ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

I've had a couple of follow-up calls this week from ASUS Tech Support about my August call. Problem is, the detail of 1.02G boards not getting as wide a range of vCore values as other board revisions is still not being accepted as a "Hey. lets fix that" issue. Or at least not by the techs manning the phones.

So I'm supposed to call in once I'm at my computer, and someone will talk me through trying to get stable operation at 1333Mhz FSB. That's ALL they'll guarantee, and only if that doesn't work would they MAYBE consider it a warranty issue. Maybe.

I'm aiming for tonight...

The guy I talked to didn't think the exercise of changing settings again would get me anywhere, so he talked to his supervisor. I was told that a form would be emailed to me to fill out, with my specs like MB revision and CPU, and they'd set up the same system there for testing. My comment that searching Google would reveal others with the same problem was accepted but not with any excitement. I did volunteer to work closely with a Taiwan BIOS engineer to get the settings fixed, which was also acknowledged as having been heard.

Always willing to believe the semi-believable, I'm now waiting for that form so things can continue moving forward...

FWIW: I kept my P5W-DH because it works well with my E6400 Allendale and makes a nice media box.. I couldn't OC 4x1GB sticks for crap and barely could run stock speeds, but I can run 392FSB 1:1 with 2x2GB OCZ Reaper DDR800CL4 sticks, I have it set at 4-4-4-15 and in Sandra it actually has better bandwidth than my previous 2x1GB kits (at least 8 different kits on this particular board).

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Originally Posted by mikepaul

Always willing to believe the semi-believable, I'm now waiting for that form so things can continue moving forward...

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Kudos to you for pushing them cos this mobo can still work very nicely with a proper BIOS. I still have mine.

I am hoping someone can finally put me out of my misery. I had a Q6600 G0 given to me and I thought its worth having because of what I have seen as its overclocking qualities. Well I have tried everything and the best I get is 3.0ghz or if I use the 30% clock profile in the BIOS I can get up to 3.11.

I would be really grateful if anyone could give me some settings to try as I have been up and down the various changes and everytime I run orime it falls over on thread 4 within seconds.

I have an arctic freezer pro 7 and at 3.00 idle CPU temps are around 35.

Running Vista 64-bit with 4gb of 6400C5DHX RAM (timings at 5-5-5-18)

BIOS version 27.04

Like I said, if I am told thats as good as it gets, so be it, wait for a new motherboard

Thanks

Paul

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Originally Posted by pks1414

I am hoping someone can finally put me out of my misery. I had a Q6600 G0 given to me and I thought its worth having because of what I have seen as its overclocking qualities. Well I have tried everything and the best I get is 3.0ghz or if I use the 30% clock profile in the BIOS I can get up to 3.11.

I would be really grateful if anyone could give me some settings to try as I have been up and down the various changes and everytime I run orime it falls over on thread 4 within seconds.

I have an arctic freezer pro 7 and at 3.00 idle CPU temps are around 35.

Running Vista 64-bit with 4gb of 6400C5DHX RAM (timings at 5-5-5-18)

BIOS version 27.04

Like I said, if I am told thats as good as it gets, so be it, wait for a new motherboard

Thanks

Paul

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Yes this is about as good as it gets. I can run 3.0 fully stable and 3.15 prime stable but then my network is unreliable (strange but true).
I run 2gb corsair at ~830 at 4 4 4 12 2X 1gb. With 4 sticks results are even lower (~290FSB stable)

Thats a blow :( I was hoping to hit the heady hights of at least 3.4 Presumably the only way is by investing in a new MOBO...what a bummer, just when you get something for nothing :)

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Originally Posted by mikepaul

Always willing to believe the semi-believable, I'm now waiting for that form so things can continue moving forward...

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Very nice work! This is exactly what needs to be done. It would probably help if 1 or 2 more people reported the manual voltage problem to ASUS with the same persistence. I haven't bought my new CPU yet but pretty soon I hope...

I was told that MAYBE I'd hear back by Wednesday, but I do have the extension for the first tech I talked to if things drag on without feedback.

The trick of still finding a 1.02G around their office is likely the big hurdle. I doubt anyone who is in charge of testing the BIOS has one...

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Originally Posted by mikepaul

The trick of still finding a 1.02G around their office is likely the big hurdle. I doubt anyone who is in charge of testing the BIOS has one...

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I agree that is the problem, but surely they can find a 1.02G (or original 1.01?) to reproduce the issue. I do remember reading about someone else being told by ASUS that they couldn't find an early revision board around the office at the moment but that the latest revision board changed vcore just fine!

Still, you have taken things further by escalating and formalizing issue so let's hope ASUS takes it more seriously this time.

I am an owner of a 1.02g revision board. I hope that a new bios version will eventually come up so i can install a 45nm cpu.

I think asus has to focus more on the problem and not just telling that they don't have a similar board to test...

Today, I finally got my desktop running again and am now having problems with my motherboard fan headers. About 4 months ago, I took apart my computer with my FAN1 and FAN2 headers working fine. Now, neither of them work while all the others work.

Is there a feature that disables headers or does it seem that my motherboard is crapping out on me? I bought this motherboard 1 and 1/2 years ago and expected longer life from this :(

Hi, I'm new here

I'm currently running my E8400 at P5W DH (rev 1.02G + 1,85 vmch) board , because my P5K Deluxe has broken. :( Cpu worked stable @ 4,0Ghz, 1,34vcore at P5K deluxe board.

Before I installed E8400, I had updated BIOS to ver 2801. With E8400, the lowest voltage available to me is 1.3625. When vcore is set to AUTO, bios HW monitor show 1,19V, but when I set manually cpu voltage to 1.400, the bios hardware monitor show 0.968. I checked 1,500v - HW monitor show 1,08V.

I need 1,3V real for my cpu at P5W...

I checked 2602, 2704 bios ver too, but it is not working too... still have the same problem.

Yesterday I talked with one user of this forum and he said that 1.02g owners can only use AUTO voltage setting with 45nm cpus.

Is there another way to resolve this problem or should I wait for new bios from Asus?

If you want a new BIOS, you should call or write ASUS just as mikepaul did above and report the problem. And no, there is no other solution for manual vcore settings for 45nm cpus on 1.02g revision boards.

My p5w can do 8*400 but I can't get into windows when I'm on 400*9 with

1.5 Vcore?? my e6600 is l641f ..should I try 1.55?


My Settings:
Performance Mode: Auto
PCI Express Frequency: 100
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.2
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.4V
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V
ICH Chipset Voltage: 1.05V
Hyper Path 3: Disabled
Timings by SPD
C1E: Disable
EIST: Disable

rev 1.04G bios :2801

Thanks

Hkuve, my old E6600 cpu can run stable @ 3,6ghz with 1,600 vcore in BIOS (~1,56v real). I think 400x9 setting needs higher voltage if 400fsb works properly with 8x multipler. Check 1,55v but don't forget to check cpu's temperature.

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Originally Posted by Tamerlane

Still, you have taken things further by escalating and formalizing issue so let's hope ASUS takes it more seriously this time.

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I email-nudged the guy to whom I sent my form, to see if anything is happening. If I don't hear back from him in a few days, I'll call the first guy who contacted me.

I hate thinking the support-rollercoaster is on a permanemt downhill plunge...

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Originally Posted by pks1414

I am hoping someone can finally put me out of my misery. I had a Q6600 G0 given to me and I thought its worth having because of what I have seen as its overclocking qualities. Well I have tried everything and the best I get is 3.0ghz or if I use the 30% clock profile in the BIOS I can get up to 3.11.

I would be really grateful if anyone could give me some settings to try as I have been up and down the various changes and everytime I run orime it falls over on thread 4 within seconds.

I have an arctic freezer pro 7 and at 3.00 idle CPU temps are around 35.

Running Vista 64-bit with 4gb of 6400C5DHX RAM (timings at 5-5-5-18)

BIOS version 27.04

Like I said, if I am told thats as good as it gets, so be it, wait for a new motherboard

Thanks

Paul

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Bios Settings are as follows:


ASUS P5WDH Dlx Overclock Settings

CPU : Q6600 Bx
DDR2 : Crucial Ballistic 4GB (4 x 1GB)
Bios : 2004
VGA : 1 ATI HD 2900XT 1GB DDR4
HDD : WD Raptor 150gb 16mb
PSU : Antec 650w Tri Rail
OS : Win Vista X64
Sound: Creative XFI Fatality Pro
OVERCLOCK (MHz) = 3406Mhz

BIOS SETTINGS

JumperFree Configuration

AI Overclocking set to: MANUAL

CPU Frequency : 378MhZ
DRAMM Frequency :758Mhz (1:1 according to CPUZ)

Performance Mode :Turbo
PCI Express Frequency : 100Mhz
PCI Clock Sync Mode : 33.33Mhz

Memory Voltage : 2.2v
CPU Vcore Voltage : 1.5
FSB Termination V : 1.4
MCH Chipset V : 1.65
ICH Chipset V : 1.2
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CPU Configuration

Microcode Update : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Execute Disable Function : Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control : Disabled
Virtualization Technology : Disabled
Intel SpeedStep Technology : Disabled
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Advanced Chipset Settings (DDR2)

Configure DRAM Timing By SPD : MANUAL
DRAM CAS Latency : 4
DRAM RAS Precharge : 4
DRAM RAS To CAS Delay : 4
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge Delay : 12
DRAM Write Recovery Time : 4

Hyper Path 3 : Disabled
DRAM Throttling : Disabled
Memory Remap: Enabled


Now your ram may not run a the same specs as mine so I would start with the timmings loose and conservative. Then once your CPU is stable @ 3.4ghz I would start to try and tighten them up.

Hi guys, i have this board at the moment with latest bios and im running a e8400 @ stock, i can also get it up to 3.8. But my problem is getting this board to boot with my gtx280 @ pciex16, anybody know how to do this ? if i try to boot up with the gtx280 in the orange pcie slot then it just doesnt turn on. if this is a bios setting then can somebody please tell me what i need to change in the bios, as i cant see anything relating to pcie speed. thanks in advance,
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2672/desksu2.jpg

Question, are people here running the 8gb black dragon kit on this board? I'm running 4x1gb regular ( red ihs ) geil sticks atm but I need more ram in both this system as my other one so I'm about to order the black dragon kit so I can move this 4x1 to the other system and put the black dragon here. The manual/page says 8gb is supported, but there is no qualified vendor list I can find so I'm aksing you all.

Already looked if I could afford a new mobo, the increase in possible fsb would make it worthwhile but I can't spend the money atm. This will be my christmas gift for myself if I hear it will do fine :yepp:

I recently replaced my 6600 with an 8500 CPU on my 1.02g P5WDH (summer 2006 vintage).

It went fairly smoothly. I had to run BIOS 1801 to get rid of a microcode update error, and it took a few installs and a CMOS clear to make that work, and also to get back the 9.5 multiplier.

The CPU voltage has to be left on auto (CPU-Z reads 1.18V) as the lowest manual voltage in the menu is above the rated 1.26V maximum for this CPU. I also left C1E enabled since the voltage is auto.

The limitation to overclocking with my board is the north bridge (MCH). First, HyperPath3 must be disabled. Second, it needs a good heat sink (I use a tower HR-05). Third, it maxes out at 375 with 4-4-4-12-4 timing and 385 with SPD timing (375 at 1.60V, 385 at 1.65V).

I settled on the 375 timing (CPU at 3.567 GHz), which runs the NB a bit cooler and gives slightly better system performance due to better memory timings.

I have an original Ninja on the CPU with a slow Nexus fan. At idle, the fan is set at 44% (630 RPM - silent) and the CPU is 48C. Under Orthos, the fan speeds up to 65% and the CPU is 63C (the SpeedFan set point). The room ambient was 25C when these temperatures were measured.

Although this wonderful motherboard is very near end of life, it ain't quite dead yet! :clap:

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Originally Posted by cmthomson

I recently replaced my 6600 with an 8500 CPU on my 1.02g P5WDH (summer 2006 vintage).

It went fairly smoothly. I had to run BIOS 1801 to get rid of a microcode update error, and it took a few installs and a CMOS clear to make that work, and also to get back the 9.5 multiplier.

The CPU voltage has to be left on auto (CPU-Z reads 1.18V) as the lowest manual voltage in the menu is above the rated 1.26V maximum for this CPU. I also left C1E enabled since the voltage is auto.

The limitation to overclocking with my board is the north bridge (MCH). First, HyperPath3 must be disabled. Second, it needs a good heat sink (I use a tower HR-05). Third, it maxes out at 375 with 4-4-4-12-4 timing and 385 with SPD timing (375 at 1.60V, 385 at 1.65V).

I settled on the 375 timing (CPU at 3.567 GHz), which runs the NB a bit cooler and gives slightly better system performance due to better memory timings.

I have an original Ninja on the CPU with a slow Nexus fan. At idle, the fan is set at 44% (630 RPM - silent) and the CPU is 48C. Under Orthos, the fan speeds up to 65% and the CPU is 63C (the SpeedFan set point). The room ambient was 25C when these temperatures were measured.

Although this wonderful motherboard is very near end of life, it ain't quite dead yet! :clap:

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What vga do you have, i cant get the board to start with my gtx280 in the orange slot and it wont run above pciex x8 in the second slot!! I have a e8400.

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Originally Posted by corex2

What vga do you have, i cant get the board to start with my gtx280 in the orange slot and it wont run above pciex x8 in the second slot!! I have a e8400.

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I have a single 9800GT video card. It works fine in the top PCI-e slot. To make it silent, I replaced its heat sink with an Accelero S1 rev 2, and strapped on a slow fan.

The second PCI-e slot can never run x16 on this board. The only way to get x16 is with a single card plugged into the top slot. If you populate the second slot (whether running one card or two), both slots drop to x8.

The system wont boot with my gtx280 in the first slot, fans start to blow then slow down then blow again then slow down, but no post to the bios ??? any ideas why

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Originally Posted by corex2

The system wont boot with my gtx280 in the first slot, fans start to blow then slow down then blow again then slow down, but no post to the bios ??? any ideas why

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Just a guess: sounds to me like one of the 12V rails on your power supply is overloaded and shutting down. You may need a bigger/better supply for this graphics card.

Really wild guess: did you attach the auxiliary 6-pin power cable to the video card? This card draws more than 75W which is the maximum the PCI-e connector will supply.