst coming in at the same price point. DAAMIT is hoping the DRM infection of HDCP and HDMI will be a selling point, but don't count on it.

It goes on to make some fairly harsh assessments.
05-10-2007, 08:01 AM
perkam

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Originally Posted by Periander6

Yet more confirmation of what we've been hearing from it-review, Kyle, Dailytech, Fuad ect., again from a normally pro-AMD source.

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39526

It goes on to make some fairly harsh assessments.

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

Wait for launch day. Future drivers will make its performance much higher than it is today, overclocking will be simply amazing on this card with the right cooling...heck i'm sure we'll see after market bios for the card running at much higher core and mem.

Perkam
05-10-2007, 08:03 AM
Revv23

What i wonder is if it will beat the GTX both cards are maxed out... seems from what im hearing it wont, but hey maybe that means price war. :woot:
05-10-2007, 08:05 AM
korda

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Originally Posted by perkam

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

Wait for launch day.

So close this thread then and open it on monday at 3 PM CET. :toast:
05-10-2007, 08:16 AM
Shintai

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Originally Posted by perkam

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

Wait for launch day. Future drivers will make its performance much higher than it is today, overclocking will be simply amazing on this card with the right cooling...heck i'm sure we'll see after market bios for the card running at much higher core and mem.

Perkam

How much performance increase have we got on the 8800 since launch till now under XP?

I wouldn´t count on a driver miracle...
05-10-2007, 08:18 AM
perkam

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Originally Posted by korda

So close this thread then and open it on monday at 3 PM CET. :toast:

Are you telling me how to mod the news section? :D

Perkam
05-10-2007, 08:18 AM
Revv23

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Originally Posted by perkam

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

Wait for launch day. Future drivers will make its performance much higher than it is today, overclocking will be simply amazing on this card with the right cooling...heck i'm sure we'll see after market bios for the card running at much higher core and mem.

Perkam

lol perk i am just as big as an ati fan as you are but it's clear this card is not going to be the new king of the hill - even kinc and sampsa have said so.

But what it might be is the new value king, coming in at $500 and allowing sick overclocks this could be one of the most fun cards to come out in a long time. Especially if it is responsive to cooling, all of us will have fun making our own coolers and such - overclocking skills will once again come into play - even on air. I for one am very excited for the experience.
05-10-2007, 08:21 AM
perkam

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Originally Posted by Revv23

lol perk i am just as big as an ati fan as you are but it's clear this card is not going to be the new king of the hill - even kinc and sampsa have said so.

But what it might be is the new value king, coming in at $500 ..

$400 ;)

I'll agree it won't revolutionize gaming fps, but the ORB will have rattled when members use two of these in crossfire for benchmarking purposes.

In benchmarks, the HD 2900 will be a tremendous successor to the X1950XTX, it will be leaps and bounds ahead in most benchmarks...which is all i can say.

Perkam
05-10-2007, 08:24 AM
XeRo

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Originally Posted by Revv23

but it's clear this card is not going to be the new king of the hill - even kinc and sampsa have said so.

They said that?
05-10-2007, 08:28 AM
korda

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Originally Posted by perkam

Are you telling me how to mod the news section? :D

Yeah, you could use some pointers. :p:
05-10-2007, 08:40 AM
Tim

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Originally Posted by perkam

In benchmarks, the HD 2900 will be a tremendous successor to the X1950XTX, it will be leaps and bounds ahead in most benchmarks...which is all i can say.

Not really lol, go to tweakers.net and see those Farcry screenshots from the PU review. j/k :D

We'll see, overclocking should indeed be fun. :)
05-10-2007, 08:42 AM
Xion X2

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Originally Posted by perkam

I'm afraid on air cooling, we see only 50% of the HD 2900's performance. Once you switch to watercooling, you'll see increases in core clock speeds exceeding 500mhz above stock. (Well into four digits)

Perkam

A 500mHz increase in overclock just with water? Surely you must be joking.

Unless you're talking about a volt-mod and some other hardcore revisions to go along with it. (which leads me into my next question--will you be able to volt-mod these cards through software again, you think? Like the 1900-series?)

How do you get this? Again, I'm sincerely curious since I'm looking seriously at getting the card to see what it can do on my water setup.

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