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10-11-2009, 08:59 PM
Splave

Quote:

Originally Posted by dylskee

Crap, so that means I'm running my SLI setup @x8? Here's a screenie of GPU-Z.
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4114/vcss.jpg

I doubt you see any difference at all by switching to the other x16 slot :up:
10-11-2009, 09:47 PM
Capper5016

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAE

All Classifieds I know of would mostly undervolt VTT, some exceptions will get you what's been set in BIOS. All reports of too high vtt I've been reading were from people relying on BIOS readings (Eleet)...

My board was always showing about 0.1V too high vtt. 1.35V set resulted in 1.324V under load and idle - eleet reading 1.43V!

That's the case with all the classifieds friends and fellow ocers are/were owning. Some of the 760 I know of were at least getting you the set voltage for DMM readouts.

You really might have an EXCEPTION board here, as the classified has been out for quite some months now and I never saw any reports about too high vtt DMM readouts anywhere on the web.

Nope, I'm a dumbass...typed it backwards.....ELEET says 1.33V and actual is 1.30V
10-11-2009, 10:15 PM
CikaNovo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capper5016

Heres the thing, if you have the E760, you can use the 1 &3 slots for x16, but if you use any slot besides the PCI-E x1 slot, its going to be x8, because the E-760 doesnt have the NF200. A lot of people were disappointed after buying the E760 when they tried to plug in a sound card, or RAID controller and couldnt figure out why they were running x8 in SLI.

Thats a good explanation.
So basically, when running SLI in slots 1 and 3, by placing any other card in slots 2 or 4 you will have all 4 slots running at x8, even slot no1.
Right?
10-11-2009, 10:35 PM
Capper5016

The E759 can run x16 in the top 3 PCI-E slots, because it has the NF200 chip, which provides extra lanes. The E760 doesnt have the NF200 chip, so you are limited to:

Slot #1 x16, or x8 if slot #2 is occupied
Slot #2 x8
Slot #3 16x, or x8 if slot #4 is occupied
Slot #4 x8
10-12-2009, 06:49 AM
CikaNovo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capper5016

The E759 can run x16 in the top 3 PCI-E slots, because it has the NF200 chip, which provides extra lanes. The E760 doesnt have the NF200 chip, so you are limited to:

Slot #1 x16, or x8 if slot #2 is occupied
Slot #2 x8
Slot #3 16x, or x8 if slot #4 is occupied
Slot #4 x8

Just what I wanted to know.
Thanks
10-12-2009, 07:26 AM
SAE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capper5016

Nope, I'm a dumbass...typed it backwards.....ELEET says 1.33V and actual is 1.30V

lol... :D

That makes more sense. I don't state there could be no exception, but I did not read of it up until now. Vdimm is likely to overvolt by some margin... I have seen some weird numbers from several users. :eek:
10-12-2009, 07:36 AM
SoulsCollective

This might have come up already, but with 31 pages of thread I'm not likely to find it.

Is anyone else having issues with dropping RAM in Windows? Seemingly at random, I'll boot into Windows to see "6.00GB (xGB usable)" in System Properties, and games etc. only have access to that reduced amount of memory. CPU-Z and every other utility I've tried shows the full 6GB, but Windows only thinks that lesser amount is "usable". I can get it to see the full amount rebooting a few times or by swapping around the DIMMs from slot to slot, but the problem just reoccurs with the new configuration until I swap my RAM around again. I've tried Memtest, which passes, and boosting vTT and vCore hugely, but it doesn't seem to do anything.
10-12-2009, 07:54 AM
Infa

This i noticed, maybe not exactly the same, but there is a setting like the old "aparture" setting, atleast in my DFI there are, should be used when having SLI or so, dedicating more memory for the graphics, I once noticed in win 7, it showed 3GB, 2GB usable, wtf? well then "lowgap" was set so it was dedicating 1gb for graphics......i lowerd this, and its back to normal..... dunno bout the Classy? or perhps its not your problem at all :) seen some strange behaviour about this on all board, RAM not showing, or even working as it should, CPU mem channel problems? think some have fixed this by changing either mobo or cpu.
10-12-2009, 08:04 AM
Expat GriZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoulsCollective

This might have come up already, but with 31 pages of thread I'm not likely to find it.

Is anyone else having issues with dropping RAM in Windows? Seemingly at random, I'll boot into Windows to see "6.00GB (xGB usable)" in System Properties, and games etc. only have access to that reduced amount of memory. CPU-Z and every other utility I've tried shows the full 6GB, but Windows only thinks that lesser amount is "usable". I can get it to see the full amount rebooting a few times or by swapping around the DIMMs from slot to slot, but the problem just reoccurs with the new configuration until I swap my RAM around again. I've tried Memtest, which passes, and boosting vTT and vCore hugely, but it doesn't seem to do anything.

I had this happen on the Blood Rage & the Classified 759. Once was too much pressure on the the CPU by the WB & the other was to re-seat the processor in the holder. There is a little play and re-seating it dead center did the trick for me. Hope this helps, :D
10-12-2009, 09:00 AM
Havox

anyone else get dead link when trying to update bios.
10-12-2009, 09:12 AM
Splave

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoulsCollective

This might have come up already, but with 31 pages of thread I'm not likely to find it.

Is anyone else having issues with dropping RAM in Windows? Seemingly at random, I'll boot into Windows to see "6.00GB (xGB usable)" in System Properties, and games etc. only have access to that reduced amount of memory. CPU-Z and every other utility I've tried shows the full 6GB, but Windows only thinks that lesser amount is "usable". I can get it to see the full amount rebooting a few times or by swapping around the DIMMs from slot to slot, but the problem just reoccurs with the new configuration until I swap my RAM around again. I've tried Memtest, which passes, and boosting vTT and vCore hugely, but it doesn't seem to do anything.

I would try playing with the memory low gap in the memory section of the bios? :shrug:
10-12-2009, 05:10 PM
dylskee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbylite

I doubt you see any difference at all by switching to the other x16 slot :up:

Even for benchmarks? I would hate to drain the loop to move the card to slot 3 but if i'm going to take a performance hit I'll suck it up and move it. :shrug:
10-13-2009, 04:44 AM
quattro_

need some help,
im getting BSOD : IRQL_NOT LESS_OR_EQUAL
trying to get it stable @4ghz

CPU Clock Ratio : 20
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) : 190
DRAM Frequency - DDR3 - 1451MHz

eVGA VDroop Control : Without vDroop
CPU VCore : 1.275V
CPU VTT Voltage : +75mV
CPU PLL VCore : Auto
IOH PLL VCore : Auto
QPI PLL VCore : Auto
DIMM Voltage : 1.60V ---> 1.65 bios reading + e-leet
DIMM DQ Vref : +0mV
IOH VCore : 1.200V
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage : Auto
ICH Vcore : Auto
VTT PWM Frequency : 250 Khz
CPU PWM Frequency : 800 Khz
CPU Impedance : Auto
QPI Signal Compensation : Auto

everything els is on Auto
10-13-2009, 10:54 AM
Capper5016

Quote:

Originally Posted by quattro_

need some help,
im getting BSOD : IRQL_NOT LESS_OR_EQUAL
trying to get it stable @4ghz

CPU Clock Ratio : 20
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) : 190
DRAM Frequency - DDR3 - 1451MHz

eVGA VDroop Control : Without vDroop
CPU VCore : 1.275V
CPU VTT Voltage : +75mV
CPU PLL VCore : Auto
IOH PLL VCore : Auto
QPI PLL VCore : Auto
DIMM Voltage : 1.60V ---> 1.65 bios reading + e-leet
DIMM DQ Vref : +0mV
IOH VCore : 1.200V
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage : Auto
ICH Vcore : Auto
VTT PWM Frequency : 250 Khz
CPU PWM Frequency : 800 Khz
CPU Impedance : Auto
QPI Signal Compensation : Auto

everything els is on Auto

EDIT:
At first glance, I'd recommend boosting the VCore a couple notches.
If you still have the same issue after trying that, boost the VDIMM a notch. the rest of your settings look pretty good... Although I have found dropping the CPU and QPI PLL to 1.625V helps stability during overclocking.
10-13-2009, 11:03 AM
Splave

Quote:

Originally Posted by dylskee

Even for benchmarks? I would hate to drain the loop to move the card to slot 3 but if i'm going to take a performance hit I'll suck it up and move it. :shrug:

nope :)
10-13-2009, 12:21 PM
quattro_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capper5016

EDIT:
At first glance, I'd recommend boosting the VCore a couple notches.
If you still have the same issue after trying that, boost the VDIMM a notch. the rest of your settings look pretty good... Although I have found dropping the CPU and QPI PLL to 1.625V helps stability during overclocking.

:up: thanks man, i just finished running Memtest 86+ for 4 hours "3 loops" with no errors :)
ill try to bump VCore and prime again if that dont work ill lower the QPI PLL as you said .
10-13-2009, 02:36 PM
Computurd

They released a bios allowing PCI-e packet size to be manipulated last week, i am running tri-sli AND a raid card that is x8....SO what do you guys think has anyone tested different packet sizes on this board yet? if so, results?
10-13-2009, 04:53 PM
quattro_

ok stable now @4ghz
my settings are :

Frequency Control
CPU Clock Ratio ( 20X )
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 190 )
MCH Strap ( Auto )
CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( Auto ) ---> ok to leave it Auto ??
CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps )
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )
PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 100 )

Memory Feature
Memory Speed ( Standard )
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )
Memory Frequency ( 1067Mhz / 2:8 )
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )
Memory Low Gap ( auto )
tCL Setting ( 7 )
tRCD Setting ( 7 )
tRP Setting ( 7 )
tRAS Setting ( 26 )
tRFC Setting ( 59 )
Command Rate ( 1t )

Voltage Control
EVGA VDroop Control ( Without VDroop )
CPU VCore ( 1.3 )
CPU VTT Voltage ( +75 )
CPU PLL VCore ( 1.650 ) ---> is this ok? the default was 1.8
IOH PLL VCore ( Auto )
QPI PLL VCore ( Auto )
DIMM Voltage ( 1.60 )
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0mV )
IOH VCore ( Auto )
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( Auto )
ICH VCore ( Auto )
**VTT PWM Frequency ( 250 )
**CPU PWM Frequency ( 800 )
**CPU Impedance ( Auto )
**QPI Signal Compensation ( Auto )

CPU Feature
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )
CxE Function ( Disabled )
Execute Disable Bit ( Enabled )
Virtualization Technology ( Disabled )
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )
Active Processor Cores ( All )
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )
QPI Frequency Selection ( Auto )

if im doing anything wrong please let me know :)
do you guys consider IBT 10 runs @ max memory ok for stability testing ?
10-13-2009, 07:45 PM
Splave

I wouldnt change anything quattro :) looks great
10-13-2009, 09:22 PM
Capper5016

Now that you have it stable, do a little tinkering and see if it helps you push it a little further, or if it allows you to lower the VCore, or if it affects benchmarking results:

for your OC, you can probably switch to "Without VDroop" and run the VCore at 1.265 to 1.275 (put it under load, and see what your voltage rises to after a few minutes, then adjust your VCore to the closest setting to what you see under load). As to your VTT, at that freq, you can probably leave VTT at "Auto", with the Classifieds I've played with, I didn't have to add VTT until I passed 4.2GHz.....especially with the Uncore at "Auto" (its fine there unless you are trying to squeeze every last benchmarking point out of your system).

BRB to "3" (This is found under Memory Settings and improves memory scores)
VTT PWM Frequency to "610"
CPU PWM Frequency to "1210"
CPU Impedance to "Less"
QPI Signal Compensation to "Less"
10-14-2009, 03:48 AM
malkiewicz

My classified died today.... FF code.... Tried everything (New Ram, CPU, PSU, GPU) Nothing works... This really sucks.....

Edit:

I powered it down before I went to bed last night and tried to restart it again this morning… For some reason it powers up with the FF code and restarts after a few seconds with the same code…
10-14-2009, 04:55 AM
Splave

Quote:

Originally Posted by malkiewicz

My classified died today.... FF code.... Tried everything (New Ram, CPU, PSU, GPU) Nothing works... This really sucks.....

Edit:

I powered it down before I went to bed last night and tried to restart it again this morning… For some reason it powers up with the FF code and restarts after a few seconds with the same code…

The trick for that is pressing down hard on the bios chip while you boot. Worked for a couple people so far :up:
10-14-2009, 05:12 AM
quattro_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbylite

I wouldnt change anything quattro :) looks great

:up: thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capper5016

Now that you have it stable, do a little tinkering and see if it helps you push it a little further, or if it allows you to lower the VCore, or if it affects benchmarking results:

for your OC, you can probably switch to "Without VDroop" and run the VCore at 1.265 to 1.275 (put it under load, and see what your voltage rises to after a few minutes, then adjust your VCore to the closest setting to what you see under load). As to your VTT, at that freq, you can probably leave VTT at "Auto", with the Classifieds I've played with, I didn't have to add VTT until I passed 4.2GHz.....especially with the Uncore at "Auto" (its fine there unless you are trying to squeeze every last benchmarking point out of your system).

BRB to "3" (This is found under Memory Settings and improves memory scores)
VTT PWM Frequency to "610"
CPU PWM Frequency to "1210"
CPU Impedance to "Less"
QPI Signal Compensation to "Less"

thanks again, its actual "Without VDroop" i overlooked the template .
ill try reducing the vtt and test again, im going to OC further after i get the nb/sb block from BitsPower + other components :) .
also the RAM im using is my friend's im ordering DOMINATOR GT, 6GB (3x2GB), 2000MHz, 7-8-7-20 , will it play well with classified ?
10-14-2009, 01:22 PM
malkiewicz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbylite

The trick for that is pressing down hard on the bios chip while you boot. Worked for a couple people so far :up:

Nope that didn't work. Looks like its time to RMA this board..... :(
10-14-2009, 01:55 PM
quattro_

update,
vcore 1.28125
cpuvtt +0mV

passed 10 IBT runs at maximum memory :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by malkiewicz

Nope that didn't work. Looks like its time to RMA this board..... :(

:( sorry to hear that, this FF thing is a common problem in EVGA boards i have had 3 780i board with FF, hope they replace your board ASAP.

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