Sapphire Shows Radeon Xpress 200 Enthusiast Board @ CeBit

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05-26-2005, 12:29 PM
ettis

I think they used the word "pure" once or twice too often heh :zombie:
05-26-2005, 01:15 PM
AMD-me

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

Only becuase of the dual vpu support part. We want this board why? dual maybe...

Because ATI > Nvidia :D
05-30-2005, 01:18 AM
LostInTennessee

FYI-TuL AX480A-GF Socket 939 RADEON XPRESS 200P ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813190003
05-30-2005, 04:39 AM
bennovb

FIY - message above is about the "old" or regular board, NOT the enthusiast board this thread is about

Have a look here at the new ATI based boards which will be on display at Computex

- VR-Zone article
- Sapphire Computex Invite with product info
- DFI has an Lanparty UT RD480 board on display here

where the RD400 is intended for Dual Graphics MB and the RX480 is for the OC/Enthusiast in shiny white color

http://vr-zone.com/newspics/May05/26...novationMB.jpg
05-30-2005, 05:01 AM
cadaveca

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostInTennessee

FYI-TuL AX480A-GF Socket 939 RADEON XPRESS 200P ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813190003

From newegg:

Quote:

South Bridge ATI SB400

From first post:

Quote:

-Azalia audio support via SB450 using Realtek codec

not the right board.
05-30-2005, 11:39 AM
Afterburner

OMG....... :slobber: Count me in, with crossfiring of coz......... :D
05-30-2005, 07:01 PM
AMD-me

Crossfire = :cool:

Now i hope it works better than SLi :D
05-31-2005, 03:47 AM
IRQ Conflict

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Originally Posted by Grayskull

Guys, there's no comparison between the qualification that happens on a big OEM's motherboard as opposed to a retail channel motherboard. The big OEM boards are tested much more thoroughly.

Also, there is a difference between "buggy" and performance. There are many situations where others have flaunted performance numbers but have many skeletons in the closet when it comes to compatibility and robustness. I can't tell you how many SATA drives I've wiped out on another vendor's platform wheras to date I haven't wiped out any on SB400.

*Cough*
05-31-2005, 04:15 AM
perkam

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where the RD400 is intended for Dual Graphics MB and the RX480 is for the OC/Enthusiast in shiny white color

EDIT: Meow.

Perkam
05-31-2005, 08:16 AM
mike

Does anyone know if the title of this thread can be changed by now???
To something along the lines of:
Sapphire Ships Radeon Xpress 200 Enthusiast Board @ Computex?
05-31-2005, 01:59 PM
IRQ Conflict

Wait till next year and we'll be able to slap a 'computex 2006' sticker on it. :fact:
05-31-2005, 02:50 PM
cadaveca

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Uh...wasnt it like a couple of pages ago I corrected someone about this.
Perkam

uh, no, we were both wrong. you tried to say i made up that RD meant radeon dual and RS radeon single. Greyskull said i was right, but wrong about RS meaning radeon single, as RS means radeon shared. RX stands for radeon xpress.

Boy, you're what, 18, maybe? Must be to let that make your head so big. :fact:

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Originally Posted by Grayskull

Enough of the speculation. The RS and RX series of chipsets support single GPU. If there was to be a chipset that supports dual GPU it would be labelled RD. The "D" in "RD" would stand for dual. The "S" in "RS" stands for shared as in shared memory architecture.

Some other points to straighten out, IDE will be included on all boards. As for an RD580, there is no such piece of silicon. It is named properly as a next generation part, but doesn't exist.

Now please, let's stay on topic here.

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Originally Posted by perkam

I've been caught off guard by ATI's MVP stuff twice now (stinged once too) so please do excuse my attitude in that manner. It was a harmless statement really. If you had proof of where it said that S meant single and D meant dual...in words...I would have put this right next to my name in my own post and would have put whenever addressing you for a month lol.

Anyhoo, yes these are labels and it may not be entirely ATI's fault for the confusion. The partners who make the boards use their own names for the chipsets at times, but based on the boards out RIGHT now in retail...and I've been following the retail boards quite closely, I've seen a pretty consistent naming scheme, which I posted in my first response to you .

Perkam

and you said this:

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Originally Posted by perkam

RX480: The first AMD Chipset to be released. Standard Board with SATA, Raid, etc. (Radeon Xpress 200P)
RS480: Variant of RX480 with Directx 9.0-capable Onboard Video (Radeon Xpress 200G)
RS400: ATi's Intel Chipset with DDR/DDR2 memory Controller and two PCI-E slots (may not be mvp capable even with two 16/4 config)
RU/RC400: Value Intel mobo chipsets.
RD400: (As seen on Hexus) MVP Capable Intel Mainboard chipset.
RX482: MVP Capable chipset for AMD based on RX480.
RS482: Based on RX482, MVP Capable, with onboard video.

which was not entirely right either.

the first chipset released was the rs480, not the RX, and the chipset in this white board is the RS480,not the rx, as you can see by this bios shot posted earlier by bigtoe.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=31691

pls don't jump down peoples throats if they make a mistake. it's impossible for anyone to know EVERYTHING. :fact:

:toast:
05-31-2005, 09:13 PM
__TRONIK__

from what I am reading about the crossfire cards - you can only run an x800 master with an x800, and only an 850master with x850? that true? if so - suck! I have a good XL (check sig heh heh) but when I saw that x850 master cards would be well above $500, and x800xl masters $300, I grabbed an x850xt since I found one really cheap, planning to go with x850+x800xl in crossfire. So now it is looking like I would need to get the $500 master card - or sell the x850 soon as it gets to my door, keep the XL I have, and get an XL master. sheesh, I just wanna plan!
06-05-2005, 08:58 AM
Erasmus354

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Originally Posted by __TRONIK__

from what I am reading about the crossfire cards - you can only run an x800 master with an x800, and only an 850master with x850? that true? if so - suck! I have a good XL (check sig heh heh) but when I saw that x850 master cards would be well above $500, and x800xl masters $300, I grabbed an x850xt since I found one really cheap, planning to go with x850+x800xl in crossfire. So now it is looking like I would need to get the $500 master card - or sell the x850 soon as it gets to my door, keep the XL I have, and get an XL master. sheesh, I just wanna plan!

Now why would you go buy an x850xt non master card if you already knew that you would need a special mastercard in order to run crossfire? Seems a little ignorant to me.

Sell the XT, wait for XL mastercard.
06-05-2005, 03:24 PM
__TRONIK__

because when the master cards were first announced, no one said anything about them only working with specific cards. IE no one said you needed and x800 master to use an x800 slave, and so forth. that announcement came later. I didnt want to go with 2xXL and didnt want to pay $500+ for an x850 master, so getting the Xl master and a slave x850 made the most sense - until it came out you could not use them ogether, days after I got the 850.
and I bought my x850 when I did because I expected, and still expect, that crossfire compatible slave cards will spike in price, just like SLI capable cards did when SLI was imminent. and the x850 was $350, which was the lowest I have seen yet and the lowest I expect it will be for a long time.

and don't go calling me ignorant. I've probably forgotten more about overclocking than you'll ever know about it. .
06-05-2005, 07:10 PM
situman

soooo since i have a x800xl, i can only buy a x800xl master card? I thought one of the advantages of AMR was that we can use any combination of ATI master and slave cards.
06-05-2005, 07:48 PM
__TRONIK__

that's the word, though crossfire news has often been premature and contradictory. either that, or you are ignorant. one of the two.
06-05-2005, 10:50 PM
Afterburner

I hope Sapphire designs their Crossfire offering with the kind of generosity DFI and ASUS has. Primarily, plenty for space between the Crossfire slots and 3 x PCI slots :p:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Reheat/DFI.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Reheat/Asus.jpg
06-05-2005, 10:58 PM
__TRONIK__

I agree, I hope they do, and I hope it is a killer board, but with DFI in for ati chipsets now, how likley is it sapphire, a n00b in making mobos, delivers a board that outclocks DFI's? I say not very, and expect the DFI to be my next motherboard
06-05-2005, 11:03 PM
perkam

From all of what I've heard, we might have to wait at least a month for these :( ...and in that time, more will go Ultra-D when they lose patience. Which I cant blame them for, but its a shame.

I just hope some of non-crossfire versions of these boards are priced around the ultra-d price structure...which was brilliant :)

Perkam
06-05-2005, 11:44 PM
Afterburner

I dont think they are entirely noobs. I judge them based on their outstanding graphics cards. Sapphire has always been my choice. Since they are one of ATI's biggest ally, I am sure they worked very closely together to come out with a kick ass mobo that would benfit all 3 parties - ATI, Sapphire, Consumers. This way, ATI and Sapphire will have a flying and highly recognised start........ :D
06-06-2005, 04:52 AM
LowRun

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Originally Posted by perkam

From all of what I've heard, we might have to wait at least a month for these :( ...and in that time, more will go Ultra-D when they lose patience. Which I cant blame them for, but its a shame.

I just hope some of non-crossfire versions of these boards are priced around the ultra-d price structure...which was brilliant :)

Perkam

I'll be more patient and will wait the 2 months it will probably take the boards to hit the shelves. DFI burned me once in the NF2 days with their craptastic boards and so bad Euro support. Now seeing their NF4 boards are still plagued by the same old probs aka cold boot and sudden death, plus they now kill ram :rolleyes:
No DFI for me :nono:
06-06-2005, 05:03 AM
dippyskoodlez

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowRun

I'll be more patient and will wait the 2 months it will probably take the boards to hit the shelves. DFI burned me once in the NF2 days with their craptastic boards and so bad Euro support. Now seeing their NF4 boards are still plagued by the same old probs aka cold boot and sudden death, plus they now kill ram :rolleyes:
No DFI for me :nono:

:stick:
They;ve sold 4x as many NF4's as NF2's, and most boards, are without a single issue...

I too was burnt with the NFII's... 4 infinitys and a LP A... :stick: I absolutely love, and wouldnt hesitate to get another NF4, though. 3 mobos without a single issue so far. :D
06-10-2005, 11:01 AM
dragonle87

I am very interested in this Sapphire board. Does anyone know whether this board is matx size? I have an Antec Aria collecting dust that I want to install this mobo in. But from glancing at the mobo pics it's not matx size. This mobo has 5 pci expansion slots as opposed to the standard 4 expansion slots of a matx mobo. Any clarification is greatly appreciated. I do hope they make a matx mobo version though.

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