Ummm....no! Why drop half the cache and a 2.6GHz clock for something that *might* hit 2.7GHz, not that it will be much faster (if at all!). Unless you need the dinero, don't do it.Quote:
should I sell it and pickup a x2 3800+?
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Ummm....no! Why drop half the cache and a 2.6GHz clock for something that *might* hit 2.7GHz, not that it will be much faster (if at all!). Unless you need the dinero, don't do it.Quote:
should I sell it and pickup a x2 3800+?
well, I could use the money, but I don't know if giving up a sure 2.6GHz for a gamble is worth $100Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
I think I'd be more bummed at losing a good chip than I would be excited at getting another 100MHz I won't even notice
on the other hand, I probably wouldn't notice losing 200MHz as much as I'd notice $100 in my pocket
Here is my 3800 X2 I bought from Fry's.
DFI Ultra D NF4
GSkill LE 4400
3800 X2
Vapo LS
Fortron 550W
ATI 800XL
Audigy 2 ZS
http://sanwork.com/huy/PI.JPG
Maybe you want to trade with my 3800 + cash? :P Still got few days till it hits fry's... both of them run 2.65ghz prime95 stable easy :P (still trying to pick which one)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender17
nope, I've decided to keep itQuote:
Originally Posted by jinu117
2.6GHz is plenty and anything more would just be to increase my epenis, which really isn't important right now
Plus I don't want to go to all the trouble of taking this out, putting a new one in, benching/testing it, etc
Wow only 255'C that's really cold :DQuote:
Originally Posted by buckshot
Ok well I am sure it isn't that temp, but 1.67v?? Wow! and that's from ITE which is usually off by .05-.08, I thought pushing 1.586v was a lot but wow
epenis :banana: my wife just read that sitting at her desk beside me and I asked her if it turned her on, she said it was time for :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender17
ok this sucks, my x2 definitely got problems. first, let me give you my specs:
dfi lanparty nf4 sli-dr
1G g.skill pc3200
550W psu antec true power with 24pin connector
6600gt evga sli.
this setup worked fine before with a 3200 venice.
now to my further headaches with this x2. i can't, no matter what, boot into windows with default speed :(. i'm using bios 623-1 and everything is set to default. also clear cmos overnight and boot up with optimized default settings. here's the strange thing, i set htt to 240 and 11 multi and was able to boot into windows fine and ran 2 instances of spi. all memory timings are on default or auto. i also got major problems with gaming :(. i was playing mvp baseball 2k5 and towards the end of the game, 8th inning, frame rates just go crazy. the animation was on supersonic speed and unplayable. i also tried colin mcrae 2k5 and the animation is also on supersonic speed so i can't drive at all. i need to rma this chip and get a replacement. i should have ordered a 3800 x2 instead.
Your gaming problems stem from the utilization of both CPUs, you need to set affinity to CPU 0 or 1 for whatever process or processes the game is running on. It is apparent with many games EQ2 will actually crash with errors, games think of hyperthreading and the dual core isn't the same with 2xcache areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by dng29
Alternatively you can do what I do since some games have multiple processes, set explorer.exe process to one core only and it should resolve gaming issues, works for me in LOTR, BF2, EQ2 all of which had problems in one form or another with the X2.
thanks for the info, i'll try that.Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
ok, changing affinity in explorer.exe works, thanks. if i set it to cpu0, can i still use the other core cpu1 to do something else while gaming? if i can't use the other core for something, it would be useless then right :). thanks again.
Puzzled why you would have to do this? XP Pro just can't handle dual cores because they share a memory controller? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by dng29
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Originally Posted by pentium777
It helps that I'm using a Vapo LS to cool that puppy down. 1.67 is the only voltage that 3GHz dual prime was stable at. I will let burn in at spot for awhile and will try to lower the voltage later. :D
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Originally Posted by JamesAvery22
i agree. by setting to 1 core, does that mean disabling dual core?
I've been having similar behavior, but only in the GTA series of games..All the other twitchy games I could find seem to behave normally. I haven't tried the affinity thing yet, actually I put my venice back in to test and see if it is maybe a motherboard issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by dng29
Does Win2K support setting the affinity of explorer.exe or is that an XP thing? I am not particularly eager to reinstall windows right now, but maybe that's the answer...
Other core will work, some apps will still have both selected you just have to verify the process and see it varies. Also instead of selecting explorer.exe to one core you can leave both selected for it and just dedicate one core to the app/game instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by dng29
You problems will be solved by setting the affinity, I am fairly sure W2K uses this too but I wouldn't use W2K anymore it is 5 yrs old and a lot of new games aren't going to keep supporting it.Quote:
Originally Posted by angra
It will not disable it, all processes at startup will be both cores enabled as well as a lot of other apps, but it just depends on the app really, seems most games work fine like this, which do you do more game or run multithreaded apps, if your answer is gaming then you might want to set the explorer.exe to single core instead of selecting each process everytime.Quote:
Originally Posted by dng29
I read extensively on the subject when I could not play EQ2 with my new X2 it has to do with Hyperthreading support and 2xCache on each core, many many strange things happen, also in BF2 the results were extremely strange sluggish FPS and other BAD anomalies like disconnections and boots to desktop. Dedicated the two processes in BF2 to one core and no more problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesAvery22
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Originally Posted by pentium777
yeah yeah yeah :). All of my rigs but my everyday machine are on XP now. I just hate to upgrade unless I have to, it is such a PITA.
Thanks for the info on the affinity I will definitely give it a try tonight, unless I feel too lazy to redo the waterblock seating. the slightly unusual DFI lanparty mounting hardware makes it an annoying chore :)
Oh to answer your question, it is a lack of support of the game code really to detect this new hardware, certainly NOT a problem with XP Pro at all. :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesAvery22
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Originally Posted by pentium777
i set affinity to 1 core, played a game and everything is normal. rebooted and launched the same game and it started acting up. quit game and check explorer.exe. it was set to 2 cores again, weird. do i have to set affinity every time i want to play a game? how do i dedicate 1 core to app/game instead of changing explorer.exe :). thanks.
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Originally Posted by pentium777
Ok... But the problem is when you manually assign a specific excutable to a specific logical or physical CPU you are stripping the OS's load balancing ability. Well not stripping it but definitely hindering its performance.
I'm no game programmer, but I don't think a game should have to detect or allocate resources to itself, thats what the OS is for.
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Originally Posted by pentium777
Do you, by any chance, happen to have any links to references that talk about this? I am mostly curious about exactly what sort of programming fault or lack of support would lead to this behavior. I do a fair amount of development in domains that have a lot in common with games, so I'd like to read more about this problem, but I havent figured out a good search pattern to find anything on it.
Bet it is racing condition related :)Quote:
Originally Posted by angra