Many P5E users need to know what has been added in bios that is working and what is not.
1)Can you monitor more voltages?
2)Can you adjust more voltage options?
3)Have you all memory timings available of Rampage?
4)Are these settable?
5)Only second gigabit is excluded or and something else?
I think you will be very happy with themQuote:
Originally Posted by ericab
Set Legacy USB Support to enableQuote:
Originally Posted by TheOriginalTB
Grab the latest Everest 4.20.1307 Its a beta but it works great with this board.
On the MF I wasnt able to boot past 505 FSB now with RF bios I can boot 530FSB. Once you get the settings tweak'd I'm sure you can clock higher
with this mod, can come back to original p5e bios after turn on a rampage ? simply question :)
Yes you can change to P5E back (even to Maximus Formula is possible i think)
There is a known bug with usb glitch in X38.
I do not know how exactly appears.
Can someone describe it and tell if it has been fixed here?
The only that i can tell is that when leaving legacy support system hangs at
Windows when loading.
what are the old and what are the new revisions at now ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by iadstudio
I would just run your mem between 800-950, I dont even think you can notice the performance gain from 950+ on these DDR2's.Quote:
Originally Posted by ericab
I notice the gains in timings way more than mhz. Drop it down to 900 and you can easily hit 4-4-4-10
and with only 2 sticks you can maybe hit 4-3-4-9 at 900mhz or less
idk. As soon as they changed from the 2 sided sticks to the single sided ones, I stopped using them. There are a few threads around here dedicated to Ballistix. You might find some info there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sources
Legacy mode IS anebaled, also tried to disable it - same issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Can I use the new beta Everest on my current licence?
Tred to set everything as conservative as possible, but still no post at anything above 480 MHz FSB.
1) Yes, they are in the BIOS, but not in Everest and such.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
1) Yes, the same as all of you with Maximus and Rampages.
3) Yes, the same as above. We literally have a Maximus now, minus volt LEDs, that second LAN and some temp sensors like NB and SB. They are all listed, but show weird results (-64ºC and such)
4) You can see it in the BIOS, but even if it is activated you will see anything in Windows (of course, it isn't really there :D)
Ok clear, have to inform my P5E friends.
Hi
Anybody here experienced this im not able to boot if I put memory in B channel the 2 on the right of the board, tried crucial ballistix 2 x 1024 44412, mushkin 2x2 gigbyte 6400 44412, and a pair og kingston ordinary brand, if I put both in A channel it boots fine but then no dual channel, its off course a Maximus formula board, just hangs at DET DRAM.
Kr Menty
wasup, and is necessary make a usb stick bootable with the hp tool :confused: or can format in windows and then only copy the afudos and the bios :shrug:
That's so weird. I've never had any problems with my Ballistix on this board. If anything, 4x1 has been a lot better on X38 than on 680i.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade5399
mine actually ran great at 1130 2.15v, but one day I turnad it on and was getting errors. Happened twice. Always the new revision. idk if there was some kind of ripple or voltage anomaly, but the new revision sticks did not like my board.
Are your sticks single sided or double sided?
It seems my Ballistix have crapped out as well.
My system has been stable for weeks, running 24h Prime95 blend, 12 hour OCCT ram 12h, OCCT cpu 12h, to about 500% coverage on HCI memtest (ran 2 threads, 1500 MB on each).
Now, after I tried tightening the timings, and I went back to my stable OC Profile, it's not working anymore.
I get errors in HCI Memtest after like 10-20% and nothing I do with volts seem to have any influence at all.
The sticks have been running at 2.14v (BIOS) and 2.22v (Everest) all the time.
Oh well, I have ordered 2 sticks of 2GB Mushkin eXtreme Performance (XP2-8500).
Hopefully these will work better :)
You need to use the HP utility and the DOS image; after you put on afudos and the bios image and if you want you can create a .bat file that starts automatically afudos with the correct parameters.Quote:
Originally Posted by DualCore
You can not format from Windows a removable volume as a system one.
yup, you can even create the bat in dos with the following commandsQuote:
Originally Posted by Brama
copy con afu.bat
afudos /iINSERTROMNAMEHERE /n /pbnc
ctrl + z
now you have a afu.bat! :up:
I was never able to boot from my USB stick; this force me to use it as a HD and boot from my Win98 CD to access itQuote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
Hi there guys,
I have to give this bios thing a run...
I´m using 0505 bios basically because with 0907 on experiments if i got the det ram thing and had to clr cmos or on/off (sometimes reset just didnt work!) only way to get it to boot again would be taking out the ram and reinserting old corsair twinx 6400. too much of an assle.
If i had sold those corsair rams i guess i would be screwed up!!
0505 is pretty much more stable, guess what?? for the rest is all together the same, even oc´ing.
My transcend axeram 1200 likes juice, so im feeding it 2.3vbios (2.4 everest) for 1173 (440x8 fsb strap 400) T 5-5-5-15, subtimmings all auto, static enabled, clocktwister strong, and enabled 0 (yes, ho hangs by mixing static read and performance enabled 0)
but i can only reach everest read 9.890 at 50.5 ns
Do you guys think i should give bios rampage 0219 a go?
somehow i feel i still need some more feedback days.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mentaly
if its bios 0907 u prob have to swipe rams altogether and on blue slot 1 just to have a propper boot, then revert back to these ones
I wonder how many people here will remember basic dos pre-year 85 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
ahahahahah prob not too many. I grew on that, which makes me quite old lolololol
greets
Quote:
Originally Posted by askimo
neither did i, probably have to use a partitioning ap to create a primary one on the pen then format with system? i wonder. ill try
guess i might be SOL also since i have the 1066 crucial ballistix tracers too. so for everyone that has these ram sticks, are the single sided or double sided no longer compatible. and are the single sided sticks the revision? talk about some BS these companies cant get their compatibilities straightened out BEFORE they release their products.
in the mean time my sticks seem to still work. im goin to kick them down to 800 with a low voltage and possible tighten the timings to compensate for this disaster
I wouldn't be surprised to see some lawsuit at some point, either at Asus or the memory chip makers. This is not acceptable.
I know that even if I get my formula board running again, I doubt I'll buy Asus again. Never have I had so many problems with a motherboard. I've never spent this much money on a board before either... just proves that you don't always get what you pay for. I'm wishing I had went for that $67 Abit board (after rebates).
Does anyone who done the rampage mod using crossfire ??
Trying to get my 3870:s to work, can see both cards in CCC but Gpuz says Ati crossfire is Disable.
Any tips ??
@ turbodream. make sure that crossfire is enabled in ccc if it is and does not work, reload the drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbodream
@ ninogui. try hitting f8 on the post screen when you boot and select the usb stick as the boot device.
@TURBODREAM
many of us have had better luck with our software, with a full reinstall of windows....
but you could just try a complete uninstall of your GFX drivers, and then a new reinstall...
and if that doesnt work;
shutdown computer
open case
remove 2nd GFX card (and sli cable)
boot up
shut down
reinstall 2nd GFX card (and sli cable)
reinstall drivers
Would this bios have any better compatibility with ram than the Maximus bios? (in terms of just being able to run with the memory, without errors, not overclocking)
sb2 i think is southbridge... should say ppl or something like that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Yay for Cheese
although i have no hard evidence; i would assume so since its a nextgen board, and has a newer bios then the maximusQuote:
Originally Posted by tc17
In CCC the crossfireX is enabled. I can clock both cards, but when i´m looking in gpuz it´s says disable. Talk to one guy using crossfire also and his gpuz says enable for him, he sitting on a Formula Maximus to. I have tried to reinstall drivers with only 1 card and i have tried to reinstall with both cards. The strange thing is that earlier today i tried a run in 3dmark01 ( know that CF doesn´t improve anything ) with both cards and i got 51000p , then i tried with 1 card same clocks and everything and got 53000p that time. Really strand i think.
" Ericab " i will try that thing you told me, with boot up u mean just fire it up and shut down or go the full way and load windows and shut down ??
@Turbodream
I had a few "issues" after the mod, a fresh OS install solved them all
I would recommend it, its worth the hassle
Some more feedback on my "P5E Rampage Formula". After performing the vdroop mod on my P5E i was down to 0.008 vdroop under load. Which is quite good. But now the option in the bios actually works! Now i GAIN 0.008v under load. :up:
I have to trust u then :) Only sux that i´m running dualboot with XP & Vista. But what the heck, i have a fast rampage :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
mate im sure you already did this but can you post me your settings for 4.05ghz on your q6600...
cheers man...(i cant get stable at 4ghz + but im sure i will with the right bios/bios settings combination....
cheers
gordy!
Can the Asus maximus formula handle 2 x 4gb ddr2 ram (or more generally can the X38 do this)
See link for this ram
http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=7425
Kevin
I know it can do 4 x 2gb no problems (with the right bios)
For me, there's no CPU PLL voltage in Probe2, everest, or HWmonitor. The only thing I have with PLL in it is the southbridge PLL.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
I made a dos usb stick following this > http://www.bay-wolf.com/usbmemstick.htmQuote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
Then I put the afudos and RF0219 bios on it, booted from it, and done the above quoted commands. Whats the bat do?
What do I do next, sorry for asking this :)
If I type afudos i<romname> /n or afudos i<romname> /n /pbnc I get a error saying this program must be run in MS DOS. Do I still need the cripple files from the OP?
This is P5E btw.
mabye it doesnt like the dos version you got. follow the boot instructions from page 1 as they are verified to work. skip the rest of the flash instructions, just the boot disk instructions. then continue with the afudos and stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by necron66
*edit*
i personally have not heard of nor experienced a bios as felxible as this rampage bios... we all owe The Stilt a big thanks for pioneering this whole adventure.
After playing with Maximus and Rampage BIOSes I will keep Maximus' 1004. Faster and more stable, the extra options of the Rampage do almost nothing for 2x2GB overclocking. I've noticed too that Rampage looses timmings at high FSBs, much more than P5E and Maximus.
QFT.Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
Not too impressed here either. L727A Q6600 here w/ 2x1GB Dominators under Vista x64. Extra settings in BIOS did nothing to "push the limits". X38 WC'd. X48 must be lamo mass production BS... Waiting for Nehalem platform.
Ok seems to have worked..... Bios is very different looking now with the rampage spash screen. Everest still reports it as a p5e tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
I'm thinking the site got it backwards and it is 4x2gb. As far as I always knew the DDR2 protocol can only use 2gb per slot... that's why all the boards are 8gb cap.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinali
all to their own :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by ElEctric_EyE
How I can set FSB : DRAM 1:1 on Maximus Formula rev 1.3g? Bios 1004..
Ok more updates from me :)
Seems like the timing on the PCIe ports are different - using the same overclock on my 8800GT and the display driver crashes - just tried reverting back to 1004MF BIOS, and it runs smoothly again, going back to RF0219 - and I have to lower the overclock on the 8800GT. Max temp on the 8800GT is 46, so seems like it's not a temperature issue
Keep in mind Rampage bios is still beta as the board isn't out in public yet. I bet that by the time it's released (very soon from what I heard), there will be a new version...
rampage bios 0219
hmm something weird happened
my e8500 core temp vid was 1.05v..
that was on the maximus testing over a week etc
then went to rampage it was the same..
for some reason i was curious at the effect of the SB 1.5 standby and i upped it to 1.6v after failing orthos/OCCT for a certain clock..
then my vid suddenly became 1.1125???
and it seems to be that vid from now on and weird part now occt/prime passed that clock.
changed back to maximus bios and after a few tries it went back to 1.05v..
weird..
but everest vid reading is still the same.
Hi, 1004 more or less official now ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...rmula-1004.zip
Chris
I wonder if there are any changes form the beta that was leaked. That bios messed my 9650 setup up. Not sure if I'll try this one or not after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by cuke2u
Hi, the date of the bios is exactly the same so you can take your own conclusions from that...
Chris
i wonder if they will ever release another non beta bios. i think the last official one was 802.
I compared the checksum of the leaked and the official 1004 and the results are the same. Therefore there is no difference between the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
and I wonder if we ever see another bios again for the MF
i would highly recommend that you re-load your os after doing the flash. this in my and others experience has corrected the few bugs that happen.
Now I saw the EXACT opposite. I was able to clock my shader higher after the Rampage conversion. Also, my max playable settings for Crysis on my 8800GT have gone up. It no longer crashes at 860/1960/2000 like it used to...Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOriginalTB
This would explain the different behaviors, especially in this case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xilikon
I would also like to know the settings if not phase cooled. I have a max formula that runs 475x8 easy and never ran stable for 440x9 with q6600.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjagordy
Now I also have a striker 2 formula running 450x9 easy and working on 460x9 so it was not the cpu holding me back. Also there is a guy running 500x8 fsb with q6600 and striker 2 formula that I am waiting for settings on and will shareu
Further updates are still in progress...
Maximus Formula v1.03G
BIOS 0505
*~ Q6600 G0 - Batch: L723A765 - VID: 1.2625
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...u/DSC00009.jpg
*~ New revision double sided 2x1GB 1066 Ballistix Tracers - CL118Q.C1
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...su/Tracer1.jpg
*~ Thermalright Ultra120 Xtreme lapped (2* Scythe S-Flex SFF21F S-FDB 120mm 1600RPM Push-Pull configuration)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...u/DSC00022.jpg
For the rest of other system components, please see my signature for details.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...isu/3720OC.jpg
The mobo came with BIOS 0602 and its OC stability was OK until ~460FSB. I didn't spend enough time with the original 0602 due to constantly random DET RAM hang at high +460FSB.
I eventually flashed to the newest Beta BIOS MF1004 using EZ flash and it was capable of going up to ~470-475FSB but it's still unstable for high FSB with the Quad core.
There was memory compatibility and OC stability issues and same DET RAM hang with MF1004 BIOS at high FSB test settings.
As per KUP's recommendation, I downgraded the BIOS to 0505.
Easy way using EZ Flash: Reflash with a current or newer BIOS file and shut the system down while it's in the flashing process.
Rename the MF0505 BIOS file in the root directory of your USB drive to FORMULA.ROM and now turn on the system to get auto BIOS recovery.
It will auto do an erase and search and reflash to the FORMULA.ROM bios file(renamed 0505 in this case). It's completely safe and you'll just need to do a full CMOS clear after.
I'm very impressed by the new revision double sided 2x1GB 1066 Ballistix Tracer kit by the way.
Eventhough some has complained about its compatibility and OC-ability with this mobo but I do find the new rev double sided Ballistix Tracers to have great OC-ability with relatively low given volts.
I also have an older Ballistix Tracers 1066 2GB kit from last year to compare and it's capable of being stable @ DDR2-1165 (5-5-4-9-3-30-3-3-8) from my previous P5K-Deluxe setup.
But, it doesn't scale well with given volt and not stable at 5-4-4-9 primary timings.
Now Look closely at new rev. double sided Ballistix Tracers primary timings and the subtimings to its given VDimm in the template. :up:
I feel that there may be still a small room for further timings tightening but it's more than good enough for now.
Ambient Room Temp: 21C degree
Closed Case - Well ventilated in Antec 900
Idle temp 20 min after bench sessions: Core1: 33 Core2: 33 Core3: 30 Core4: 32
OCCT 100% Load: Core1: 65.5 Core2: 65.5 Core3: 62.5 Core4: 62.5
Prime95 Small FFT 100% Load: Core1: 66 Core2: 66 Core3: 63 Core4: 63
Best CPU Score in 3DMark06 - Vista x64
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5837062
The following template is a reference for a 99.9% 24/7 stable configuration on air. Several hours of testing sessions using OCCT 2.0.0.a MIX and Prime95 v25.6 Blend/Small FFT stable.
Most importantly, no cold boot issue and no DET RAM hang with the following specific configuration.:up:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...3h17-VCore.png
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 465
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1116 [5:6 Divider]
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 9
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO [More bandwidth]
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : AUTO [More bandwidth]
CPU Voltage : 1.500 [1.480] *Note: 1.472 Vcore is enough for OCCT/Prime stable but 1.480 Vcore further insures stability in cold boot and no DET RAM hang.
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60 [1.712] *Note: AUTO setting will auto scale with given Vcore. You can try manually adjust this setting for high FSB running Quads.
DRAM Voltage : 2.12 [2.206]
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48 [1.520~1.536] Exactly as required for stability and no DET RAM hang.
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10 [1.120]
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference :0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF [1.104]
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5 [1.536]
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : ENABLED
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
The Rampage is already released! Has been for a long time already. The release bios is 0215 too. So 0219 is already an upgrade to the release bios, numerically speaking. It doesn't matter that we haven't seen bios 0215, but technically speaking, 0219 is an upgrade of 0215, albeit it is an alpha bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xilikon
Edit: It needs to be said that X38 and X48 are technically one and the same. The difference may be in the binning process (resulting is less voltage, heat), and I'm yet to see the X48 do something an X38 couldn't do. If my memory serves me right, the only reason why Intel announced X48 was because there were problems with the X38 USB subsystem, and this only popped up in very rare circumstances.
Why I'm I saying this? Asus, like all other mobo manufacturing companies, has had enough time to work for this particular chipset. All the work they did on the X38 chipset was effectively for the X48 chipset as well - you can confirm this by simply flashing a maximus bios to a rampage board and vise versa. I hope for our sakes though Asus engineers would be able to continue squeezing some performance/stability out of these chipsets.
Ok guys
here are my first impressions for migrating to 219 rampage, along with some questions.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...Image22222.jpg
Overall, i noticed no problem whatsoever.
For the very first time:
- Yes! finally i crossed the 10k line for everest memory read! never been able to do this stable on any other bios, from 505 all the way to 907. The rams are on the blue slots (for the very first time in months lolol)
- Opposite to what some people may say, i find it sooo much more stable
- my main settings:
cpu ratio 8x
FSB 442 (3.536ghz)
dram freq. 1178mhz
dram mainsettings 5,5,5,16
dram static read disabled
ai clock twister strong
trans.booster manual
perf.level 6
pull ins all disabled
cpu vcore 1.457 (1.44 everest)
pll 1.64 bios
nb 1.53 (a.55 everest)
fsb term. 1.44
sb volt 1.075
ddr volt 2.32 (2.42 everest)
loadline enabled
cpu gtl x63
nb gtl x67
ddr cont. ref ddr2
funny enough i finally got stability by notching up 1 or 2 times pll, nb, and mainly fsb term and sb. my ram likes juice, so its on 2.32 bios/2.42 everest.
have u guys noticed that the 219 undervolts the cpu on the Q6600G0 ? by as much as .1volt overall.
is it possible that i only got stability notching up fsb term and sb volt, does this make any sense to you.?
which would be the ideal subtimmings to get a little bit more of the ram? (transcend axeram pc 1200)
Sometimes the ddr cmd skew is greyed out, maybe something to do with some item on auto(no idea).
Has anyone messed with the dram clk and cmd skew to good term.? prob a delay for channel A would be in place? (the first socket closer to the nb/cpu)
any comments appreciated.
thks a lot the stilt, grnfinger, erikab, zeneffect and zucker2k and all the others for their risky first few experiments on this
BTW.. after this in practical terms why would anyone ever buy the rampage if u have the formula? all this should shut up people saying bad words about formula. After this.. only skulltrail would make any sense.
rgds
hiQuote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
have you tried to mess around with the skew delays and advance.? that will prob make a difference for 2x2gb.
I run with about the same, only the Max FSB I got was 433. Mem can go 450 at least, but no matter which voltage I change I cant get above 433 stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yay for Cheese
My settings:
BIOS 1004
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 433
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-866
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 14
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0
CPU Voltage : 1.31875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.29
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.63X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5V
Are there RAM dividers on this board? My old P6N could have an 1800fsb and run the ram at 800mhz. All I can find is multiplier settings to go higher than fsb. I have 4 gig sticks of G-Skill 800's which isn't the best and it won't post with anything over 900mhz on the ram.
Quote:
Originally Posted by VinnieWeiss
For me the same. @ 433 MHz is limit whatever settings I use.
your NB volts are to low so are your FSBT volts
1.49 and 1.40 for a start, if your running 4GB you will need to run the NB a tad higher maybe 1.51-1.53
I also have better stability with CPU PLL set to AUTO
set your trfc to 50 or higher
Since we are on the subject I'm wondering about the skew's effect and what they are for. I have 4x4GB G.Skill PC6400 sticks. They run pretty good @ 1066mhz 5-5-5-15 / Trfc-65 / PL-7. That is @ 400 FSB. I got 450x9 to run for a few minutes but it was just so unstable. But I couldn't even post before at 450x9. I'm still on air for a few more weeks. I'm looking to WC the CPU/NB in a few weeks with some excellent gear. I'm also debating on getting some DIMM cooler's as well but I haven't found anything for 4 DIMMS.
Anyways. The Trfc was the ticket to get this stable at just 400x9. I'm thinking that changing the skew evenly would result in the same results but I've not gotten around to testing it just yet. So if anyone else has any input I'm all eyes. :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maglin
I've got g-skill 800's stable at 900 (450x8). Mount a fan on it... that's the answer really, with 4 sticks they get incredibly hot (burning your hand hot) but with a fan it's stable and they run cool.
No I didn't try them, when they release a new Rampage BIOS I'll put it again and will see the results tweaking skew delays. But I'm liking this Maximus 1004 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ninogui
well, as far as i can tell the skews do absolutely nothing for performance. i have not tested for stability at this point but from the highest advanced to lowest delay i saw no difference in everest.Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
i havent check if there is any performace improvement when setting the skews but what i can tell is that it did help on memory OC-able.
The problem with 2x2GB is not perfomance, but stability. 1 subtimming wrong and you'll ruin your overclock. You can't use the same techniques of overcloking with 2x1 and 2x2. They're a lot more sensitive. What does skew delay do exactly BTW?
sup3rfly what are your experiences with this options?
ok with both skew settings set to auto i cant get passed ddr1180 5-5-5-10 but with skew i got it passed to ddr 1290 5-5-5-10.... dual 8m spi... i cant remember whats the settings kind to enlight me whats the settings value then i can tell u which is the one i used...sorry i m sick and was benching with 2 mobo and busy doin insulation on rampage oops maximus formula for DI on this weekend :P
For those with reporting problems in Everest, v4.50.1330 final was released today.
http://www.lavalys.com/products/down...?ps=UE&lang=en
I just got a 1.03G Maximus Formula out of the box and onto the bench.
I'm trying out some 2x4Gig PC28500 sticks that require a Row Refresh Cycle (tRFC) of 56, but there isn't any option above 42.
Pretty much stuffed as the SPD on these sticks are for true DDR2 800 operation and need the higher tRFC for their 1066 operation or above. To at least boot at that speed anyway.
On the P5K-E WiFi ASUS added a few more tRFC options and wondering if there is a Maximus Formula BIOS that might have the same.
Have tried 907.
This might help me stabilize my 800 ram at 950mhz... it's + or - up to 350ps in 50 intervals... do I do + or - to increase stability vs. performance?Quote:
Originally Posted by sup3rfly
ok i think i used -250ps.... it did help in getting higher memory speed but i m not sure if it helps in performance as i was busy insulating the mobo :)
will test it and let u all know later tonite
Yes 1004 can do it and also the rampage formula bios 0214/0219
Using bios official 1004 here is my 4.GHz STABLE settings.
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1069
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0
CPU Voltage : 1.30000v real 2.8v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/205/stableyr7.th.png
Hmmmm... If I set FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400, my memory set ~1151MHz something like that, but windows doesn't boot. My dominator ver is 4.2 I think It's :banana::banana::banana::banana: ?
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Originally Posted by ZenEffect
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Originally Posted by sup3rfly
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Originally Posted by sup3rfly
I guess it makes sense. If looking for stability, channel A skews should be delayed, so the channel B has some recovery time for the strobe status conditions. On the other hand and opposite if your ram allows and you´re looking for pure OC maybe advancing the channel B skew would make sense.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...nami/33333.jpg
One more little landmark for me. Together with rampage bios 219 these memories keep on impressing me, and my feeling is it won´t stop here. You can´t get better than this on memories a little over €100 for 2x1GB...
greets
With Dram Static Enabled + Strong is no go?
If yes then Dram Static Enabled + Moderate is possible?
I have tried Dram Enabled + Strong with errors...
Ok, I'll go check with Dram static Enabled.. Noo.. Don't work with Dram Enabled + Strong.. :banana::banana::banana::banana:
Dram Static Enabled + Moderate?
Of course Strong is better but it seems that i always had Static Enable and that is maybe why Strong is no go.
Oh, hey... anyone notice 1004 went to the master FTP?
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...ximus_Formula/
Still no mention on the downloads page, though.
Yes, I try that, anyway don't boot :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
@Dostoyevsky77 Yes, I use it ;)
See 17 posts up :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dostoyevsky77
Chris
Oh, LOL. Sorry, dude.
I guess I'm not the only one who checks the FTP server first thing after they wake up in the morning!
Someone have E8400 stable at 4Ghz with TEST Blend - stress CPU and RAM ? :confused:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...rmula-1004.zip
No differences with beta which released since few weeks ?
I have already 1004 but when this Bios was not official...
Nope according a few posts earlier these biosses are identical...
the skew's only effect stability. i was running the highest advance on both skews and finally crashed :D
when running normal no problems. since there was no diff in performacne my experiment is concluded and i am back to skew normal.
Why I can't go over 480 FSB ??? :confused: :confused: I use these settings:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 480
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1153
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0
CPU Voltage : 1.40000v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60
Maby need do some changes in Advaced menu or somewhere else ?
Can anybody reassure me that BIOS 1004 supports the Q9450? And if it does, would the X3350 work then as well?
hey zen from my experience -skew help me to oc my ram higher and +skew worse so i think u may wanan try -skew since u say it doesnt affect performance at all :)
im running 1200 on a 400 strap... which means to oc my ram higher by using a different fsb strap (completely re-ocing my computer for stability) i could not attain as high of a cpu oc as the speed of the ram would be through the roof... leaving it to normal suites me just fine. :yepp:
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WHY DOES NOBODY HAVE THE SAME L2 CACHE LATENCY AS ME?!?!?
WHAT IS YOUR L2 CACHE LATENCY? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenEffect
L2 cache latency in Everest test is pure crap in Wolfdale and Yorkfield CPUs compared to Conroe and Kentsfield :(
2.8nsQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
So someone can help me, with this :banana::banana::banana::banana: ? :confused:
In order to make sure it's not your CPU holding you back from doing 9 x 480, try running 8 x 480 instead. That way your CPU will only be running 3.84ghz and you can test for 480Mhz FSB stability. You might also want to try bumping your FSB and North Bridge voltages a few notches as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by jakku
Once you get 8 x 480 stable then you go try again at 9 x 480. If that fails then you know you will have to bump the vcore volts.