Apogee GTZ

Printable View

Show 100 post(s) from this thread on one page

08-15-2008, 04:33 PM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcoffey

If I say something it's honest. I make a 6 figure salery, and could get 100 blocks here tomorrow with a single click of the mouse, throw them in the trash, and it wouldn't effect my financial well being in the least. So I have no reason to miss represent something at all.

It's a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing hobby, it's not worth my integrity.

So if I'm not looking good to you right now, you can go take a flying leap off the nearest building. And please do so quickly.

andyc

I hope this wasnt directed at me.
08-15-2008, 04:34 PM
IanY

Excuse me, its only a forum, and its only a hobby. I wasn't going to chime in, but please just relax.

This is ONLY A WATER BLOCK. Not war and peace. Not life and death.

No need to fling such negativity.. both directions..
08-15-2008, 04:37 PM
Xilikon

Yes, chill off guys... I think that Andy wished to show the results to make sure it's not too different. I will just shut up and wait till numbers is posted.
08-15-2008, 04:39 PM
IanY

Let's all post our W2s online. Forget that.. how about the full 1040, including all schedules ?

How ridiculous does this have to get? Talking about income? How about investable assets and net worth as well ?
08-15-2008, 04:41 PM
majestik

Don't think we have those in canada!

But, feel free to give me your online banking information and i'll.. validate it for you!
08-15-2008, 04:41 PM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xilikon

Yes, chill off guys...

was my comment at all directed with hostility?
08-15-2008, 04:44 PM
gillbot

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcoffey

If I say something it's honest. I make a 6 figure salery, and could get 100 blocks here tomorrow with a single click of the mouse, throw them in the trash, and it wouldn't effect my financial well being in the least. So I have no reason to miss represent something at all.

It's a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing hobby, it's not worth my integrity.

So if I'm not looking good to you right now, you can go take a flying leap off the nearest building. And please do so quickly.

andyc

This is the dumbest statement i've ever seen on this forum. I don't make 6 figures? I guess that further proves i'm not worthy of a GTZ? :rofl: :up:

My point is, the string on that block must be tight if you need to have them review your findings instead of just letting everyone know. I should just buy one and post an HONEST review myself, but since I don't make 6 figures I guess I can't afford to do so. :clap:
08-15-2008, 04:45 PM
IanY

Its A F0king $59 Water Block!!! {as per PPCs}
08-15-2008, 04:46 PM
Movieman

Thank you Ian..

To the others here, who I know and consider friends.
There's been some things said here that shouldn't have been.
Came across even to me who knows you as not exactly friendly.
Shall we say that this was said due to excitement over wanting to see results and bury this?
Some honest advice here:
Never,Never,Never write in anger. I've made that mistake a few times and lived to regret it.
Never let the little things in life such as a hobby get in the way of the more important things such as friendships.
It just isn't worth it and what are we talking about realistically?
If one waterblock runs at 1-2C hotter than another?
In day to day use what damned difference does it make unless your system is at the absolute limits of it's cooling and then realistically you should probably have a bigger radiator or add another or increase the fans cabability to whisk away that heat.
I'm not expert here, far from it, but losing friendships over this is just plain dumb.
Now I'm going to say this and hopefully the people involved don't get their panties in a bunch over it but there's two people here that I beleive owe Andy an apology.
He's too good a guy for the treatment he got here tonight.
08-15-2008, 04:47 PM
Xilikon

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaeKuh

was my comment at all directed with hostility?

Maybe not but I said that to everyone... It's just a waterblock :rofl:

If gabe know that we want a independent review, he should not have strings attached when sending review samples ;) However, since we don't know what Andy, Martin and Scott agreed with them, we cannot comment about that :shrug:
08-15-2008, 04:51 PM
gillbot

I'm not with the norm here, to me 1-2°C isn't enough difference to pull my rig apart and buy a new $70 block. Hell, I am still running an apogee GT with a Dtek FuZion v1 still sitting in the box. Many of the reviews i've seen place the Apogee GT near the performance of the V1 FuZion so it just isn't worth it to me.
08-15-2008, 04:55 PM
IanY

I can see Naekuh meeting with his private bankers tomorrow to get a second lien mortgage on his Beverly Hills home to order about 100,000 of those GTZ blocks hahaha
08-15-2008, 04:58 PM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanY

I can see Naekuh meeting with his private bankers tomorrow to get a second lien mortgage on his Beverly Hills home to order about 100,000 of those GTZ blocks hahaha

i live next door to you.

whatcho talking about? :rofl:
08-15-2008, 05:01 PM
Xilikon

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcoffey

They are checking my sheet that I used to compile the results for any errors. Or to check for abnormalities. It's a common courtesy and practice. It's the first block or any piece of gear that I didn't pay for out of pocket that I've tested. So I have 0 tolerance for any implication that I would some "sugar coat" or miss represent something just because I received a smaple, ot tested a prototype.

I'll put it to you another way. Gabe at Swiftech cares about the results and how it competes against the EK and D-TEK. I'm sure Danny at D-TEK and Eddie at EK do, but I could care less either way. I have no vested interest in how the block or any other one performs. I only have a vested interest in the way I test, and the acurate posting of those results. Which I've done each and everytime to the best of my ability.

There's already been several references to someone, somehow cooking the numbers or giving less than acurate information. It's uncalled for, period. So yeah, I get pretty pissed one someone points something like that my way, andI have a right to get pissed.

I'll say it one more time. It's a hobby, there's no motive to treat it otherwise.

andyc

Thanks, that's precisely what I thought about your motives and I would have done the same as courtesy.

Guys, let's think for a second : Everyone know Andy did the testing so if Gabe say the results cannot be posted, everyone will know it's fishy and just with that, Swiftech will lose the sales for sure due to the attempt to witthold the results.
08-15-2008, 05:03 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by gillbot

I'm not with the norm here, to me 1-2°C isn't enough difference to pull my rig apart and buy a new $70 block. Hell, I am still running an apogee GT with a Dtek FuZion v1 still sitting in the box. Many of the reviews i've seen place the Apogee GT near the performance of the V1 FuZion so it just isn't worth it to me.

A voice of reason..^^
I have two apogeeGt's on my dual clover.
Dropped the temps on those B1's from high 70's to 51C at load.
That to me is what a WC system should do.
Take unsafe temps and make them into safe ones.
Whether changing to another WB that is oneC cooler or hotter doesn't change this by one iota..
The testing to me is just to see if a certain block performs in the same temp range as the others out there.
If Gabe's unit runs 4-5C higher or lower than the rest THEN there's something to dicuss but not if it's within 1-2C of the rest either way.
From there it's looks and company preferance that decides not 1C of difference in observed temps.
08-15-2008, 05:05 PM
IanY

Gabe, I cannot tell you what to do, but if I were you, if RCHN were my company, I wouldn't hand out blocks to anybody anywhere for any reason. You should control info about your own product and ensure the integrity of information. Your product's capabilities should speak for itself, not some third party on some hobbyist forum. Look at the resulting nonsense. Just a kind suggestion, with full respect to you.
08-15-2008, 05:08 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaptCrunch

you're correct

I'm sorry if offended with my comments, I'll be quite for the flame wars early in this posting will rise.

Thank you very much..:up:
08-15-2008, 05:14 PM
MomijiTMO

Hilarious. Take a step back and see look at the slurs in this thread. It was over reviews being biased first then it progressed on to manipulated test results. I mean com'on =S.

PS : I want a 6 figure salary =( Can I have one please lol
08-15-2008, 05:17 PM
RickCain

Man I got a full truck load of popcorn out front waiting for results. :yepp:
08-15-2008, 05:18 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by MomijiTMO

Hilarious. Take a step back and see look at the slurs in this thread. It was over reviews being biased first then it progressed on to manipulated test results. I mean com'on =S.

PS : I want a 6 figure salary =( Can I have one please lol

I have yet to see any proof of any review being biased.
I recently reviewed a motherboard and I sent the review in to that company before posting for two reasons: courtesy and to make sure I didn't have a spec wrong..
No bias at all, just covering my backside to make sure all the facts were right.
Yes, I would also like a 6 figure salary,5 would also work at this stage..:D

Show 100 post(s) from this thread on one page