It's only good for 05 3d wise, and a little behind the times on that now also.Quote:
Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
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It's only good for 05 3d wise, and a little behind the times on that now also.Quote:
Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]=
It will be interesting to see if you can top Mr. Linuxfan's good SB 05 scores with your 980 - what about AM3?Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Confused,Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveRo
Compare again ;)
http://www.hwbot.org/community/submi...70_51022_marks Linux's fastest 05 run? 570
http://www.hwbot.org/community/submi...80_51049_marks Sandy sucks....... 580 wrong os no tweaks crap settings
http://www.hwbot.org/community/submi...80_52063_marks Gulftown........ 480 on air less clocks than all card wise no tweaks crap settings
I might add that theres a little more self satisfaction from doing results with gulftown, after all my grandmother can't beat me on gulfy.......sandy well thats a diff story ;)
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I am looking forward to seeing your 6.0ghz run with high uncore with the 980x+580 so we can get a better comparison...
LN2 on the GPU doesn't help much...
I didn't get a good score with a 580 yet as you see... I think I could manage 52k but after that I'm pretty limited by my 5.600ghz CPU...
Zen's 5.8ghz SB compared to your 980x full blast would be interesting :yepp:
i is no good at 3d. wouldnt be that interesting tbh, chew would win hands down. even if we were to bench the same exact rig under the same condidtions, i cant compete with the amount of experience and expertise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Linuxfan
Nah 5.8 would catch my gulfy, I'd lay money on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
There is only so much you can do after that your at the mercy of shear clocks.
To explain further here's a score breakdown.....
Your score steve.
GT1 181.5 mostly system based performance
GT2 135.2 GPU + driver + clocks + LOD
GT3 374.1 <----gpu clock + LOD
My score on gulfy No lod no tweaks lesser card lesser clocks makes GT2 + 3 pointless to compare so
GT1 187.1 without maxxed out settings.
That about sums it up for me, it's really all about understanding score breakdown.
Then I need to account for the fact that of the 2 boards worth benching I have both have nf200 latency hits which most people forget to take into consideration when comparing effec ;)
So I have both UD4 and UD7, all things equal UD4 should score higher due to no nf200?
In the noise or something significant?
Also - "after all my grandmother can't beat me on gulfy" - I am male and not a grandparent (yet). :)
Mr Chew - The good Linux score with Sandy is yet to come, he posted a trial run last night - my confusion - not 05 but in 03 - my bad.
Yep had 30min so decided to do a session and knock out a quick run... ran GPU up with the max volts I have in Inspector(1.21v) and did three runs last one pushed temps down to -160oC no problems. After that run I checked and the GPU runs down to -180oC, almost CB free. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveRo
Gotta get Afterburner working so I can add a little more voltage and I think 1200 core will be easy with this card.
BTW guys just tested Heaven with LN2 and got a horrible score, but on air now and finally found my performance issue. Will do LN2 again in an hour or so. :D
Just got X1752 with 943/1149mhz and 2600K@stock :up:
Looking good young master!Quote:
Originally Posted by Linuxfan
No I meant it seriously, not directed at anyone in particular.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveRo
It's not hard to jack a multi and voltage......Quite frankly except for like 2 benches thats 95% of a result on sandy.
Nf200 has a latency hit bottom line, it always cost something performance wise with single card.
Looks like I can't afford to bench for a while...........
Was woken up at 3 am by police to ask us where our car was..........
Our reply well we hope it's outside......
Nope it's in Cranston stuck to another car was the officers reply...
It appears some kids stole it last night and crashed it got caught and are walking the streets already......they better hope I don't find out who they are.....
Anyway, I can't afford a car right now nor benching, Insurance was just liability and uninsured motorist ( must have in R.I. ) so I'm preety screwed.....
I could fix it but not worth it......I paid 1300 ( cheap ) becasue it needed a front frame welded in......it appears it needs the same frame + everything else now.....cost would be more than i paid for car including air bags, dashboard, and windshield..........
Sucks as that was my transportation to work, can't get to work now and in my line of business a bus is out of question.......I drive truck on short notice and usually have to be there with no heads up in 10min to drive a truck.........
Hard to buy a new car when you can't work......:shakes:
That sucks Brian. Sorry to hear this man :(
Had poor luck today myself. Employer refused to put me on the books for the last two months since I started.
Owner started shorting my pay only giving me 40 hours pay when Id work near 50 some weeks.
So I told him I would be needing to take a day off mid week in order to stay at 40 hours and get paid for my work.
Seems like a fair concept right?:shrug::rolleyes:
Fired and out of a job again. I'll have some time to bench but only the stuff I have already and will likely need to sell off soon.
I love my hardware:(
Sorry to hear Brian AND Slaveondope :down:
I think my problems are slightly different.........
Judging from the tow yard it seems maximas are a popular car to steal........4 cars in yard.....all maximas.....
Both involved stealing.....
Maximas are popular to steal because they aren't difficult to get into.
Maybe you can buy two of them from the lot and put together one decent ride:shrug:
I'll be drinking some whiskey tonight, what are you having chew?:toast2:
We should start a Chew* fund... $30 and 50 people... back on some wheels and back to work...
And back to benching... :D
Hope you figure something out man! :up:
Hanging with some old friends tonight ( the kind that have a rep ) doing a little research.....If i drink someone would be dead, best if i stay sober ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by slaveondope
Feeling like a little street justice. Someone caved in the front nose of my car so I'm feeling like caving in there face, nice thing is word on streets travel fast, kids these days brag when they do :banana::banana::banana::banana:, not like the oldschool guys who if they did :banana::banana::banana::banana: no one would ever know.
As far as being same it's really not.
Back in the day someone stole your "ride" which way back was a horse it was a hanging offense.
However if they robbed you it was just jailtime.
Losing your job or money, you still have wheels to get another job.
I no longer have the wheels to get to a job I already have.
Sucks to hear the news. Hope both of you get things resolved sooner rather than later.:)
f(l)ucking worst, little miscreants:shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Well if you need any carfaxes run I have an account and I have paid for 5 and only run 1 I got you buddy, you need to hop on craigslist or a local car forum and find a new beater that is still good on gas:up:
Moved my chillers out of the closet and onto a cart.
Insulated the chillers, res and tubing.
Insulated the block after these shots :)
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VVV Tried to cool the 580 with regular water ice – no go – ice melted before I could get thu one successful heaven run. :( Need dice! :)
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Chew and Slave - just read your posts - sorry to hear (see!) that!
Chew - you have pm sir.
Love the pictures Steve!
Ran out of ice before a heaven run :ROTF:
Go for DICE! :up:
Setup looks good Steve:up:
Can't really tell from the pictures but whats chilling the water?
2x coolit boreas in series, 12 TECs/boreas, all air cooled - :D -Quote:
Originally Posted by MTP04
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=217758
Oh Brian, I'm sorry to hear that.... That sucks. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
SteveRo has made his first DICE run, please check it out! :up:
do u want me to come to ur team?
Do you want to join our team:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiltevros
We'd be glad to have you:welcome:
Isn't he already on? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by slaveondope
http://ro.hwbot.org/community/user/tiltevros
i was away for 2 weeks :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Linuxfan
now im back again with new submissions ;) check them out ;)
i manage to unlock my 5870 Vapor X ver.2 and gain some scores :D but im afraid to go ferther 980 core 1309Vram and 1.180Volts :S any ideas?
triple post yeahhhhh
does the Trixx utility works with 4850 series??? anyone???
Stop being afraid and lets see what 1.3 vcore can do. 1060mhz+?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiltevros
i am on stock cooling :D not on LN2 anyone for live ??
im trying 990@core and 1309@Vrams 1.190Volts to see what will happen
Around 1050 core with around 1.3v should be possible on stock cooling. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiltevros
so i set from 980 to 1050 with 1.3Volts?
Vram???
stable test with 3dmarkVantage @ 990 with 1309Vram @ 1.195Volts
Lets take this over PM, you're spamming the team thread :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiltevros
Welcome back Tiltevros! :up:
Good job Tiltevros, but you're not finished yet! 5870s eat 1,35 V on air for breakfast, they need more jiggawatts :cool:
yeah i need some cpu's for more speed
im waiting PCmark7 to rule ;)
ive manage to break 1Gb/s in every test in PCmark Vantage :D but im having bottleneck from my cpus :D lol??
:party: :party: :party:
Dude, that's a WR worthy storage setup! You should get a good CPU and some LN2 and get the PCMark05 wr back for us!
well he is gonna need a pair of them since he is rocking the sr2:DQuote:
Originally Posted by G.Foyle
new PCmark Vantage score in 8xcores :D No.5 on world records when it will checked :D
Much congrats to Mr. Tilt - storage master!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiltevros
I can see I need more lessons from you! again!
Huge storage scores! Well done! :clap::clap::clap:
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Nice scores everyone!
A special congrats to the PCLab.pl team for taking down the GTX 280 Aquamark 3 record! :up:
Mucho congrats to the young master Mr Linuxfan - #1 for the team! :clap::clap::clap:
Lots of hardwork and finally a little luck pays off! :yepp::up:
Way to go MTP04! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
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:up:
+1 to that! Awesome runs. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
Alright Mr MTP - lookin good!
Nothing like a row of golden cups in the morning :up:
Thanks guys!:)
It was a fun card to bench, especially when at subzero temps, and a card I wanted bench for a long time now.
One of my goals have been completed and now its on to the next one.:p:
Awesome runs MTP04:clap:
Addressing some efficiency issues, how much more can I expect?
Your over a minute slow for your clock speeds + tweaks.Quote:
Originally Posted by slaveondope
QPI and uncore are the key here, you need more bclk and more QPI MHz.
Ditto... :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Linuxfan
Progress, need more Uncore.Quote:
Originally Posted by G.Foyle
Progress is good. Is that on air? You will need some cold for proper uncore clocking.
Ya air, 4.2ghz 1.525v for uncore is max it looks plus the voltage is already uncomfortable, dice sometime tomorrow:up:, too poor for SS's and LN2:(Quote:
Originally Posted by G.Foyle
Thats an ASUS, which ram divider are you using and how about a screenshot of your cpu config in bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by slaveondope
We have a massive drop in points, does anyone know what happened? :(
nvm, Marco left.
Welcome back \/ENDE][A! :) :welcome:
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Actually I meant Marcolecorse, but thanks for letting us know anyway.
No need to delete your post Marco André! ;)
No need to be here if it was out of context, right? :up:
Great to be back. Should be benching again by the weekend:up:. I have a lot of gear incoming. God i`ve missed this.
WTF happened, we lost 300 points again?! :( :confused:
OC forums is right on our arse:shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
I'll get the 670 under the pot this weekend got side tracked with some stuff:rolleyes:
chew* isn't participating in pts now..:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
Yeah, I noticed that now.
@slaveondope: That's the spirit! :up:
Got a 56x 2600K that's supposed to do 5694mhz@0oC... tested on SS and it will not post 56x in even barely subzero temps or be stable at subzero so I think its one of those ambient chips. Hope it runs fine on air or water.
Got some global points to knock out also when I get the 2600K running I"ll knock the 3870X2 3dm05 from Mr. Redcobra :D
Going to bin through three kits of the G.Skill 2133 8-9-8 memory and test 32M when I find time... :up:
Chew* not a part of our team anymore?:confused: WTF is going on?
Temporary fix till either hwbot fixes the no points button and it applies to all points or I manually edit every single submission for no points.Quote:
Originally Posted by MTP04
As for my choice to go pointless, Points don't = skill. Until there is accurate way to measure skill by points ( chances of that slim to never ) than I personally feel that Points are pointless, so why not roll pointless.
Getting back to the real reason why I OC, because I enjoy it and not letting some points algorithym due to popularity or global value dictate what I bench hardware wise such as intel.....
I might add my financial position has changed drastically ( as if it wasn't bad enough to begin with ) recently so atm i need to focus on whats important right now, atm that means the real world and my family.
Brian, I totally see where you are coming from and support you 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Overclocking should be fun and not about points but at the same time a lot of us have do not had all that experience and those points drive us to push ourselves to do better.
Without all of us contributing points then what is the "point" of having a team in the 1st place? Do you want to drop out of the team and just sit back and push us like a coach? Can you be the coach?
I wouldnt toss all those points and hard work down the drain for the team relies on it. why not just leave them and opt out of points for future submissions from this day forward? whatever your decision we will respect and support you.
The problem is there is so much wrong with the system it's impossible to fix, the only way to truly fix it is to buck the system so to speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
You have manufacturers seeding binned ES chips, note the fact that i use the word binned becasue ES chips by themselves are not the entire issue.
You also have them doing it with retails as well.
Thats just the CPU side of things, lets not talk about users going to intel to bin through trays of High Leakage ES chip's which are a problem compared to the run of the mill ES, especially when you couple the fact that the high leakage parts can never ever ever be bought in retail due to TDP screening.
We won't even talk about the rest of the hardware tree.
You have endusers buying prebinned chips from other ocer's, where is the skill in that ( especially with sandy ). So now even though it may not be the same team you are still combatting the same exact chip in the same hardware class only multiple times and to be quite frank yes skill is required to get the top score out of sandy but there is also a bare minimum score that is guranteed regardless of skill level.
These are just a couple examples of what is "wrong" with the "game"
One of the bigger problems now is that people are so focussed now on the result acchieved and far less on how the result was acchieved.
Example.
Manufacturer 1 sends a few prebinned chips along with a board.
Users posts and hits a few WR's.
Crowd response is wow, congrats, lucky chip.
What would the response be if you knew the entire story behind the result?
solution. Make hw bot create a new category for ES. make them add a line for the cpu serial for everyone else. if someone make a submission with the same id they will get the result with no points. before you bench you simply write your chip serial down. this is the perfect time for this brian because of the new hw bot ver is almost out. maybe its time to add a few things so we dont have asset members like you dropping out. I always thought ES should have its own category. and the sandybridge thing is totally ridiculous. its out of hand. thats what happens when you cant run cold on a chip. You have everyone doing a bunch of trading with the same lucky cpu's and you have a mess. screw SB. its the cpu that the devil invented. that thing is evil.
if hwbot is going to be the points database then there needs to be stricter enforcement on submissions. and those shared chips should be monitored somehow. like carfax works in the US. when you buy a used car you go to carfax and type in the VIN and you can see if the car was in any accidents who owned it before you etc. etc.
do the same with hardware. does cpuz have a way to show a specific id code for the chip? so we can tell if a chip is being used by more than one user?
Thats not the solution either. Then you have people with money to piss away and or manufacturers binning 20,30,50 even 100 retails.Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
Not to mention AMD or intel can easily brand ES as retails and have done so in the past, least the way it is now they are trackable.......
The guys with money to burn and just throw away would love for the ES factor to be removed, makes it easier for them to dominate.
End users are sometimes more guilty than the manufacturer. They can put a gun in your had but ultimately the enduser is the one that decides to pull the trigger.
Some people can and will draw a line in the sand and say ok this is a line I won't cross, sadly there are far more that will cross the line and or have no line they would not cross.
well i dont know how you get around that man. If I buy 50 chips and bin all of them and submit my best chip it means nothing. I can buy 100 lottery tickets and all of them are losers. then honest joe blow comes in that bought just one and wins the whole thing. luck of the draw is luck of the draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
money is great and all and its the root of all evil but I also believe in the oc gods. if you buy some hardware and rma it in a dishonest way you will get punished later somewhere down the line. condensation or bent pins. usb key got messed when you saved the submission...or maybe you got the thermos confused with your beer and drank ln2. it all comes back.
not quite an accurate analogy, you can't resell a lottery ticket if it sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by trans am
You also can't resell a decent lottery ticket for more money than its worth if it's decent.
I also know people paying $600 for guaranteed chips and in fact have been offered money for good chips.
That removes luck from factor, also partial skill after all there is a bare minimum XXXX frequency will give you for a score even if your the worst ocer in the world.
Like I said sometimes what matters most is how you acchieve a result and not the actual result.
i feel bad for the point loss for team.xs
hope you guys still kickin...
rev 4 is around the corner, It won't be much of a loss then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondacity
oh rev4 ... i didn't see that hehehe
Msimax is still going to come up so i will bench with him, I will be helping him out, helping team with stuff, mods etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondacity
Think Zeneffect will also be benching with me in near future, see if we can't help him climb the charts some.
I need to take a backseat for awhile though mentally, physically and financially.
thats good news for XS :D
wish u the best brian...
orayt nuff of me spammin this thread lol...
I understand man. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
It's still awesome that you can help us with mods and guidance! :D
Mr. Chew - Ditto what Linux said, we still need you!
Even w/o points you are a huge asset to the team, stay near! :yepp:
Completely support your decision Chew*. Agree with you on many points, particularly where $ is concerned and SB.
Very reassuring to hear you are at heart still with the team helping support and share your knowledge with other members, that means more to the team than any number of points you contribute.
Now who wants to fund my road trip to see LinuxFan so we can take our position back from OC.net forums:D
Chip runs best on air/water I found out... testing on air tonight just to make sure its still going to get up to speed... should be good to go hard 56x. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by slaveondope
Pm'edQuote:
Originally Posted by Linuxfan
On another positive note Chew's bowing out should motivate team members to step up their game and push harder.:up:
How Xtreme are you really:stick::slapass:
No problem chew, the real world is definitely more important than this hobby or the next, so I wish you the best on your time off.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
for sure we will be benching, as long as we are having fun doing it, it doesnt matter what the ranks are :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
I hear you chew* I too have taken to making sure the priorities get taken care of, now I am 45lbs down since December 22 and 65 since last July. I hope to get back to it by the fall though as I do enjoy it but I love feeling good and being healthier with all this weight dropped (though more to go).
Good to hear !! :) :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGoat Eater
chew* dude, you have gained much deserving respect among a countless amount of "lurkers" around here... :up:
:up: and honestly will prevail Brian... some companies opened another bunch of cans of Whoopasssssssss... it's all just to fake sometimes :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by vasgto
Keep in touch AMD master...:up:
Chew, was good meeting you and watching you bench at CES this year. I was the guy that asked you if you chewed tobacco, thought that might have been where the name came from. :D Wanted to share my perspective in seeing you drop the point rankings.
From someone on "another team", I respect your decision for what makes sense for your situation, but I would vote you keep the boints. For good people like yourself who enjoy the hobby and are known around the enthusiast ranks, everyone knows how your boints were achieved. They are real submissions, real hardware, real work. It's well known that boints are a lot like monopoly money and its not hard to "counterfeit" - its all imaginary, but it makes playing more fun for a lot of people. We all compete on hwbot not because its a perfect platform, but because its the best platform available.
I compete in boints because my friends and people I trust compete in boints. The people gaming the system don't mean anything to me - that is the playing field, and my friends and people I trust are on the same playing field. Those are the people we are really competing with. Maybe in time you can look past the negativity a lot of people get caught up in with hwbot, refocus on what you can control which is your own benching, and remember that this is all just for the hobby and for the fun... I know you can do that without the boints, and thats cool. But the boints do make it more fun. :)
@slaveondope.net: Just to clarify, it is Overclockers.com. We don't have anything to do with oc.net, and I wouldn't want to be confused with them.