Retail Q9650 Overclocking Thread

Well i tought that its time to re activate this wonderful thread :D

with 30C outside summer here i used my portable AC to push 10C to the rad, room ambient was at 23,2, here are some results :up:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3891/p10304981.jpg

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/778...7178214853.png

Cheers all

Very nice Sergio. :up:

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Originally Posted by OC Nub

Very nice Sergio. :up:

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thanks friend :up:

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Originally Posted by andressergio

thanks friend :up:

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Indeed very slick setup and temps!

A bird told me that the new rad is coming next week so there is room for improvement :up:

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Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Indeed very slick setup and temps!

A bird told me that the new rad is coming next week so there is room for improvement :up:

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jaaa thanks friend that will be a bird of pray :rofl:

i just decided to play as couldnt do it on the afternoon it was damn hot outside like 36C, waited the nite and this was some fun

Cheers mate :up:
Sergio

btw: you got a killer sig :up:

hey andressergio
I saw what ya said about the gskills 9600 , do you think i would even benefit at 4.0 with a high bandwith vs my tight timmings 4 4 4 10 perf 8 ? with a trfc at 52
hoss331 is helping try to push my current setup but for some reasom im getting locked up , would like your opionion being you really like this board like me and probaly passing over till i9 since your pushing just as fast as a i7 thanks:up:

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Originally Posted by the_real_7

hey andressergio
I saw what ya said about the gskills 9600 , do you think i would even benefit at 4.0 with a high bandwith vs my tight timmings 4 4 4 10 perf 8 ? with a trfc at 52
hoss331 is helping try to push my current setup but for some reasom im getting locked up , would like your opionion being you really like this board like me and probaly passing over till i9 since your pushing just as fast as a i7 thanks:up:

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hola !!! happy new year mate...

yes i see hoss is trying to help all i can say to you mate is having 1200Mhz mem make lots of room for OC, ive seen lots of ppl very limited on OC with 1066mem, etc also gigaboard like some kind of mem, the ones that hoss have are awesome same as this Gskills PI9600, when i bought them costed me a fortune but i dont regret been benching them till 1300 using 2,4+ still runs awesome and run cool than other sticks i saw...

Try them you wont regret

Other thing you gotta consider is that not all chips are the same nor mobos...sometimes you got stucked by something else, thats the reason i prefeer mem that can do great OC even pushing lots of volts on the chip. But this is just inmo.

Cheers :up:
Sergio

thanks sergio make alot of sense hmmm I might just have to hit the button on these , if anything I wont lose performance but i should gain a bit , I looking to stick with this board awhile its really a fantastic board , hopping its not my q9650 hitting its limit at 4.0

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Originally Posted by the_real_7

thanks sergio make alot of sense hmmm I might just have to hit the button on these , if anything I wont lose performance but i should gain a bit , I looking to stick with this board awhile its really a fantastic board , hopping its not my q9650 hitting its limit at 4.0

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a pleasure mate...i been using quads since all this starts, i guess i had 2 duals, dont rememnber, but i discovered that quads push chipset very much and if you dont use mem that are loose that have room you will be limited on OC, thats my finding

blades are very good also but hard to find also they dont like much voltaje, you can strike the gskills till 2,5 wont hurt them

Cheers mate
Sergio

How important is it to have a low VID? I noticed my VID is 1.2250. Is this bad? The highest I can hit is 4.25GHz stable. Anything higher and 1 core always fails no matter how much vCore I add :(

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Originally Posted by sean222

How important is it to have a low VID? I noticed my VID is 1.2250. Is this bad? The highest I can hit is 4.25GHz stable. Anything higher and 1 core always fails no matter how much vCore I add :(

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Normally for very high overclocks it's more benificial if you have a low VID as the chip is actually binned as one that requires less voltage needs for it's stock speeds. When overclocking this assists us by having a larger voltage margin for overclocking. Your 1.225v chip is not a bad chip at all, It's just not one of the very low VID chips which means that overclocking to really high frequencies would more than likely require voltages way beyond Intels safe specs.

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Originally Posted by sean222

How important is it to have a low VID? I noticed my VID is 1.2250. Is this bad? The highest I can hit is 4.25GHz stable. Anything higher and 1 core always fails no matter how much vCore I add :(

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My Q9650 is a 1.225V VID if I remember correctly and it will do 4.91GHz at around 1.57V. It seems like it would run prime95 at 4.5Ghz and 1.42V but I never bothered to stability test extensively.(I think I did 15 minutes of prime at 4.7GHz 1.52V before the temperatures were in the high 80s. Its been too long since I tried to push it further.)

Don't be worried about a little bit higher VID.:up:

sean222, with more voltage and the right settings you can get it past 4.25.
I had a regular Q9650 and with 1.65vcore it did 4.7 and 4.8 on water and maxed out around 4.95ghz on subzero. :up:

I concur, mine's a 1.2 which seems to be about the average, but it can go past 5ghz, and bench at ~4.9 on water.

I have 1,2875 VID CPU and last night past 4,9 GHz for max CPU-Z,
bench at ~ 4,8 GHz, all on air (cold air - open window) and vcore around 1,60-1,65 V

http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...hz_4923.84_mhz

:):)

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Originally Posted by orbiter

Normally for very high overclocks it's more benificial if you have a low VID as the chip is actually binned as one that requires less voltage needs for it's stock speeds. When overclocking this assists us by having a larger voltage margin for overclocking. Your 1.225v chip is not a bad chip at all, It's just not one of the very low VID chips which means that overclocking to really high frequencies would more than likely require voltages way beyond Intels safe specs.

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That's what I was thinking :(

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Originally Posted by thebluemeanie1

My Q9650 is a 1.225V VID if I remember correctly and it will do 4.91GHz at around 1.57V. It seems like it would run prime95 at 4.5Ghz and 1.42V but I never bothered to stability test extensively.(I think I did 15 minutes of prime at 4.7GHz 1.52V before the temperatures were in the high 80s. Its been too long since I tried to push it further.)

Don't be worried about a little bit higher VID.:up:

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Glad to see a 1.225 VID can go that fast :)

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Originally Posted by Linuxfan

sean222, with more voltage and the right settings you can get it past 4.25.
I had a regular Q9650 and with 1.65vcore it did 4.7 and 4.8 on water and maxed out around 4.95ghz on subzero. :up:

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Yea, you're right, but my cooling is not adequate to push 1.6+ volts.

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Originally Posted by In-Fluence

I concur, mine's a 1.2 which seems to be about the average, but it can go past 5ghz, and bench at ~4.9 on water.

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:eek:

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Originally Posted by E-mil

I have 1,2875 VID CPU and last night past 4,9 GHz for max CPU-Z,
bench at ~ 4,8 GHz, all on air (cold air - open window) and vcore around 1,60-1,65 V

http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...hz_4923.84_mhz

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ZOMG, you guys are getting amazing speeds...so it's not my VID then :( It's me :( LoL.

Actually I think it's my cooling, although I have water cooling, I only have a Feser 240 rad...AND my overclocked GTX 295 is in the loop! :( It generates a lot of heat that my CPU pays for :( I have another rad (MCR-220)...maybe I can make another loop.

Ok ok, so now that I know that it's possible to go faster, would it be safe to run at 1.5v or 1.6v 24/7? (with OK water cooling) I'm enjoying 4.25 @ 1.375, but 4.5 (24/7) was my goal a long time ago! Haven't made it there yet :(

Thanks :D

1.6v 24/7 is in no way safe, but I guess you have to ask yourself how much you care if it does degrade after awhile. By the time it degrades enough to be problematic, you could probably just upgrade platforms anyway. No way of telling how long that will be though. Intel absolute max is 1.45v IIRC, but depending on how you interpret their spec sheet, this may or may not be safe to use. Running high volts is also hard on the mobo VRM so it will need good cooling.

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Originally Posted by andressergio

Well i tought that its time to re activate this wonderful thread :D

with 30C outside summer here i used my portable AC to push 10C to the rad, room ambient was at 23,2, here are some results :up:

Cheers all

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Sweet setup and numbers Sergio, but I know these numbers will be crushed soon with quad 4.9-5ghz goddess :up:

Keep us posted.

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Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Sweet setup and numbers Sergio, but I know these numbers will be crushed soon with quad 4.9-5ghz goddess :up:

Keep us posted.

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for sure mate i think is time i update my sig :rofl:

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Originally Posted by andressergio

for sure mate i think is time i update my sig :rofl:

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Wow! This is what I call x3380 goodness. Show us some torture tests (LinX, Prime95), please.

You must have found an ES since thats the same batch as mine.

andressergio,congrats on your x3380 5Ghz goodness:up:
whats the vid on that one?

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Originally Posted by radaja

andressergio,congrats on your x3380 5Ghz goodness:up:
whats the vid on that one?

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hey radaja its a vid 1,2 like 7C cooler than my Q9650 1,1875 vid and does some magic numbers to play with :up:

cheers :up:
Sergio

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Originally Posted by andressergio

hey radaja its a vid 1,2 like 7C cooler than my Q9650 1,1875 vid and does some magic numbers to play with :up:

cheers :up:
Sergio

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Can't wait to see some 3d Sergio!

7oC cooler! Nice head room to play with in the summer :up:

Congrats on the new chip Sergio.

Should get that chip on phase or DICE/LN2 asap :)

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Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Can't wait to see some 3d Sergio!

7oC cooler! Nice head room to play with in the summer :up:

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you will see soon mate im testing very low volts now and yesterday booted at 4905 so easy...

will post some results soon :D

Thanks friend :up:
Sergio

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Originally Posted by OC Nub

Congrats on the new chip Sergio.

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Thank you my friend :up:

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

Should get that chip on phase or DICE/LN2 asap :)

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no need mate i will push 10C AC to the rad ;) for now im just treating him like a lady lol

Thank you my friend :up:

OK here's some test, heat outside is killer over 33C im on AC at 23,9 Ambient Room not pointing to the PC just let the ambient cools to 24C as a reference

X3380@ 4009(422x9,5) at vcore load 1,184 / idle 1,2

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/511...951125cust.jpg

i got temp diferences as u can see, Realtemp and Coretemp shows more, and Everest HWinfo, Hwmonitor show less, so i dont know who to believe...either way the chip is cooler than my vid 1,1875

Cheers :up:
Sergio

Very nice temps there. Scary start up vcore in easy tune though! 1.50v! That's no way to treat a lady ;)

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

Very nice temps there. Scary start up vcore in easy tune though! 1.50v! That's no way to treat a lady ;)

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lmao that was for trying 4905 wich booted lol, easy tune saves that i dont know where

also been testing this

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4...pl9bootdes.jpg

Ah ok. Looks like you will be having some fun with it anyway, congrats.

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

Ah ok. Looks like you will be having some fun with it anyway, congrats.

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great fun :up:

i managed to drop vcore i love this chip :o) see how programs reports temps in dif way

X3380@ 4009(422x9,5) at vcore load/idle 1,184

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5...951125cust.jpg

X3380@ 4057(427x9,5) at vcore load/idle 1,20

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/360...951138cust.jpg

I'm glad to see you're enjoying the new toy. Looks like the new chip does 4ghz without breaking a sweat, very nice Sergio.

i have exact the same voltages stable with my Q9550 VID 1.1375. but looks promising

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Originally Posted by MrDucky

i have exact the same voltages stable with my Q9550 VID 1.1375. but looks promising

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nice mate :up: 1,1375 vid :shocked: this is 1,20

I updated my low volts tests

Cheers :up:
Sergio

Hey Sergio those volts looking good so far in you et6 and cpu - id cant wait to see what that xeon going to do :up:

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Originally Posted by the_real_7

Hey Sergio those volts looking good so far in you et6 and cpu - id cant wait to see what that xeon going to do :up:

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Thanks Tony :up:

lol ET6 keeps remembering my first boot at 4817 lol with all volts i used...dont know how to make it read same as im using

Newer version of ET6 are crap...i installed a B09 one but i remember i've used a very good one B08 ish...that i dont have anymore

Cheers :up:
Sergio

That's very nice for a first boot mate - didn't know about this thread...
1.40 for vtt is absolutely lovely for 4.8....means the CHIP will last...:D:D
where did you get your's from if I may ask????:shrug::shrug::shrug:

Thanks:up:

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Originally Posted by Gameman

That's very nice for a first boot mate - didn't know about this thread...
1.40 for vtt is absolutely lovely for 4.8....means the CHIP will last...:D:D
where did you get your's from if I may ask????:shrug::shrug::shrug:

Thanks:up:

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Thanks mate :up: i started to learn it as its different from my Q9650 so i started at low volts 4000+ and tuning and more tuning, after i have a base and learn it i will pump up :D

well it was a birthday present ;)

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Originally Posted by andressergio

Thanks Tony :up:

lol ET6 keeps remembering my first boot at 4817 lol with all volts i used...dont know how to make it read same as im using

Newer version of ET6 are crap...i installed a B09 one but i remember i've used a very good one B08 ish...that i dont have anymore

Cheers :up:
Sergio

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Agreed, new et6 really SUCKS!! et6 caused my ud6 board to go into the only boot loop it has had, as soon as I moved the slider to up vcore it locked up. :down:

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Originally Posted by OC Nub

Agreed, new et6 really SUCKS!! et6 caused my ud6 board to go into the only boot loop it has had, as soon as I moved the slider to up vcore it locked up. :down:

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yes Tom sucks also talked to Jor and told me that newer versions are horrible i went back to the old ones

Cheers
Sergio

been testing and tweaking to learn this new beast amazing chip temps under 50C at 23,8C ambient with tons of heat outside, very hot summer here...

this is 2hs blend and still going to 3hs

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4182/capturaix.png

Cheers :up:
Sergio

4GHz come on man wind her up a bit :) You're turning into a grandpa like me lol.

Well after topping out at 4300 stable and figuring out my ram limitations that where actually quite good if i need to push to 4500 .. Im back at 4.0 lowering my vtt and and reference as low as possible to see how low I cant get my vcore , once I hit that I'm go back up 100mhz at a time adjusting vtt and vcore as needed to stable at higher speeds ... here's last night results not the best but not the worst either :)

Intel Q9650 @ 4050 4 4 4 10 1.1 Stable Setup A
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7...ableSetupA.jpg

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Originally Posted by andressergio

nice mate :up: 1,1375 vid :shocked: this is 1,20

I updated my low volts tests

Cheers :up:
Sergio

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if you think thats amazing read this post the last 4 replies or someting

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...203236&page=35

Coretemp sometimes reads the low vid rather than the high vid. You need to have a screen of real temp showing min and max vids ;)

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Originally Posted by MrDucky

if you think thats amazing read this post the last 4 replies or someting

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...203236&page=35

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Yes i saw that i have some nice low vids but all nice clockers but high heat, im very happy of this X3380 vid 1,20 its a very nice combo of temps and clocks it boots at 5ghz so easy i cant believe it :D

Cheers :up:
Sergio

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

4GHz come on man wind her up a bit :) You're turning into a grandpa like me lol.

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lol be patient my friend in learning how the new beast reacts...you will see some awesome numbers soon ;)

Cheers friend
Sergio

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

Coretemp sometimes reads the low vid rather than the high vid. You need to have a screen of real temp showing min and max vids ;)

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Will try thanks :up:

Upping it a bit very nice temps at idle compared to my Q9650

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/578...200spi32m1.jpg

Cheers :up:
Sergio

Hey guys!

I just got my UD3P installed and now I am looking for some suggestions! I have the Ballistix Red Tracer Ram 2x2GB. Anyone know some good timings/settings to start with?

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Originally Posted by andressergio

Upping it a bit very nice temps at idle compared to my Q9650

Cheers :up:
Sergio

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:up: 4750Mhz is just a joke ;)


Max 24/7 I took out of my Q9650 was 4680Mhz otherwise it would explode the WC system into flames. Nicely done Sergio!

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Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

:up: 4750Mhz is just a joke ;)


Max 24/7 I took out of my Q9650 was 4680Mhz otherwise it would explode the WC system into flames. Nicely done Sergio!

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:ROTF:

well this will be my 24/7 :up: working on that :up:
i adjusted everest Tjmax to 100C so it shows same temps as all, this didnt happened on my Q9650 before all showed the same

Well im happy could never did this on 25+C ROOM temp on my other quad no Air Condioner at all this Xeon is awesome

im heading to my 24/7 searching some stability

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/634...turapassed.jpg

Cheers mates :up:

OK everyone there is a ton of post for this proc, and overclocking it. I need help i am really new to overclocking, and all the lingo, but i have followed your guys instruction to overclock my I7. now i have finely bought my wife a new proc (she's been using a p4 on a Striker Extreme mother board for 3 or 4 years now). we are water cooling her PC. I see you all have manage to get it 4.5-4.9 for 24/7, so that is my goal. I need help. please can someone give me a step, by step info on how i can archive this goal, what i need to change, and at what increments to get there, also what to watch out for.

Thank you all for the help.
MOB - Striker Extreme (water cooled)
BIOS - 1901
Proc - Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W
mem- DDR2 800mhz Mushkin 4g
Video - 7950GT 512m

4.5-4.9 will be hard on the striker extreme.almost all here getting those frequencies are using the gigabyte EP45-UD3P/R's
sorry i cant help as ive never used the striker extreme.good luck

790i need alot more juice to be stable 1.48 for same cpu same speed @ 1.38-1.4
my first q9650 wasnt stable @ 4.0 with 1.46v on 790i but it was @ 1.33 with ud3r

Striker Extreme is 680i, 4.5GHz with a quad will never happen on it with air-cooling. I used the Striker in my main rig for a year, it's a nice board but almost every P45 will kill it in regards to overclocking and performance.

OK well i don't want to get another board other wise i would just upgrade her to an i7, but if you guys could help me get started with overclocking that would be greati want to get it atleast to 4.0 and then see if i can go higher. What steps did i need to take to get started on overclocking it. What would i need to change, where should i start. i am not sure what setting i should adjust or anything, if u all could help me get started. Also tell me at what rate should i slowly move up at, where the limit is, that i should stop at, and what to look for that would really help thank you

Thank you all for the help.
my system is water cooled
MOB - Striker Extreme
BIOS - 1901
Proc - Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W
mem- DDR2 800mhz Mushkin 4g
Video - 7950GT 512m

Hello guys, I've swapped my 1.3 vid q9650 with 1.2 vid q9650 and I liked the lower voltages it needs for the same clocks. But this 1.2 vid chip is hotter than my old one. I've successfully ran LinX at 4400Mhz ~1.4V but it fails in prime95 x64 small fft with FATAL ERROR: Final result was xxxxx instead xxxxx.....
I've tried raising vcore/adjusting CPU GTL Reference Voltage/raising VTT but without success. I've made successful prime95 x64 small fft run with lower multiplier so memory and chipset have to be stable at this FSB(489).

Hi, I consider to buy one Q9650 because of bad company are taking the advantage of 4 cores. I found one with batch: L946b997, has someone tried this batch ? I will be happy if it will be stable 24/7 with low voltage with 4.0ghz.

It will probably do 4ghz just fine but it may not be at low voltage. I dont have any experience with that batch but from what ive seen the newer L9xx batchs dont clock as well as the older L8xxs.

Core 3 sucks and requires major vcore for stability.

Wow, long time since I've been here. I see Sergio and don don still hanging around in here huh... Exiting.

Anyways I've got some cash saved up and I plan to get rid of my SLI 260's and snag a new Fermi card, either the GTX 480, or a 5870 depending on Fermi performance, once I do I'll no longer need this SLI 750i junker board I've got... so I'm wondering, the Q9650 is still a badass chip and I'm positive mine can go higher with a EP45 board.. but is it worth it to remove all this and get the new Motherboard, or should I just move to i7. i mean I don't really need it...

Basically I'm thinking of getting a Fermi card or 5870, then switching to the UD3P, and i might keep my current ram, or get something better. and try moving higher for a 24/7 clock on this thing. it works perfect for my now, I don't really need anything to much more.. but sometimes when I'm doing to much like encoding a Movie and playing Bad company 2, both CPU intensive I'll occasionally get a freeze, it's probably my 750i n oc.. I'd like to know it's 100% stable with a UD3P that will be much easier to achieve.

I have been following this thread for a while, since I bought my first Q9650 almost a year and a half ago. I just recently sold my 1.25 VID chip for a 1.1875 VID and the difference in temperatures is unreal. Also the 1.1875 chip has core temps all over the place. Core 1 is the hottest always, Core 2 is by far the coolest running core by as much as 9C, and the other two are consistent with each other.

I am getting higher temps and a lower overall overclock (9X460 @1.28 cpuz 74C only one core vs. 8.5X500 @ 1.376 cpuz 67C) due to the fact I am air cooling. I have a lapped TRUE w/ a San Ace 109R, and I think that I am going to need water to go any further.

Just wanted to say thanks for such a great resource (NapalmV5, Andressergio, Hoss, Radaja)

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Wow, long time since I've been here. I see Sergio and don don still hanging around in here huh... Exiting.

Anyways I've got some cash saved up and I plan to get rid of my SLI 260's and snag a new Fermi card, either the GTX 480, or a 5870 depending on Fermi performance, once I do I'll no longer need this SLI 750i junker board I've got... so I'm wondering, the Q9650 is still a badass chip and I'm positive mine can go higher with a EP45 board.. but is it worth it to remove all this and get the new Motherboard, or should I just move to i7. i mean I don't really need it...

Basically I'm thinking of getting a Fermi card or 5870, then switching to the UD3P, and i might keep my current ram, or get something better. and try moving higher for a 24/7 clock on this thing. it works perfect for my now, I don't really need anything to much more.. but sometimes when I'm doing to much like encoding a Movie and playing Bad company 2, both CPU intensive I'll occasionally get a freeze, it's probably my 750i n oc.. I'd like to know it's 100% stable with a UD3P that will be much easier to achieve.

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The Q9650 is still a kickass CPU. If you don't yet need 8 threaded ability, I'd grab a second hand UD3P, some nice Gkill Pi 9600's and have some fun. You should be able to get 4.2 - 4.5 depending on your chip, which will give you considerable power for less than a platform upgrade.

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Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3

I have been following this thread for a while, since I bought my first Q9650 almost a year and a half ago. I just recently sold my 1.25 VID chip for a 1.1875 VID and the difference in temperatures is unreal. Also the 1.1875 chip has core temps all over the place. Core 1 is the hottest always, Core 2 is by far the coolest running core by as much as 9C, and the other two are consistent with each other.

I am getting higher temps and a lower overall overclock (9X460 @1.28 cpuz 74C only one core vs. 8.5X500 @ 1.376 cpuz 67C) due to the fact I am air cooling. I have a lapped TRUE w/ a San Ace 109R, and I think that I am going to need water to go any further.

Just wanted to say thanks for such a great resource (NapalmV5, Andressergio, Hoss, Radaja)

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Now you have a low VID chip, you will need better cooling for sure. Good excuse to move to water cooling, that will really give you some headroom.

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Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3

I have been following this thread for a while, since I bought my first Q9650 almost a year and a half ago. I just recently sold my 1.25 VID chip for a 1.1875 VID and the difference in temperatures is unreal. Also the 1.1875 chip has core temps all over the place. Core 1 is the hottest always, Core 2 is by far the coolest running core by as much as 9C, and the other two are consistent with each other.

I am getting higher temps and a lower overall overclock (9X460 @1.28 cpuz 74C only one core vs. 8.5X500 @ 1.376 cpuz 67C) due to the fact I am air cooling. I have a lapped TRUE w/ a San Ace 109R, and I think that I am going to need water to go any further.

Just wanted to say thanks for such a great resource (NapalmV5, Andressergio, Hoss, Radaja)

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thanks mate such low vid to enjoy them at its best u need water but they do great at low volts :up:

cheers :up:
Sergio

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Originally Posted by xguntherc

Wow, long time since I've been here. I see Sergio and don don still hanging around in here huh... Exiting.

Anyways I've got some cash saved up and I plan to get rid of my SLI 260's and snag a new Fermi card, either the GTX 480, or a 5870 depending on Fermi performance, once I do I'll no longer need this SLI 750i junker board I've got... so I'm wondering, the Q9650 is still a badass chip and I'm positive mine can go higher with a EP45 board.. but is it worth it to remove all this and get the new Motherboard, or should I just move to i7. i mean I don't really need it...

Basically I'm thinking of getting a Fermi card or 5870, then switching to the UD3P, and i might keep my current ram, or get something better. and try moving higher for a 24/7 clock on this thing. it works perfect for my now, I don't really need anything to much more.. but sometimes when I'm doing to much like encoding a Movie and playing Bad company 2, both CPU intensive I'll occasionally get a freeze, it's probably my 750i n oc.. I'd like to know it's 100% stable with a UD3P that will be much easier to achieve.

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I PM you mate
Cheers !
Sergio

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

The Q9650 is still a kickass CPU. If you don't yet need 8 threaded ability, I'd grab a second hand UD3P, some nice Gkill Pi 9600's and have some fun. You should be able to get 4.2 - 4.5 depending on your chip, which will give you considerable power for less than a platform upgrade.



Now you have a low VID chip, you will need better cooling for sure. Good excuse to move to water cooling, that will really give you some headroom.

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+1 for that :up:

Hi all,

I found a sort of a bug in prime or in the CPU.....
When i stress test my CPU in prime95 it always crashes at exactly the same temprature. when it turns to 74C on core 1 then u see a dip in the tempreture it goes to 65 and then again to 74 and then worker 1 stops and the temp drops again. it doesn't matter how much vcore i give its always at the same temprature with the same error.

Error: FATAL ERROR: Final result was 48FCCFE6, expected: 26C78657.

I think this is a safety feature from intel. but its verry stupid for me cause i cant stress it to know if its stable...
My Q9550 @ 4.25 GHz i can stress it @ 1.248 volts (vid 1.1375) and @ 1.264 volts and @ 1.280 volts every time the same error at the same time (when the first core hits 74C this is the warmest core)
I know that its stable enough for me cause i can play all my games without crashes (including GTA4)

Greetings
MrDucky

guys, if I got cores 0 and 1 going exactly the same speed thru P95 Blend, while cores 2 and 3 are very different in speed (both slower....with 2.40B I could have one VERY fast, then cores 0+1 same speed, finally last core sloow)

What to change? I remember having nvidia chipset 750i SLI FTW, it had TWO GTLVREF (CPU REF), but no MCH REF....

advise me plz.

F9 BIOS + 2.50A is my new find.

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I plan to get rid of my SLI 260's and snag a new Fermi card, either the GTX 480, or a 5870 depending on Fermi performance

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Plz, SLI GTX260 equals GTX480. I found Corei7 @ 5.5GHz + GTX480 @ LN2...guess what, my 4.2GHz Q9650 and GTX260SLI beat it in Vantage....5.5GHz vs 4.2GHz Q9650 does NADA for FPS. Heat...GTX480 is a hot one.
I'll post a link to my comparison post at techpowerup - http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpo...postcount=1792

xguntherc, you already have a kickass PC and I don't think it's worth it to get a more expensive 775 motherboard for just a few hundred MHz more on the CPU. I fell into the trap of changing one or two components just to get and extra 200MHz here and there, and the resulting 4.3GHz I got from my Q9650 looked nice in my sig but didn't look so good in my bank statement, especially after I bought the memory, the TRUE, and the case fans I needed to go with it. :D

My advice: IF you upgrade at all (which I don't think you should), upgrade to X58 and keep your GTX260 SLI. I'd KILL for GTX260 SLI at this time but I just don't have the £/$ for it.

Best option is to take your OC down a couple of notches to 3.8GHz and you should easily solve your freeze problems without affecting performance noticeably, and without spending anything at all. :up:

my old Q9650 VID 1.25

http://www.hostanyimage.com/files/46...9508849652.png


that was not prime stable, just 2D stable. I was able to run superpi 1M and thats all I really tried. It was on air as well, lapped TRUE with a single San Ace 109R, definitely too hot to prime or burntest.


here is my new Q9650, VID 1.1875

http://www.hostanyimage.com/files/45...2546211382.png

it does well at low volts but anything more than that will burst into flames:shocked:

I am deciding on what parts I want for my loop, and I am thinking EK Supreme HF, dual DDC with XSPC dual top, 7/16" ID tubing with 1/2 fittings of some sort (bitspower), GTX 240 radiator to fit inside my CM690.

Can anyone suggest some quality fittings?

l0ud_sil3nc3, unless your dead set on keeping the rad inside your case I think a bigger rad would probably benefit you more than the dual pump setup.



On a side note I toyed around with wprime the other night and got a new best. I think efficiency can be better but so far so good.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p293/hoss281/503.png

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l0ud_sil3nc3, unless your dead set on keeping the rad inside your case I think a bigger rad would probably benefit you more than the dual pump setup.



On a side note I toyed around with wprime the other night and got a new best. I think efficiency can be better but so far so good.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p293/hoss281/503.png

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honestly I have been thinking about stripping everything out of the case, and using the motherboard box, or maybe even using this case and getting a triple 120. You think a triple would be necessary even if it was a single loop cooling only the cpu?

WOW very nice wprime run, 5 Ghz is very impressive:up:

what is the VID of your chip?

did this about an hour ago, not prime stable yet due to heat issues, however not bad for a single card as well

http://www.hostanyimage.com/files/25...2623308452.png

Nice time Hoss! So is that on phase then? I'm getting my EP45-Extreme either today or tomorrow, so I'll see how it fares on this chip. I'm going to try for a ~5GHz SPI run, but I fear my PI's limit will not take me beyond 1296 like I managed with the 1Gb reapers.
Do you get a big difference in times with 2x1gb vs 2x2gb?

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Originally Posted by Hoss331

l0ud_sil3nc3, unless your dead set on keeping the rad inside your case I think a bigger rad would probably benefit you more than the dual pump setup.

On a side note I toyed around with wprime the other night and got a new best. I think efficiency can be better but so far so good.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p293/hoss281/503.png

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Very impressive for water, solid board too holding 560 FSB.

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Nice time Hoss! So is that on phase then? I'm getting my EP45-Extreme either today or tomorrow, so I'll see how it fares on this chip. I'm going to try for a ~5GHz SPI run, but I fear my PI's limit will not take me beyond 1296 like I managed with the 1Gb reapers.
Do you get a big difference in times with 2x1gb vs 2x2gb?

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its hard on 2x2 influence...

this is mine not tuning OS too lazy to do that just shot it, its at 9,5 multi

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4206/sp11m12.jpg

cheers :up:
Sergio

Insane CPU mate, nice work. Have to see what it can do on the new board when you get it all together.

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Basically I'm thinking of getting a Fermi card or 5870, then switching to the UD3P, and i might keep my current ram, or get something better. and try moving higher for a 24/7 clock on this thing. it works perfect for my now, I don't really need anything to much more.. but sometimes when I'm doing to much like encoding a Movie and playing Bad company 2, both CPU intensive I'll occasionally get a freeze, it's probably my 750i n oc.. I'd like to know it's 100% stable with a UD3P that will be much easier to achieve.

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I had SLI GTX 260 + 750i SLI FTW... 3 of them...all broke their SATA PORTS. With voltmods, maybe 4GHz would have been 10hr P95 Stable...yes, did all the GTLVREF tweaking...gee

My tip: get any (well..UD3P :) ) decent crossfire P45 board and SLI hack it (google techpowerup forum sli hack, very easy, works great on W7 x64), use all your other current hardware: One thing is for sure, you will know CPU will run until anything else than mobo is limited. I know all about freezes on 750i

What you'll gain with SLI GTX260 on P45 vs NVIDIA mobo? Weekend's fun OCing the c**p out of your Q9650, 200MHz inc for sure. Gaming wise: more stability, higher fps

In a year or so, when your games run slow, put SLI GTX260 to 750i and sell for big bucks, buy ATI HD6850 2GB and keep UD3P....octacore in 2012 ?

for the ram: corsair 2x2GB 6400C5, this kit cost me sub 40€ last year...it'll run atleast 940MHz 5-5-5-18(i tested up to 4.2GHz, then bought 1150MHz ram - no gain), never tried higher. my advise is to not put moolah on new ram..save all for next gen GPU and hexa/octacore

Hi everyone !
Im going to get a 9650 or maybe a 9550, it depends on the price...
Anyway, I have a X48-DS5 and I would like to know if my processor will like it :P

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Hi everyone !
Im going to get a 9650 or maybe a 9550, it depends on the price...
Anyway, I have a X48-DS5 and I would like to know if my processor will like it :P

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I will sum the last 132 pages very easily. . .

Q9650 + Gigabyte EP45 UD3P or variants + GSkill PI's = dank

get rid of that X48 and enjoy stability at higher clocks:up:

priming away it was chilly here today:clap:http://www.hostanyimage.com/files/46...2393368161.png

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honestly I have been thinking about stripping everything out of the case, and using the motherboard box, or maybe even using this case and getting a triple 120. You think a triple would be necessary even if it was a single loop cooling only the cpu?

WOW very nice wprime run, 5 Ghz is very impressive:up:

what is the VID of your chip?

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I wouldnt mind getting a banchetto myself, there nice, right now im using just the motherboard tray from my tj07 as a bench station. Personally I would get atleast a triple rad, I started with a 220 and ended up adding a 320 later on since water temps with just the 220 were pretty warm. My vid is 1.15.

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Nice time Hoss! So is that on phase then? I'm getting my EP45-Extreme either today or tomorrow, so I'll see how it fares on this chip. I'm going to try for a ~5GHz SPI run, but I fear my PI's limit will not take me beyond 1296 like I managed with the 1Gb reapers.
Do you get a big difference in times with 2x1gb vs 2x2gb?

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No phase, im testing with dice for now. Its not necessarily the size of the ram thats going to affect the time but how they clock, and usually the 2x1gbs are just the better clockers, either with tight timings or high mhz. My Blades wont run 1300+ stably nor cas4 much past 1000 but the CSs will. Efficiency wise it seems the high mhz cas5 performs slightly better than the lower mhz cas4 but my board seems to prefer 1:1 over 5:6 after a certain point, around ~547-48fsb. If you have to end up running cas5 on 1:1 youll lose some time but I dont think it will be to major. Just try to keep it as cool as you can and go for that 5ghz run. :up:

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Very impressive for water, solid board too holding 560 FSB.

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It was actually run on dice, my second time and was more of a testing/learning session than a max effort run. The highest I ran wprime on water was about 4965-70 for 32m and 4950 for 1024m. :up:

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priming away it was chilly here today:clap:

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Keep it going and try to tighten up those sub timings. :up:

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Keep it going and try to tighten up those sub timings. :up:

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which ones? PL level? tRFC?

I plan to get those down, I am pretty sure my GSkill's can do tRFC 52, I know 48 will freeze the entire system.

Am I missing anything here?

TRFC was part of it but the other sub timings look to be left on auto with the "Standard" memory profile. You can either change the memory profile to turbo and leave the sub timings on auto or leave standard as the memory profile but under Advanced Timing Control set the timings to 3-3-6-(52 or trfc of your choice)-3. Also when you preset the sub timings there is essentially no performance difference between the standard and turbo memory profile when using a 4GB kit, 2GB kit is a different story though.

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TRFC was part of it but the other sub timings look to be left on auto with the "Standard" memory profile. You can either change the memory profile to turbo and leave the sub timings on auto or leave standard as the memory profile but under Advanced Timing Control set the timings to 3-3-6-(52 or trfc of your choice)-3. Also when you preset the sub timings there is essentially no performance difference between the standard and turbo memory profile when using a 4GB kit, 2GB kit is a different story though.

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I am running the Turbo profile on 2.50A. As soon as this prime test crashes (or finishes) I will double check.

Turbo or standard with timings preset would look similar to this.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...81/timings.png

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Insane CPU mate, nice work. Have to see what it can do on the new board when you get it all together.

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thanks mate :up: lets see and that was summer just water on the old setup can wait some benches on winter and new rad, block :D

Cheers :up:
Sergio

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priming away it was chilly here today:clap:

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go go mate !!! grats on that :up:

so after 23 hours or prime small, as I was about to post a screen shot, I had a lockup. No BSOD, no error in prime, just a freeze as I was typing in firefox.

vcore maybe? or maybe more vtt?

It may be a nb/ram issue, post your template. Also dont bother running just small ffts go straight for blend.

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so after 23 hours or prime small, as I was about to post a screen shot, I had a lockup. No BSOD, no error in prime, just a freeze as I was typing in firefox.

vcore maybe? or maybe more vtt?

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lol why on earth u need 23 hours prime ? can be anything mate...any heat peak, any glitch on current...

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It may be a nb/ram issue, post your template. Also dont bother running just small ffts go straight for blend.

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blending as we speak


cpu vcore 1.35
cpu termination 1.32
cpu pll 1.57
cpu ref
dram voltage 2.08
dram termination auto
dram chA auto
dram chB auto
MCH voltage 1.40
MCH ref
MCH dram auto
ICH IO 1.50
ICH v 1.10

as for the refs I can't remember off the top of my head and I am priming now so I don't wanna reboot, but what I did was set vtt to 1.20 and then changed the cpu ref to 0.785 and the mch ref to 0.800 and then raised vtt back to 1.32v.

Just so you know the 1.32vtt setting does not work, it will stay at the 1.30 setting. When set in the bios it will still read 1.32 but actual voltage doesnt change at all over the 1.30 setting, 1.34 actually puts out what the 1.32 settings should. VTT up to 1.30 over volts a little and 1.34+ starts under volting by about 0.02. PLL also over volts pretty good so you can probably just use the 1.50 setting there.