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Ok....point taken....post removed...sorry guys.
EDIT: What I really want to know is, why as soon as OCZ releases a new product.....a thread starts up with "Does it beat this", "is it quiet", "What fan does it have", "Oh I hate that fan", "can it do back flips", "will it make my PC OC more", "does it make my coffee for me".
I don't see threads about what fan the Zippy uses or whether the PCP&C can make your coffee....why is that?
Do you all have that low an opinion of OCZ?
I am actually willing to send my powermeter around to have people take real measurements. I should offer that to that guy on BE.
I want this PSU! Zipzoom, where's my stuff?!? And no 7900GTX either (different reseller). Did every hardware shop go mad lately?
You interpreted it 100% backwards. Let me explain why.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
This is a new product, and it apears to be competative with another product in the same class.
However it has some improvements over the product that is already out.
Now poeple like me for example are starting to think, hey this OCZ PSU looks incredibly awsome. I want to buy it. But wait I need to make sure even though it is better in some aspects that it is at least the same in other aspects important to me.
The reason for a very brutal beatdown comparison for the OCZ PSU is not because people think low of OCZ or that people dont like it, its the opposite. People love it, and they want to buy it.
If people thought low of OCZ and OCZ products they would never even bother bringing these questions up. For instance you dont see alot of these beatdowns on other PSU's, you know why? Because people dont think they are worth their time to disscuss as it would be a waste of space on the forum and a waste of their time. That shows that they dont think highly of that product.
When you see a very furious beatdown like this it is because people are trying really hard to find out what this product is capable of and how it compares, simply because they are interested in it, they do like it, and they think so highly of it as to compare it to the BEST out there.
You guys make great products, as so you have to expect to be compared to the best of the best, because you are in that class. Should be proud.
:toast:
Now that is some insight I did not see coming...Thanks for that :toast:
Yeah, whatever that killer machine on bleedingedge pulls exactly, it will be about record power draw for single-CPU boxes.
That guy now powers the whole thing with a $160 PSU. That is an OCZ achievement in itself.
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Originally Posted by epion2985
Wow....just wow....
Ok I'll just make a list:
1. I said it would do as well or better than its COMPETITION....I just did some searching for the zippy and it is a 285 dollar power supply.... This in my opinion is NOT competition for the OCZ, Neither is the PCP&C This is aimed at people that want a very good perform PSU and are willing to spend money for performance but are still bound by some type of budget. Competiton for this PSU are ones like the 620W liberty or other ones in the Price range!
2. COST??!! WOW I get SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO tired of hearing this crap.... Ok so because I am 19 years old and do not have the finacial ability to buy a $500 PCP&C I am less XTREME??!! I have heard peopl say things like this and it REALLY drives me up a wall....Not everyone is in the same financial situation... I cannot go out and buy $1000 FX-60 or $500 PSUs... I'm glad to hear that you can afford these things but I cannot...I am AMAZED at the fact that you are saying Costs don't matter!!! if they don't then why don't you go spend $500 dollars on the 1kw PCP&C and get it over with?? why would you even be looking at a PSU that is $160?? I could continue but I think you get the point..
3. Size? Again for YOUR circumstance this might not be a factor, but DOES NOT mean it isn't for other people!!! What if someone wants a PSU that fits in a SFF case?? I guess that is totally irrelevant right :rolleyes:
4. Noise. Ok a somewhat decent point the fan CAN be changed and casing CAN be modded. But thats ALSO if you are wiling to void the Warranty on the PSU... Again I know what you are thinking this is XTREMESYSTEMS not blahblah we've all haerd it... but again I take calculated risks....I have to...I am not yet finacially well of enough to have NO reguard what-so-ever for hardware.... I DO volt mod my vid card and highly oc my Proc, but I am WILLING to pay the price if something happens....However I NEED the warranties on the other parts because I could NOT aford to pay for everything, again my risk taking must be calculated, I wish I could do what I wanted and buy what I wanted...but fact is...I cannot...
Ok, so we've figured out one thing..... You want PERFORMANCE!!! right... thats it end of story...But think about other people's situations before you go and post stuff like this...sorry for the rant but I couldn't let this go...
BTW I got mine yesterday and its running like a champ so far. I am working on a write up for it with my system just to show what it will do on midrange system...It looks great so far!
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Originally Posted by Fhqwhgads6680
Please dont start drama.
I asked because I need to buy one soon and I am tossing a few options around.
I did not ask which is a better psu for you. I asked because I need one, and I need to see how it stacks up against other choises, with my goals, my dudget and my plans.
I dont see where I have said you should spend $285 or that the zippy is a better choise for you.
ok thats fine im not trying to start drama, You want the best performance and thats your number one criteria. But when you go and say things like "this isn't costeffectivesystems.com"... I guess stuff like that guets under my skin a little... sorry if it came off bad, I just get tired of statments like that... Anyway, I hope you find good PSU, and as an owner I can say its vey good, but I'm not really stressing it yet, I got this so that I can go to crossfire smoothly, but currently am only running 1 X1900.
Best of luck,
Brandon J
Lowest price I found on this is 140 USD. The FSP version of this PSU is 120 USD. So the OCZ doesn't look too bad - they got the best tech support and warranty :) Nice PSU, but my Seasonic S12 rocks
To be honest there's far too much if and what and why, simply put this PSU will operate 99.99% of PC's and with a very comfortable margin, sometimes you cannot have evrything it's just not possible, the only possible downside I can see is maybe it might not be as quiet as some power supplies but by the looks of what it's being compared against ie PC P&C and Zippy it blows them away on that front whilst being very close with the other specs.
As an all rounder it in my opinion it's simply unbeatable and that coupled with the legendry OCZ support and warranty makes a simple choice for me every high endPC I build for customers from now will be fitted with one of these I simply cannot afford to have problems with customers machines because it wipes all my profit margins away.
All the above is my opinion which might not be the same for everyone but I would hope that the majority would think on the same lines.
If you need a superb PSU for a high end system what are you waiting for go buy one today.
I am really suprised people think this psu is loud. maybe mine is th eodd man out, but I can barely hear the fan. I only have two 120mm fans running in my case other than a small fan on my northbridge and naother small one on the pwm. Even under loud I can't notice it. I know when I had it out on the bench I only hooked 3 fans to it, and that is not a load , but it again was silent with my ear right against it.
BTW OCZ's 3 year Powerswap warranty is aces!;)
Uh, what. Last time I looked the 700W Epsilon was $170 cheapest.Quote:
Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
Link?
I think the days of these monster size psu's are coming to an end. conroe requires a hell of a lot less power than presler did.. Amd will begin their low wattage cpu's early next year.
Maybe a retarde question but can someone tell me the length of the cables in cm on that PSU....
I have a Modstream and those cables are too short in my v2000.... I had to mod the v2000 mounting backplate to get the PSU installed correctly and use the cables :slapass:
OT Does anyone know an eta on of the modular version of it....?
Multi-CPU and multi-GPU will take care of that :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Haltech
I would like to know also. I have a Silverstone TJ06 and need quite long ATX and AUX12V cable (still I have extension, but...)Quote:
Originally Posted by NightCrawlerâ„¢
I'll try and get an answer for you by the end of the weekend.
The Main ATX cable, the AUX 12V and the 2 PCI-e connectors are all approx 53.3 cm long (21 inches +/-)Quote:
Originally Posted by NightCrawlerâ„¢
All the Molex, SATA, etc have the first connector at 50.8cm (20 inches) and go on from there for a total length of 109.22cm (43 inches +/-)
Hope that helps.
well there you go! no need for me!
Dont be so sure while CPUs might be backing off GPUs sure as hell wont.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haltech
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Overall this PSU looks really nice. I do like the fact that its fortron built since they tend to use better parts than a number of manufacturers (like my squeaky Antec lol)
Price looks pretty good as well since its only slighly more than the epsilon FSP units and for the additional cost the warrenty would certinaly justify the OCZ unit.
I really wasnt trying to bust you chops on the whole Zippy issue Ryder. They really are *that* good, its a shame no 3rd party mfgr wants to use their units (such as yourself or mushkin). I hear that their (zippy) baseline pricing is really steep and it tends to drive away possible supporters
Those 2 PCI-e connectors are a bit on the short side... One I probably could connect, two won't go as the cable simply isn't long enough... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
Short? These have the longest cables of any PSU I have seen yet.....I would appreciate any info you have on what you find that is longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by NightCrawlerâ„¢
Thanks :)
Great job on this review eva2000. You have oscilloscope by any chance?
The FSP Epsilon 700W's PCI-E2 cable is 55.5 cm long, from edge of PSU-cabi til the edge/neck of the PCI-E2 power plug (±5mm depending on witch way the cable is stretched when messuring).Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
unfortunately nope hehQuote:
Originally Posted by Eldonko