No overclocks are guaranteed, even some VPMWs have trouble doing 2.8-2.9. And poor Nealh's barely does 2.7.
EDIT: if you were referring to Grinch's post 3099 those are an 0546XPMW
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No overclocks are guaranteed, even some VPMWs have trouble doing 2.8-2.9. And poor Nealh's barely does 2.7.
EDIT: if you were referring to Grinch's post 3099 those are an 0546XPMW
I know =\
Course, it seems everyone with a VPMW that doesnt do well has high temps.
wish ida got a vpmw instead of this upmw
there flying..
Ima end up with a UPMW I beleive... may sell it depending on results.
VPMW overclocks seem to have a lot to do with controlling temperature.
mine does just fine at 1.35V 2.8ghz, but increasing much more than that and I get heat problems (50C full load)...
take my results with a grain of salt this was my first time to build a pc :)
Absolute, does the chart you are compiling control for cooling solution used? It seems like if this variable is not controlled for it will have a much larger influence on reported results than batch
I just want 3ghz.... willing to push to 1.55v for it, but I'd rather 1.45-1.5
Or like the lucker Absolute0, 1.4v :bs:
SameQuote:
Originally Posted by CompGeek
Anone still selling these retail vpmw's?
I might just have ti snatch up on one..
Dunno, Im all over one as soon as Dave @ Flickerdown gets any.
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Originally Posted by ceevee
Yes, i list all the CPUs, cooling, load temps, voltage, and max stable clocks. And then i rank them. And based on the ranking, i give them points. Let me show you the chart
This is UNBELIEVABLY ghetto, i apologize, but this is quite a few results ranked... afew of them are kind of off, for example Grinch's 0358 i marged into the 035x because they were about the same, but i forgot that was before he removed the IHS, nevertheless the trends are similar.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...l/097ace93.jpg
The biggest trend is that right after the worst chips, is a good one.
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Originally Posted by CompGeek
I'd like to know what this is all about? I got a good chip, lucky or not, i am tired of you whining about it in every post you make that you know i'm liable to read. Just stop trying to compete with me, stop trying to confront me, stop trying to whine/argue with me, i'm done with it.
Jealousy, thats all :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
I have 8 pts! Btw absolute, what batch # are you and how far on stock volts did you get?
The only ones that got 8 pts are mine and Rufus'
My stock volts is 1.31, it's fully prime stable at 2.9 on 1.31 with watercooling, now with the IHS removed it might do a little more like 2.92 with 1.31
Absolute, did I ever mention how lucky you are?
jp with ya dude, hope my 170 can hit 3ghz, albeit at higher voltage.
I just went by batch #. I have a 0154 iirc.
jeje, to much talk here...now go and do that 3.2 primer:stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
..attending classes and such, all is just in the way here...:slap:
Before I went to sleep I had hopes for a excellent 3.2'er waiting in the board for my breakfast reading...but nono, nothing here.
Bad boy, baaaad boy:slapass:
hehehe, I just know I got some :slash: coming my way now...
Eh it's been running Rosetta. I'm doing physics. Maybe 3.2 tonight maybe not.
Reserve this post for 3.2 action... sometime :P
Gentlemen - start your engines! Priming at 3.2 with 1.55v ;)
:toast:
Take thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Clint
FX60 OWNED
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...l/d529caf7.jpg
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Originally Posted by Absolute_0
well, post the screenshot already. all 42:43 of it:D
edit:nvm, beat me 2 it
congrats absolute thats amazing, not too crazy volts either :toast:
Same as mine, is it only the later steppings ware core 0 is weaker generally ?Quote:
Originally Posted by thebeast
Thats a MAJOR Kickass clock!!!!:woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
Ok my opteron 165 (CCBWE 0602BPMW) now with ihs removed doesnt go any harder then 2665mhz stable @ 1.45volt,also higher voltage doesnt help me because the temparature goes to high.
If i play games like battlefield 2 the temp is +-40 celsius.
With prime is goes to 50-53 celsius :stick:
I think i go check the contact between the core and the zalman 7000 fullcopper,i havent modified anything for this because i think it makes contact?
Or must i modify something :confused:
Best graph ever! LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
Congrats, mate. Hell of chip you got!
does that graph counts for the 165 to? i thought 170 only.
Man now if that graph counts for my 165,i am ready to kill a :horse: :D
Absolute, here is mine --> batch is #562Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4879/3ghz12h0nt.th.jpg
Do you pop popcorn on you HD :D
168 & 523, both can do 10x300 or 11/273 (2Gmem on 523) so far. Says 1.3... on bios (liars, DMM says 1.45-1.48)
Rosetta Stable.
I just downloaded the latest Tcase, and my Opteron 170 reading is 53 C. Previously, Tcase showed a reading of 49 C like was previously posted. Could someone clarify what the Tcase reading means, and if/why it is important?
On my 165 it said 49C... but there were no issues when I hit 51C (as high as it ever wnt)Quote:
Originally Posted by kberguy1
I really dont think its very useful.
Case TemperatureQuote:
Originally Posted by kberguy1
Also called Tcase Max within AMD processor datasheets, this value indicates the maximum temperature the processor case is allowed to reach and remain within recommended operating temperature.
Taken from http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/glossary.aspx
hmm.... and it can go up??
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Originally Posted by Absolute_0
Awesome man! :woot: :toast:
quick question what did you set bios to, to get 1.568?
Umm...can anyone please guide me a bit?Quote:
Originally Posted by xfachx
And nice oc'ing everyone!
I wouldn't think so... Probably the program has been updated to handle optys better?Quote:
Originally Posted by CompGeek
Guys I never tried to lower volts before
so last night
2.8GHZ, only 1.29V, dual prime stable six hours plus :D
I know once I get the peltiers cooler this will be a 3ghz chip too when I can make voltage = 1.5~1.55 :banana:
proof: :fact:
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1601/26te.th.jpg
2GB, 250-270 FSB, 2.6Vdimm -newegg
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Originally Posted by xfachx
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Originally Posted by ceevee
What was your load temps with that Zalman?
So, I can prime each core at 2950Mhz, but not together. Possible heat issue? Temps are 52C. Just couldn't wait for water... :P
Definately heat...at that frequency you should stay under 45C..voltage will not do you any good .Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
@ Grinch, 1.55 + 104%
@ Thunderstruck, definitely heat, 52cload makes VPMWs cry, get them cooler.
Load temp is 43C with the Zalman at stock volts
-can't go much higher frequency right now because temp problems develop quickly
I have a fear of razor blades, or at least of razor blades that make costly mistakes:) . Is it possible that the silicone sealant holding the IHS on my Opteron 170 would disolve if the processor was soaking overnight in it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinch
Quote:
Originally Posted by kberguy1
1 sure way to find out.....nike that thing....just do it! :toast:
Try also different drivstrengths.. That helped on my previous OPTY. try the different settings and see if there is any improvement!Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
my new 0550 VPMW 50393 batch all air cooling default vcore 2800mhz :toast: still testing.... http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/1...shot0025er.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
Quick question before I upgrade.
I have a Venice 3000+ at 2.6ghz (1.55volts :( ). Am I pretty much sure to get at least 2.6 on a 165?
Yeah, even the worst 165 should do 2.6, but of course no guarantees. I think with decent cooling, you should be able to hit over 2.7 Ghz 90% of the time.
Course that's decent cooling, decent PSU, decent mobo, etc.
That's what I think after reading parts of the thread. I guess I can't go wrong considering I pay nothing for the upgrade.
times i wish I had water.
My memory has a lot to do with it also. If i keep my memory at 200mhz with loose timings, i can be stable at 3gighz.
If i do 2-2-2-5 @ 250 w/ cpu at 3gighz, then it fails prime.
right now I am rock stable at 2900 w/ 2-2-2-5/241mhz
Heat is killing me. No matter, I am off to yonah-land anyway.
Nice chip 0550 VPMW :banana: air cooling TT.BT + silverstone FM121 110cfm 1.392v @ 3000mhz :fact: http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/124...shot0095nc.jpg
Good chip, what load temps are you seeing?
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Originally Posted by Absolute_0
hey man you scored a 632 batch yet?
room temp 12c.. idle 30-32c.. 2x prime full load 43c-45c Thermaltake Big Typhoon + Silverstone 110cfm ;) nice batch 50393 :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
Beats mine. Take up the fight with Clint and his wonder CPU.
? No i think i'm done buying stuff for a while. I'm pretty happy with 3.15.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinch
ok cool....12C ambient....freezing A$$ off....LOL.......:toast:
That is one really hot chip you have there.. I see lower temps at 1.45v in 25C ambient, with same cooler :eek: But I guess temps don't really matter when it clocks like that :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by 865pe
Max on boxed cooler with 25C room temp. Water should be running by friday.:banana: . Clint was dead on. The magic temp to stay under is 46-47C. Anything above immediately fails. I'm using small ftt, v24.14.
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7392/pic10yb.jpg
no kidding, the 0550 VPMW is awesome if you can keep it cool.
It is a love hate relationship i have with the chip
That batchnumber is pretty close to mine..:)Quote:
Originally Posted by 865pe
Try unmark "no affinity" and change "priority" to 9 on both cores.
Hehe, nah...no more 10C ambient for me:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute_0
That was just for emulating water cooling, sort of.
Lapping the core is the next step for me.:D
Great!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
It still looks like you are on too high volts for that speed, It's that stock cooler that is forcing you to pump those volts in there.
When you get water (decent one) I'm quite sure you will do 2.8-2.9GHz at stock vcore.:toast:
I couldn't even load windows @ 2800 auto vcore. I'll be using a storm, pa120.2, with 2x 110CFM fans, so I'm just hoping for the magic 3.
just ordered another 0550VPMW maybe it will be golden chip? :toast:
where r u guys getting ur chips from?
WHEW....... I just pulled the trigger on a 175 Denmark from the egg... should be here on thursday... color me excited... I got the OEM version.. 30 days warr is enough for me... as long as it works the top is coming off it anyways. w00t.
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Originally Posted by situman
just ordered from ebay......retail,unopened,etc....
Heh, with that you will most certainly reach 3GHz.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
I have a worst 165 (ccbwe 0602bpmw) and it does 2.6 stable max,no problems with hours battlefield 2 gaming etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ROcHE
So like Absolute_0 says,most of the time you will get 2.5-2.6ghz with even a not that good 165 opteron :slobber:
So my opty doesnt want higher as 2.6,but it is good enough for me,because that is already fx60 speeds :clap:
My last try is to put a artic silencer pro 64 on the naked core tomorrow instead of my zalman 7000 fullcopper.
If that doesnt satisfy me i go for a watercooling i guess,but i am afraid of water in my pc :slobber:
Other question from me to the guys on this forum:
If i am not satisfy with the artic cooler,is this a good watercooling for me?
http://www.asetek.com/main/page.asp?sideid=763
Ihave a epox 9nda3+ motherboard and a x800pro vivo @ xt platinum.
@865pe
Good Values:)
Thanks. Will come back with results shortly ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tinuz97
Sooooo... I am sure this has been asked many times, and gotten many different answers, but what OC will I need to essentially "beat" (in loose terms) my current single core cpu (3.0ghz) in gaming power, this assuming using the newest Nvidia drivers with good dual core optimaztions, etc.. I was thinking anything above 2.7ghz I should see decent performance enhancements for cpu bound operations... but maybe that number is lower now with better dual core support? depending on the app also.. anyways....
wishing I had the cpu now to play with... gah!!!!! heh
PS: Has anyone gotten an OEM 175 from the egg? on the pic they have up it's a ccbwe 0543tpmw.. and the one comment below it says he/she got that same stepping.. although I doubt I will also being that the comment is over 2 mos old.. I hope to get a good stepping.. hope hope hope!!! :D
thanks :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by FutureOfTheKing
I am looking into getting an Opeteron 170 but am unsure at which one to get.
I've been searching and searching for the best combo for me. It will have to endure -40C and I want it to clock well without a cold bug.
Anyone have an 0550 VPMW under phase?
How do the 0550 UMPW's do under phase?
If anyone has any good info for me or a cpu they'd like to sell me please let me know. Thanks
0550VPMW's are the most temp picky 170s there are.
Over 45C they crap out, phase also causes them to crap out. You want GOOD water for them. Somthing to keep them around 45 @ up to 1.55v.
Neither one will do -40C core temps, you need to look at an LDBHE X2.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueAqua
Clint, your chip is excellent! :clap:
I say:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
...to bad it's not getting spanked properly, I need some watercooling set up before I can go on a head to head with Absolute_0 :D
I'm having a hard time getting that Apex Kit with a Storm block over here, it takes a bit of tinkering dodging our customs (25% tax).
This is how it looks like now:
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/680...e0630ri.th.jpg
Ambient 24C
wow.. nice vcore vs speed. whew.
Yesterday finally popped the IHS of my 165. Really dissapointed if you ask me. I only won 50mhz (priming), but the temps lowered 4-5c. I'm expecting the temps to lower a bit more, as before the process I had the AS5 really settled (applied last time 3 weeks ago).
The batch is #441, and the most I've got is: 294x9, 1.45v in BIOS, 43-44c load, 166 divider 3.2vdimm. I ended up at 2:30am so I will try different voltages etc tonight. I'll try to keep it (for the incoming summer) at stock volts whatever speed I get. If it's still to hot I will buy a 06 chips in hopes they're cooler or lower volts even more. Anyway won't notice too much betweenn 2450 and 2600, but temps have nothing to do, 45c vs. 38c :D
But as said, really dissapointed at the moment, expected a lot more from the IHS removal :(
I glued with epoxy the H plate in the TTBT and is a great idea, really helps a lot when mounting!
Hi all! Please go gentle on me as this is my first post ever!
Im having problems overclocking my 165 with stepping CCBWE 0551WPMW which after googling around seems like a decent stepping with people getting 2.4-2.6 on stock volts.
For this cpu I am using an ASUS A8N-E which seems like a good board that should hit 280HTT without breaking sweat. Bios is updated to 1011, which is the latest one. I use 2x512mb Winbond BH-5 in this setup. The PSU is a Levicom 550W ATX2.0 psu with a 20A rated +12v rail.
Once I set HTT above 210 the system wont load into XP at all. It just stops after post.
Using a divider, Ive always tried to make the ram run at 200mhz so I can use tight timings without too much voltage through the sticks.
So for example: my aim is to reach 2.6ghz (FX60) however I will not be dissapointed with 2.5 or even 2.4 on stock voltage.
HTT280, HT3 and ram at 133 = cpu 2.52 ram just over 200.
wont load Xp at all. I try HTT250, same thing. I try 230, same thing. First at 210 I actually managed to load XP.
PCI is locked to 33.3 and the other pci bus to 100.
Only the necesarry Nforce4 drivers are installed. No IDE SW driver, no NV internet security suite.
12v rail hoovers around 11.6v according to bios.
Im pretty lost tbh. I really would like to get this chip going. Even at 1.8 it is a damned fine cpu with the 2x1mb cache. However, it would be a waste not overclocking it and thats why I bought it.
Any help, ideas pointers would be happily received.
In exchange I give you cookies! ;)
Welcome Lord KneeGrow :toast:
Looks to me you need a more powerful PSU with minimum of 36A on the 12V rail :)
Agreed!!Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
So you think it is my PSU holding me back?
I thought this could be a problem :)
PSU wise I have been looking at the Antec Truepower and Smartpower series. You reckon the 480W and upwards would do the job?
The Hiper Type R 580W seems good too.
Can i just ask why? I have Tagan530-u15 wich has 33A on the 12v rail . I'm able running 3g on my opty. Do you think if i would change the psu that i could clock higher?Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
When I removed mine I saw about 8~10C' dropped, if yours already had good contact then you won't see much gain. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mursaat
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueAqua
There is one kick ass 0550 UPMW on ebay ;) also check on Tankguys as he often list the stepping for the Opteron.
If you want rock solid stability check out the PC Power & Cooling 510 series. They are pricey but they are the best. They not flashy like some of the popular brands but they don't care about that stuff. They are simply selling a high quality PSU that will last you for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord KneeGrow
You are perfectly fine with that as long as you are on a single GFX.Quote:
Originally Posted by no_n|ck
I spun my 170'er dual @3.1GHz with absolutely no probs.
:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
Well today i mounted the artic freezer 64 pro on my naked opty 165 core.
Also this cooler dont much cooldown the cpu compared to my zalman 7000 fullcopper,same temps :explode2:
Also i dont see that much difference with or without ihs on my opty,maybey 2 celcius,i think i have just bad luck with my opty,ok it is 2665mhz prime and hours of playing battlefield 2 stable,but with prime after 45 min the load temp is 58 celsius,to hot if you ask me.
Playing bf2 the temp doesnt go higher as 41 celcius,idle 29 :confused:
I think i need a good watercooler like a asetek waterchiller or something like that,maybey you guys can give me a advice,i am a complete watercooling noob.
Price is not that importend,i want a good 1 :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Lord KneeGrow
My first thought is HT Multi....
Sounds like you have not so good airflow in your chassi, if you can't supply the cool air it will not matter much if you remove the IHS...or change sinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by tinuz97
Weird i have a good flow for sure: CM Stacker(STC-T01) with 120mm in and out fan,80mm ontop that blows also air out,crossflow fan that blows on mobo and cpu,80mm on the left side on my case that blows cool air in to the cpu. :confused:
I think my opty just !@#$,a ccbwe 0602bpmw,according to that grafic also in this forum,few pages back.
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Originally Posted by tinuz97
you want a really good kit...go here if you order talk to Eric...he will make sure that you get "Storm" block...tell him Christian in Lakeland,FL told you to call him:
http://www.subzeropcs.com/swiftech_a...oling_kit.html
Agreed, as long as only one GFX card and not too much other stuff like 10x120mm fans, WC pumps etc :eek: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Clint
You should also make sure you do not use an HTT multu of more than 3 as CompGeek wisely stated, also try burn in which can sometimes lower your stable Vcore for a given OC :)
Oh and good luck ;)
wow, bummer.. whew. ok -Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord KneeGrow
Hrm.... my first thought is a remount... getting the sink perfectly flat on the core, with just the right amount of AS5 is the trick with a naked core. or so I have found with my own IHS removal experiences.. you don't need too much pressure, but make sure you take your time applying the AS5, make a super thin perfectly flat coat, then put the sink on, while it's planted on the core for the first time, very and ever so gently move it like it's a "stuck" knob, just slightly back and forth, to work out any air bubbles.. does that make sense? it took me three mounts to get mine right... good luck!
wootsauce, I flashed my 939DUAL-SATA2 with the ocwbeta2 bios and now I can get past that blasted 274HTT cap:banana: :woot:
Opteron 165 CCBWE 0546MPMW (am I the only one with a MPMW?)
289x9 at stock volts (1.35 BIOS, 1.360-1.376 CPU-Z) prime95ing for now.
I know its not xtreme to most, but it is to me. :p:
0550 VPMW Golden chip :toast: Air cooling TT.BT + Silverstone FM121 110cfm ( room temp 10c.. 1.480v idle 30-32 load 41-43c)
*sigh*
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