Bulldozers first screens

I just want to point out that on the same page of this thread there are polar opposite screen shots shown about it's performance... while this single screen shot is exciting I hate to see people getting hyped up about it....

this happens almost every time a new product comes out. I remember the Cayman launch and everyone speculated and hyped it up a bunch and guess what... It's no faster than a GTX 570 card... it was right where you would logically expect it to be...

it is rare that we see a launch that goes against the grain of current performance upgrade trending. the last time it really happened was with the launch of Conroe back in the day... That was a MASSIVE shift... but most of the things before than and since then have been pretty boring overall.

I don't want to be a buzzkill or anything but one of my fondest product speculation memories was the screen shot that showed up showing an R600 GPU (2900xt) scoring 30k in 3DMark06.... that was pretty funny considering the chip was slower than a 8800GTS 640MB and overall total trash...

I'm not saying I expect the same-thing to happen with BD as that would be bad news for everybody but It would be nice if FOR ONCE people did not get all reved up over a product that is over a month away from being released.... and has yet to have an half legitimate information on performance released.

Well, cpuz creator can confirm if such a version exists.And if thats true some guys at gigabyte are at big trouble its all there ...

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Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

I just want to point out that on the same page of this thread there are polar opposite screen shots shown about it's performance... while this single screen shot is exciting I hate to see people getting hyped up about it....

this happens almost every time a new product comes out. I remember the Cayman launch and everyone speculated and hyped it up a bunch and guess what... It's no faster than a GTX 570 card... it was right where you would logically expect it to be...

it is rare that we see a launch that goes against the grain of current performance upgrade trending. the last time it really happened was with the launch of Conroe back in the day... That was a MASSIVE shift... but most of the things before than and since then have been pretty boring overall.

I don't want to be a buzzkill or anything but one of my fondest product speculation memories was the screen shot that showed up showing an R600 GPU (2900xt) scoring 30k in 3DMark06.... that was pretty funny considering the chip was slower than a 8800GTS 640MB and overall total trash...

I'm not saying I expect the same-thing to happen with BD as that would be bad news for everybody but It would be nice if FOR ONCE people did not get all reved up over a product that is over a month away from being released.... and has yet to have an half legitimate information on performance released.

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i am tired with this...

in this thread, the "performance" is either too good to be true or too bad to be true. many people are already questioning the "performance".

i don't think we hype products when it's available.

how did they select msn + cpuz as active windows at the same time?

shadowing in the taskbar is wrong, aero peek window is odd with the popup right above it, recycle bin is covered in an odd way (hidden taskbars hide a larger proportion)

i think that it's a fake

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Originally Posted by XRL8

Well, cpuz creator can confirm if such a version exists.And if thats true some guys at gigabyte are at big trouble its all there ...

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CPU-Z creator is Franck Delattre
Facebook page here. :D

Interesting thing is if those results are actually done one 2.8Ghz... Wprime,especially the long test(1024M) is very FP heavy,so I doubt Turbo would kick in with all 8 128bit(or 4 x 256bit) FPUs running in parallel :). In most multithreaded FP workloads I don't think there is much TDP headroom,at least looking at what AMD presented in this slide:
http://regmedia.co.uk/2011/02/24/amd...ower_usage.jpg
If the scores are @ 2.8Ghz for wprime(super pi def. was at 3.8Ghz tho),then one Bulldozer's 128bit FMAC is around 30% faster, per clock, than Thuban's core. Fits nicely with rumored 10-11pts for 8C 3.5Ghz model in Cinebench 11.5,doesn't it ?

Of course this all means jack sh*t if the screenshot is fake... Which it probably is.

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Originally Posted by generics_user

how did they select msn + cpuz as active windows at the same time?

shadowing in the taskbar is wrong, aero peek window is odd with the popup right above it, recycle bin is covered in an odd way (hidden taskbars hide a larger proportion)

i think that it's a fake

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Good catch. The biggest thing there I think is the two windows selected simultaneously.

It's a fake.

Gahh I hate fakes.

The legend grows as release date gets closer.

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Originally Posted by generics_user

how did they select msn + cpuz as active windows at the same time?

shadowing in the taskbar is wrong, aero peek window is odd with the popup right above it, recycle bin is covered in an odd way (hidden taskbars hide a larger proportion)

i think that it's a fake

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Forget about recycle bin being covered in an odd way, there are TWO recycle bins. That's of course quite easy to do (custom icons), though I don't currently have a machine with Windows 7 near me to test out Live messenger + CPU-Z to see whether you can have two windows active at once.

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Originally Posted by blindbox

Forget about recycle bin being covered in an odd way, there are TWO recycle bins.

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While that may be true, and is definitely yet another suspicious thing on that pic, don't make that a hard and fast rule. You won't believe how many PCs I've worked on where there is a recycle bin in one corner of the screen, then a shortcut the user created somewhere else on the screen for no particular reason. Same with My Computer, Documents shortcuts, etc :wth:

look at the gap between she cpu name, the speed and the "Ghz" in the system & settings and compare to your own.

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Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

while this single screen shot is exciting I hate to see people getting hyped up about it....

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But there is nothing to get excited about, the wprime results deliver exactly what has been promised over a year ago 50% more perf with 33% more cores, nothing more.

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Originally Posted by generics_user

how did they select msn + cpuz as active windows at the same time?

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Like this perhaps?

Ok guys,if the slide is real ,then this Cbrixx guy is kinda in trouble. Guess what,he really exists and works for GB! LoL i googled and found him. He is even in one Youtube interview :p: :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFGndppXBDk
Definitely the guy from the messenger pic from the leak! He works for GB alright.
I won't go into obvious fishy details of the rumored image.

Edit:
LOL Alain Sam Lai is real also,and guess what? He works for GB too :D

http://tw.linkedin.com/in/alainsamlai

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Alain Sam-Lai's Experience
Product Validation Engineer
GIGA-BYTE TECHNOLOGY CO.,LTD

Public Company; Computer Hardware industry

June 2000 – Present (11 years)

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Damn,I hope someone hacked their network since this is easy info to find :).

Alain Sam-Lai exists too: http://tw.linkedin.com/in/alainsamlai - Product Validation Engineer GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY CO.,LTD

Trouble indeed. :)

Well, if you found profiles of these people with no troubles, then someone who wants to fake some screenshots could find it also.
Any way, fake or not, I don't envy these guys.

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Originally Posted by kl0012

Well, if you found profiles of these people with no troubles, then someone who wants to fake some screenshots could find it also.
Any way, fake or not, I don't envy these guys.

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If someone went through such a great lengths to actually find 2 Gigabyte employes,fake everything in the shot ,including MSN with chat history,internal CPU-z logfile(beta?,some obvious errors in spelling there ,probably by GB staff from Taiwan) ,Zambezi Windows Perf. Rating results, then kudos to the faker he did a great job! Although he wasted time finding two GB employees and perfectly faking MSN,he failed at such an easy tasks as replicating proper wording in the CPU-z.
But we have no idea how Zambezi is recognized in that beta CPU-z,do we ? :)

If there was any hint on the street that AMD has an INTC killer, then the stock price would be alot higher right now. People lie but stock prices don't. ;)

RussC

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Originally Posted by ichime

So @ Wprime, it's faster than the 2600K @ 4.8ghz and a bit slower than the 990X at stock speeds, according to that screenshot. Not too shabby!

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Originally Posted by RussC

If there was any hint on the street that AMD has an INTC killer, then the stock price would be alot higher right now. People lie but stock prices don't. ;)

RussC

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you people just don't get it.
AMD = tighter than a virgin's.../tighter lipped than the military

You guys are forgetting one thing: IPC Decreases with Bulldozer so this can't be true :P

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Originally Posted by dimitriman

you guys are forgetting one thing: Ipc decreases with bulldozer so this can't be true :p

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+1 :up:

well that was fun while it lasted. :rolleyes:
regardless. I just want to do some cold runs again. I dont really care how it does compared to sandy bridge I just want to do some cold again. I'm ready when bulldozer is.
I wish a mod would take this thread down. its so full of crap and just makes everyone look bad. just take it all down and start it when there is actually something to talk about.

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Originally Posted by Dimitriman

You guys are forgetting one thing: IPC Decreases with Bulldozer so this can't be true :P

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The more a certain someone posts... Bwahaha :ROTF:

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Originally Posted by informal

If someone went through such a great lengths to actually find 2 Gigabyte employes,fake everything in the shot ,including MSN with chat history,internal CPU-z logfile(beta?,some obvious errors in spelling there ,probably by GB staff from Taiwan) ,Zambezi Windows Perf. Rating results, then kudos to the faker he did a great job! Although he wasted time finding two GB employees and perfectly faking MSN,he failed at such an easy tasks as replicating proper wording in the CPU-z.
But we have no idea how Zambezi is recognized in that beta CPU-z,do we ? :)

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The fake actually isn't perfect. Just look at WEI - the fonts in "Processor" and "RAM" lines are clearly different (just look at "8" for example).

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Originally Posted by trans am

well that was fun while it lasted. :rolleyes:
regardless. I just want to do some cold runs again. I dont really care how it does compared to sandy bridge I just want to do some cold again. I'm ready when bulldozer is.
I wish a mod would take this thread down. its so full of crap and just makes everyone look bad. just take it all down and start it when there is actually something to talk about.

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That's why I refrain from posting on this thread... little posts if any at all

move it to the wampateers gandalfoons section. its a complete joke. Just get it out of here. its not even news anymore its the national enquirer of CNN and fox news of bulldozer threads. i'm embarrassed to even be reading this horse crap. delete the thread...please.
Its embarrassing for XS and I cant believe its gone this far.