Conroe 2.4Ghz on 965G mobo, brief test...

I love you Victor! Keep em comin'! :woot:

Time to get that custom license plate!


EDIT: Argh, "Victor" is taken, gotta go with "Conroe" :D

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BAHAHAHAHA!
Ignorant, please leave the internet. Now.

Conroe has a modified GTK+ fsb architecture, shared 4mb cache, four-issue per clock cycle, 14 stage pipeline, 65nm. Oh! and it has 128 bit SSE registers.
Whereas K8 has a three issue clock cycle, MOESI bus architecture, 64bit SSE registers

Go here: http://www.intel.com/technology/arch...icro/index.htm
Click on the "View flash video", easier to understand for numbskulls like you.

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tha's the k8 not amd's next cpu

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Originally Posted by Jupiler

I think this has gone far enough now.

Leave the useless AMD vs Intel debates out of this topic. All what is resulted was starting a flame war. This is the Intel section anyway, so if you wanna talk about AMD stuff, you do that in the appropriate section, but not here.

The staff also notice the lack of respect towards several X.I.P.'s here lately.
The deserved their title over a longer period of time because of their huge positive contribution towards the community. They deserve the respect we all owe them, so let's give it to them instead of insulting them.

I hope this is the last time one of the staff members needs to step in in this topic.
Any more insults of flame wars will result in a 3-day ban.
I hope this is clear for everyone.

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:YIPPIE:

Fugger, I think you should consider making it so only users with 20+ or so can post in this thread, it is rather ridiculous.

stephen, victor, fugger, and fcg, keep up the good work, I am ever appreciative for any early glimpses that I can get, unfortunately I can not say the same for others. Keep it up boys!

OMFG is very fast... Conroe is tha Powa!

Conroe XE 3.33GHz is mine... soon very soon hhahaha

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Originally Posted by RAGING DRAGON

Signed up a few days ago but only able to post now.

This is great news. I don't care how Intel have done it - architecture smarchitecture.
This CPU looks to be leaps and bounds ahead of anything else. I just hope they don't bump up the price of the CPU and mobos when they realise that almost everyone is going to want one.

By the way, great work VictorWang. Your input is thoroughly appreciated by me and the rest of the community and I look forward to any of your future reviews as well as other contributors.

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Welcome to the forums :toast:

Afaik - prices once set by Intel usually don't change. I could only see something like that happen if demand and supply wold be out of balance and retailers can make a bit extra...


EDIT: But then - didn't Yonah go up :confused:

I think its very unlikely that intels flag CPU will cost half the price of the competitions while probably outperforming it. Its too early to tell, but i think conroes price will be much higher than expected, at least the XE.

Looks like Intel Leaped Ahead ;)

Victor,
Have you been able to run the new Sciencemark 2.0 binaries Alex provided to you. I believe he built a Pentium M and a Pentium 4 version. Those would be very interesting to see. The MD and Primordia tests are coded in x87 by MS's 32-bit compiler, while hopefully Intel's 9.0 32-bit compiler builds code that uses SSE/SSE2.

Tim

victor, I have been a long time reader of extreme (and anandtech,toms hardware, oc forums, [H] etc) but have never had any thing smart to say so I remain quite but I just want to say thanks to yourself ,fugger & fcg for sharing your ESchips, talents and findings with the enthusiast community

Keep up the good work men

gallag

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Originally Posted by White Wizard

Victor,
Have you been able to run the new Sciencemark 2.0 binaries Alex provided to you. I believe he built a Pentium M and a Pentium 4 version. Those would be very interesting to see. The MD and Primordia tests are coded in x87 by MS's 32-bit compiler, while hopefully Intel's 9.0 32-bit compiler builds code that uses SSE/SSE2.

Tim

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i'll run it 8hours later(too tied these days and I have to go to sleep)
thank you very much for the kindly offer.

i'll post the result and email you the txt file as soon as i finish the test

What about testing pcsx2 0.9?:D

Very impressive.

Glad to see the big I finally dropped netblargh for a real evolution of the p3, some real competition will be good, drive dem prices down again :)

Thank You Victor for your efforts. They are very much appreciated! :cool:

And, yeah, that AM2 Spi looks funky, IMHO. :confused:

Strat

I think we will see some nice improvements in the Conroes performance with new mobo and better memory :toast:

He's using a Dell POS board with Conroe....Imagine it on a 975X from Abit...:slobber:

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Originally Posted by savantu

He's using a Dell POS board with Conroe....Imagine it on a 975X from Abit...:slobber:

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I would prefer Asus board, but to be honest anything would be better than that Dell board :D

who said it was a dell board?

AM2 part of VictorWang's testing has been moved to a new thread:
AM2 X2 4600+ with DDR2 667 brief test.... All discussion about that test HAS TO BE there, please! Thank you!

Yeah, i have a feeling AM2 may be a flop, and conroe will win this round. I have high hopes for Brisbane though. (AMD K8L X2 65NM Q1 2007 3Ghz +):slobber:

BTW I also signed up just to post. By now it is obvious that that Conroe is not another flop like netburst was. Netburst at this stage is so bad it's embarrasing. In many FPU related benches, X2-3800 = 965 XE. I only hope amd's AM2 lineup will not be as bad compared to conroe (AMD highend = Intel Low end), but so far, this may actually be the case.

I guess AMD was not expecting Conroe to perform like this. Conroe will most certainly stir up the CPU market. It seems like it is a huge boost from anything today, especially when we look at the rate the speed of CPU's has increased lately (10-15% year maybe (no counting dual cores))

This is good for the consumer -> more CPU power for those who crave it. That being said, most people with the latest and even not so latest tech now have more than enough CPU power to do whatever they need to do. There isn't really a killed app that will absolutely need the latest hardware. Almost any new midrange video card and cpu (not counting celerons) can run any game and any app at acceptible speeds. Anything towards the high end is for people that can brag about the fasterst superPi score or the highest frame rate in a game at some wacky resolution that their monitor does not even support. Of course there is a lot of software that could be faster (most of which is used to do actual work, not game).

But I understand you guys too. I sometimes wish I had a faster CPU, even though I don't need one. I guess its like the people which want feraris, when the speed limit is 100.

My point is that for now, software has a lot of catching up to do. I just don't see the need for new hardware for gaming until there are actually games out that require it, but I guess it's good that some of you do, because otherwise no one will ever develop a better software if no one will be able to run it. I myself will for sure skip the conroe generation. I might buy a K8L though, not because I need to, but just because I can

Is there any news of a newer BIOS for any of the boards becoming available any time soon? I really would love to know how well the Conroe can overclock and how much improvement it will give in performance.

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Originally Posted by Chaos-Storm

My point is that for now, software has a lot of catching up to do. I just don't see the need for new hardware for gaming until there are actually games out that require it.

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high end xfire and sli ppl would disagree with you there.

played oblivion? ;)

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Originally Posted by mouawad

high end xfire and sli ppl would disagree with you there.

played oblivion? ;)

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Not yet. I hear its good. I'll have to give it a go.

But seriously, could you actually tell the difference in today's games between single and dual 7900GTX for instance?
(not that i own this card)

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Originally Posted by Chaos-Storm

Not yet. I hear its good. I'll have to give it a go.

But seriously, could you actually tell the difference in today's games between single and dual 7900GTX for instance?
(no that i own this card)

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I've been playing Oblivion on our work demo systems, 955XE and Crossfire X1900 with a Dell 3007WFP.
With Crossfire off 1920x1200 is ok if not great, 2560x1600 is a slideshow. Crossfire on and 2560x1600 is smooth as silk.

At home I just have a single 7800GTX and it performs admirably at 1680x1050 on my 2005FPW, upgrading to a 2405FPW soon however so will have to see how that copes.

In the end someone will always produce something to utilise every last processor cycle, pixel shader and memory access you can muster, and there are people to whom that matters, me for one :)

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Originally Posted by Chaos-Storm

My point is that for now, software has a lot of catching up to do. I just don't see the need for new hardware for gaming until there are actually games out that require it, but I guess it's good that some of you do, because otherwise no one will ever develop a better software if no one will be able to run it.

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Todays game physics are VERY demanding, but they still suck. It's not all about pure graphics anymore. The Ageia PhysX PPU makes software developers able to produce even more demanding game physics. Even a oc'ed Conroe wouldn't be near of what the Ageia PPU can do. Hardware has got to come before software, in my opinion. Cooperation between the software and hardware developers is in any case important.

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