hahaha, I agree, oh well, it's gonna be another "abit otes" gimmick marketing crap, bling is good, but not without the performance to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
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hahaha, I agree, oh well, it's gonna be another "abit otes" gimmick marketing crap, bling is good, but not without the performance to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
Sapphires original reference (as well as the newest review boards) looks very different compared to your ATI reference Bigtoe. Apparently they lost your notes ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
I noticed the caps Sapphire are using for VDIMM power area have changed comparing their initial reference to these latest review boards. They are now using Nichicons there. If they felt a need to make that change then perhaps they will do the same for the CPU power management.
Personally the numbers Anandtech gave for 3D Mark '01 on the Sapphire (even though we all know the quirks of that bench), is what got my attention.
I think everyone is blowing this caps issue way out of porportion, it's one bad review (preview?). Is the final board revision even done yet?
I haven't looked but I'd be willing to bet that Anand's board was an ATI reference board whereas the X-bit labs and tech report ones were Sapphire brain farts. :rolleyes:
Edit: Gambit_2K, go back a couple of pages ;) And if you go to Sappires website, yes it appears it's all over but the crying (literally).
They had originally posted variations of this board Pure Crossfire / II, Pure element /II Pure Performance /II which are no longer posted, but the 'Pure 'Inovation' aka 'Grouper' seems ready to sh**...er ship.
It's not about blown caps, it's about not using good caps and cutting corners. At least for me. Grouper will not be the best board this time around I bet. There will be plenty to choose from, I suspect dfi's will be tops again unless that mystery player bigtoe is hinting at comes into the light,.. I see a dfi in my future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gambit_2K
The Anandtech board is an ATI reference board, its identicle to mine here. After putting weeks of work into helping design the board, then promoting it i can tell you im a little down hearted. Its been a year since i first spoke to ATI and development started on the first overclockable bullhead boards to where we are at now, and to think it all may die due to a poor component choice just guts me.
Im going to point sapphire at this thead and hope they take notice, the issue is they won't even talk with me so i fully expect them to ignore any plea i make for them to put this right.
i hope they eat their development costs, every single penny of it. HAR HAR HAR
You have my respect , bigtoe :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Poor Sapphire , wth they are doing with the board atm ? :confused: :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Maybe Sapphire can join forces with intels marketing droids who do a really good job of selling 2nd rate products at 1st rate prices :fact: , problem solved :rolleyes:
agreed. i think sapphire is missing the point that, if it overclocks well, then it will sell well too.Quote:
Originally Posted by nn_step
Same here.Quote:
Originally Posted by xs64
I think they have let us all down.
Tony, I think its really out of order that Sapphire will not even speak to you...my money is going elsewhere.
well i mailed em, they actaully responded also. Looks like they are looking into it.
we just have to wait and see
Ok, thanks man.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
I just can't imagine there won't be at least one manufacturer making a board sticking strictly to ATI's reference design.
I hope Sir....... you mentioned that the world's enthusiasts are extremely perturbed and disapointed and the mobo will be more of a failure if they choose to ignore the situation and continue.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
I did...trust meQuote:
Originally Posted by Afterburner
nothing like riding the emotional roller coaster of new / unreleased products.... :slap:
ya i want it!!!....no i dont!!! ...ya i do.....maybe.....yes...no...yes :woot:
all i know is that i (myself) wont get another DFI this time and i wont get Sapphire if they dont resolve/change this cap situation...and since im *sure* ill end up wanting x-fire, ill be holding out till that comes out. (gives a little moe time for this "cap-gate" scandal to resolve itself too)
Thank you bigtoe........ :woot:
:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
Sapphire would be fools to ignore everything you gathered. I mean i guess you gathered the communities desires for ati but for them to change the design at that point. that data you gathered was worth $$ they pay for focus groups for them to ignore it is throughing away free market research teapo's were supposed to be fixxed but it is hard to have confidence in caps i've had a bad experience when they blow in a review as well.
Are you sure about the board Anand used they have both pictured? iv'e seen the nichicon and my enemy the teapo's on at least one other review, if those turn out to not be what on the retail great then i only have my dolby digital gripe and Sapphire would likely get my money unless someone releases the board with propper realtec chip ( ido love the look of this board, but won't buy a board knowing id have the same cap issue i'm upgrading from.)
do you know of anyboards planned that might include the ALC880D instead of the ALC880? i would not be surprized if there are none, which to me would be a total waste of the azalia audio chip.
I don't what a :banana::banana::banana::banana:load of features, I want a barebone board that is the best overclocker out there, hell they can keep the on board audio... and shove it up their asses, I don't care, just fix the :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing caps...
bigtoe, who's the other mystery board maker picking up ATI's reference design? Its been a week. :)
Yeah, BigToe, you did everything Sapphire and ATI could have hoped for with the grassroots effort, and they are not holding up their end of the bargain. Don't feel bad.
Joe Camel - cap-gate :lol:
I say if the Large Appendage fails to get a rise from said manufacturer, I will cut and repost my original post they nuked the other day, if they delete that and or ban me, the next man /woman in line can take up the cause and repost the same thing with his / her forum account. It might take a few hundred of us, but could you imagine them getting 500 posts with all the exact same contenet in each one? They would have to respond to that.
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