The San Diego OC DISCUSSION Thread

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Originally Posted by FragTek

To be honest... I've tried 3 4000+ San Diego's now and they've all sucked mad balls in the OC department.

The last one I had was the best, which would do 2,977 stable but at a whopping 1.75v, the one before that would only do 2915 stable @ 1.65v, and my current one only does 2850 stable @ 1.6v.


Fed up with these damned Diego's. Ready for my Opty 146 to come in... ugh.

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What are you talking about? Those are great speeds.

If you want to see results, get a 3700+ San Diego or even a smaller chip. Because of their lower stock speeds, you overclock them further to reach the 2.8-2.9Ghz area so you think you're getting a better OC, which in reality isn't true, you're just starting farther back so you have to ramp up more Mhz to reach the same speed that a 2.4Ghz 4000+ only has to gain another 4-500Mhz to reach, instead of 6-700Mhz of the 3700+.

I have a 3700+ KABGE 0529APAW San Diego that's prime/memtest/3dmark stable at 2.85Ghz (317x9) with 1.66vcore. My temps are 36ºC idle and 46ºC load.

I am curious to mind my minimal voltage at stock clocks on my 3700+. I am running 200x11.0 right now testing Prime Stable at v1.3. Who has played with this so far...

In real if i ask this is really cause i have trouble for stabilise my OC...

I use OCZ PC4800 Plat. TCCD and really if they run well under memtest at 615Mhz without error (witout tweaks a lot too) I don't arrive work under windows at 300x9
or 300x8... This begin really make me crazy... Under memtest i have no errors at all with an OC at 302x10 and higher ( test loop 5+8 and Full during 4Hours minimum at each speed) At 300x8 or x9 i can't enter windows without crash directly after some seconds.. :slobber: .

I have change for the 3700+ only for use the DDR at 600Mhz and ... nothing to do.. i don't arrive at this.

Actually i m Prime stable at 265x11 (268x11 too) with 2.5-3-3-7 1T, Tref 4708.

It s pehraps too the Win X64 doing this. The Win X64 work on memory controller,
remap the memory and increase the possibility of Virtual memory.
Normally the X64 instructions increase the virtual memory potential.. this is do for server.. The virtual memory max of a OS32Bit is 16Go for 4Go of Phisical DDR when the OS 64Bit can allow 16To and can work with 32Go of phisycal memory. It s clear, its absolutely not useful with actual desktop motherboard . But this will pehrpas the OS64 work on memory.. So the ask with the stability when OC

If you have an idea...I take

Small Update 3160MHZ 1.56V Cooled with WC IHS OFF !!

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/da...3160-1_56V.JPG

Hello all, i've been read this forums for a long time, but im think this is my first post on it .. so, please , excuse my english.

STONKA, what kind of revision is ur SD ? SH-E4?? , i didnt ever seen nothing about this revision.

508EPMW 3700+ but Cpu-Z 1.30 show SH-E4 old version 1.29 show E4 !!

Thats all :)

- Report of Stonka post

" Small Update 3160MHZ 1.56V Cooled with WC IHS OFF !! "

What is "IHS" ????

And Stonka can you tell me plz what is the DDR you use..?
I m curious... lol

For the "SH E4"... I have verify on AMD, there's no "E4" Certainly the CPU- Z have shorted the revision or AMD have change name since 1.29.

All revision is named SH-xx in real...

Other thing... what do you think about this .. yesterday i have do
a prime during 2 Hours... No errors.. I boot this morning at same settings, same bios and.. hmm Prime fail directly... Speed fan show no big variation on all voltage, in real only the 12V decrease when begin full load (Prime) but only of 0.03V and stay stable then. all other are stable..
Only thing i have do is cleaned my rad of my Watercooling this have give me a decrease of 3°C..lol
PSU problem??

IHS = Head Spread of A64er chip !! remove = without and you become better Temps !

I dont think PSU you have 630 Watt !! I have 480 Watt Tagan U01 and this is OK for my SD and 3160MHZ !!

mayby ram ??? it is very dificult to say this and this could be wrong that your pc is not stable at the moment with prime95.

Nice if it's remove temp. I havethink it can be that but was not sure.. :D
But i can't with my CPU cooler (Watercooling) the pression will be really too high without the Heatspreader, the cooler is fixed with a screw on middle of it. Screw on with a dynamometric key.. at 37-40 Kg

I think the OS x64 is pehraps a problem too... More i look and more i think the X64 instructions unlocked give bad thing in OC... The Win X64 is working on memory controller. the x64 instructions work on the memory use and Pagination, virtual memory. it can work with 16Go of DDR vs only 4Go for the 32bit...
Acutally i have some problem with this OCZ... a pain to stabilise at 300Mhz..
Ok some memory controller of the 3700+ don't work with a 300FSB... my CPU can't pehraps.. other i have make run the metest during 4 hours this morning at same settings... No error.. Directly when i am under windows.. instability come.. I will say i can play at BF2 all Graphics at max 4xAA and 4-8AF without crash..
32M pass and the OCCT too..
Pehraps the mobo... my PSU have 2 Rails 20A + 18A, this is enough for SLI system... but i don't know pehraps the mobo have a problem.

for the OS i will see today i go buy one Win XP Pro 32bit today.
Anyway i keep the x64 and will see if there's a difference.

I am looking to buy either a 3700+ or a 4000+ San Diego. I can get the 3700+ for about 90 dallars cheaper. What I am looking for is to run it at 2.6 Ghz without alot of volts. Other than the 200Mhz faster, is the 4000+ virtualy identical to the 3700+? I will be cooling with a big typhoon 120mm air cooler. What would u guys recommend?

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Originally Posted by im20nrollinhigh

I am looking to buy either a 3700+ or a 4000+ San Diego. I can get the 3700+ for about 90 dallars cheaper. What I am looking for is to run it at 2.6 Ghz without alot of volts. Other than the 200Mhz faster, is the 4000+ virtualy identical to the 3700+? I will be cooling with a big typhoon 120mm air cooler. What would u guys recommend?

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I think the 3700+ would be fine...I was running 2.75GHz fine 24/7 @ v1.63

Really hard to say... the core is similar... But one thing interessant for OC the 4000+ have the multi at 12x... If you fall on a good revision the 3Ghz is easy to get... In real all depend of the revision.. I f you don't want OC a lot... Hmm the the 2600 is easy to have. with both..

he he... My 3700+ begin to give me pleasure... Now i can boot easy at 276x11 or 300x10... Prime not stable.. need tweaks and work for more for this.
anywise the major part of instability seems gone at the time i have reinstall a XP Pro 32bit... ( i was on X64 before.)

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3297/276x110en.jpg

Edirt... possible to bench now at 273x11: 3003Mhz...

I am running my 3700 sandie @ 2850 on 1.51 vcore... it's a KAB2E 0532 XPMW stepping... seems like a good OCer, but my mobo does no run a mem divider which is not 1:1 with the fsb and be prime stable, for some reason. it's bizarre... games work though..... and my memory will not go over 260, so I am sort of stuck at the moment @ 259x11... I ran it at 273x11 with the 10:9 mem divider, with only 1.566 vcore and was gaming and benching... 28.5s 1M super pi times... but prime would fail... I am in the market for new mems, Crucial Ballistix tracers (2gb kit) and a DFI SLI-DR expert mobo.. when it's available (~ 1 month). I have a feeling this cpu will get prime stable @ 3ghz... and go beyond... it's not too voltage thirsty, so I am thinking it will have a nice top end. :)

EDIT: here's the proof :)
http://venus.walagata.com/thumbs/agunn_3k.jpg
but I will be damned if it does not fail prime right away... but that's a nice low vcore for 3ghz! w00t. :banana: :banana: :banana:

My San Diego 3700+ can do 2860 on box air cooling.

I think it can reach about 2900-3000 with som more volt and whem my watercooling gets finished.
ASA3700DAASBN
CABGE 0516TPAW
1240918D50579

Im planning to buy a 3700+ San Diego and yesterday i visited the local computer store and they had the following stepping in stock:
ADA3700DAA5BN
KABYE 0535RPMW
1317119H50118

I have searched alot on the web but can't find any overclocking results on it. Would be glad if anyone could show me/link some results with this stepping.

I have not seen that KABYE stepping before... mine is KAB2E... and 0535 seems very new. mine is 0532 and it's a good OCer... Anyways, it's hard to tell what results you will get, but you could blaze the trail to the new stepping OCing results. :)

Yup...that is how it has to be done...Mine did 2.75GHz just fine no problems really.

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Originally Posted by Fiskekrok

Im planning to buy a 3700+ San Diego and yesterday i visited the local computer store and they had the following stepping in stock:
ADA3700DAA5BN
KABYE 0535RPMW
1317119H50118

I have searched alot on the web but can't find any overclocking results on it. Would be glad if anyone could show me/link some results with this stepping.

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I just bought a 3700+ a couple days ago, it was this exact stepping kabye 0535. I just got around to overclocking it today and with little burn in, its doing 3200 stable. This is a great chip, its only on an original prommie. Im sure it has 3300 in it. Now for some memory thatll do 300 fsb.

whoa... damn... nice! what vcore does it need for 3.2??

I only had to put it at 1.35 x 110%, however I was messing with the memory trying to get it to go higher. I had to bump it up cause im in a rush right now, but here it is at 3.2@ 1.5 volts. When i have a day I will see what she can really do. http://home.comcast.net/~impulse/3700/3700.jpg

ouch... this revision seems really be on the best i have seen... really low Vcore needed...

getting my diego 3700+ on thursday along with the pcp&c 510 sli, really excited! :D

had to do it after recently having a nightmare buying a 3000+ venice from compusa because i was impatient, and immediately after installing it and seeing the 95C temps, my inspection resulted in the ihs ripping completely off the chip, stuck to the p90! i have never even HEARD of this happening before. i've destroyed a 3000+ winchester by removing the ihs in the past, so i know how hard it is to get those off sometimes. :P (that winny was a good overclocker too, 2.6ghz on air).

oh well, can't wait for these parts to complete my rig (for now)!

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Originally Posted by Fiskekrok

Im planning to buy a 3700+ San Diego and yesterday i visited the local computer store and they had the following stepping in stock:
ADA3700DAA5BN
KABYE 0535RPMW
1317119H50118

I have searched alot on the web but can't find any overclocking results on it. Would be glad if anyone could show me/link some results with this stepping.

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Go and get it!

I got a KABYE 0537 APMW
Stock voltage goes to 2.7G
With 1.63V (Indeed, can be less than that voltage), goes to 2.9G with original HSF, passed many time 3Dmark....

http://img41.imagevenue.com/loc98/th_188_0537.JPG

http://img11.imagevenue.com/loc81/th_03d_3D01_34036.JPG

Okay I've read some really bad things about, especially the 4000+ Sandy's with the CABGE which I've got. Well I've got the CABGE 0528 CPAW and I managed to run Superpi's 32mb at 2.75 @ 1.44Vcore (ignore the CPUZ vcore.....that one is incorrect) all done on stock HSF. The CPU temps was 46 under load at that stage.....had cool weather for a change which helped a bit.

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1...32mb8fy.th.jpg

I know it's not brilliant, but I did also manage to hit 2.9Ghz @ 1.63Vcore last night, didn't want to go higher on the Vcore, so 3Ghz is out of the question till I get better cooling....if at all possible, I might add.