ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

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Originally Posted by daos

Well ladies and gents, I have some good news. I recently sold my OCZ and purchased some Corsair PC6400C4D Dominator memory and fired it up on the ole P5WDH Deluxe. Well, currently at 400x9 with 3-4-3-9 timings running solid as a rock. I just gamed in Rainbow Six:Vegas for about an hour and absolute rock stability with MANUAL timings at 400fsb.

It looks like the Corsaid C4D is capable of running manual timings with a fsb over 360 on the P5WDH.

I just thought I would pass this information along as we are all on a search to find a fix for this bug. Well, this is one way to go about it. Change memory.

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Hello all! I've been following this thread since late August in anticipation of building a new machine. You guys are a great resource! Thanks to the holiday, I now have a shiny new C2D system! :D

Just recently daos reported that his Corsair 6400C4 Dominator memory was working well. Unfortunately that is not the case for me. Only 1024 of 2048 mb is recognized no matter how it is installed (leading me to think that I have an issue with one of my modules) and that is causing it to run in single channel mode only. I have played a little with the BIOS settings with no luck.

Any suggestions? After the excitement of receiving parts all week long in the mail, this has been quite a bummer. :(

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Originally Posted by lawrywild

1.4v real :(

and yeh, course

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Mine is very strange. Needs 1.3625v to 3.0, 1,425 to 3.1 and 1.475v to 3.2 :eek:

Do you think 1.475v to 24x7 is too much? :stick:

J33pG33k : I would suggest the first thing you do, is try each module on it's own. If they both work individually, and memtest individually okay, then the issue is either with the board, or at least compatibility with the board.

Let's know how you get on with that first up.

Oh, and by the way (just noticed it's your first post here)... welcome!

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Originally Posted by Viper.Br

Mine is very strange. Needs 1.3625v to 3.0, 1,425 to 3.1 and 1.475v to 3.2 :eek:

Do you think 1.475v to 24x7 is too much? :stick:

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If those are bios settings, then they're the same as mine so..

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Originally Posted by lawrywild

Firstly, 300x9 is not 3Ghz, it's 2.7Ghz :rolleyes:

and either:

1. You know not much at all

or

2. You havn't even bothered to read the thread properly

Anyway, since you're such a genius, please tell us noobs why we can get over 400fsb with tRFC changed to 42 and setfsb and yet always limited to around 360fsb in bios with manual timings, no matter vcore/multiplier etc.

Actually, here's a better riddle. Why can we boot 400fsb+ with SPD to Enable but when manually setting 5-6-6-18 we can't post above about 360-370 fsb?

I'd like to know what the answer to that would be.. yeh and don't say the board/bios since we already know that and you'd just end up contradicting yourself and looking stupid.. :toast:

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Lawrywild, you are possibly the most patronising and 'know it all' troll that these boards can do without. So many of your posts are uneccessarily rude it defies belief. There really is no need for it and all you succeed in doing is causing bad feeling and not actually progressing the issues a lot of us with this board are having.

I'm sure no one cares what you think about all us idiots who make the odd mistake now and again so why not leave out the sarcasm and rudeness and keep it to yourself eh? :toast:

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Originally Posted by Viper.Br

Mine is very strange. Needs 1.3625v to 3.0, 1,425 to 3.1 and 1.475v to 3.2 :eek:

Do you think 1.475v to 24x7 is too much? :stick:

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Look at your temperatures in CoreTemp in idle, full load, and ultra full load (prime95/orthos). Some people say that full load (gaming, etc) is good enough for them to be in the 70c's or lower, others are happy with reaching 70c's in orthos. I'm pushing 1.61vcore with water and my cores hit 70-72 in prime95.

Good luck with your tweaking!

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Originally Posted by J33pG33k

Hello all! I've been following this thread since late August in anticipation of building a new machine. You guys are a great resource! Thanks to the holiday, I now have a shiny new C2D system! :D

Just recently daos reported that his Corsair 6400C4 Dominator memory was working well. Unfortunately that is not the case for me. Only 1024 of 2048 mb is recognized no matter how it is installed (leading me to think that I have an issue with one of my modules) and that is causing it to run in single channel mode only. I have played a little with the BIOS settings with no luck.

Any suggestions? After the excitement of receiving parts all week long in the mail, this has been quite a bummer. :(

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If only 1024 of 2048 memory is being recognized, you do probably have a bum dimm. I'd agree with above poster, to try each individual dimm to figure which one is bad.

I didn't bother reading the instructions of the board once I knew which pinheaders to plug my case (power,reset,audio,usb) and hdd's into, but thanks to a few people in here, they pointed out that to get Dual Interleaved memory, you have to put your dimms in the same coloured slots. Got 2? Use either black, black, or orange, orange. However, when i had them in different coloured ones, I still reported 2048 memory, it just didn't say Dual in cpu-z or Dual Interleaved while booting.

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Originally Posted by gaddster

Lawrywild, you are possibly the most patronising and 'know it all' troll that these boards can do without. So many of your posts are uneccessarily rude it defies belief. There really is no need for it and all you succeed in doing is causing bad feeling and not actually progressing the issues a lot of us with this board are having.

I'm sure no one cares what you think about all us idiots who make the odd mistake now and again so why not leave out the sarcasm and rudeness and keep it to yourself eh? :toast:

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Sorry if I sounded rude but I'm getting tired of writing the same thing over and over.. you should really look how many times I've explained the same thing over and over in this same thread..

edit: oh and it's kind of annoying when someone says "you should take this into account before blaming the board" as if I haven't already spent hours trying to figure and sort this out? Get my drift??

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Originally Posted by J33pG33k

Hello all! I've been following this thread since late August in anticipation of building a new machine. You guys are a great resource! Thanks to the holiday, I now have a shiny new C2D system! :D

Just recently daos reported that his Corsair 6400C4 Dominator memory was working well. Unfortunately that is not the case for me. Only 1024 of 2048 mb is recognized no matter how it is installed (leading me to think that I have an issue with one of my modules) and that is causing it to run in single channel mode only. I have played a little with the BIOS settings with no luck.

Any suggestions? After the excitement of receiving parts all week long in the mail, this has been quite a bummer. :(

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One stick is probably dead :(

Can you test it in another machine/a mate's machine?

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Originally Posted by gaddster

Lawrywild, you are possibly the most patronising and 'know it all' troll that these boards can do without. So many of your posts are uneccessarily rude it defies belief. There really is no need for it and all you succeed in doing is causing bad feeling and not actually progressing the issues a lot of us with this board are having.

I'm sure no one cares what you think about all us idiots who make the odd mistake now and again so why not leave out the sarcasm and rudeness and keep it to yourself eh? :toast:

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*EDITed by IFMU*
Two warnings here.
1st, flaming is not allowed.
2nd, bypassing the word filter.
So, since I am in a nice mood, you will be recieving a single warning. If I catch this again, it will go straight to a minimum 3 day vacation.
Got it?

IFMU

read the thread 1st....talk later

Lawrywild isnt alone, me and MANY MANY other users spend more time comproving the mobo faults than you, capiche?

Voltage? I run with my FSB set at of 425 daily which keeps my 2 little cores chugging along @ 3825mhz my voltage is set at 1.65 in the bios. I have never ran my voltage below 1.6v since I got my Conroe.

WZ

:caution:

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Originally Posted by fritzman

J33pG33k : I would suggest the first thing you do, is try each module on it's own. If they both work individually, and memtest individually okay, then the issue is either with the board, or at least compatibility with the board.

Let's know how you get on with that first up.

Oh, and by the way (just noticed it's your first post here)... welcome!

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Is it possible to run one memory stick at a time? When I insert only one into any of the four slots, all I get is one long beep followed by two short beeps and the screen stays black.

Other than that, any combination of the two sticks still only reports 1024...I'm really depressed right now. I'm going to call a friend and see if I can get them tested today. Thanks.

Youy Know people said the same thing about my running 1.675 into my 2.4C and my 3.0C. People all freaked out about SNDS. Funny it never happened. My 2.4C is going on three years of high voltage and it still runs daily at 3637mhz and my 3.0C is 2 1/2 years old and it still runs daily at 4037mhz. I have no fears about running this Conroe at 1.65 set in the bios which is actually a little more than 1.6. If voltage scared me I would buy a dell. But instead I buy parts and build Xtemely fast and stable computers...THAT LAST..

WZ

PS. Contrary to popular belief the SKY is not falling....

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Originally Posted by WeldZilla

Youy Know people said the same thing about my running 1.675 into my 2.4C and my 3.0C. People all freaked out about SNDS. Funny it never happened. My 2.4C is going on three years of high voltage and it still runs daily at 3637mhz and my 3.0C is 2 1/2 years old and it still runs daily at 4037mhz. I have no fears about running this Conroe at 1.65 set in the bios which is actually a little more than 1.6. If voltage scared me I would buy a dell. But instead I buy parts and build Xtemely fast and stable computers...THAT LAST..

WZ

PS. Contrary to popular belief the SKY is not falling....

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Ya, I ran 1.65v bios (1.6v actual) for about a week on air but at the end of the day it wasn't really worth it over running 3.2ghz 1.4v actual so I dropped back down.

Well on air I would say you are doing the right thing. I have not aircooled one of my systems for years. liquid is just so much better. I like that fact it help to keep the variation in temps down to a minimum. I also like the fact that it lets me run 3.8ghz daily without so much as a single hiccup. The rendering work it has done has more than paid for it. I encourage everyone to go liquid and run 6400HZ D9GMH This board is picky about memory and I can tell you it adores this stuff.

WZ

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Originally Posted by WeldZilla

Well on air I would say you are doing the right thing. I have not aircooled one of my systems for years. liquid is just so much better. I like that fact it help to keep the variation in temps down to a minimum. I also like the fact that it lets me run 3.8ghz daily without so much as a single hiccup. The rendering work it has done has more than paid for it. I encourage everyone to go liquid and run 6400HZ D9GMH This board is picky about memory and I can tell you it adores this stuff.

WZ

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Well, yeh I would if I had a money tree.. but I don't :(

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Originally Posted by J33pG33k

Is it possible to run one memory stick at a time? When I insert only one into any of the four slots, all I get is one long beep followed by two short beeps and the screen stays black.

Other than that, any combination of the two sticks still only reports 1024...I'm really depressed right now. I'm going to call a friend and see if I can get them tested today. Thanks.

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Should be possible to run just one stick alright. I would be trying that memory in another PC if possible... I suspect that it might be okay, but that the board might be a problem (if you can't run either of the sticks alone on that board)

Yes you may well have a board problem. Have you as of yet tried plugging them into another board? Have you run cpuz and clicked on the mem tab?
Just to make sure you did not get to miss marked 512 sticks? Still it makes no sense that it start with both but won't with one. Go into your bios and turn your mem volts up to 2.1 or more. and try to manually set your timings. I would not try to OC anything. Just run your mem 1:1 and set your timings at 4-4-4-12 to start. run cpuz to see what it is seeing maybe your sticks just don't like to fire at low voltage.
1: Enter bios
2: Turn mem voltage to 2.1V
3: Set mem on the 1:1 ok 533
4: Do not OC cpu
5: Disable SPD and set timings at 4-4-4-12. While you are there go ahead and disable Dram ECC mode, Hyper Path 3, Dram Throttling Threshold and memory remap
6: run cpu-z click on the mem tab and see how much mem it says you have and see if it is running in Dual channel.
7:If you are up to these tasks than give them a go. If not let us know we will get more specific.

WZ

Any one know what the new bios 1801 fix.

I got my system up and running with alot of help from this thread, thanks to everyone that posted information that helped those of us that are new to the board.

Here are a couple of shots of what I am sitting on now, not the best overclock or cable management in the world but hey its mine =)


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-3/980990/P5WOC.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-.../CompSized.JPG

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Originally Posted by Tarowah

I got my system up and running with alot of help from this thread, thanks to everyone that posted information that helped those of us that are new to the board.

Here are a couple of shots of what I am sitting on now, not the best overclock or cable management in the world but hey its mine =)


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-3/980990/P5WOC.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-.../CompSized.JPG

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Looks like a nice box! I noticed you have a copper cpu waterblock, but could not see where your cabling was going. What setup do you have, and where are your radiator, pump, and resevior ?

I can run stock volts till 3.15 after that i need extra juice currenty i'm at 3.6 at 1.4 volts. (1.37v real) after that i hit a wall it has something to do with my WC Northbridge or my CPU hitting a wall. I have run this combo at 3.8 24/7 stable but didn't write down all the volts and tweaks and now i can't recreate it.

IMO it's not worth it those 200mhz for day to day usage.

This thread i think has gone way way out of scope, we need to clean it a bit. 1 big first initial thread is needed with all the day to day stuff.

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Originally Posted by nickfd

Looks like a nice box! I noticed you have a copper cpu waterblock, but could not see where your cabling was going. What setup do you have, and where are your radiator, pump, and resevior ?

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That is an Exos 2 kit, the unit is sitting on top of the case, the block is the CPU-300-V13.


Another question, is the PWM temp the "MB" temp that I am seeing in PC Probe? If not what will show me the pwm temps on this board?

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Originally Posted by J33pG33k

Is it possible to run one memory stick at a time? When I insert only one into any of the four slots, all I get is one long beep followed by two short beeps and the screen stays black.

Other than that, any combination of the two sticks still only reports 1024...I'm really depressed right now. I'm going to call a friend and see if I can get them tested today. Thanks.

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Yes, you can run one stick at a time.

When it didn't boot with one stick did you try the other stick by itself? Maybe the stick you tried in the board alone (resulting in no boot) was the bad one. It sure sounds like you've got one bad stick and one good one.

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Originally Posted by WeldZilla

Voltage? I run with my FSB set at of 425 daily which keeps my 2 little cores chugging along @ 3825mhz my voltage is set at 1.65 in the bios. I have never ran my voltage below 1.6v since I got my Conroe.

WZ

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Thats what I like to hear!

:)

Larry, just ignore the haters! I have similar problems with "experts" of this caliber frequently, so just take it from me to try ignoring them first :)

Damn, I updated bios 1707 over 1705 and now only Vcore option is auto.
How can I fix this?

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Originally Posted by BulldogPO

Damn, I updated bios 1707 over 1705 and now only Vcore option is auto.
How can I fix this?

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Have you checked that only Microcode Updation and VT are enabled in the bios? All the rest disabled?

Sometimes I noticed that when I update bios, it for some reason enables EIST or something randomly.. :rolleyes:

Yeah, it was user error.
EIST was enabled.

But I have other weird things going also, in boot when mobo is looking for IDE devices it takes a long time, with 1705 I did´nt have this.

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Originally Posted by BulldogPO

Yeah, it was user error.
EIST was enabled.

But I have other weird things going also, in boot when mobo is looking for IDE devices it takes a long time, with 1705 I did´nt have this.

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try changing all the IDE devices that aren't in use to Not Installed. You can change those settings on the first page of the bios.

Where can one find memset and what value should tRFC be? Perhaps it can help me get passed the 400 fsb barrier.

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Originally Posted by WeldZilla

Youy Know people said the same thing about my running 1.675 into my 2.4C and my 3.0C. People all freaked out about SNDS. Funny it never happened. My 2.4C is going on three years of high voltage and it still runs daily at 3637mhz and my 3.0C is 2 1/2 years old and it still runs daily at 4037mhz. I have no fears about running this Conroe at 1.65 set in the bios which is actually a little more than 1.6. If voltage scared me I would buy a dell. But instead I buy parts and build Xtemely fast and stable computers...THAT LAST..

WZ

PS. Contrary to popular belief the SKY is not falling....

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Sorry to say that I've messed up three 3.4C northwoods, one severely, by running over 1.575v. The first one degraded so bad (originally it was rock solid at 3.9 ghz 1.675v, but that slowly nosedived) that it wouldn't even finish POST at 3.7 ghz stock (1.55v), and the max overclock at stock became 3.5 ghz. I was lucky enough to get half my money back by selling it on oc.com forums as a stock chip. And being disabled, I can't go around wasting money like that.

Even my P4EE, which has never seen more than 1.6v for more than a few hours (had it at 1.60v for awhile at 3.79 ghz; usually 1.575v) has degraded to the point (over 2 years) that it sometimes blue screens at 3.70 ghz 1.575v, where once it was rock solid at 3740 ghz, *stock*. SNDS on northwood series is very real and it cost me a lot of money. Please don't go around saying it's not real just because it didn't happen to you. I believed what other people had posted back then and am thus several hundred dollars poorer. Do you have any intention of wiring me money for the $$ I wasted? :fact:

Anyone with shutdown problem? Whenever I select shutdown in windows the mobo just restart...

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Originally Posted by Gascogne

Anyone with shutdown problem? Whenever I select shutdown in windows the mobo just restart...

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Are you running the latest X-Fi drivers? If not, try updating them. I had all sorts of shut down and restart troubles running the X-Fi drivers from the CD that went away after the update.

Falkentyne you are a prime example of a, "I need a Dell or Compaq Computer user" Gawd where is my crying towel. In every group there is someone who just had all the bad luck. Well I believe we make our own and if you had problems with processors at such low voltage settings then you quite frankly you are not qualified to be an overclocker and should get out of forums so you don't get co-erced into to doing something you shouldn't. You also admit that you are a unethical pile of garbage. Selling a processor you knew was bad to some poor bastard for any price is not right!! Thats what they make garbage cans for. So run along and leave the real OC'ing to those of us that don't wet our pants everytime we hit the delete button when we are booting up. Have a nice day...

I bet you blame every one who ever ran their voltage at over 1.625 for your problems. Oh yes and I run my memory at 2.4V and my 7900GT runs 24/7 at 1.55 on the gpu and 2.23V on the memory and contrary to popular belief it still runs smooth and fast.

WeldZilla

Hi all,

I was wondering if the two black and one red SATA ports near the bottomright part of the board, marked SATA1, SATA3, SATA4, were the ones we were to use if we wanted to do RAID5. Is anyone running raid5 with the ICH7 controller? Does it work ok?

U can also use the 2 orange for raid 5.

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Originally Posted by Gascogne

Where can one find memset and what value should tRFC be? Perhaps it can help me get passed the 400 fsb barrier.

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http://rv.page.cegetel.net.perso.ceg...mSet31beta.zip

You can get memset 3.1 beta there.

The big thing that I've found to increase stability is setting tRD to 8 and tRFC to 42. You can set everything except CAS latency on the fly, so good luck finding good times.. The way I did it was boot with lower fsb (to auto set the tRD at a higher rate), then adjust tRD and tRFC in windows(8-42), and use SysTool to bring FSB up. When I thought I had a good clock, I'd do my testing and try and bring my ram timings tighter. You'll spend a *lot* of time messing with these things to get good benchmarks and performance, so be prepared. :)

Oh one more thing, I remember reading something in this thread that was very important. If you want to find your mhz wall, find your max speed with 9x, for example, mine 9x385 = ~3470mhz, then try and find the same with 8x multiplier. There was a post about the board needing original voltage for 9x to post, no matter the fsb or multiplier, so this is why you need to clock lower in 8x (360 or 380fsb), and clock up. Even though I can run 440x8 in windows, theres no way I can boot from it.. Strange stuff.

edit: found memset 3.1 beta
edit2: notes on higher fsb with lower multiplier

you know there are what, 126 pages on this thread alone. I have answered probably close to 500 pm's on all the forums I belong to. With questions on this mobo, which processor,which ram,which HDD's which raid, which PSU, which vid card, which monitor ,which mouse and keyboard and all these questions are based around this Motherboard. Well after 126 pages if you can't figure it out then you are sh*t-outa-luck. Lawry it has been a hell of a thread. I can say sometimes I wished it would have never been started. But, in reality I am glad it was. There is such a great compilation of information here. Unfortunately some are going to get this board and never fully understand it. Then they will sell it and forever tell the world what a POS it was when in fact it is a wonderful board, feature rich and very strong. I will be keeping mine for a longtime to come. But I feel it is time to let people sink or swim now as the questions are getting a bit repititious. And if people don't want it bad enough to read everything then they really just don't want it.
I am finished with this thread,here lately I have just wanted to flame to death some of those posting here. So it is time to call it for me. Again I congratulate you on a truly magnificent information rich thread....

WeldZilla

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Originally Posted by WeldZilla

you know there are what, 126 pages on this thread alone. I have answered probably close to 500 pm's on all the forums I belong to. With questions on this mobo, which processor,which ram,which HDD's which raid, which PSU, which vid card, which monitor ,which mouse and keyboard and all these questions are based around this Motherboard. Well after 126 pages if you can't figure it out then you are sh*t-outa-luck. Lawry it has been a hell of a thread. I can say sometimes I wished it would have never been started. But, in reality I am glad it was. There is such a great compilation of information here. Unfortunately some are going to get this board and never fully understand it. Then they will sell it and forever tell the world what a POS it was when in fact it is a wonderful board, feature rich and very strong. I will be keeping mine for a longtime to come. But I feel it is time to let people sink or swim now as the questions are getting a bit repititious. And if people don't want it bad enough to read everything then they really just don't want it.
I am finished with this thread,here lately I have just wanted to flame to death some of those posting here. So it is time to call it for me. Again I congratulate you on a truly magnificent information rich thread....

WeldZilla

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lol, I understand you bro :)

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I agree with you as well.

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Originally Posted by WeldZilla

you know there are what, 126 pages on this thread alone. I have answered probably close to 500 pm's on all the forums I belong to. With questions on this mobo, which processor,which ram,which HDD's which raid, which PSU, which vid card, which monitor ,which mouse and keyboard and all these questions are based around this Motherboard. Well after 126 pages if you can't figure it out then you are sh*t-outa-luck. Lawry it has been a hell of a thread. I can say sometimes I wished it would have never been started. But, in reality I am glad it was. There is such a great compilation of information here. Unfortunately some are going to get this board and never fully understand it. Then they will sell it and forever tell the world what a POS it was when in fact it is a wonderful board, feature rich and very strong. I will be keeping mine for a longtime to come. But I feel it is time to let people sink or swim now as the questions are getting a bit repititious. And if people don't want it bad enough to read everything then they really just don't want it.
I am finished with this thread,here lately I have just wanted to flame to death some of those posting here. So it is time to call it for me. Again I congratulate you on a truly magnificent information rich thread....

WeldZilla

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Although I have not posted much on this thread, I have read it through and through. Matter fact, I read it again today because I was bored. Anyhow, I totally agree with you. This thread should be locked other than the OP to update the first page with BIOS releases and what it either fixes or doesnt.

My P5WDH runs nice, cool, and fast at 400fsb rock solid with minimal voltage increases at 3.6Ghz. If thats not fast enough for you then maybe you should think about getting a tub of LN or some DI cause it doesnt get much better on water/air.

To the OP, thanks for the thread and all of the hardwork you have put toowards this thread. I know it hasnt been easy.

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Originally Posted by WeldZilla

Falkentyne you are a prime example of a, "I need a Dell or Compaq Computer user" Gawd where is my crying towel. In every group there is someone who just had all the bad luck. Well I believe we make our own and if you had problems with processors at such low voltage settings then you quite frankly you are not qualified to be an overclocker and should get out of forums so you don't get co-erced into to doing something you shouldn't. You also admit that you are a unethical pile of garbage. Selling a processor you knew was bad to some poor bastard for any price is not right!! Thats what they make garbage cans for. So run along and leave the real OC'ing to those of us that don't wet our pants everytime we hit the delete button when we are booting up. Have a nice day...

I bet you blame every one who ever ran their voltage at over 1.625 for your problems. Oh yes and I run my memory at 2.4V and my 7900GT runs 24/7 at 1.55 on the gpu and 2.23V on the memory and contrary to popular belief it still runs smooth and fast.

WeldZilla

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Excuse me.
I've been using computers probably *before* you were even born. I happen to be age 35. And I've been overclocking chips ever since the early MMX days. So don't try to lecture me.
I resent your post and your ludicy.
and I know how to tweak a system quite well, thank you.
SNDS is real. Stop trying to deny it. It's people like you that cost innocent people hundreds or more, and every time a post comes up trying to pretend it's a myth, I will be there to let the truth be known. (Even if it doesn't happen in a similar fashion on Core 2 Duo's).

Wah wah you want your mommy and your binky and a warm hot bottle and of course a fresh diaper. Gee your 35 hey I am just overwhelmed. Just go away.
Go hold your SNDS torch of truth up somewhere else... all the money you wasted on that P-4ee would have bought you a top notch liquid cooling system or even better and all top notch parts to build with but you thought you could just throw money at a processor and win. And when guys like me running 3.0C's pounded salt up your ass in the benches you blamed your processor for all your problems but you were then and are still your system's bug. then I moved up to a 540J I got off Ebay for 150 and a 75 dollar epox 5PDAJ Motherboard and really stomped your ass.
And you can take that from someone who got his first computer when he was 23 back in 1979.
Admit it, your ugly and your momma dresses you funny.. you know you could hit the links on my benches and print them out and keep'em under your pillow and sneak them out and look at them late in the night. If you get my drift, you know you want to... check out my avatar, you likey?

Oh and hey all smackin aside have a Happy New Year!

Perhaps this year you will get a great OC, like me!!

WZ

PS. what the hell is ludicy?.......... Oh I get it ludicy is pure genious you resent my pure genious. Well hey i can live with that....

I hear you weldzilla, so would it make sense then to close/pin thread so less knowledgable folks who may not found answers in 120 some odd pages or gotten any response to their insulting question can try and post in open forum?

This place is impressive, I learned a few things; still wrestling mobo however and while I am not shooting for 4GHz, I still think there are members here who may gladly throw a few tips at us rookies.

Cheers

Well Trackfan if a good legit ? comes up I will still be hangin around. Dammit
you see I am hooked on this stuff. It's just that simple.

WZ

Seems like 1707 bios is worse then 1705, for me at least.
With 1705 my E6600 was orthos stable at 3.4GHz wit Vcore of 1.375V and now wit 1707 bios cpu requires Vcore of 1.415V and rund hotter of course.

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Are you running the latest X-Fi drivers? If not, try updating them. I had all sorts of shut down and restart troubles running the X-Fi drivers from the CD that went away after the update.

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I am using the latest drivers for my X-Fi.

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Memset won't work for me, it says "The driver TViPort can not be found".
Im using windows Xp Pro 64 if that has anything do to with it.

You did´nt install that driver?

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You did´nt install that driver?

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What driver?

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memset doesn't work under xp64 because that driver doesn't exist in 64 bit.
"that driver" = "The driver TViPort can not be found" driver

"Memset won't work for me, it says "The driver TViPort can not be found".
Im using windows Xp Pro 64 if that has anything do to with it.:

Start XP up in unsigned driver mode.

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Anyone with shutdown problem? Whenever I select shutdown in windows the mobo just restart...

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Remove the battery then reset the bios

I think this tread is missing a useful info, and that is the memory that is compatible with this board and doesn´t have the spd bug.
All the people that was able to boot with manual timmings passing the 400 bus barrier should give info about the memory they are using.
Its time to us make a solution for this trfc sh@t, cos seems that Asus is now very busy with their bios revisions for the Striker line up and their P5WDH bios series are getting worse.



My experiences are with this ones:

Memory:------------------boots with manual timmings passing 400 fsb?:

-kingston HyperX 6000 (infineon chips)----------------yes
-Gskill F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK (elpida chips)-------------yes
-Geil Ultra DDR2 PC2 6400 CL4 (elpida) ----------------no
-Supertalent T800UB1GC5-----------------------------yes
-Corsair XMS2 6400----------------------------------- yes
-Ocz Gold edition----------------------------------------no

So please input some info.

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I think this tread is missing a useful info, and that is the memory that is compatible with this board and doesn´t have the spd bug.
All the people that was able to boot with manual timmings passing the 400 bus barrier should give info about the memory they are using.
Its time to us make a solution for this trfc sh@t, cos seems that Asus is now very busy with their bios revisions for the Striker line up and their P5WDH bios series are getting worse.



My experiences are with this ones:

Memory:------------------boots with manual timmings passing 400 fsb?:

-kingston HyperX 6000 (infineon chips)----------------yes
-Gskill F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK (elpida chips)-------------yes
-Geil Ultra DDR2 PC2 6400 CL4 (elpida) ----------------no
-Supertalent T800UB1GC5-----------------------------yes
-Corsair XMS2 6400----------------------------------- yes
-Ocz Gold edition----------------------------------------no

So please input some info.

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G.Skill PC 6400 HZ D9GMH is for me the only memory I will run with this board

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=125168
Scroll down to post 7. Many problems with this board come right down to the memory being used. Well trying to use.

Wz

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Scroll down to post 7. Many problems with this board come right down to the memory being used. Well trying to use.

Wz

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yes I know that, for that reason is the idea of making a table of brands and models of memory that will work with this mobo.
I think that Gskill and Corsair are compatible no matter the model of memory.
By the way thx for your input and happy new year

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Should be possible to run just one stick alright. I would be trying that memory in another PC if possible... I suspect that it might be okay, but that the board might be a problem (if you can't run either of the sticks alone on that board)

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The new year seems to have come with some good/bad news. After troubleshooting the ram for a little bit, I am pleased to know that it is not bad memory...in fact it is a bad board. Both slots A_1 and A_2 do not work. But one/both dimm(s) in the B slots work fine (I am reporting 2048 MB right now).

WZ - I already had everything set as you specified except for the 533 timing, but as I have seen it is not the memory causing the problem. One thing though...I have one dimm each in slots B_1 and B_2 and the BIOS still only reports single channel mode. Should this still be as such? Does dual channel only work when running A+B not A+A or B+B? I remember a few pages back there was some discussion (and disagreement) about whether or not to use same color slots or not. I don't think anything was stated about dual channel operation...

Since I bought the board locally at a reputable shop, I'm glad that the board seems to be at fault and not the memory (purchased at ZipZoomFly). Hopefully he will be able to get me a new board by the end of the week.

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Does dual channel only work when running A+B not A+A or B+B? I remember a few pages back there was some discussion (and disagreement) about whether or not to use same color slots or not. I don't think anything was stated about dual channel operation...

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If you want to run dual channel, you have to have the dimms in the same coloured slots. I had a similar problem as you until someone pointed this out.

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I am finished with this thread,here lately I have just wanted to flame to death some of those posting here. So it is time to call it for me. Again I congratulate you on a truly magnificent information rich thread....

WeldZilla

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Hey WZ,

I really hope you don't leave the thread for good. Maybe you need a hiatus or something to get away from the repetitive questions that the majority could be solved by clicking "search thread". You, lawry, and a handful of others are absolutely lifesavers and provide us a plethora of information when we need it, especially when we cannot find it in search.

For example, when I was searching which SATA ports to use for onboard raid5, the search does not work. No matter if I do in the quick search: "raid 5" sata, 'raid 5' sata, or if I go to advanced search and try the same, it removes the "5" since it's only one character. Digging through the thousands of posts where a quick question could solve faster is much more optimized, hence why I asked.

I very much appreciate all of the updated information that lawry and all have put on the first post to solve the problems that we *can* run into on the board, and think that to best resolve the issues we're running into now with so many pages is to continue updating that first post. IE: finding mhz wall in 8x or 9x multiplier by booting lower fsb, using memset to change tRFC and tRD to 42-8 and clockgenning up to a higher fsb, etc.

Furthermore, this thread is absolutely essential for owners of the board and a c2d, and rather than spending two+ weeks going through the 3000+ posts to learn everything, it'd be nice to consolidating to the first post.

Hope all the experts don't leave!

Nick

Yes for dual channel operation you must run 2 sticks in the orange slots or 2 sticks in the black slots. Technically speaking these are slots DIMM_B1 and DIMM_A1 (orange) or in slots DIMM_B2 and DIMM_B1 (Black)
This is clearly covered in your P5W DH manual on page 2-14. Now you se this is why I get a little wound up. Before I did anything with my board I read my manual cover to cover over and over. Even after it was up and running I read and re-read. I can just about recite the book. It is obvious you did not.
you know there is a thread here about setting up your new board for Conroe.
Then there is a Problems and Fixes thread.
There should be a read the damn manual thread too!!
OK that is my rant, I hope this helps you and anyone who needs it

WZ

merry xmas and happy new year to all P5WDH owner...

Another year without subtimings in ASUS's $220 motherboard. :(

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This is clearly covered in your P5W DH manual on page 2-14. Now you se this is why I get a little wound up. Before I did anything with my board I read my manual cover to cover over and over. Even after it was up and running I read and re-read. I can just about recite the book. It is obvious you did not.
you know there is a thread here about setting up your new board for Conroe.
Then there is a Problems and Fixes thread.
There should be a read the damn manual thread too!!
OK that is my rant, I hope this helps you and anyone who needs it out

WZ

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I'm with you! There's a reason why they include the manual, and even if for some crazy reason you don't have a manual you can download it as well. Questions like "How can I run RAID_0?" to tend to get old and frustrating. Anyway Happy New Year to all.

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Yes for dual channel operation you must run 2 sticks in the orange slots or 2 sticks in the black slots. Technically speaking these are slots DIMM_B1 and DIMM_A1 (orange) or in slots DIMM_B2 and DIMM_B1 (Black)
This is clearly covered in your P5W DH manual on page 2-14. Now you se this is why I get a little wound up. Before I did anything with my board I read my manual cover to cover over and over. Even after it was up and running I read and re-read. I can just about recite the book. It is obvious you did not.
you know there is a thread here about setting up your new board for Conroe.
Then there is a Problems and Fixes thread.
There should be a read the damn manual thread too!!
OK that is my rant, I hope this helps you and anyone who needs it out

WZ

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Hint taken. Didn't mean to upset anyone. As I stated I just wanted to clear up the earlier discussion when I thought that someone reported running memory in dual channel mode in non-similar colored slots (I have been searching the thread, but can't find it...very likely that I was mistaken).

As for your decision to leave the thread, I can understand your frustration. I spent a good amount of my free time since August (not much this semester) researching this board and various components to go with it. I have loosely followed this thread since sometime around pg 10 even though I didn't personally own the board at that time. I was in no hurry to build it, and I wanted to be 100% certain that the components I was going to buy would play nice with each other (and that they were supported in Linux, as that is my primary OS). I say loosely because it was growing so fast that it was impossible to remember everything already discussed.

I have one question/comment for you though: Everyone hates excess emails/spam, but wouldn't it be easier to just ignore/delete all of the "compatibility requests" than let them upset you?

I, as well as many others I'm sure, really appreciate your knowledgeable feedback, and wish you the best no matter what your decision may be. Thanks again.

Hi there, this might be a far too general question, with multiple solutions.

So my setup is as following:

P5W DH DL
E6600
Corsair twin2x pc6400 cl5 2GB
sapphire x1900xtx
mist 500w

I boot up, fans rev up like crazy, but it i have no video signal. I'm guessing its never even making itself to POST.

The fans never go down in speed. I'm thinking the problem is that the goop has turned into crap after ive applied and reapplied the heatsink numerous times, quite possibly messing up them damn pushpins (intel gotta start shipping those fans with a decent locking system :P). Resulting in bad contact and consequentially the cpu overheating.

BUT would this cause the part where im not getting any video signal?

Ive removed the harddrive to see if that helped, same problem

Ive made sure the video card sits in place. But i have yet to replace the stock cooler with something better, and removing the bad goop.

What do you guys think? Is it just a problem with the cpu overheating or am i in for bigger problems than this?

Don't forget, in BIOS to set first graphics to boot = PCI.

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Hi there, this might be a far too general question, with multiple solutions.

So my setup is as following:

P5W DH DL
E6600
Corsair twin2x pc6400 cl5 2GB
sapphire x1900xtx
mist 500w

I boot up, fans rev up like crazy, but it i have no video signal. I'm guessing its never even making itself to POST.

The fans never go down in speed. I'm thinking the problem is that the goop has turned into crap after ive applied and reapplied the heatsink numerous times, quite possibly messing up them damn pushpins (intel gotta start shipping those fans with a decent locking system :P). Resulting in bad contact and consequentially the cpu overheating.

BUT would this cause the part where im not getting any video signal?

Ive removed the harddrive to see if that helped, same problem

Ive made sure the video card sits in place. But i have yet to replace the stock cooler with something better, and removing the bad goop.

What do you guys think? Is it just a problem with the cpu overheating or am i in for bigger problems than this?

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Keep your intial setup very basic when starting from scratch. Pull everything but one stick of ram, cpu (obviously :)) and the gfx card. If she boots disable everything you don't need in bios as per the first post in this thread...after that yer on your own...

@lawrywild: my chip is week 27, and i need exactly the same setting as yours

Can't get to 3.6ghz stable. My current setup is e6600, not sure of what date chip etc. 2gigs of super talent pc6400. I can get to 3.4ghz using 1.45voltage in bios (1.42 in windows) mch on auto and is orthos stable. At 1.525voltage and 1.65mch, orthos fails after 21 minutes. Do I really need more voltage? Or is 3.4ghz my limit?

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Can't get to 3.6ghz stable. My current setup is e6600, not sure of what date chip etc. 2gigs of super talent pc6400. I can get to 3.4ghz using 1.45voltage in bios (1.42 in windows) mch on auto and is orthos stable. At 1.525voltage and 1.65mch, orthos fails after 21 minutes. Do I really need more voltage? Or is 3.4ghz my limit?

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Mine needs 1.5625 to be Orthos stable at 400x9 for 3.6. On air temps were too high for my tastes, but moving to water put it under control, max is 62 C in TAT, 58 in Coretemp using Orthos.

I dont get a video signal, kinda hard to change stuff in bios :P And since the fans never go down im assuming its not making itself to POST. :(

Oh well, ill buy a cpu cooler and try again :(

Anyone with Super Talent? -> T800UX2GC4 800MHz

lost most control of my fingers so pleaqe bear with me, it hurts like hell 2 type.

Guys, I really appreciate all the info on this borard abot this partcular Mobo the Asus YOu Guys are one hell of a crew and 99.5% of my answers I got here, I'm dajmn near dead, can't see, 60 yrs old with hand damage, eye damage, constant pain, muscle spasms, take opitate patches (Durogesic), Liquid & pill morphine (Roxynol & Oxycodone/OXyIR), Valium, and Marijuana (Legit) and thats not all its just all I have the energy to post. IM an oldtimer NASA/GM Tech/ Honeywell guy love Electronics till i Kick. I never thought I could see enoug to install my E6600 processor let alone all the stuff I had but thanks 2 U guys u made it simple even for a damn near blind eng9ineer,. I thank you all.
Currently running E6600 at 3.6x Ghz no problems
Now IM Doing 2nd one but do have a few questions
On the INCHR can u have 2 daul Raid0 arrays? Im familiaR WITH RAID (i STILL HAVE aSUS 6800 & 6800e dELUZE MOBO SYSTEMS RUNNING AND A cusl2-c ALSO) sorry 4 the caps..
Heres the deal... I never did get the JMicron to accept a PATA IDE DVD Writer (not decently) But I saw 2 diff PCie Slot devices I purchaced them both 4 testing;; One sil 3232 has 2 internal SATA II ports (29 buxs), the next day I saw one with, get this, 1 ESata SATA II port, 2 - internal Sata II Ports and 1 internal Pat port 39 buxs couldnt resist ordered it too.. IM running the dual internal port one now (SIL3232) using it with a (37 gig)Raptor and a LITE-ON SH-16A7S. I dont know why I stuck the Raptor on there .. Anway
what I wanna do is to put 2 36 gig raptors on one Array Raid0
and 2 - 500 giggers on another Array Raid0. Both on the ICHR7. I notice (before i have to room to move everything to do this) the intel controller showed the one array with the dual 500 giggers. also the 2 - 250 giggers on the ez ports(i dont use ez back though)
I see the inchr7 SHOWS One mystery PORT IDENTICAL TO ANOTHER,, iM Still trying to figure that out and between being 1/2 blind,wasted because of the drugs,andd inever ending pain its kinda hard 2 concentrate.THats wh yI say this one looong thread has given me everythiing I need. Heck I just slap- the laptop next to the system Im working on and dial in whammo as long as i can see the text and have the faculties for a decent search I'm cool, just 2 bad i cant even hold a screw arrrggrrgr!!W@! Now that really gets me, asking the old lady 2 pull memory, etc. seems like it takes he forever and us only seconds. but im grateful, i actually built, troubleshooted, used and overclocked duo core systems. which is no big deal unless you are messed up and as old as i am.little hick town, most havent even heard of mp3 players even now..
I really never though i'd live this long (and be coherant & move around at all)
thank you guys...
at newegg the've had 2 diff 500 gig drives n sale, perfect 4 an external Esata bakup drive. even 4 laptops nice...Also have pcie Sata II internal/external ports with a pata device too.. BYTECC PCIe SATA II 300 + PATA Raid Card Model BT-PESAPA - 39 bux.. both are new cards...

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Yes for dual channel operation you must run 2 sticks in the orange slots or 2 sticks in the black slots. Technically speaking these are slots DIMM_B1 and DIMM_A1 (orange) or in slots DIMM_B2 and DIMM_B1 (Black)

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Not completely true,on i975 chipset boards as long as each channel contains the same amount of memory it will run in dual channel mode.

Right now I am running in first channel a one gb stick and in the second channel two 512mb sticks and it runs in dual channel mode.

On the motherboard each channel has one black and one orange memory slot.

The attachment is an example of how to use 3 memory sticks in dual channel mode.

December 2006 releases:
* JMicron: Dec. 12, 2006
* DirectX: Dec. 13, 2006
* WiFi AP Solo: Dec. 22, 2006
* Marvell Yukon LAN for VISTA: Dec. 27, 2006
* Realtek Audio drivers for XP: Dec. 29,2006

January 2007 releases:
* Intel Matrix Storage Manager 6.2.1.1002: Jan. 4,2007, offering slightly improved SATA harddisk performance and helps preventing iastor0 error.
* DirectX for XP ONLY: Jan. 5, 2007
* Realtek Audio driver for VISTA: Jan. 8, 2007
* Realtek WLAN driver for VISTA: Jan. 11, 2007

Downloading and installing latest BIOS & Drivers helps reducing installation problems and instability of your system. While the idea is dead obvious--the problem is that we don't do the obvious. Don't use the drivers on the accompanied ASUS CD of your P5W HD Deluxe motherboard!!
For your convenience, I've listed here the links where to get the LATEST of them.
Check it out REGULARLY as new drivers are released every couple of weeks
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

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Not completely true,on i975 chipset boards as long as each channel contains the same amount of memory it will run in dual channel mode.

Right now I am running in first channel a one gb stick and in the second channel two 512mb sticks and it runs in dual channel mode.

On the motherboard each channel has one black and one orange memory slot.

The attachment is an example of how to use 3 memory sticks in dual channel mode.

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I appreciate your input, but I think you are mistaken. From what I understand about dual-channel operation, you don't have to have the same size memory modules, in fact you don't even need to have the same speed (although not recommended). Your memory will only run as fast as your slowest module in that pair (in your case the pair would be the 1 GB stick and one of the 512 MB sticks). Try removing the 1 GB stick and you should only end up running in single channel mode like me.

any news on the new 1801 bios

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Not completely true,on i975 chipset boards as long as each channel contains the same amount of memory it will run in dual channel mode.

Right now I am running in first channel a one gb stick and in the second channel two 512mb sticks and it runs in dual channel mode.

On the motherboard each channel has one black and one orange memory slot.

The attachment is an example of how to use 3 memory sticks in dual channel mode.

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Running just the way I said. Now let it be known there is no Dimm O's on the P5W DH and it is running in dual channel cuz you have memory sticks in
Channel A Dimm 2 and Channel B Dimm 2. the fact you have chosen to throw a stick into Channel B dimm 1 is inconsequential to the dual channel set up.
I would run sandra or everest to make sure that you are not actually slowing your mem speed down. Hey live like you wanna live. I would not run an odd number of sticks simply because I don't do things that way.:nono:
If I ever walked into one of my friends computer rooms and they were doing this I would give them this:slapass:
But really if it is working for you go for it.:D

WZ

QX6700 @ 3G and two different revs of P5WDH:

#1 - LOT: 66M REV 1.02G with mch 1.65
#2 - LOT: 69M REV 1.02G with mch 1.85

#1 is stable at 3.0G
#2 is not stable at 3.0G, had to lower to 2.90G to get to stable operation

Just FYI for others to note there may be significant differences between same model boards....
- in my case, the newer rev board was significantly hotter and less stable than older rev.
- makes one wonder what the differences are between them....

- case, PSU, memory, drives, etc., are the same.
- just swapped out motherboard.
- reinstalled #1 and double checked original measurements.
- temps measuered with Fluke 62 Mini IR thermometer.
- AC system watts measured with WattsUp? Pro
- links to pix, benches, etc., in sig below

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#1 - LOT: 66M with mch 1.65
LOADED: 30min (Prime95 v25.1)
CPU: 129f/53.8c - CORE: 163.4f/73c
MB: 91f/32.7c
MEM: 114.8f/46c
NORTHBRIDGE: 128f/53.3c
SOUTHBRIDGE: 96f/35.5c
MOSFET/INDUCTOR: 131f/55c
AC SYSTEM POWER INCREASE over IDLE: 154W

IDLE:
CPU: 80f/26c - CORE: 109f/42c
MB: 91f/32.7c
MEM: 92.1f/33.4c
NORTHBRIDGE: 110f/43.3c
SOUTHBRIDGE: 94f/34.4c
MOSFET/INDUCTOR: 100f/37.7c
AC SYSTEM POWER: 169W

AMB: 68f/20c

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#2 - LOT: 69M with mch 1.85 (MCH set at 1.55vdc in BIOS)
LOADED: 30min (Prime95 v25.1)
CPU: 134f/57c - CORE: 168f/76c <-- hmmmm?
MB: 105f/41c
MEM: 124f/51.1c
NORTHBRIDGE: 145f/62.7c <-- ouch!
SOUTHBRIDGE: 105f/40.5c
MOSFET/INDUCTOR: 142f/61.1c <-- ouch!
AC SYSTEM POWER INCREASE over IDLE: 168W

IDLE:
CPU: 80f/26c - CORE: 109f/42c
MB: 98f/36.6c
MEM: 98.9f/36.1c
NORTHBRIDGE: 118f/47c
SOUTHBRIDGE: 102f/38.8c
MOSFET/INDUCTOR: 118f/47.7c
AC SYSTEM POWER: 182W

AMB: 69f/20.5c

I got a strange probleme with my computer, maybe you guys can help me out...

I've got a P5W DH (older rev. with 1,65Vmch), C2D E6400 which ran at 3500MHz all the time (watercooled)...one day it started to behave strange, it "freezed" suddenly, without having some high CPU load or whatever...

then I bootet with non o'ced settings, and it all worked fine again...then I tried again with my 3500MHz settings which ran fine all the time...then it restarted after about 1.5h (just surfing the net etc.)....I bootet again with the overclocked settings, and all was fine again, when after about another 1.5/2h it freezed...I dunno what the problem could be, my XP installation is new, did a new install on 12/31, but no changes!!
I also thought it could be my harddrive...I have this Scythe HDD Silencer, where the harddrive ist "upside down"...I pulled it out and turned it 180°, so the HDD is in "normal" position now...I powered it on again, and it worked fine so far (just had 1.5h to test)...

so what else could be the problem? how could I check if something's damaged (e.g. the board/cpu or whatever)....

Thanks in advance everyone!!

monza1412 + all

I have an early 1.65v MCH rev board, week 24 E6600 and running bios 1707. I can't get the board to boot with Corsair XMS2 6400 memory at 400FSB with manual timings. It boots fine with it SPD enabled. I'm sure I have got it to boot with an early bios with manual timings. Haven't tried 1801 yet, due to the feedback in this thread.

I'm also trying to get mine Orthos stable at 3.6Ghz (400x9). I have Vcore set to 1.6V, memory set to 2.15V, MCH set to 1.65, ICH set to 1.2V and FSB set to 1.5V. Windows will just blue screen with Machine_Check_Exception. If I lower the voltage slightly then it will fail with a rounding error (or something like that). Any ideas ?

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monza1412 + all

I have an early 1.65v MCH rev board, week 24 E6600 and running bios 1707. I can't get the board to boot with Corsair XMS2 6400 memory at 400FSB with manual timings. It boots fine with it SPD enabled. I'm sure I have got it to boot with an early bios with manual timings. Haven't tried 1801 yet, due to the feedback in this thread.

I'm also trying to get mine Orthos stable at 3.6Ghz (400x9). I have Vcore set to 1.6V, memory set to 2.15V, MCH set to 1.65, ICH set to 1.2V and FSB set to 1.5V. Windows will just blue screen with Machine_Check_Exception. If I lower the voltage slightly then it will fail with a rounding error (or something like that). Any ideas ?

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have you tried the 8 multi??, maybe you have encounter your cpu wall here..., I mean, that memory its able to boot with manual timmings
I ve 2 boards, one its the 1.65v (1.02 revision), it´s not stable at all at 400 no matter the voltage...
The second one its 1.85v (1.03 revision) it tops around 450 fsb :eek:

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Running just the way I said. Now let it be known there is no Dimm O's on the P5W DH and it is running in dual channel cuz you have memory sticks in
Channel A Dimm 2 and Channel B Dimm 2. the fact you have chosen to throw a stick into Channel B dimm 1 is inconsequential to the dual channel set up.
I would run sandra or everest to make sure that you are not actually slowing your mem speed down. Hey live like you wanna live. I would not run an odd number of sticks simply because I don't do things that way.:nono:
If I ever walked into one of my friends computer rooms and they were doing this I would give them this:slapass:
But really if it is working for you go for it.:D

WZ

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You really should read more than a asus owners manual before you post.
Has nothing to do with what might work for me, its the way intel designed the chipset to function.
Try the intel site instead.

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QX6700 @ 3G and two different revs of P5WDH:

#1 - LOT: 66M REV 1.02G with mch 1.65
#2 - LOT: 69M REV 1.02G with mch 1.85

#1 is stable at 3.0G
#2 is not stable at 3.0G, had to lower to 2.90G to get to stable operation

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I'm no longer pushing the limits of my 66M board. I'm just hoping for better performance once I can spring for a Top of the Line quad CPU, maybe next year. By then, more programs might take full use of even two cores. The MPEG-to-WMV converter I use seems to occupy both cores nicely...

Anyone have or had this problem?

Since flashing to the 1707 BIOS my G7 mouse is all over the place.......like when you click on anything it maximises for no reason or click an icon and 2 instances of a program open and erratic behaviour in some games etc etc??

Flashed back to 1506 and it seems to have gone away.

:confused: :confused:

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Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

Remove the battery then reset the bios

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It didn't help my reboot problem, the mobo still reboots when I select shutdown in windows.

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Originally Posted by mikepaul

I'm no longer pushing the limits of my 66M board. I'm just hoping for better performance once I can spring for a Top of the Line quad CPU, maybe next year. By then, more programs might take full use of even two cores. The MPEG-to-WMV converter I use seems to occupy both cores nicely...

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mikepaul,

- yep, the QX6700 makes vid editing FLY, even compared to E6600 and E6700
- Sony Vegas, TMPG series of apps, ULead, Divx, etc., appear to be dual/quad aware
- work related math and database intensive apps also fly along
- typical transcodes take about half the time, compared to Netburst cores (D945), with a lot less power and heat
- and same here, just pushed a bit to a nice, fast, quiet, stable configuration (2.66 to 3Ghz, in my case)

damn the 1801 bios :banana::banana::banana::banana: me over. After I flashed it, I noticed my reading on temps was a bit off than normal. So I decided to flash back to 1503 and that's when all of a sudden it got corrupted. Never happened before, I have flash atleast 50 times on this board. Anyways had to get another bios chip to get it working. Asus bios recovery cd didnt even work! I'm really pissed at this board now. BTW I just tested the 680i and we have been getting screw on this board. That thing boots 2x faster and no hang up when overclocking failed. Boot strap reset hella faster and good memory divider. I have had it enough with this board..:mad:

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Originally Posted by syne_24

damn the 1801 bios :banana::banana::banana::banana: me over. After I flashed it, I noticed my reading on temps was a bit off than normal. So I decided to flash back to 1503 and that's when all of a sudden it got corrupted. Never happened before, I have flash atleast 50 times on this board. Anyways had to get another bios chip to get it working. Asus bios recovery cd didnt even work! I'm really pissed at this board now. BTW I just tested the 680i and we have been getting screw on this board. That thing boots 2x faster and no hang up when overclocking failed. Boot strap reset hella faster and good memory divider. I have had it enough with this board..:mad:

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Very few care about another make/model in this thread.

bich

what did you use to get the temps from the Northbridge and Southbridge? Also is there a way to see what thm PWM temps are on this board?

What is best bios so far?

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Originally Posted by Tarowah

bich
what did you use to get the temps from the Northbridge and Southbridge? Also is there a way to see what thm PWM temps are on this board?

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as stated in my post above:
- temps measured with Fluke 62 Mini IR thermometer.
- best $85 USD investment made, for building stable machines
(would guess it should be standard tool for any serious, radical OC'ers)
http://us.fluke.com/usen/products/Fluke+60+Series.htm

PWM temps, as in a software application?
- not that I'm aware of.....
- don't know if there are thermal PWM feedback sensors on P5WDH boards

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Originally Posted by GrossmeisterB

I got a strange probleme with my computer, maybe you guys can help me out...

I've got a P5W DH (older rev. with 1,65Vmch), C2D E6400 which ran at 3500MHz all the time (watercooled)...one day it started to behave strange, it "freezed" suddenly, without having some high CPU load or whatever...

then I bootet with non o'ced settings, and it all worked fine again...then I tried again with my 3500MHz settings which ran fine all the time...then it restarted after about 1.5h (just surfing the net etc.)....I bootet again with the overclocked settings, and all was fine again, when after about another 1.5/2h it freezed...I dunno what the problem could be, my XP installation is new, did a new install on 12/31, but no changes!!
I also thought it could be my harddrive...I have this Scythe HDD Silencer, where the harddrive ist "upside down"...I pulled it out and turned it 180°, so the HDD is in "normal" position now...I powered it on again, and it worked fine so far (just had 1.5h to test)...

so what else could be the problem? how could I check if something's damaged (e.g. the board/cpu or whatever)....

Thanks in advance everyone!!

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No one can help me?

I did some further testing yesterday, I increased the Vcore a little bit, and let the PC run Orthos dual stress test (with small FFTs) for >2h (like 2h15min), no crashes, no errors...
Before I did that, I checked all programs that will start up with windows and disabled some stuff there, could that have been the problem?!?! I dunno, if it's stable on Orthos for 2h, there can't be THAT big problem making the computer crash everytime I'm surfing the internet or what...

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Originally Posted by BulldogPO

What is best bios so far?

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1707 works great for me. :)

I tried 1801 and I noticed the temps in TAT and coretemp are slightly different and seem higher than 1707!

With 1801, 400x9 (3.6Ghz), vcore 1.6V, mem V at 2.2V, MCH set to 1.65V, ICH set to 1.2V, FSB set to 1.5V, PCI X freq at 110 and PCI clock at 33.33 it ran Orthos using just the CPU stress test for at least 20mins, stopped as temps were too high.

Can't boot at 450x8 though and can't boot higher than 429*9.

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Originally Posted by Phoenix_TT

I tried 1801 and I noticed the temps in TAT and coretemp are slightly different and seem higher than 1707!

With 1801, 400x9 (3.6Ghz), vcore 1.6V, mem V at 2.2V, MCH set to 1.65V, ICH set to 1.2V, FSB set to 1.5V, PCI X freq at 110 and PCI clock at 33.33 it ran Orthos using just the CPU stress test for at least 20mins, stopped as temps were too high.

Can't boot at 450x8 though and can't boot higher than 429*9.

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So, what is the diffrent in 1707 and 1801?
Should i flash 1707 or 1801?

walste,

I have no idea what 1801 changed. Certainly there doesn't appear to be any new BIOS options.

I would recommend 1707, but I've tried so many bioses I'm losing track of what's better for me. You can always flash back to a previous version, if necessary.

Asus needs to sort out the BIOS for this motherboard once and for all. I'm only really playing with my E6600 and P5W to see how far I can push it. I was originally aiming to get 4.0Ghz but this is not possible. I have been able to boot at 3.9Ghz, but not run Windows and I can't get dual prime or Orthos stable at 3.6Ghz, however at this speed I've used it for light duties and it works ok and temps seem reasonable. Problem is I seem to run out of time to do all this playing and testing! Having a thread like this is really useful and I have to say thanks to all who have contributed to it so far ....

Hi guys! I need some help here. :)

I'm running an E6600 on P5W DH Deluxe mobo, 1707 bios. But atm, I can't change my CPU fsb in the bios in any way (I see the option, it isnt grayed out, but simply nothing happens when I press enter), but I can change any other thing like voltages etc. What's the problem here? I disabled alot of stuff like hyperpath 3, q-fan, etc.

Another thing is that I can't disable 'Virtualization Technology', simply because it's grayed out.

Any help would be appreciated!

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Originally Posted by Gig4moller

Hi guys! I need some help here. :)

I'm running an E6600 on P5W DH Deluxe mobo, 1707 bios. But atm, I can't change my CPU fsb in the bios in any way (I see the option, it isnt grayed out, but simply nothing happens when I press enter), but I can change any other thing like voltages etc. What's the problem here? I disabled alot of stuff like hyperpath 3, q-fan, etc.

Another thing is that I can't disable 'Virtualization Technology', simply because it's grayed out.

Any help would be appreciated!

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There isn't a drop down list for FSB, you type in a number and then press enter, e.g for 3.2Ghz enter 356

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Originally Posted by Phoenix_TT

I tried 1801 and I noticed the temps in TAT and coretemp are slightly different and seem higher than 1707!

With 1801, 400x9 (3.6Ghz), vcore 1.6V, mem V at 2.2V, MCH set to 1.65V, ICH set to 1.2V, FSB set to 1.5V, PCI X freq at 110 and PCI clock at 33.33 it ran Orthos using just the CPU stress test for at least 20mins, stopped as temps were too high.

Can't boot at 450x8 though and can't boot higher than 429*9.

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Are you sure it´s not a heat problem? Have you tried to cold down the northbridge?
It seems that the MCH voltage is not limiting you overclock, cos you were able to boot at 429..so maybe its a heat problem..
Also what stepping/batch number is your cpu?

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Originally Posted by monza1412

Are you sure it´s not a heat problem? Have you tried to cold down the northbridge?
It seems that the MCH voltage is not limiting you overclock, cos you were able to boot at 429..so maybe its a heat problem..
Also what stepping/batch number is your cpu?

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It's a week 24, however I packed away the CPU box with batch no and it's not easy to get to at the moment. Is there another way to find out this information ?

I have a small 40mm fan on the northbridge. I've removed the covers on the heatsink and used AS5 for north and southbridges.

I'll double check if the northbridge heatsink is getting hot. As far as I'm aware there are no tools to measure the northbridge temp, correct me if I'm wrong